Threading a THIN Sporter Barrel for a Suppressor (30-06 Example)
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That barrel is too thin to thread! I've heard that said multiple times, and I've even said it myself. So what do you do when you want to put a suppressor on your sporter rifle, and don't have enough "meat" on your barrel? I'll cover that in this story!
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@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
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@NoneNone_ 2 ай бұрын
I went to the website and left a message I need a customer adapter made 🙏
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to everyone joining in for the Premier!
@guyminer3168 2 жыл бұрын
My good ol' 30-06 just got another enhancement. Wonderful!
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Fun project!
@jeff9062 2 жыл бұрын
Can't leave anything at that guy's house...🤨😂
@kriswhitman8027 2 жыл бұрын
That is a great trick to get a suppressor on a sporter weight barrel. I would not have thought of that! Great job!
@johnnybarbar7435 2 жыл бұрын
Gavin, Excellent smithing work! I'm jealous of your lathe. Mine runs 70 rpm minimum so, at my age and reaction time, I now thread left to right so I have no worries about crashing into the shoulder. It's a great technique that makes threading 100% stress free.
@kevinwood7358 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the adaptation applied to the barrel to give the suppressor or a break a good shoulder yo tighten against. I don't know if I would have thought of that fix. Great video.
@jakethimsen7879 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for videos on this last week to see if ppl could do it, then u popped into my feed just now. Great content! Subscribed
@scottroberts5554 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a mod 70. Featherweight in 25.06 and thought I was SOL with it ever being suppressed, but you gave me hope! Great idea.
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Good deal.
@BMH-s9u 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for solving my problem, great idea with the nut!
@clintreichenberger5841 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I was just looking into this for my 22-250! Great video. I will have to take the idea to my gunsmith.
@leyderness3553 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great edition!
@jeffreylocke8808 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Gavin. Your work is truly excellent.
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeffrey!
@DanielBoone337 2 жыл бұрын
This was extremely interesting for sure... I'd buy the Dead Air Nomad TI nice and lightweight with great sound suppression. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
@tomdegisi 2 жыл бұрын
Looks fantastic!
@coyotiess 11 ай бұрын
Nice job. Well done!
@CHenry1951 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sweet, that may be my next venture on a thin profile barrel ............................... thanks for sharing !!
@wadelandeche8632 2 жыл бұрын
Great machine work and install!
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wade!
@robnowe5464 7 ай бұрын
Great video. I really enjoy watching you two interact. I have a .30-06 and thought I couldn't get it threaded so this may have changed that for me. Thanks! Would really lie to see more on the .30-06 and some analysis for the best inexpensive rifles say under $700?
@johnhumphries4632 2 ай бұрын
Awesome build 👍
@Ultimatereloader 2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@brianbelliveau5551 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done ✅
@mr.2d749 2 жыл бұрын
So very impressed!
@jeremykrammes1580 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice. I want to do my M700 Mountain Rifle. I may give this a try. I need to build a spider for my lathe too... I would recommend Deadair Nomad Ti for a hunting rifle.
@geckoproductions4128 9 ай бұрын
Interesting tip, Gavin. I'll try it. I've turned down quite a few jobs like this because they were too skinny. Thanks
@michaelwhite9199 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! I was told this wasn’t possible.
@LastCaress7 2 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration!
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bptormen 2 жыл бұрын
Dead Air Nomad Ti would be the perfect hunting can. Very light and great sound attenuation.
@kfranklin308 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s fantastic work!
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin!
@GOM7273 2 жыл бұрын
very nicely done
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ralph!
@AlomaWilkerson-vd4us 10 ай бұрын
That’s amazing you learned all your skills from sdi. I figured it would be difficult never touching a machine while learning gunsmithing.
@DuaneLeopard 2 ай бұрын
It's funny. Shortly after watching this video, I had a costumer call me about mounting a suppressor on his 30-06 sporter. I told him what I could do for him. It turned out great and he was happy and could not wait to try it out. Trust me, he is a rather particular client, too. Thanks for the idea. Thanks for tips. Being kind of new to this, I am always looking for other cool things to do for my customers.
