It's ok, it a just an "upper body injury" the NHL has it under control. (Sarcasm)

My heart sank when Larkin wasn't moving. He has a history of getting serious hits to the head and it pisses me off to see it happen again. Admittedly, it didn't look intentional but it still sucks regardless. Perron made a boneheaded decision and got called for it. He arguably lost us the game by being the second forward to leave the game. Losing your captain and getting kicked 5-1 in you're own building feels awful

as Panters fan...never wanna see things like this happening..thats scary shit right there.. Hope Larkin is ok and he doesnt miss this season..He is a BEAST

Was unfortunate, the cross check to the head after was shitty though.

Hope Larkin is ok. Perron needs to get a few games for that intent to injure. Defender was calling for help and totally defenceless.

When I first saw it, I thought he was cross checked at the base of the neck and Larkin was paralyzed. Thankfully, I was wrong and it appears that he will recover. Frightening on so many levels.

"this one from last season from Joseph." Joseph has been on the sens for 2 seasons now ....

Perron deserved the call and the hearing he'll have but Joseph should've got more than 2 for roughing just for targeting the Head, Kelly I'd like to believe was off balance coming in to clear the net front and didn't imo mean to tag Larkin in the head on his way down. Just my take

I don't think there was any intent to harm here. Scrums in front of the net get crazy. The hit high in the back should get called, and it did. I don't think Kelly was trying to hit in the head. He came in to hit in the chest, but the hit from behind knocked Larkin's head down into Kelly's hit. A couple of roughing calls later, and I think the refs actually got this one right in the end.

What a dirty play by Perron no room for that in the game!

I'm a Wings fan, I think they got it right. Kelly's contact looks totally accidental, but it was still to the head. Joseph's looks worse, but it's a loose puck scrum in front of the net, and he's trying to clear that area out. In the chaos, I don't think he hit Larkin where he meant to. Perron had more time to think about what he was doing and his hit was just as dangerous as anything Larkin could've been subjected to. Of course, for trying to assume the best about human beings playing a game, I'm getting roasted by Wings fans.

Joseph has a history with Larkin yes, but if you think this one was intentional give your head a shake. The first guy to go check on Larkin was Joseph. I think it was just an unfortunate incident, the push to the head combined with Kelly coming in was just super unlucky for Larkin, hope he's not too bad off.

From the multiple replays, Joseph's hit really doesn't look that bad. It clearly isn't a cross-check because Joseph doesn't have both hands on his stick and the stick isn't the primary contact point. It looks like a rough shove in the face, but certainly not enough to leave someone unconscious. If I had to guess, I'd argue that it was probably Kelly coming in from the front and hitting him square on the jaw as Larkin was falling that actually knocked him cold. In either case, it doesn't look intentional. Scary-looking play, but at best a minor penalty. I think the refs got it right.

My legs were literally shaking when i realized larkin wasn't getting up

In comments people saying the retaliation was wrong, f that, if you played ice hockey you know you can’t let your boy go done like that, that’s a real friend/teammate right there bravo 👏

Larkin collapsed at a regular face off when playing Ottawa before, does he have an underlying health issue ?

I see Perron is still the same p.o.s. He was in St. Louis

i hope Dylan Larkin will be okay and fast recovery

Perron must have thought he saw Kadri

Does Joseph have a thing?

I was at this game

I would advise anybody super sure this was a dirty play to watch the Brian Sutterer video covering the injury. Seems like a very flukey injury from very little contact.

Doesn't seem like the first hit had anything to do with getting KOd. He took that right hand clean to the chin went out just like any fighter that would to a shot like that.

The fighting over top of injured players HAS TO STOP. These are grown adults, control yourself for 2 seconds and move off the fallen player. It's only a matter of time before someone gets stepped on in one of these useless scrums. Why the instant reaction? What ever happened to letting the refs sort it out and take a number. Ridiculousness.

Don’t justify perrons actions. Unfortunate play. Hope the player is alright. But to go after ZUb like that is dead wrong. Get the medical attention need for Dylan. Then address later in the game.

Suspend Perron for 20 games. What a freaking joke.

