Wow

Best place to put the keyboard is where you can headbutt that key every time you're happy with your work, of course.. Nah just kidding, leaving markers is a good idea though :)

commercial application of music defines popular understanding and form. the musical process is based around an incentive model that doesn't fit life well. the first time we hear these new sounds, how is this different from experiencing music? what it means to the erudition of our spirit or mind. instead what is preferred is a redefinition of cultural form. we keep trying to make each other listen to music created with incentive. we're going about this wrond. review: why do we listen to music? how do we understand music? cannot many, many of the worthwhile applications of music (eg. mood redaction) be satisfied with other models? procedural music generators could provide constantly novel material to parse, with structure and substance. but instead of developing these interesting forms of presentation, we are stuck on making "song products". i hate these stupid "turn your loop into a song" - nobody knows what a song is anymore or can experience life and music outside of their culture because it upsets their formats. if twiddling a modular can be music, birds can be music, life can be music, procedural generation can be music, but i'm the only one who has done it for the last quarter century. now they've got "never gonna give you up but an AI tries to complete it" which is more imaginative than most composers and will completely replace all of you. because you were too boring to develop procedural algorithms outside of throwing a nerual net at it.

So Andrew are we going to get a polyend tracker review? I see it sitting in thebackground there and it seems like an ideal tool to put togther all those pre effected and found sounds on :)

​@@atomictraveller You're the only one who did it. So EVEYONE else is too boring to reach your towering heights of creativity? Shutuuuuup. Besides there is an intangible quality in human creativity that could never be recreated by AI, at least not any time soon, and at the end of the day, it's human creativity that programs it. Why not just use that human creativity to develop what sounds good to you? Essentially its the same thing, but going about it in a roundabout way. Why not develop AI that can write pretentious KZfaq comments for you, when clearly you can just write them yourself? Sound is sound, it's all vibration. Creating a single sound is likely to be used in part of a much, much larger project with potentially a hundred tracks. If you think any current AI music sounds in any way imaginative, you're crazy. So much goes into volume and timing dynamics via human touch that no AI is anywhere near recreating. You also say that if twiddling a modular can be music than so can procedural generation, but that very point also expresses that twiddling a modular IS in fact music, or creating "song products" is music. So what's your stance? That contradicts. Some make music to be recognized, some make music for self satisfaction and don't care what happens or who hears it. You act as if the latter doesn't exist, and you're the only one trying to break the mold by developing algorithms for a technology that will only have implications for creating super simple sound structures that follow basic theory, with some randomized directions. It will still be missing the million human elements that go into music. Creativity relies on context, and you won't, in your lifetime see an AI that can understand context. Can it replace situations for musical scores and stuff like that? Maybe. Will it ever write a song like say, Elliott Smith, or John Lennon could write? No. Wake up dude, acting like your some master. How about you just write a great song yourself? Or can you not do that? How are you going to develop an algorithm for something you don't understand yourself? Bang on your Ear sounds like my grandmother tried to recreate an Aphex Twin track in an hour. There's a reason for common themes in music, and a right and wrong way to explore beyond them. But ok. You're the only one! Apply that limitless creativity and groundbreaking vision to make some good music now. Most musicians don't care about, or have interest in developing algorithms bro, we just wanna make music. Like with real analogue instruments and vocals and stuff. Go ahead and work on the algorithms though, that's your prerogative, and your music is fine, but it certainly doesn't justify your points.

I think sound design is more like drawing seperate, independent lines with specific techniques. Sketching, most of the time, is already about assembling lines together to make a "thing" (which sound equivalent is a "song")

A writer writes every day.

sketching is is more like practicing. making sounds isn't going to make you a better musician. making music makes you a better musician. a proper equivalent would be a visual artist making his own pencils. or creating their own paints.

@@Kevinschart I disagree. A proper equivalent of your argument would be an musician making the instrument. As a visual artist, I have had many pieces come from doodling, sketching, whatever you like to call it. I see no difference with "doodling" different sounds.

@@Kevinschart No, that would be like coding your own softsynths, or soldering your own hardware -- Which some musicians do. What Andrew's doing is more akin to playing with non-standard tunings and excitement of an already existing (acoustic) instrument's hardware. Regardless, I don't see how you can argue that sound design doesn't make one a better musician -- Doesn't Andrew's music speak for itself?

