This Sun Shade Sail Install is Going Strong 3 Years Later

This Sun Shade Sail Install is Going Strong 3 Years Later - What I've Learned

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Жыл бұрын

Here we review my original sun shade install designs, which are holding up great, but I've also made some improvements that work even better.
Here's the original video: • Sun Shade Sail Install...
Here is a Sun Shade Sail better than the one I'm using: amzn.to/3HmwhLY
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@docjody8624 9 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! You saved me a ton of $$$ and time, not having to buy 4x4 lumber and tons of concrete, no digging holes. Metal conduit brilliant idea, easy install. God bless you!

@MakeItorBreakItNow 9 ай бұрын

You're welcome docjody, always glad to help. You might also be interested in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCPmpdo2bi9p6s.html putting up LED lights using a similar concept.

@mariarubio1850 5 күн бұрын

metal and lightning??

@shreyashpatel1588 Жыл бұрын

Electrical fish tape will last over 10 years in strong sun all day. I have used it in my yard and still going strong over 16 years. Thanks.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Great idea, thanks for sharing. I used this galvanized wiring on my lights and its also holding up great. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCPmpdo2bi9p6s.html

@pearlperlitavenegas2023 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing I live in DallasTX the sun 🌞 is no joke here

@Mr.Beastforpresident 11 ай бұрын

What brand and size?

@shreyashpatel1588 11 ай бұрын

I don't think brand matters but 1/2 inch is thick enough. I myself have 3/4 inch tape and that can handle lot of weight.

@docjody8624 5 күн бұрын

What exactly are you using Electrical Fish Tape for in this system?

@pdfico 11 ай бұрын

I’m always amazed at videos like this. I mean this guy must have seen other examples of properly installed sail shades. He must have noticed the difference in quality between his debacle and a real craftsman. Yet he’s still talks into the camera like he’s some sort of competent craftsman. Amazing

@MakeItorBreakItNow 11 ай бұрын

Nope

@serenityjewel 10 ай бұрын

❤ I'm so sorry you're not ok. I hope you find lasting happiness and joy soon.

@ritareilly8548 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your experience!!!

@MakeItorBreakItNow 11 ай бұрын

Rita, you're welcome. Still going strong, here's the year 4 video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p66DZqR5m9bdh4E.html

@barryparks8055 10 ай бұрын

Some useful ideas. Many thanks!

@MakeItorBreakItNow 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome Barry, thanks for leaving a comment.

@calc1588 Жыл бұрын

Great tips - helped me out beyond comprehension. TY

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Cal C. Glad it was helpful! You might be interested in this video, its the newest addition to our deck: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLthgcqVv5m0ZqM.html

@sannunaveen3941 Жыл бұрын

True shade sail tutorial!

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Thanks Sannu!

@docjody8624 5 күн бұрын

9-month update: Nope! Recent "microburst" storm (brief 80-mph winds) wrecked my deck's Shade Sail System. Recommended 10-ft. galvanized conduit metal poles bent to nearly 45-degrees, one split open. Storm was sudden-- no time to lower sails, alas. Now rebuilding w/ SQUARE 1-1/2-inch 10-gauge steel 8-ft. Poles. Will design new System at a low enough height to remove Sails QUICKLY for fast storms (w/out wasting time to grab step stool). How to "best" attach square poles to these 4x4 treated lumber Deck Uprights?

@southwest7977 9 ай бұрын

I hooked two corners with the same spring clips. The other two I set up tautlines that connected to the sail. Tied the other ends to my fence and shed. Cotton rope allows it to stretch in high winds but I can use the knot to periodically tighten up. I’m sure that I will have to replace the rope every couple years.

@MakeItorBreakItNow 9 ай бұрын

Wow, some interesting suggestions. Thanks for sharing.

