Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Mask?

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@BelcarrigFarm 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the real man in the iron mask was the friends we made along the way

@hstrangemusic 3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t have to look long for this one. Still funny as shit.

@karbyyyyyy 3 жыл бұрын

Reeeee

@BlueeJ 3 жыл бұрын

You guys made friends? ):

@jerrys4841 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the prison keeper Saint-Mars was being used, against his will, to keep the iron mask locked up? Iron mask probably was a nobody but Saint-Mars was forced to keep him alive as long as possible. When did iron mask die and when did Saint-Mars die?

@Journey_Awaits 3 жыл бұрын

Throw some cancer into the mix Hi Maybe the real man in the iron mask was the friends we made along the way, I'm dad

@Warfiend 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that they kept him alive for so long is what makes those theories possible. Normally they would just kill someone in that situation, especially in the 1600s it was an absolute monarchy. He must have been too "important" to kill, so instead he was basically tortured for 30 years, sheesh.

@Sombre____ 2 жыл бұрын

Wrong, Louis XVII where not kill.

@Warfiend 2 жыл бұрын

@Real Aiglon You're an actual clown and apparently you can't read, I never said they killed for no reason.

@tylerarmstrong4566 Жыл бұрын

Incest in Royalty, Baby's are too young for ppl of that time to know if his son had normal intelligence or not

@user-bl6vb3vk5q 3 ай бұрын

I think he was royalty and the king at that time stole his Thorne

@obsessivelyobsessed5263 3 жыл бұрын

isn't it possible that Voltaire came up with the iron mask as a metaphor for being kept silent by force of law, as well as to hide his identity?

@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs 2 жыл бұрын

that's what i thought it was

@thefinalfrontear 2 жыл бұрын

my theory is that the multiple doors of his cell were the iron mask. i think if he was ever described as being “masked by iron” it could have been misinterpreted as a literal mask

@oppaloopa3698 2 жыл бұрын

@@thefinalfrontear Ooo that’s interesting!

@midgetman4206 2 жыл бұрын

Well, the fact that there is evidence of A guy existing, perhaps a literal mask man wasn't.

@kenm2709 2 жыл бұрын

the letters provide proof that he was an actual prisoner, we are passed proving if he was real or not

@caspersorensen5685 3 жыл бұрын

Voltaire: "we should be rational and only do and believe things based on evidence." Also Voltaire: spreads rumours with no evidence.

@jioden9665 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t blame someone for loving gossip

@riftvallance2087 2 жыл бұрын

He means other people's rumors of course

@andywilchsalem2377 2 жыл бұрын

*CasPer; I Know that is too Deeep for your small Brain, to Understand!!!!*

@dreambuilder4536 Жыл бұрын

Well there's an obvious answer here: a social experiment to find out if people were taking his advice Spoiler: they didn't

@venomxo4075 Жыл бұрын

He has no proof .

@jbird4478 3 жыл бұрын

Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Mask? Short answer: No Long answer: No

@escapedcops08 3 жыл бұрын

That's all I needed to know, 17 minutes of nothing would have been a waste of time.

@seanroy3241 3 жыл бұрын

Longer answer: Noooooooo

@jbird4478 3 жыл бұрын

@@escapedcops08 It's not nothing. I mean, he tells the story in his usual interesting way, so if you don't know about it, it is certainly worth the watch. The title is just... meh. But he'll annoyingly change that anyway.

@jbird4478 3 жыл бұрын

@@warpstar4282 Oh, you poor thing. Are they hurting your feelings of insecurity?

@warpstar4282 3 жыл бұрын

@@jbird4478 and I won't stop until I get my revenge

@corplit 3 жыл бұрын

This guy is honestly one of if not the greatest story teller

@uncommon-commonsense 3 жыл бұрын

Him and Mrballen.

@TheLampeKing 3 жыл бұрын

@@uncommon-commonsense sam o nella

@aced9852 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately he talks too much and says too little often, probably for watch time. His videos could be a third or maybe even half the time

@arisparrein7476 3 жыл бұрын

🤫

@uncommon-commonsense 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLampeKing Thank you for the reference. I've been looking for some new stuff to watch.

@incredibleflameboy 3 жыл бұрын

The man in the iron mask was the first attempt at forming slipknot. I firmly believe that the heavily guarded prison was a secret recording studio where look outside your window was recorded

@Val.Kyrie. 2 жыл бұрын

Nailed it.

@Damen.Biervliet 2 жыл бұрын

Yea. Like the iron mask looks like Mick thomson's mask🤣

@debkillz930 Жыл бұрын

This is the best one I have seen 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@CallofFreaky Жыл бұрын

that would be metal as fuck

@jayme1776 Жыл бұрын

Shredding on the lute

@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 3 жыл бұрын

We may not know the identity of the man in the iron mask, but who's the man behind your mustache?