@Ultimatereloader 2 ай бұрын
That is great! Glad you were able to solve your customer's problem!
@RatelLaw 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@davidirwin8601 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@pardalbartz Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I am planning to do to my "toy" 22LR. much easier in my case as the barrel seems to be parallel (hopefully with the "hole" in the center) and there is enough "meat" do turn a shoulder straight on. But in case I need a bigger diameter shoulder, will copy your idea!
@axmnstrbnd Жыл бұрын
So thankful I found this!! Also subbed! I have a remmy 30.06 that has the tapered barrel, and had some previous Smith work done to the barrel end.. ported and crowned. I've always wondered if threads could be cut back behind the porting, and basically turning that portion of the barrel into a fixed brake so to speak.
@garrytalley8009 Жыл бұрын
Not such a good idea. If that ported job is a good one leave it be. Buy another rifle that's threaded. You would be further ahead selling what you have or trading it in for threaded if you want it. Crazy idea. But hey there are people threading barrels by hand what am I to say any idea is crazy. It's just crazy to me. I like another excuse to buy another rifle.
@terrellstandefer6646 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought about this nor did my buddy that did some barrel threading on some win feather weights and other light hunting guns. I just laughed every time I needed a break put on and he just said f$%k it's a pain in the ass. This is a great solution!
@lanceschul 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Banish30 in ATF hell. I built a sporter 280AI and had them thread my barrel so I can use a 1/2x28 to 5/8x24 adapter.
@Jmastffp 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a very smart approach you have there. I’ve run into this issue a lot in my shop. Think I’m going to adopt your practice. By the way. Have a tooling question. If you had the choice would you pick a multifix style or Aloris style tool post? And why? Thanks Mr. Gavin!
@K-bob_45 2 жыл бұрын
Now I just need to find a place to do mine like this
@rickysmith2248 Жыл бұрын
I got to have that done on my sport rifle that's awesome
@johnbarnwell400 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive
@rns_outdoors 8 ай бұрын
Was thinking I would have to pin and weld a muzzle break for suppressor use. Much better idea 🤙🏼
@Bojangles6 2 жыл бұрын
When you started cutting those threads i thought you had the cutter at the completely wrong angle, then i saw that they have that tooth. Im not familiar with those but they look handy!
@samuelberryhill2804 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video yall very interesting for sure never seen it done that way.as far as surpressures go i like the dead air sand man which is what im looking at getting.thank you for the video and keep up the good work God bless
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Samuel!
@samuelberryhill2804 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ultimatereloader your welcome
@KTBHDH 4 ай бұрын
I need to get this done
@Ultimatereloader 4 ай бұрын
We can do it! Rifles.ultimatereloader.com !
@joelmitchell5149 Жыл бұрын
I am really interested in a write of the process if you have it. Also was hopeful that you would have a POA comparison.
@tobiastorsi 2 жыл бұрын
I would have suggested a M15x1 Thread that is 12mm (about 1/2”) long. Also I would use an overbarrel suppressor to get the center of gravity further back. Barrel would be thick enough and suppressors are availiable in that threat.
@cornbreadburgess1950 2 жыл бұрын
Gavin you did a great job man,Guy looked a little nervous but I would have been a little to ,that is his baby Lol, great job and video Enjoyed it brother see you on the next one.
@guyminer3168 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! I was a little nervous!
@mattdrake9214 2 жыл бұрын
Could you have used Rocksett for your “permanent” setting of the spacer? That way if you ever needed to take it off it would be an easy hot water soak.
@andrewslovensky 7 ай бұрын
I really want this done to my Ruger M77 Marck2 30-06. I want to put a muzzle brake on it. Great video 👍
@colenielsen5112 Ай бұрын
Awesome video! Is it safe to thread a 30cal barrel 1/2x28 if the barrel doesn’t have enough meat for 5/8? Thanks!
@LL-pd9dg 2 жыл бұрын
Gavin, with the thin barrel profile, it would be interesting to see if the POI shift is caused barrel droop due to the weight of the suppressor. You could clamp the action in a mill vice and use a dial indicator on the muzzle end of the barrel to examine the position with and without the suppressor.