@tialorenna6603 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Very informative and hilarious 😂 in a dad joke kinda way. Currently trying to set up a tarp and we were struggling, hopefully this'll help

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Tia, Good luck! Yeah, can't help it. I'm a Dad. You might like new video where we build a steel gazebo: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLthgcqVv5m0ZqM.html

@pasztoradam1988 Жыл бұрын

I had people telling me, these might not be that durable, you just convinced me otherwise, thanks !

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Yup, they're holding up grea, this is the 4th season so far...

@randymarshall1267 10 ай бұрын

Awesome job

@MakeItorBreakItNow 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Randy. I'm really pleased with this sail installation. You might also be interested in the LED lighting I added last year. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCPmpdo2bi9p6s.html

@cindybledsoe8878 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Thanks Cindy, you might also like this video on deck lighting: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCPmpdo2bi9p6s.html I'll have a follow on video on how to control these lights.

@agenticmark 9 ай бұрын

Just like in sailing, reducing friction and supporting stress points is precisely the right thing to do. Good on those clips! Now learn how to back braid that bitter end and it will look sharp! Also pick up some general non-slip knots like the bowline.

@MakeItorBreakItNow 9 ай бұрын

Good points, I know the bowline and actually used it later when I modded the installation.

@amyreaves2166 Жыл бұрын

Good job!

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Thanks Amy!

@tinarodriguez9120 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Tina, you're welcome, the sails are still going strong. I have LED lighting video I will be updating this installation you might be interested in: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCPmpdo2bi9p6s.html

@Majikdiva Ай бұрын

You are very creative with the pole ....i like that !!!! Diy...Diy....

@MakeItorBreakItNow 26 күн бұрын

Thank you! 😊I just put the same sails up last weekend, now on year 5. I made a couple changes, stay tuned for the new video coming soon.

@mariabaumgartel766 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the close-up & description of basic parts. You might want to slow down & show the assembled parts longer for us beginners. Thank you, video is very helpful.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Maria, thanks for the feedback. Will be updating my LED lighting and will slow down just like you suggested. Here's that video see what you think. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCPmpdo2bi9p6s.html

@isabellavision Жыл бұрын

@Maria Baumgartel There are times in many videos when I wish the presenter would move slower and also sometimes faster-- I click the cogwheel at the bottom right of the video and change the "playback speed"-- experiment with that if you haven't, it's been a game-changer for me.

@_DixonCider Жыл бұрын

If you replace the natural rope with steel cable or synthetic rope they will last much longer.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Dixon Cider, very true. The sails came with synthetic rope. Steel cable ends can be a different level of DIY for some, But to your point chain would work also...

@Glidedon 9 ай бұрын

Use ropes from sailboat sails . They don’t stretch and are sun resistant.

@djamburere 10 ай бұрын

🎉 thanks

@MakeItorBreakItNow 10 ай бұрын

you're welcome.

@rhetta3504 6 ай бұрын

Brilliant!!..Mastermind!!🧠

@MakeItorBreakItNow 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, this design seems to holding up well, I just took them down after the fourth year. Think I might get a 5th year out of the set...

@debdeb5093 Жыл бұрын

Thx

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Deb Deb, you're welcome. Thanks for the comment.

@marelleq1506 9 ай бұрын

Before I mounted I added leather straps to the hook area in other words I on the 12th tape I put leather straps over it and sewed the attachment directly to the shade sale so they had that reinforcement that has made a huge difference

@marelleq1506 9 ай бұрын

That would be over the twill tape

@MakeItorBreakItNow 9 ай бұрын

wow, great idea, thanks for sharing!

@ssr4656 10 ай бұрын

I'm not an engineer but I don't see the rope being wrapped around the pole adding any strength to the conduit, maybe you can explain the added strength? Great video Sir!

@MakeItorBreakItNow 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your question. Its a compression thing along a distributed load. I'll have to search my books and see if I can get a more technical answer.

@ssr4656 10 ай бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow Very interesting, thanks for the quick answer!