@ribs3910 3 жыл бұрын

Thoughty1

@elokin300 3 жыл бұрын

Ironic since you don’t have a mustache

@floccinaucinihilipilificat3684 3 жыл бұрын

We can all identify ourselves with the man in the iron mask!

@noahhyde8769 3 жыл бұрын

One thing's for sure: with that description, Voltaire was NOT a 'progressive' leftist. He was the opposite. He was a true, classic liberal.

@DJDisalwaysright 3 жыл бұрын

Thoughty2^2

@jeffrapier947 3 жыл бұрын

I figure, if it was someone kept alive, it would have to be someone who the king held a significant sentimental attachment to, or a bitter enemy whom the king felt just putting him (or her even) to death would be too quick. Someone the king would want to have suffer. A random valet who knew a dirty secret would just be beheaded and done with.

@jaustill237 3 жыл бұрын

I've always assumed that it was an ex-boyfriend.

@magsmcgarrigle981 3 жыл бұрын

So, he had enough empathy not to kill him, but made him suffer the rest of his life? Royals. What a bastard. Pardon the pun. 🥜’s

@slightliestupid9 3 жыл бұрын

@@jaustill237 wow that is a really good theory

@Razer5542 3 жыл бұрын

The prisoner must've been family/a relative or perhaps a high ranking politician that wanted to throw dirt on Louis, otherwise it would be better to just kill the prisoner off somewhere. Perhaps that the real name is written somewhere in a book that's being held behind locked doors in the deepest parts of the Vatican library, where only a few select people are allowed to come.

@heroicsquirrel3195 3 жыл бұрын

@@magsmcgarrigle981 no, he wouldve wanted the person to suffer more lol

@tonicastel5933 3 жыл бұрын

The French kings had such extensive power, believed to be divinely appointed, that only a truly significant moral or existential threat would have compelled Louis XIV from executing someone who clearly presented a big threat to him. The fact that he kept the prisoner alive hints to me that the prisoner was a blood relation to Louis, meaning that his murder would result in eternal punishment of Louis’ eternal soul. If the prisoner were a disgraced courtier, general or any other subject, no such eternal obstacle would have existed to his execution.

@countofdownable 3 жыл бұрын

Precisely anyone other than a blood relative would have been killed immediately.

@chaostourist2951 3 жыл бұрын

makes sense. the movie made me fond of the twin idea.

@Vikingbiznitch 3 жыл бұрын

So, maybe it WAS his father cus the royals certainly didn't have problems with killing siblings...

@TheKulu42 3 жыл бұрын

I'm inclined to go with the father theory. In the version I've heard, the poor guy looked far too much like his royal son. The idea is that since Louis 13 couldn't provide an heir, a suitable substitute was found to do the job and keep the royal line going.

@Rhyno9750 3 жыл бұрын

Ummm good theory and all, but being kept alive doesn't actually prove he was a blood relative or any kind of relation at all. It just proves he was important, one way or another, and an execution would've been an extremely bad idea. He could've easily have been a religious figure who they couldn't kill because it wouldvev made him a martyr. We just don't know.

@gamma1338 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the "Iron Mask" was the amount of iron doors that stood between his identity and the outside world?

@Stowneyo 2 жыл бұрын

In French that's almost a direct translations

@Laffy-ix5xy 3 жыл бұрын

So, to be more precise, it's "The man behind the velvet hood and several iron doors." It just doesn't have the same ring to it.

@mnassif3809 2 жыл бұрын

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@Afrikoe 3 жыл бұрын

It probably has to do with the French words for "fur" (some specifiek kind), "glass" and "iron". "Vair", "verre" and "fer" respectively. They kind of sound alike. So the mask was made of soft fabric, like the slippers of Cinderella. There. Mystery solved. You're welcome.

@Erik_Swiger 3 жыл бұрын

"The Man in the Furry Mask" LOL

@pricklypear7516 3 жыл бұрын

I had heard that about Cinderella's slippers. Frankly, glass slippers sound like a terrible idea to me!

@kdvincent1982 3 жыл бұрын

No one thanked you.

@Lightning_Lance 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@raylightbown4968 3 жыл бұрын

This immediately occurred to me, too, as a likely possibility. Of course, the alleged mistranslation of Cinderella's shoes is refuted as Perrault wrote "verre" in the original story, at least according to Stopes.

@bigpapa4207 3 жыл бұрын

I’m convinced he’s saying 42 on purpose now knowing we all think that’s what he says

@DD-mu5me 3 жыл бұрын

he is saying 42. the ai picks it up. say thoughty 2 and then forty 2. the ai will pick it up. the ai always says he say 42 not thoughty2. he is saying 42 and fucking with us, confirmed thru ai.

@carterhall2653 3 жыл бұрын

His accent is saying thoughty2, listen to when he says "3", it sounds like he says "Free" it's the region he comes from in the UK. There are many different accents throughout Great 🇬🇧Britain

@HashknightGaming 3 жыл бұрын

He does say 42 it's a reference the ultimate question of the universe and everything.