From Larkin being down like that to Perron’s major, it was just an all around shitty situation

Detroit needs new goalies ASAP

This was an unfortunate accident. Does not look intentional in any way, however they are still responsible for their actions.

Aside from lifelong migraines and personality changes, he will be fine.

Throwing him out for that is complete utterly bullshit call. Holy fuck.

Perron is a PoS. I'm glad they slapped him with the big penalty. I get wanting to stick up for your team but you dont do it by cross checking a guy in his face while he's not even paying attention to you.

He needs to retire.. before he get's killed' to many neck injuries Larkin has had since returning from neck surgery. i just hope larkin makes the right dicision

Kelly likes to hit people with the end of his stick. He did the same thing against Chicago that caused a player to be taken off the ice on a stretcher. It's hard to think the two were just by coincidence.

Hope he will be ok

Perron needs to sit a few games for that

As a redwings fan, I agree with almost everything said in this video. I even agree with the intent to injure was the right call, but I mean… who wouldn’t do the same, you see one of your brothers, who is also one of the most valuable redwing, who is your captain, who already had such a tuff season with his child, and you see him on the ice no motion at all, in a game so fast. If he didn’t intentionally try to injure, then someone else would.

Really stupid play by Perron. He went after the wrong guy. The rest of the team should have given Joseph the Claude Lemieux treatment.

Perron is a fucking goof. Glad Larkin is ok!

Kelly should not be punished

As a Detroit fan, refs definitely made the right call for all players involved. I just wish if Perron was gonna cross-check anyone, it shoulda been the right guy. Poor Zub, just trying to help a brother out...

Are you kidding me!

I still can't figure out how that knocked Larkin out. None of that seemed enough to black someone out for almost a whole minute.

It looked like Joseph got bumped right before he hit Larkin. Regardless it was a bad hit. Perron is a clown and will probably get suspended. It was also sad to hear the entire arena boo Zub when he got up from being injured after Perron tried to take his head off.

That was tough to watch, I do hope Larkin wasn’t seriously hurt. Red Wings have a good start this season and I would like to see them carry this momentum into the rest of the season. Picking up Kane will do nothing but help this team.

I think that Perron should get a 10 game suspension. There is no room for what he did.

I think it would be in Larkins best interest for his health and safety to possibly look at retirement. It's unfortunate but he needs to look after himself.

I miss Vladimir in blue

Should be a fine and suspension

luckily it seemed like it was just a knock out from being hit int he face(like being punched). not that it’s a good thing, but there’s a lot worse that could have happened during that sequence.

The way NHL rules are called right now is just completely fucking stupid. Punch a guy straight in the head/neck area because he's standing near the front of the net? Totally legal, even if that punch leads to him lying face down motionless on the ice for 2 minutes (yeah yeah, Kelly's knockout blow was unintentional, but the NHL has a record of calling 5 minute majors on guys who commit minor penalties that lead to freak injuries). Tap a guy lightly anywhere remotely near his heavily padded gloves while he's in the offensive zone? Penalty, how dare you engage in such behavior!

Honestly looking at Joseph alittle more closely the dude doesn’t play the puck looks right at the back of Larkins head and pushes it full extension into a vulnerable position.

Idk how Larkin went out cold junk from that love tap.

Good. Thanks.

it was hard to watch

didn't perron realise it was a hockey rink & not a pub car-park? way to go start fighting by stepping over your unconscious mate! 2 lagers when your ready please charlein!!

i was at work when that happen. hope Larkin is alright. as a red wing fan and goalie i 100% stand what Perron did. and the ref did the rights calls on everyone.

reffing this year has been a joke

I was in social media and people were making fun of Dylan Larkin for what has happened this past week. Shit is fucked up

Joseph looked suspicious in his hit. Definitely elevated contact which he had aware control of. I think Kelly was honestly more of reactionary to Larkin falling more into him and Kelly trying to oush him away. Unfortunate no doubt, but yeah, Kelly I think is ok. Joseph... not so much. And yes, it is obvious Perron's ejection was warranted for how it went down. We all knew his intent and sadly he got the wrong guy. I really hope the NHL's Player Safety Comittee will review this again as I think Joseph rightly deserves a suspension. Perron does as well.