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, there would be some, and I like the fixed approach for testing!
@ScreamingReels4365 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same rifle and caliber. My gunsmith threaded it down to 9/16x24.
@michaelbyrd499 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting to see some 6.5-06 content, using the Hornady 153gn A-Tip. I wish someone made a 160gn ELD bullet.. Do you have any plans for that? It would be nice to hear back from you.
@robertdidion2525 2 жыл бұрын
A Thunderbeast Ultra 7 would be perfect on that rifle!
@richmiles7506 Жыл бұрын
I think your solution was very innovative but would have preferred a more gradual taper to the shoulder but all in all you do very good work. Cant wait to see the results of the most used silencer for hunting from your viewers.
@alkalk8938 Жыл бұрын
Nifty idea, I dont think cold blue is worth a crap though, rusts faster than a dodge in my experience. I would probably lean towards a stainless ring and just live with the 2-tone barrel end.
@hpfuhl Жыл бұрын
Would this work for a situation where the suppressor requires a muzzle device? For instance a suppressor that uses a taper or dual taper locking system where a flash hider, compensator, or brake is threaded to the shoulder and shimmed if necessary for timing. I'm only asking because I've got a .270 Win Savage Model 111 with a side magazine release and sporter barrel.
@garrettguillot8743 8 ай бұрын
On a 25-06 thin sporter barrel do you recommend the same process or can you go 5/8x24 and have a proper shoulder?
@spiroaggelis5530 Жыл бұрын
I have done this for years but I no longer thread long I just lengthen the tennon and use loctite 609 to secure a pre-made spacer that is then blended and profiled.
@kassilewis5511 Жыл бұрын
Just did one exactly like that about a week ago. I didn't see the need to remove any more material than I had to by cutting threads and a thread relief way down the barrel.
@dpereira1857 Жыл бұрын
I have an Elite iron for my 375. Like this situation however, it is also a sporter barrel and thus not enough shoulder to support for this suppressor (5/8 × 24). With a larger bore, would this method still work? I purchases the suppressor from Silencer Central and supposedly they will thread the rifle for $100 as part of the purchase. Thanks in advance for any advice.
@KyleMehrer 2 жыл бұрын
@gavintoobe I just had a hunting rifle threaded where they said it was not thick enough for 5/8 so they said could do 1/2 I call the suppressor manufacturer they did seem worried about this point to a bushing to use. can you provide some insight into why this way would be better I have a few more to do and i was thinking of not threading them since could not do the 5/8 but this might be a good way to it
@Hammam-Alharith 8 ай бұрын
from your experience can 13x1 fit on 1/2-28 thread?
@drew55974 2 жыл бұрын
For the money the yhm r2 30 Cal is a really good can
@1187gar 2 жыл бұрын
Silencer Co, Harvester 300
@108basic Жыл бұрын
What are you hunting for in Africa and what load (bullet & weight) are you using?
@ja0298 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully guy chooses a light weight can. The OCL hydrogen or thunder beast ultra would be good a good match. OCL has my vote.
@josephsoltes1250 4 ай бұрын
Hi Gavin excellent video just like always.I need your technical help , I got Steyr Mannlicher Pro hunter rifle in caliber 30-06 and I measured end of my barrel with caliber and is .57” so on your video it can be done but I’m in Canada what should I do next
@greatodinsraven 2 ай бұрын
Try a 1/2-28 thread and muzzle device. You can also use an adapter to go to 5/8-24.
@stevepennell1 8 ай бұрын
Where did you go to gunsmithing school?
@qb7384 Жыл бұрын
Do you offer this service still?
@riaanwilliams8529 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin and Guy. My 30-06, 260rem, 6.5PRC, 223rem, 22mag all have Nielson sonic 45 silencer/suppressors. I do not use a silencer on my 375h&h just love the way
@riaanwilliams8529 2 жыл бұрын
I do not use a silencer on my 375h&h I just love the original look of the winchester rifle. All my rifles have sporter barrels except my 223rem which has a heavy barrel
@christopherbooras3485 2 жыл бұрын
Since when do you use loktite on barrel threads?