@caff8602 3 жыл бұрын

His accent drops th and replaces it with an f sound. Thought is pronounced fought, Think is pronounced fink. East Londoners all have this accent.

@nahbirdie4773 3 жыл бұрын

That was exposed ages ago. Tsk tsk. He does it on purpose as an inside joke. Go back to his oldest videos. He did a Q+A

@jorgenamnum6481 2 жыл бұрын

its crazy how the plan to keep him a secret worked perfectly

@jackryanTV Жыл бұрын

Haha fr

@blackoceancreativeuniverse 3 жыл бұрын

"Why have vanilla ice cream when you have have mint choc chip, indeed."- Alexandre Dumas, from his seminal work, "The Man in the Ice Cream Mask" (1733)

@maxbuchanan9306 3 жыл бұрын

Now, let's get realistic: Solitary Confinement has some pretty drastic effects on the human mind. After the 5th year kept in such a manner, Whoever the guy was, he would be a gibbering Lunatic. The notion that Anyone would listen to, or even Understand, a word he said after his mind degraded in the dark, is highly unlikely. Meaning the containment procedures and secrecy had little to do with What he Knew, and Alot more to do with Who he Was. Now, consider Just How Many people royals killed or had killed with little to no regard, and the chance of it being anyone who wasn't a Direct Blood Relative of the king is slim to none. And now, how many royals killed their siblings? Many. How many killed their Fathers to ensure their own rule? Quite a few. But yknow who Often (but far from Always) escaped the chopping block? Children. Specifically Male children, legitimate or illegitimate. I think the man in the mask was the illegitimate Son of the king, who after his discovery, even likelier still the illegitimate heir to the throne who prior to being discovered had taken up the Cloth (priest or monk or friar etc) as it was Very much so frowned upon to Kill holy men. Furthermore: the soundproofing. Sure, if he knew some specific secret it'd be lost to the madness. But the constant reciting of holy texts and prayers, the kind of thing you could Only learn if you were a) Literate and b) A Member of the Church? That kind of indoctrination sticks with you, and in an Era when Literacy was almost entirely reserved for the Nobility OR the Church? That's a Clear signal to anyone who hears him saying that is a Nobleman, and Likely a holy man. Worse so if he both Looked like AND sounded like his father, the King. Just my two cents worth.

@WobblesandBean 3 жыл бұрын

Not related to him. Possibly related to ANOTHER very, very important dignitary that he knew would get him in a ton of trouble if he executed him. So he could maintain plausible deniability by saying "yeah sure, of course he's alive, he's being VERY well cared for"

@AnthonyIlstonJones 3 жыл бұрын

Very plausible theory Buchanan-san, but sadly Louis did a very good job of hiding the evidence. It's likely we'll never know for sure, but I for one very much doubt it was someone unrelated to the King.

@Dan_Kanerva 2 жыл бұрын

"solitary _confinement has pretty drastic effects on the human mind. After the 5th year kept in such a manner, he would be a gibbering_ lunatic" False , there are many Iraqi ex-prisoners who were in solitary confinement for longer and they were still lucid human beigns

@maxbuchanan9306 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan_Kanerva were they kept in solitary confinement in fuckin Medieval Europe, unable to interact with Anybody but the same goddamn Person, who also had No idea who they were? Even Iraqi war prisoners have more than One guard on rotation, are capable of talking to Each Other in some capacity, and have a touch Better accommodations than a cell Specifically Designed to prevent you from even Experiencing human contact Whatsoever, in a time and place that lacked running water.

@allisonasher8350 2 жыл бұрын

Man spent 20 mins on something only 64 like Lol

@silverhawkscape2677 3 жыл бұрын

When it comes to the storyteller Genre on KZfaq. 42 is one of the best of the Best!

@DyR4Ka 3 жыл бұрын

Also MrBallen

@thedevilhimself8521 3 жыл бұрын

Rob Gavagan is a mighty rival.

@dustbunnys 3 жыл бұрын

42 comes first!

@caidavid4378 3 жыл бұрын

No he is the best

@luridftwgaming8983 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect channel when I’m relaxing at night before bed

@luvprue1 3 жыл бұрын

I always found the fact that he wore a mask so no one would know who he is very interesting. It seem like there would be some records of who he was , and why he wore the mask. I like to believe that maybe he was the king's half brother/brother that the king didn't want anyone to know about.

@danMdan Ай бұрын

No evidence beyond gossipy rumors.

@luvprue1 Ай бұрын

@@danMdan Exactly. We have no evidence.

@hannahwebster5606 2 жыл бұрын

Apparently in this time period there was debate over which twin was oldest - The one who was born second was sometimes seen to have been conceived first. In this situation there could have been a lot of rivalry over who the true heir to the throne was.