Goot bless Larkin 🙏🙏

Oh what you gonna do, some plays hockey, some just comment

Preface with I am a Wings fan, so I am a little biased. Unfortunate situation, but I don't think it was as malicious as I have seen. The wings saw worse garbage coming from the rat king in terms of dirty plays... Looks like clear, albeit weak, contact to the head from Joseph, and then clear, but mostly accidental/reactionary contact from Kelley to Larkin's head that I could totally see as incidental. I'm all for tough hockey, but we have to draw a line to prevent career ending injuries like these sort of blows to the heads. I think Joseph should have gotten a double minor, but there isnt ruling for this in the NHL from what I have heard, and its too tough for me to tell if its a 5 minute major. Joseph has had a history, which makes this difficult to gauge. Id like to see him thrown out and suspended, but I have to recognize that this has a chance of being incidental and just plain unfortunate. If youre going to make a blow to someones head, you have to take full responsibility for what happens after.... Which leads into Perron's 100% deserved game misconduct, no argument there. I respect standing up for our Captain (and wish others did too). If i saw a player do that to one of our Wings, I would want them thrown out. I just wish he wouldve gotten the player right, and maybe not go for a stick to the face on Zeb. Lets see more gloves dropped and scrapping it out, with no potential crazy career ending injuries

Larkin may be done. Perry was doing what you do, defending his teammate, that was not some outrageous thing. Larkin needs to take some time and maybe get checked for CTE. I hope not for his sake. And this is from a Blues fan. All the best Larks.

I was there in the crowd when it happened. Once Larkin laid there motionless on the ice EVERYBODY lost it. The rest of the night you could feel the atmosphere in LCA. Almost like a new rivalry started and what felt like fight night at the Joe all over again. Praying that Dylan is alright and hope Joseph is ready for his return to Detroit in January

I thought LARKIN was dead! I was realy upset, i hope he will be ok. ❤❤❤❤❤

truth is, if larkin doesn't get injured, it's unlikely that joseph and kelly would even get minor penalties. that's standard shoving in front of the crease with a goaltender down and a puck being chipped loose. The refs probably should have only called a minor or joseph and the match on Perron, but hey nobodies perfect.

As a Wings fan, I definitely know why Perron did what he did. Heat of the moment, you see your captain unconscious on the ice..it’s understandable. Also I definitely can see Perron getting fined or possibly suspended. Not saying he shouldn’t have done it, but he definitely will be getting further punishment, as it was definitely intent to injure, and he went after the wrong guy.

Perron definitely deserves to get suspended for 10 games for that intent to injure cross check to the head

Larkin doing the "Albatross" in front of the net, lookin like Luongo...never a good angle for anyone

dr brian sutterer on youtube does a really good job on explaining multiple possibilities on what happened if yall were as confused as i was at first

this is why Probert was on Yzerman's line......if Larkin had a guy like that on his wing, Joseph's gonna think twice about going high like that. Whether or not it was a cross-check, he clearly went after his head and for that he should be punished.

I was watching this game, when this happened and I heard Joseph, I also saw red. The first clip looks bad because it IS VERY BAD. Joseph has a video resume of dirty checks. You can see in that first clip that Joseph actively decides to raise his hands from the back/shoulders area to the head, then he gives him a hard punch. Perron getting the 5 and game is fine, but only if you're giving Joseph a 5 and a game as well. They're basically the same thing. This game was awful for officiating all around. They called a couple phantom calls. Think it's hilarious that you have the one in my mind there.

Kelly hit carotid

I've watched this video 4 times now, what actually hurt Larkin? The puzzy left hand punch to larkins face from joseph or did the slight push on the back of the shoulders while he was going down by whoever....either way, what a fucking soccer dive that was

The Wings are used to dirty hits hurting key players. Anyone remember the Turtle the Coward's hit on Draper? That hit turned into back-to-back Championships for the Wings. Hopefully this hit will inspire the Wings. Also loved seeing Perron stand up for the Cap. Guy should have gotten an award instead of ejected. That and leadership comes in many forms.