@johns2590 2 жыл бұрын
I am a 28 year USMC & Army Vet (send me the jokes later). I just started hunting last year and I am using my Dad's old 1969 model year, Remington 700 .300 Win Mag Stainless Steel. I put a scope on it, it only has maybe 200 rounds thru it in it's life. I have my first suppressor, an Omega 300. SilencerCo uses a system for quick connect/disconnect by putting their ASR/brake on permanently and then the suppressor is quick on and off as needed. SilencerCo has a 9/16" threaded ASR that I would like to mount to the .300 Win Mag so I can use the suppressor sometimes. Some people have told me that might be too thin with all the pressures from a suppressor. What is your opinion? Will there be enough of a shoulder to mount securely and be safe with a suppressor?
@Spruce-Bug 10 ай бұрын
That's a sweet rifle. Have you ever cut higbee threads for muzzle devices?
@Ultimatereloader 10 ай бұрын
The way we do muzzle threading (angled start, with non-threaded step for centering) it's not needed. Thanks for watching!
@Leethal1 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Gavin 👍 How much for the Sporter threading on a Weatherby mkV?
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Send me some specifics! rifles.ultimatereloader.com - see “waitlist”
@pjbarney9580 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Does it shoot differently POI even without the suppressor as it did before the barrel end work?
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure Guy shot it after the job without a brake or can on it!
@galamonkey 2 жыл бұрын
It’s incredible how quiet a bolt action rifle with a can is. Even a full power 300 Win Mag shooting some of Uncle Joe’s Pissin’ Hot Barn Burner Handloads™️ with a van is totally hearing safe.
@kenmcvie7388 2 жыл бұрын
My 7x61 S&H needs this, but since I'm in New Zealand it's a bit far to send it.
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad we're not closer to each other!
@rom14141 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious if I understood correctly, you went by feel for the threading and not a thread mic or thread wires?
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Correct- however I use the "over wires" method if I don't have a good gauge (in this case a known-good thread protector).
@Dennis0411 7 ай бұрын
When removing a barrel to thread it like this do you have to check headspace when reinstalling since it’s the same barrel?
@straycat62 3 ай бұрын
I don't think he removed the receiver or action from the barrel. He said his lathe was large enough to fit if trigger was off.
@nicolascreech6367 4 ай бұрын
Does the barrel need to keep all that length for accuracy? Its overly long with the suppressor installed. Maybe take 4-6” off the barrel, depending on length and legalities of course….
@robertneal4112 6 ай бұрын
I am looking to have the barrel threaded on a Winchester Super grade 30-06. Unfortunately the diameter at the end of the barrel is 0.5995”, which can’t be threaded to 5/8-24. What is the right way to tackle this? Is it better to go with smaller threads or some sort of adapter? My end goal is to be able to use my Dead Air Nomad 30 can. The default thread adapter is 5/8-24 but they do sell replacement adapters in various sizes.
@straycat62 3 ай бұрын
Same question
@SimpleLife1971 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin, many gunsmiths unscrew the barrel from the action in order to mount it in the lathe. The does make sense but what if the barrel is pressed into the action? I have a Steyr SSG P2 which I bought new and I'd like to thread the end of the barrel to mount a muzzle brake. Can the bare action and barrel still be mounted in the chuck properly for the threading process?
@floridagunrat1625 10 ай бұрын
Yep, there are multiple ways to set up a barreled action when you're unable to disassemble it. Typically, it is done between centers with an action mandrel, or it is set up with a steady rest. Any competent machinist or real gunsmith with a suitable lathe and tooling setup can do this.
@Lethal_Intent 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting here in the uk probably about 95% of sporters are threaded and moderated and I've never seen one with a added thicker shoulder. Some have spigots. Usual thread is 15x1, 14x1 or 1/2 unf / unef. But most are now over barrel so a bigger shoulder would probably hinder that.