@Fulblade Жыл бұрын

Good video

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Thanks, one of my favorite movies BTW, even if some people don't get it...

@peterGnash Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks! Is this set up winter proof?

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is! Depending on where you live and how much snow you get. We leave ours out from March through late November most years...

@thaixeon76 Жыл бұрын

you'd want to Cap the galvanized post or water Will fill up inside and rust will weaken and eventually snap with tension

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

I thought about it, but the poles are not sealed on the bottom so the water runs straight through.

@dnavanlith77 Жыл бұрын

Cool ideas! Did you use EMT or rigid conduit?

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

EMT conduit, hollow on the inside.

@evapantaleoni1405 19 күн бұрын

Would this system work on a terrace hit by high wind? I can't install a "real" gazebo to the terrace with bolts and such. I can't even put barrels! I thought to tie poles to the rail, but I am told a sail would fly everything out. So, I thought to put a series of smaller "slices" of cloths to provide shade but let the wind go through. Am I completely off track ?!

@MakeItorBreakItNow 14 күн бұрын

I think it would work, this setup has been hit by winds over 70 mph, hail, and tons of rain and are still going strong: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ir17Z6ah1N7Tnok.html

@ocean1233 Жыл бұрын

Please let me know ...what is the size of the eye screw you used? I want to use stainless steel with a large enough eye...long enough to hold. Also...I am placeing 10' EMT Counduit and will drill a few holes. What size eyebolt /washer /nut should I buy? Thank you

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Paula, The eyebolts I used were 5/16in X 4 in. 5/16 inch hardware both washers and nuts. Here's my original video with those details: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9llbJOgu8W0fHk.html

@ocean1233 Жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow THANK YOU .. I am ordering my materials now👍

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

@@ocean1233 good luck, let me know how it turns out for you.

@docjody8624 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant. Those metal Conduits, for some odd reason, look greater than 1-in. in diameter. Can you provide Specs such that I buy the correct type? Thank you!

@MakeItorBreakItNow 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, interesting. I just went out with some calipers and remeasured, 1.1695 inches. I recall on metal conduit the 1" refers to the inner diameter of the pipe.

@MrGameOwnage 8 ай бұрын

Hey mate! I'm thinking about attaching a pole to a 1.7m timber fence post. The pole would add 0.7m above the fence. I'm told by construction store staff that the fence post isn't strong enough for that. But your setup looks like it has even less foundation strength than that and it's clearly working. Do you think my fence would be fine and not experience bend over time?

@MakeItorBreakItNow 8 ай бұрын

If your fence post is tied into a fence similar to my railing you should be fine. I'm an aerospace engineer by profession so I know a bit about structures, particulary lightweight but strong structures. occassionally I'll get comments that my rig won't work and it will fail. Well +4 years later and its going strong and looks as good as it did on day 1. And trust me its been tested by 60-80 mph winds, hail, gusts and still going strong.

@galacticjunkyard1054 11 ай бұрын

Would a post cemented in a wooden half barrel be able to hold up a sun shade? The other sides would be attached to a pergola.

@MakeItorBreakItNow 11 ай бұрын

I would think so. This design works spite the critics who have posted negative comments here. Being an aerospace engineer, and sailer, I design things differently than most. Because the shades are perforated to some extent, they don't carry the wind load as other materials would, hense limited reason to over design as some have with these...

@BrianJonesSr 10 ай бұрын

That is the solution i use, although you will still need at least on guy wire going to the ground to get enough tension on the sail and to avoid having the barrel fall over during winds. Also, i ended up having to switch from standard yard stakes to the anchor types uses with trampolines because i have higher winds in my yard.

@1252PFC 9 ай бұрын

Can you make a video on how you built the camera rig at the 9:20 mark? Thanks.

@MakeItorBreakItNow 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion, stay tuned you should see the video soon.