@penitentone1732 2 жыл бұрын

Thats most likely the case. If time between them was short, younger one knew 100% he would just stay in his older brothers shadow for as long as older one is ruling. So “hiding” your older brother for the sake of you being the emperor is quite legit reason when it comes to royalty

@lindsey4178 10 ай бұрын

Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party. Lol. I would absolutely consider your suggestion but wouldnt that mean the parents hid the brother before the twin would ever have a chance to see him as a threat? Please keep in mind, I'm not versed in this whole story but I found your comment interesting.

@titusXpullo 3 жыл бұрын

"The Man in the Velvet Mask" would've actually been a cool title

@WobblesandBean 3 жыл бұрын

@aquadoze8932 2 жыл бұрын

The Man in the Velvet Veil. ;)

@aquadoze8932 2 жыл бұрын

Since we have no evidence of his profession, I’d go one further & refer to him as ‘The Velvet Veiled Vagrant’

@hufsa7197 Жыл бұрын

no it sounds gay

@britannicgeneral7460 3 жыл бұрын

"We live in an era"-Englishman with a good sense of moustache....wait a minute...

@exiletsj2570 3 жыл бұрын

That moustache needs to be on a register.

@britannicgeneral7460 3 жыл бұрын

@@exiletsj2570 A license for it perhaps?

@ThirstysURL 3 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine retraining your head hair even...these guys do that with the bit of hair on their top lip

@sumvs5992 3 жыл бұрын

This is truly a current era moment

@exiletsj2570 3 жыл бұрын

@@britannicgeneral7460 sorry, zero tolerance.

@theconservativefem4865 2 жыл бұрын

I hadn't heard the theory was that it was his real father. But I believe that has to be the answer. It sounds like a king thinking it was immoral to kill his father. I feel really comfortable with that answer. The others always seemed more outlandish. Like a twin, or identical person. A child out of Wed lock makes sense. The others don't because Louis could have just killed them.

@theoverunderthinker Жыл бұрын

I think there are a few stories of kings having killed their father to get the throne (or brother or husband for the son to get the throne). it might be the answer, but patricide is a term for a reason. 🤷‍♂

@danMdan Ай бұрын

Louis's real father - can't be, the dates are all wrong for this. Louis XIV was born on Sept. 5, 1638, while our prisoner died in the Bastille in Nov. 19, 1703, so if he had fathered Louis XIV at only 24 in 1638, our prisoner would have been around 89 on death. We know from existing records the prisoner himself said he thought he was about 60.

@cole5601 2 жыл бұрын

I recently discovered your channel and I'm learning so much interesting things. Thanks for keeping up the hard work!

@Jynxedlove 3 жыл бұрын

The velvet could have looked like iron in torchlight, especially with a quick glimpse.

@righty-o3585 3 жыл бұрын

And from a distance since nobody was allowed near him. I was thinking the same thing 😁🤘

@papachrist200 3 жыл бұрын

@@warpstar4282 that’s wild bro thanks for letting everyone know

@warpstar4282 3 жыл бұрын

@@papachrist200 😢 Jesus

@thejunioryoutuber1290 3 жыл бұрын

@@warpstar4282 just stop

@warpstar4282 3 жыл бұрын

@@thejunioryoutuber1290 no 😠 my war is never done i will join the u.s. military just so I can do thing

@TheEvertw 3 жыл бұрын

While a great mystery, the man in the Iron mask was more than likely a close relative to the King. There is no way he would have left anyone else with such a terrible secret as this man must have held, alive.

@schwingedeshaehers Жыл бұрын

But the prisoner or family had to have something, why he couldn't kill him that easily

@TheEvertw Жыл бұрын

@@schwingedeshaehers If the family knew something, they would also have been in prison / the grave. The grave will keep its silence for ever... People who believe that they have been appointed by God to rule regardless of what they do, don't usually care much for the lives of others. (BTW, that is why the MAGA movement is so scary & evil)

@gr3yfaerie 7 ай бұрын

I watched this video and then talked about this with my mum after university today - we discussed the gay theory, and how it draws interesting parallels to the film, but also it just makes sense. Honestly even though I’m doing a Bachelor’s in History and plan on getting my PhD, this guy has taught me more than my tutors have, and I’m more engaged in this type of content than with any of my previous history classes 😭

@nbHawkeye 2 жыл бұрын

I remember the first time I heard a similiar story was in Ducktales where Scrooge went to visit a good friend of him who was the king of some small country but as he got there he seemingly changed completely. As you learn in that episode the evil twin brother of said king threw the true monarch into jail covering his face with an iron mask.

@littlesongbird1 2 жыл бұрын

Off topic but man I loved the original ducktales

@davidkermes393 3 жыл бұрын

Never heard the theory that the Man in the Mask was Louis XIV's "natural" father. Kind of an attractive idea.