Joseph is a repeat offender. Goes up high on purpose. Dave deserved a few games, but Zub was right back. Perron got 6 games?? Trouba swung a stick like a baseball bat and got way less. You don't care about the game if you think Mathew cunting Joseph had good intentions.

there was a video of a doctor breaking it down, and i think it was the specific part of Larkins neck got hit just right that it caused his body to have raised his blood pressure causing him to collapse like he did, so the head hang may have been the after math of how weak he felt after that spot was hit, he shouldn’t have a concussion, but still was kind of dirty and Joseph should’ve been ejected if Perron was

This really needs to stop. Cross checking, or punching a guy in the head when he's not even looking at you is stupid and dangerous. The guy has done it so many times to Larks and the league does nothing about it. DP deserves a 10 game suspension. His reaction was even worse. We don't need it in the game. I wish the players would tell the league, collectively, start calling shots to the head on all players, I don't care if they're "stars" or not, or there's going to be a lock out. Larks takes cross checks each and every game and it's sickening. Fine the players after the fact and suspend them and that behavior will stop. It's stupid.

What exactly did Perron do?

A hockey play has already murdered another hockey player this year in Europe. Soon, the same will happen in the NHL, a terrible league with priorities ass backwards. 14 year old kids get banned for life from the NHL for things they did as children, but adult males are intentionally injuring other players and getting 2 or 3 games.

Perron is going to get 2 games, I wouldn't be surprised if it was more. I think the refs got it right too. Joesph also got bumped from behind with all the pushing and shoving which kinda exacerbated the whole thing. Either way, terrible situation and glad Larkin was able to get to his own feet.

I'd never hate someone for their opinion; however, Joseph should have gotten more, maybe he will. It has happened tons of times where players don't intend on hitting someone and putting them out of the game; however, Joseph's hit to Larkin's head is what precipitated the Kelly inadvertent strike to the face. Maybe I'm biased, but Larkin doesn't go out if he isn't first hit in the head (glove vs stick, doesn't matter) by Joseph. Secondly, Perron gets everything he deserves. Idiot play, but I get it.

As usual, another NHL mush head blows a situation out of proportion, goes after the wrong person, and costs his team the game.

Kelly and Joseph both targeted the head/neck. They should both be suspended/fined, this needs to be out of hockey, period.

When did this happen NHL fails again

Both shots werr 100% accidental. Maybe the league should start enforcing crosschecks? Players think it's legal because the refs don't do their job.

The NHL really needs to crack down on hits to the head or neck area and start calling matches more often or somebody is going to be left dead or paralyzed. I would hate to see another Moore incident where the player is left unable to move and paralyzed for the rest of his life. Prayers for Larkin and his family because they were already going through a very difficult time before this happened.

10 games for that

This is the 100% method of checking these days? That's all you see anymore during an NHL game, these guys are bigger, stronger and faster, but yet, the lazy triggered NHLPA always seems to resort to using the CROSSCHECK as a way to check someone the last 10 years or so I suppose if they resort to nice clean BODY CHECK, they'll have to fight, because they've TRIGGERED the opponent to DEFEND a teammate even though it's part of the game Just remove the cross checking penalty NHL, it's not like you really call these infractions anymore

Looks like there were multiple people attempting to injure larkin at the same time. What a dirty play

Until the league takes action these injuries will happen, not defending Perron but that kind of hit to a defenceless player have got to stop

OLD MAN KANE MADE THE MISTAKE OF NOT COMING TO FLORIDA

There was no cross check to the head. Unfortunate strange result. The guy will be fine. No fault of the senators players. Detroit fans showing their level of education. (It’s very low)

There should be charges filed . This was an intentional hit . Larkin and this guy have issues .

This unintentional argument on joesphs hit is annoying as hell. He knew exactly what he was doing both hands to the head/neck, and the second time he's taken Larkin out of a game with this sort of play. If you put a gun to someone's head but don't mean to pull the trigger, they don't lessen your sentence because it's an "accident"

Larkin was definitely milking that one. There wasn't enough contact to knock him out lol.

Could see a suspension coming from that dirty cross check to the back of the head

Investigate the guy who knocked him out

Joseph will get his. Don’t worry