@AnAvidReader-sj7bt Жыл бұрын

Do you think Tposts would be an acceptable alternative to the pipes? I need to sink them into dirt.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Are talking about something like this: amzn.to/40fazS2 I yes then I'd say sure if you got them long enough. I used these post in a grape arbor and then attached the conduit to this to compliment their strengths...

@AnAvidReader-sj7bt Жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow okay cool - I’d actually use the heartier cousin of that kind. They don’t have the U or the holes. Thank so much! This will save us a lot of money and give a lot of relief on a south-facing porch!

@TheScottiedawg319 11 ай бұрын

What type of poles are you using and how far down do you put them in the ground??

@MakeItorBreakItNow 11 ай бұрын

1 inch steel conduit, none of the poles are in the ground. Thy're mounted on the deck railings. The first video goes more into the construction. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9llbJOgu8W0fHk.html

@MasonSanchez. 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Dad. ❤

@MakeItorBreakItNow 10 ай бұрын

okay...

@MasonSanchez. 10 ай бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow Lol Just saying. I watched almost this whole video, and all I could think after I watched most of it was “Thanks Dad.” Very insightful, just like my Dad would have showed and explained to me. ❤ 😂

@thesilentgeneration Ай бұрын

I have an all metal roof that heats up my house beyond belief. Using paint is just too much for me, I'm 78 years old. But, I need to cover my roof with something to block the sun that will last for years. My roof is about 35X40 feet. I am looking for something economical. The sun here in the Philippines is relentless.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Ай бұрын

These could work. In that level of sun exposure they might only last a year or two though, but probably worth is. Love the Philippines BTW, a wonderful place.

@unionse7en Жыл бұрын

good video. This Mechanical Engineer wants to see the Free Body Diagram on how wrapping a mast can possibly add significant strength or stiffness to the mast. ;-)

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

FBD, now that's not a term I've heard for a while, thanks for the memory, brings me back to my flight test days...

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

You might also like this video where I added multicolor LED lights to this deck a month or so ago: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCPmpdo2bi9p6s.html

@Tsuki7786 Жыл бұрын

Hi, so I'm a don't want to wait for a man to doi kinda woman 😅 and try and do lots... however this bolt into side of house part I can't wrap my head around. Is there a specific spot for side of the house and how does it work for a 2 story home. I have aluminum rod fence perimeter and a 10ft tree about 10' away from house and center of yard. Could you please tell me what I'm looking for as the perfect spot and how difficult is it to get the eye bolt in? Thank you for your help

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

First of all, good for you, like your attitude! I'm tying into the wood under my main roof called the soffit. There should be some structure there to tie into. I wouldn't put an eye bolt into the tree. You could just wrap the line around the trunk at whatever level you desired.

@frankuribe3662 Жыл бұрын

What size poles did you use, what's thickness

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Frank, 1 inch diameter metal conduit. Here is the original video where I built the system: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9llbJOgu8W0fHk.html

@frankcampos1251 Жыл бұрын

Why didn’t you just buy the hanging connector kit for the shade sail? Also, you can the shade sail with reinforced “D” loops at the attachment points and use stainless cabling. This would have simplified your installation and durability.

@MakeItorBreakItNow 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Frank. Good points, maybe I'll do the D loops for the next set of sails. Wanted to try a simplier installation forst that others could more easily follow. I did use steel cabling on my LED strings though...kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCPmpdo2bi9p6s.html

@frankcampos1251 11 ай бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow I think your explanation was very straight forward and I like how you did your patio lights. Will definitely try this. Thanks for the reply.

@desert-walker 2 ай бұрын

Well, the less comments were six and eight months ago or seven whatever guess I’m late to the game but anyway, those would only last about one year here in Tucson the sun would destroy it after year, and it would start ripping and disintegrating, so I finally went with a metal roof and I made a little post and 2 x 4 frame to hold it up kinda like a carportworks great

@MakeItorBreakItNow 2 ай бұрын

Interesting. Agree the Tucson sun is hot for sure.