@Rhyno9750 3 жыл бұрын

So is the movie theory that it was a twin

@ROMEgreeneyes 3 жыл бұрын

They got the idea from the show Versailles that the man in the iron mask as the real father of king louis

@hemantrathore8581 3 жыл бұрын

Man You spoiled the video

@Hi-xu9xn 3 жыл бұрын

Repent of your sins and follow Jesus Christ Almighty.

@HellishSinner 3 жыл бұрын

I can confirm that It's very attractive. In fact I came twice to the idea.

@coreylong4855 3 жыл бұрын

"Why have vanilla ice cream when yoy can have mint choc chip?" And this, sir, is why you're one of thee best.

@neilfranklin5644 3 жыл бұрын

Raspberry ripple.

@vomik3 3 жыл бұрын

This made me cringe when he said it. I expect that from a valley girl that can't spell correctly and needs to abbreviate things. 🤣

@user-mx1ld1ou5z 2 жыл бұрын

Cringe 😬

@coolstarb. 2 жыл бұрын

now that's what l call a real question.

@DuckAllMighty 2 жыл бұрын

The poison story during Luis XIV's rule is also one the most interesting stories of the late medieval times. It basically started bc of a woman wanted her fathers money and blew out of proportions to span the entire French nobility and court in the late 17th with a lot of nobles killing each other. A lot of shit happened during the Sun Kings reign.

@DuckAllMighty 2 жыл бұрын

@Real Aiglon I know, I guess you call that time period the renaissance

@joemarandino8044 2 жыл бұрын

Such a fantastic you tube channel. Thanks for uploading these vids.

@vendettamedianl 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the Man in the Mask was the real Louis the 14th himself. Maybe an imposter sat on the throne.

@Razer5542 3 жыл бұрын

Just as in the movie.

@princessglittersparkle4146 3 жыл бұрын

Oh that is a great hypothesis.

@josehernandezmartinez8719 3 жыл бұрын

What a plot twist!

@Journey_Awaits 3 жыл бұрын

Louis XIV was not the imposter.....

@luvprue1 3 жыл бұрын

😊 I like the theory. That the only thing that would actually make sense for why the king would go through so much for one person, or that the man in his iron mask his real father.

@mexre2855 3 жыл бұрын

"Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Mask?" Isnt it Robert Downey?

@paulgoogol2652 3 жыл бұрын

Its no coincidence that Elon Musk and Iron Mask are so similar.

@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 3 жыл бұрын

Leonardo DiCaprio's twin

@boxeswithfoxes 3 жыл бұрын

@@paulgoogol2652 elon mask

@arinray5720 3 жыл бұрын

*THANK YOU* Was looking for an ironman joke

@jackdurden466 3 жыл бұрын

You guys realize that Robert Downey Jr. actually has masks that he has to wear when he goes out in public to avoid getting bombarded by either paparazzi or fans.

@jarehelt 3 жыл бұрын

Actually Pharoah Pepi II is the longest reigning ruler in history. He ruled for 94 years

@jobes4525 2 жыл бұрын

Not been a sub for long. But love your channel Thoughty 2. TY for your dedication. Great channel! X

@shadowman4315 3 жыл бұрын

Just in case you haven’t seen the classic.. it turned out it was Leonard Dicaprio..

@romeoreuben6601 3 жыл бұрын

@The fuckeroos he's the guy from Big Bang Theory

@SovietBear. 3 жыл бұрын

@@romeoreuben6601 No no he's he guy from shrek duh

@seeingyouaround 3 жыл бұрын

@The fuckeroos i think he painted all those paintings

@ducklingphallus 3 жыл бұрын

Idiot. His name is "Lion-O Dicaprio" and he's the leader of the Thundercats.

@lunar58071 3 жыл бұрын

Leon "Ardodi" Caprio, the 29th president of the United States, duh. Did you even graduate kindergarten?

@Darkhartx1 3 жыл бұрын

His name was Griffith, former leader of the (in)famous mercenary company, The Band of the Hawk.

@BanishedSilentShadow3318 3 жыл бұрын

It's rumor that he escaped by some mercenaries notable a man with a huge sword

@dontwurry2842 3 жыл бұрын

Lol... Great reference I remember watching this Anime 15+ years ago...The original 1998 version.

@stormruner9183 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and he misteriously dissapeared one day, with his whole group, during an Eclipse.

@dontwurry2842 3 жыл бұрын

@@stormruner9183 Its such a great, underrated, and deep anime worth the watch/read!

@stormruner9183 3 жыл бұрын

@@dontwurry2842 I agree 100%, Berserk is a masterpiece.

@thefisherking78 3 жыл бұрын

"an unknown penis of some description" is officially the funniest phrase I've heard all week, at a minimum 😂

@Bagio1221 3 жыл бұрын

RIF is back :D been years since i listened to one of your RIFs

@chrishall9892 3 жыл бұрын

Its crazy that whoever it was that they made it so water tight that we cant even slightly figure it out today. Whoever it was, he was very important.