THIS!

the difference is: he's working in some form and your not

Johns Junk 🤦‍♂️ that’s not constructive in any way, you don’t have a clue how much he’s working or how much he isn’t. Don’t be so preachy and get off your high horse. I hate people like you.

@Johns Junk Why!? You presumably don't even now him! Get outta here if you just want to hate on people randomly. You are certainly welcomed when you are not that unkind....

I identify intensely with this.

True, but as somebody who is coming back to music/putting in effort for the first time i kindoff think that i shant bother with making sounds, other than maybe to sample some real world sound for a track tbh

That legit opened my third eye.

I've been looking for this quote for so long!!!

​@@Downloadguy1995 Making sounds yourself is always great. Even if you're not good at getting good stuff out of synths, you can just use some sample or preset and go ham with effects and stuff.

Hey, your Guitar Hero meme charts with Bandipat are great.

"EDM purists"

For real, for me if i’m ever tripping up on myself thinking about if I should use presets or raw sounds or samples or something I just remind myself it always boils down to if it sounds good it sounds good.

Right. However, making your own sound feels better imo.

If it sounds good, it sounds good. Doesn't matter if it was custom made for one-time use or if it's meant for many uses. The important part is exercising good taste in putting the right sounds together - knowing what to use, when, and how. Insisting on only using one's own patches which were made during the song is like a painter only using paints they produced themselves. It doesn't generally make the end result any better; it mostly just makes the process harder.

😂

@@LEVRAN i say leave it to the experts. i don't think billy joel spent a lot of time "making sounds"... he wrote music. this advice is not for everyone

@@Kevinschart music is sounds, he tuned instruments in a certain way, he sung in a certain way, and instruments are meant to be played in a certain way. He did spend a lot of his time making sounds, that is how songs are made.

@@TheParadox1010 i disagree, but whatever "sound designing" Billy did, he didn't do it to the degree Andrew is talking about. he wasn't walking around his house banging pans together and sampling them. Andrew makes bleep bloop music. Everyone isn't into that. Plenty of working producers that aren't spending their free time patching up modulars.

@@Kevinschart and everyone isn't into Billy Joel (I know, but it's true). Why bother making this comment? Billy Joel is better than Andrew? Is that your point here? This is a great video for those interested... if you're not, that's fine too but what are you trying to accomplish? Of course this advice is not for everyone, very little is.

Ohh totally! Great idea. That could work actually very well if you are recording on the session View

hehe that's weirdly funny and also an awesome idea!

Or even use your foot pedal !!!

If you're like me, with a non-wireless keyboard and only one MIDI controller... You could hook up an instrument (in my case, a bass), keep it nearby & recording (but not monitoring haha) and hit the strings really hard with your feet every time you get something good

@@ts4gv I can see myself getting used to doing this, and forgetting how rediculous it would look to another human... " why does he keep hitting his guitar randomly with his feet hahahaha"

He's the only dude alive who could get away with saying it. I've said it to musicians in the studio when I've been producing and felt like I was moments away from being murdered lol.

This isn't a new idea/concept :)

*pro gamer move

Beau Tyler one time i told a dude a daw was an instrument and he told me to get my head out of my ass

Micah Brossiet sounds like the other musician had his head up his ass. Takes just as much time and dedication to learn a daw as it does an instrument.

DUUUDE!

Lol too real

Hah, I did that once, just sketching an idea out and setting it aside within the project I'd made the sound in because I got a different idea for it -- different time sig and everything -- and then it organically wound up just being a different movement later in the same song lol

And completely forget the song lol

making new crazy tunes inside the crazy tunes you intended to make

Facts! Then u loose all sort of inspiration :/

He said that and I'm like... "How the F$#k did I missed that?!?!" Amazing perspective

I dont get it, you mean using a preset in a synth to build upon the pre-existing sound rather than from the default preset?

@@tahaqtr7439 The synth is newer than the guitar. So the presets have had less time to get better.

YES! I have expounded this virtue precisely to my family/friends who don't understand "computer" music. Thank you for validating my craziness.