@ScreamingReels4365 2 жыл бұрын
I used 9/16x24RH on mine, ~14.3mm.
@Nightmarehc130 2 жыл бұрын
that thing looks ungodly long...what is the total length?
@scottmilburn9461 2 жыл бұрын
Did you thread that with left hand threads? Was just wondering from you working the Channel Locks on the thread protecter.
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Regular right-hand!
@scottmilburn9461 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ultimatereloader OK thanks,really like what you guys do.
@beeryriamid6678 Жыл бұрын
Every bolt up hand and plumber was sweating watching that. At least I was.
@dewaynewhitney5703 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about doing that same thing to my 308, but no one around here does any kind of gunsmithing. All the one's who I did know are all passed away.
@brianbain2229 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, would it also have been possible to cut the barrel down and thread it with 1/2x28 threads and use an 1/2x28 to 5/8x24 adapter
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to cut the barrel down that thin with respect to bore diameter!
@jmkhenka 2 жыл бұрын
Europeans use a M14x1 thread mostly. 5/8-24 is more aking to M15 wich is not as common. But thread size is secondary to the look of the threading in relation to barrel diameter. No-one wants a M14 thread on a thick varmint barrel. My cz 457 MTR has a 1/2-20 thread and it looks stupid.
@KingLoopie1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job and a nice result! 👍 I don't own a can so I have no idea which he should buy, but he might want to buy it there due to wait periods here... My sako 30-06 has a slim, bare barrel. I think I'll leave it that way.
@Nightmarehc130 2 жыл бұрын
why not just thread it 3/4 or 5/8th and then use a jam nut?
@ajbuschm 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video where you thread a .30-06 muzzle to 1/2x28 and see if a muzzle brake blows off or not.
@Lethal_Intent 2 жыл бұрын
It won't here in the UK almost all our hunting rifles are threaded and suppressed and many have used that thread.
@briankoenig8923 2 жыл бұрын
I'm running the Dead Air Sandman S with their QD mounts. I'm afraid that the extra mass of the QD Brake along with the added thread protector would be too much for your application. That sporter barrel might get whippy.
@gregorholmes1837 11 ай бұрын
Lock tight melts w heat. Why not use rock tight?
@nemsisbusa 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work but I can’t believe you didn’t give it a fresh crown while you had it in the lathe 😱
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
That was Guy's call :) :)
@jonathanrogers9961 2 жыл бұрын
Why lock tite? Is it not removed with heat? Rocksett is a better option. High temp rated, can only be removed by a soak in very hot water.
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Red locktite is pretty good with heat- I’m not even sure it’s needed in this case with it tightened down like that.
@MMBRM 2 жыл бұрын
Red locktite will only degrade at over 360f so there's little to no danger that the barrel is going to get that hot unless you've got a torch on it.
@nathanscheel4112 2 жыл бұрын
What threading tool is that?
@Ultimatereloader 2 жыл бұрын
Carmex! As Gordy Gritters recommended. :)
@francois8069 2 жыл бұрын
Just use a smaller thread supressor. All this is not needed at all. 9/16 or even 1/2x20 will work just fine. Here in NZ most sporters are M14 or 9/16 even the very skinny howa lightweight barrel has a 1/2 x20 thread from factory here. If you really want to use a big thread supressor then just make an adapter bushing
@jock465 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was scratching my head a bit on this one, maybe suppressors are only available in the US with that thread. Seemed like a huge amount of extra work that wasn’t needed
@mrgabriale 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you guys go with an over barrel suppressor?
@jarredlkling 2 жыл бұрын
It's going to Africa, I think the cans it will be used for is already at the hunting lodge. Also it's alot harder to form 1 a can now so it's not as easy as it was to make a over barrel can
@dhbikerczar 2 жыл бұрын
Tbac.
@ronaldroehrick4872 2 жыл бұрын
Do the suppressors lower your fps?
@floridagunrat1625 10 ай бұрын
Short answer, no.
@MrMrsregor 7 ай бұрын
no, but they not as effective if you are not using subsonic ammo
@pacman10182 2 жыл бұрын
cold blue will not help with corrosion