@jessp9143 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine they had cell phone an cameras back then. Mystery solved

@paranoyd70 3 жыл бұрын

Given the fact that the prisoner was kept alive and many extra steps were taken to keep him hidden, then this highly suggests that the man in the mask was a relative of sorts. Anyone else would have been executed, but keeping them alive would only suggest a relative.

@patricktate4782 Жыл бұрын

@Real Aiglon dork

@KB_MT 2 жыл бұрын

"He is....Iron man" *Marvel theme song playing*

@whatanitemare 2 жыл бұрын

After just watching your vid on how our lack of attention spans are really the byproduct of big business using tricks like click bait, I find it interesting that you drew us in with the suggestion that the man in the iron mask had possibly been identified, just to have us find out in the end that nothing new has been determined. Don't know whether to laugh or sock you on the nose!

@danMdan Ай бұрын

Eustache Dauger it was.

@Vox193 3 жыл бұрын

Thoughty2 is literally everybody's favorite social studies teacher

@lyn2335 3 жыл бұрын

@My names Jeff Yes.

@mynameisyumyumgivemesum1412 3 жыл бұрын

@My names Jeff ummm , the PC term would be "academically Unchallenged " sir. 🤗

@samuraiboi2735 3 жыл бұрын

Yes we live in a era where a handosme young man thoughty2 with a fabulous moustache talks about amazing stuff

@samuraiboi2735 3 жыл бұрын

@@mynameisyumyumgivemesum1412 lmao your comment too bri ish

@mynameisyumyumgivemesum1412 3 жыл бұрын

@@samuraiboi2735 🤗 I get a clever one in here and there

@zwippie92 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly thought the Man in the Iron Mask was a fictional character from an old novel. Well, if Voltaire added or his mates in that 1 star hotel added it I guess it is technically fictional. I've always thought the iron mask was a bit too much but it does make for excellent story telling.

@Winta_og 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@duckgaming7518 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@bruhman530 3 жыл бұрын

How is this 3 hours old when the video is just a couple minutes

@_i_am_unceded 3 жыл бұрын

..and New Grand Marshal of the Comments is🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 👳🧕Zwippie Doo the 92nd🧕👳 ⭐⭐HONOR AND RESPECT⭐⭐

@michaelkarlin3727 3 жыл бұрын

You were first

@oliversherman2414 2 жыл бұрын

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

@colorado841 2 жыл бұрын

This is why you never ask a Monarch about the extended warranty on his horse cart.

@cuff2860 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely one of your most interesting videos. I know the movie in ‘98 was fictional, but it’s absolutely one of my most favorite films from that decade.

@psychedelicpayroll5412 3 жыл бұрын

I’m actually planning on watching it and maybe reading the book series.

@mnassif3809 2 жыл бұрын

@jessp9143 2 жыл бұрын

@@mnassif3809 warning takes way longer than minute ;)

@flamencoprof 3 жыл бұрын

To me, the biggest question is why, as was said, a king didn't just make him dead. Although I wasn't alive at the time, I am told this was done on a routine basis, both publicly and privately. Therefore, examination of that king's personality and beliefs which may have discouraged execution would be the most productive area of research.

@LenaFerrari 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for clarifying you weren't alive at the time, or I would have assumed otherwise

@flamencoprof 2 жыл бұрын

@@LenaFerrari I'm dead now.

@LenaFerrari 2 жыл бұрын

@@flamencoprof well, obviously...

@amberrehl5716 Жыл бұрын

You have one of the best channels on KZfaq. I'm obsessed with your content.

@kvelez 3 жыл бұрын

12:20 "Why have vanilla ice cream?" -Arran Lomas

@clintballard521 3 жыл бұрын

I straight up wanna smoke a joint and watch documentaries with this guy.

@jer_ryb_ 3 жыл бұрын

Sadly you have no life and you NEED a job

@SovietBear. 3 жыл бұрын

@@jer_ryb_ says the guy with the fitting name "King Maddog" If ya got nothing nice to saymate Dont say it

@jackagnell4781 3 жыл бұрын

@@jer_ryb_ and where did you get all of that from?

@oddity8611 3 жыл бұрын

@@jer_ryb_ you need to smoke a doobie bro

@paulgoogol2652 3 жыл бұрын

Or you could get clean and get your shit together.

@KonJonnorMusic 3 жыл бұрын

"The Man in the Luxurious Velvet Face Covering" 😂 that NEEDS to be an album title

@rosemaryfranzese317 Жыл бұрын

This is a great video. I love the theory about the mysterious prisoner being Louis’s real father. One thing is certain, if this mystery was ever truly solved people would soon likely lose interest. Imagine if it could be totally proved that Jack the Ripper was really a mentally ill and obscure person and not actually a member of the royal family, a famous art or an eminent surgeon, how many book deals would there be? Many people prefer the fantasy rather than the facts

@moodycrab77 3 жыл бұрын

Bought your book, subscribe to your podcast. Much vibs good.