Yep! It’s best not to worry about what you make, but rather just to... make something 😆

@JohnnyAshtray It was REALLY cool!! (It was still a guitar though ;)

@@jurj4108 I'm an idiot. Fixed.

Yup I legit don't know how that was done.

@@johnnyashtray Haha, no worries. It wasn't an insult. I was mentioning it only jokingly :)

@@jurj4108 Thank you for that though. I honestly didn't even notice until you mentioned. I'm sure I would have been called out by someone else as well.

This really should be the top comment. Great idea

Yeah I do this with my guitar recording too, very useful

@@aurynholmes Thanks Holmes

@Greg Jonson I feel you man. Like.... totally. Take care 🙏 Peace!

it's the same over here. I also fail to do everything efficiently so that's extra annoying, but I'm just trying to do what feels good for me. What comes out naturally w/o me even thinking about it, and honestly, chemistry is not for me. I love all things science but it's taking me nowhere-or at least that's how I've been feeling for a while now. Glad to know I'm (we're) not alone. All the best to you both and may music bring peace and joy upon us💙

I got outta this (somewhat pessimistically) with the realisation that nothing I'll ever do is permanent and very few people will see anything I do. The bright side to that fact is that it's okay to make mistakes and waste time because _that's what you're already doing by trying to make something that'll last._ The way I see it, I have ~80 years to have fun and help everyone else have fun, so that's what I'll aim to do.

You got this, man. I can be the saaaaame way. Gotta have fun with it.

You can find purpose in God, get yo know him.

Yeah it's a whole different gear, or mindset. When you want to just write music, it's incredibly boring and feels like your entire workflow grinds to a hault when you have to spend 30 minutes tweaking some patch and twisting knobs figuring out what you want. When you have a fleshed out bank of sounds you can pull from at any time it allows you to speed up the process and know that everything you're using is somewhat unique to you, and it allows you to just focus on the fun part of writing music. It's like if an artist had to stop every 5 minutes to completely mix a new type of paint from completely from scratch, instead of just being able to choose their palette and mix and then start, tweaking as they go.

Did it work?

Post your results bro! We'd love to hear em

It Scarred me a little 😂😂

Yeah, had to rewind it 😆 so good

same lol

"noise artist" Lmao

@James To get a feeling of superiority with the least amount of effort?

ERIS PADS HER CHEST

James it may just sound funny. Like “jelly squasher”

Yes same. It's so nice not to have that pressure.

Awh yea Andy! Depths anissss!!

Tap that keyboard with my toe? Nahh... When I see that keyboard I know it's batteries are down...

hi andrew :) love yor vids

Give pls ru caption plsss.

The most important two things, at least for me, are: A) Spend time making music frequently, and B) Do something different each time. Together, these two pretty much guarantee you'll improve and have something to show for it.

I have the first one powder coated in white!

🤣🤣🤣🤣

The comment is always something like “gūÿš ïf ÿöù wäñt à frëė ìphøńé 11 jüśt gö tõ thïś łïńk: hejhbejiusii.ml”

I don’t know why they don’t work sometimes 😡

U is for uranium... BOMBS!

Nathan V Please don’t

FunUraniumNuclear

Down here in the deep blue sea!

@@daredevilofficial4100 Don't go throwing your Catholic guilt on me, Mr. Lawyer-Man! I know who you are, Matthew!

FL studio is less straight forward that Ableton live

A lot more handy for sound design (don't know if there's something close to max for live lfos and stuff) and obviously for live (it's in the name). I find a lot more simple and sraight in a general way (but Every one don't think the same, wich i can understand). Must admit that in my opinion it kinda suck for mix, it's waaaaay behind Protools for that

And FL studio has a great piano roll 😜

@James I don't know Reaper really well, so i can't talk for that. But pro tools is very malleable, when you got to go in depht with your mix, protools really make a difference, the routing is way more free, the editing is easier (there is a lot of little tool that are really usefull and help you with that). You Always see everything, ableton is focus on one track, and i don't know if there is anyway to keep an eye on one plug in if you change track. Last but not least: a sh*tload of shortcut. That the few thing that come first to my mind. It's hard to really explain, you got to try the both on a badly recorded mix to understand how PT can save you countless hours. Hope i've teach you a least one interesting thing x), ask more question if you need to, i'll happily answer it ^^

Runix first