@jennycarpenter3745 Жыл бұрын

How does that work in the rain. Does the water pool in the center?

@indyguy5570 Жыл бұрын

Jenny, if you slant the sail downward a little as it should be the water will run off the sail and not collect. It should not be flat at all 4 corners so the slope is what allows the draining. Also the tighter the sail is the better it will drain off as well. Hope this helps.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Jenny, agree on all the above. Also through the season you might have to tighten the lines a bit.

@kleineroteHex Жыл бұрын

you can come over and help me get my sail right - your poles are genius - nothing seems to fit our present structure. What sort of poles did you use?

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

one inch electrical conduit pipe from Home Depot, not a sponsor, Lowes has them too, pretty much any store that has electrical DIY project stuff.

@Awyzemanoncesaid 2 ай бұрын

I am in the middle of installing a couple of these and have been reading a lot on how to do it. Your conduit attachment points are not close to what is recommended. You claim this system works but I don’t see your leaning metal pipe staying secure on even a breezy day. If you are installing one of these sails I recommend reading material from other sources and decide for yourself how to proceed. I would not feel safe under these sails on a gusty day, likely get smacked in the face by a spring clip or strangled by a piece of broken rope.

@MakeItorBreakItNow 2 ай бұрын

The proof is here, working on year five, these had endured heavy hail several times and wind gusts up over 70 miles an hr well over a dozen times and still look as good as the day I installed them.

@sambro9134 Күн бұрын

A bit dramatic. Geezus. 🙄

@stanleydrive740 10 ай бұрын

How do you clean them?

@MakeItorBreakItNow 10 ай бұрын

The rain seems to take care of that. Amazing really how well nature cooperates in this area. Eating my garden and plants, not so much. The sails also terrify squirrels and birds, they avoid them like the plague...

@thomaswilliam630 6 ай бұрын

Use chain for longevity

@MakeItorBreakItNow 6 ай бұрын

Good suggestion, although I jsut finished up year 4 and only replaced one line with paracord. If I get 5 years out of these sails I'll be happy.

@isabellavision Жыл бұрын

great info, cool ideas (pun intended)... and the background music of your first video on this topic is not missed. Much better without it!

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, I'm only using music at the end of my videos now. Trends seem to change over time...

@isabellavision Жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow Yours wasn't bad, it's just better without the unnecessary background music, I like the trend now, good job.

@wickedkarma Ай бұрын

A great tip is to use trampoline springs. It will allow the sail to stay taught, but also in crazy winds it gives it a little play and then snaps it back in place.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Ай бұрын

That's a great idea, thanks for sharing. I might try installing those this year.

@danielsun7298 10 ай бұрын

What a mess too much rigging but it works !!

@MakeItorBreakItNow 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. We all have our ways of doing things for sure.

@dcpowerdavid 11 ай бұрын

Either there is no wind where you live, or this was just put up for the video. Those stays wouldnt hold up in a mild wind.

@MakeItorBreakItNow 11 ай бұрын

Well the evidence proves otherwise. This setup has seen winds in excess of 60 mph several times and we regularly experience winds in the 20-25 mph range... 4 years and still going strong.

@d.j.vandermeer3832 Жыл бұрын

Learn how to use a sail on a sailboat. The material used on a sailboat can stand heavy windforce.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

D.J. van der Meer, agree, I've sailed all sorts of boats big and small, but all the sails were pretty strong, except for spinnakers, I've seen those shred by the dozen on certain races...

@d.j.vandermeer3832 Жыл бұрын

@@MakeItorBreakItNow I only sail on small boats (Falcon) on Dutch lakes with a jib and main sail but yes the spinnakers are easily gone. But they get a lot when sailing by the lee.

@MakeItorBreakItNow Жыл бұрын

@@d.j.vandermeer3832 yes they do, its great to feel a boat go up on plane with a spinnaker. Tacking can be fun too.