@jerry3790 3 жыл бұрын

The instructions for storing the man remind me of the SCP foundation

@Davidvanzutphen 2 жыл бұрын

the SCP foundation reminds me of The bureau of Control...

@cCiIcCo 3 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail...Finally we know what Thaughty2 is into...

@PeteSavage-lg9fh 2 жыл бұрын

You are a great source of entertainment. One of the top 5 one my list

@dominicsidaway1930 2 жыл бұрын

Prisoner: and he had a black velvet mask on… Voltaire: no, no that’s not cool enough… how about iron? An iron mask? Yeah that’s good Prisoner: no I’m telling you, he had a velve- Voltaire: Henry, please, that simply isn’t cool enough for the epic story I’m coming up with in my head

@MartyWoodcock 3 жыл бұрын

If we knew the grave location, DNA could be a huge help in identifying the man in the luxurious velvet facial covering.

@thecryptofishist9565 2 жыл бұрын

Well, if he died in the Bastille, he might have been buried there. And if his grave location in their graveyard was ever noted, that could easily have been lost, perhaps before 1789, very easily afterwards. He could be as lost as Mozart.

@danMdan Ай бұрын

All old Paris graves were dug up and the bones can be seen on an underground visit to the catacombs.

@robertcurtis3815 3 жыл бұрын

I've done it.... I've bought your book. Standard normal version. Well done Dude. It had better be an easier read than the theory of everything! X

@dennismayfield8846 3 жыл бұрын

BRAVO,Sir!!! Author-Author!! Presenter-Presenter!!

@joedredd1168 Жыл бұрын

1:53 My mother was in an art class in her college days in Bristol. Within that classroom she worked alongside a chap there who was really good at Street art specifically. That chaps name was Steve Banks. Makes you think.

@jonathanmoody8757 3 жыл бұрын

"Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Mask?" - Original Title Edit: Just to be clear, I understand why Arron changes the titles (YT algorithm). I'm not complaining that the title's change, I just like writing the original title in the comments so we all know what it was. BTW, I love your videos Thoughty2.

@beoffjesos8503 3 жыл бұрын

Begone demon, how darest thou say such vile things amongst us true listeners

@Yarsito 3 жыл бұрын

@@beoffjesos8503 amogus 😳😳😳

@temmywemmy8544 3 жыл бұрын

@@beoffjesos8503 among us?!?!? 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

@tyhensley7076 3 жыл бұрын

Still the title, so iv'e no idea what you're talking about

@sund4169 3 жыл бұрын

@@beoffjesos8503 yoo amigo us!!

@croke835 3 жыл бұрын

Do we know who it is? No Do we know Thoughty2 likes mint chocolate chip ice cream? Yes and that’s what’s important

@cherlindreaaurora4075 2 жыл бұрын

13:15 If you are quit you can hear a laughter directed from Windsor Castle

@jjr1728 2 жыл бұрын

This has been suggested for a while. You know what I hate? Popular youtubers that use clickbait titles and steal other peoples work with a lot less information yet pawn it off as their own idea.

@felineboat2799 3 жыл бұрын

I’m literally eating mint chocolate chip ice-cream as he mentioned it

@kaimikalaniYT 3 жыл бұрын

“Do we finally know the identity of the man in the iron mask?” I wonder what the next title and thumbnail will be

@DarkWorldOrder 3 жыл бұрын

Only early people will know 😂🤣

@andromadus 3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkWorldOrder yea

@K_ingh16 3 жыл бұрын

It's still the same, shocking

@cs2874 3 жыл бұрын

It seems he has a peculiar habit of often changing the titles of his videos within few minutes of upload.

@krzysztofpl5871 3 жыл бұрын

@@cs2874 ...why does this bother some people so much?! i don't get it..

@Oscarspoem 2 жыл бұрын

Once I was struggling in life and I didn't speak to a fellow human in nearly two weeks. Twenty nine years seems incredibly cruel to do that to a person and the King must have had a heart of stone.

@sizwe.amabaso732 3 жыл бұрын

"We finally know the identity of iron man" Original title

@kvelez 3 жыл бұрын

Why do people type in the comment section the original title, is it a game that you play with the subscribers and Arran, or is it just for no reason at all. I haven't been subscribed for so long so you understand.

@sizwe.amabaso732 3 жыл бұрын

@@kvelez its a stupid meaningless game just like life

@kvelez 3 жыл бұрын

@@sizwe.amabaso732 Life's not stupid.

@Furendz 2 жыл бұрын

@@kvelez thoughty2 is notorious for changing video titles and thumbnails. So people start writing what title they see atm.

@GamingWithSpoons 3 жыл бұрын

I've always found this a very intriguing story and watched many documentaries on it, but this is the first I've ever heard he didn't actually where an iron mask. Interesting

@Fenrir72 3 жыл бұрын

Jack Palance's Ripley's Believe it or Not portrayed the same non iron mask mythos.

@franktaylor7617 2 жыл бұрын

😎👍 Always fascinating. This channel is such a good break from all the stress of today's world.

@rosefulmadness 2 жыл бұрын

6:36 the number 1717 means " you have an essential life and soul mission to complete", do what you may with this information

@laurahernamdt896 3 жыл бұрын

Recently found your channel. Love it

@drmadjdsadjadi 3 жыл бұрын

The Great Ice Cream Cone in the Sky appreciates the nod that mint chocolate chip ice cream is the best ice cream in the world.

@mnassif3809 2 жыл бұрын

@drmadjdsadjadi 2 жыл бұрын

@@mnassif3809 who said I don’t believe in god? Please go bother others.

@shinoshiny 10 ай бұрын

When I saw the title, i thought ' wait wasn't the masked magician's identity revealed already?'

@sofaking8754 2 жыл бұрын

I've never heard the term Chinese whispers, in America it's simply called playing telephone.... Chinese whispers is way better I couldn't stop laughing Thank you thoughty2 for expanding my brain 🤯

@Tat2dGothic 3 жыл бұрын

I've always liked the theory that he was actually Louis XIV and Philippe's bio dad. If you look at all the evidence it makes the most sense but this is one of those things we might never know.

@danMdan Ай бұрын

if so he would have been nearly 90 when died in the Bastille. The prisoner himself gave his age when in the Bastille as about 60, so impossible.

@iHaveTheDocuments 3 жыл бұрын

"Do we finally know the identity of the man in the iron mask" Original video title

@thatguy5779 3 жыл бұрын

As I’m watching it the original title is still up, what is it nowH

@beoffjesos8503 3 жыл бұрын

BEGONE BLASPHEMOUS HERETIC

@MrVexedviper 3 жыл бұрын

But has the thumbnail changed yet???

@pamelamurphy5067 3 жыл бұрын

It hasn't changed yet

@enki647 3 жыл бұрын

Your pfp gave me flashbacks

@PlatinumStrikes 2 жыл бұрын

Now that’s a real mustache. Instant subscribe.

@scallywag4978 3 жыл бұрын

Serious question: Was the alleged entry found by rioters at the Bastille “Prisoner # 64389000, The Man in the Iron Mask” simply made up by someone and not really found at all? If there’s any validity to this claim, then apparently there was someone in an iron mask. I know it’s mentioned on the movie, but according to some writings it did exist. Sincerely curious.

@danMdan Ай бұрын

Yes, fiction to support and justify the riot. The Bastille was never full of prisoners.

@acommenter4300 3 жыл бұрын

Who is the Man in the Iron Mask? Why, Tony Stark, of course

@ricesandarling594 2 жыл бұрын

i was gonna say that lol-

@_barncat 3 жыл бұрын

Daaamn you're born to royalty and this is the treatment you get

@domhealy9816 Жыл бұрын

Never thought I could listen so intently to shit I already know. Love the way you tell stories . Thanks matey

@sagethegreat4680 Жыл бұрын

You want to know what's behind a mask . You need to hire Scooby-Doo.

@wendywhite4537 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the history lesson. I had never heard this story in its entirety. Love your videos.

@laurenpiantino8312 2 жыл бұрын

And you haven't now, Wendy! The man in the velvet mask may have been in prison for 30 years, but he was treated like royalty, or at least an aristocrat. He had a luxury jail cell, was given reading materials and other luxuries of the time. Our narrator creator of the video, somehow, forgot to mention those important details. :)

@wendywhite4537 2 жыл бұрын

@@laurenpiantino8312 Thank You

@plosslaw 3 жыл бұрын

I can't be the only one who read the title as "Do We Finally Know the Identity of the Man in the Iron Man?"

@thinlineofsanity1035 3 жыл бұрын

Thats what mine still has for the title 🤷🏼‍♀️

@SovietBear. 3 жыл бұрын

Same here I was kinda confused

@WobblesandBean 3 жыл бұрын

That WAS the title. He edited it cuz it was too clickbaity

@danMdan Ай бұрын

yes we know - Eustache Dauger

@bruceli4278 2 жыл бұрын

"Why have vanilla ice cream when you can have mint choc chip!" Quote by Thoughty 2 - 2021

@cptkman 2 жыл бұрын

2:47 “dumas” first thing I thought of was Gotham xD

@Austin_Wingfield 3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping the video was only 5 seconds with him saying No

@jackdurden466 3 жыл бұрын

There’s got to be one damn good reason why he was kept alive. I cannot think of any, and yet keep him locked up, face covered, and silent. It’s a truly strange story.