2023 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail VS. Lowrider ST

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Жыл бұрын

In this video I compare the 2023 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail and the 2023 Harley Davidson Lowrider ST. I have been asked to do this for a long time but didn't realize until I did it, just how close these two bikes are.
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@JA-zh5xi Жыл бұрын

I know this won’t be a popular opinion, but I’d rather have the heritage Softail. More comfortable on longer rides and the engine performance isn’t that different. If I want fast I’ll add a slammed, stretched and turbo’d busa and actually have a fast bike. Haha

@glockster19 Жыл бұрын

Holy smokes on the msrp! If u strongly disagree with msrp, let's all agree to not purchase these bikes.

@throttleblip9854 Жыл бұрын

I don't think you're a lone. A lot of Heritage fans out there.

@JA-zh5xi Жыл бұрын

@@glockster19 sure I wish they were cheaper, but when you look at other bikes within their class they’re not priced that differently. Plus - purchase price is only half the equation. Haley’s hold their value far better than any of their competitors.

@BikesNThings Жыл бұрын

@@glockster19 I'll buy a used bike that's 6 months old with 300 miles from a private individual over a brand new bike at a dealer any day of the week. I've worked at a harley dealer before and they're just as slimey as you'd think. They're worse even. They've lost their minds in Milwaukee and I'll let my wallet do the talking. I hope we all do this, because they've crossed the line. At the rate they're going they're going to end up like Budweiser. Surprised they don't have trannys in their ads. Probably gonna happen soon tho lol

@jh6839 9 ай бұрын

Traded my 21 low rider s for 23 heritage 114 couldn't be happier

@naturalforlife6741 Жыл бұрын

I went with the 2022 Heritage a couple of months ago. It is a beautiful and responsive bike, in every way. Being 69, this is my forever bike that can do some light touring and around town cruising. I'm happy. I've own every kind of Harley there is and a lot of Japanese bikes and this bike impressed me to no end. I also own a 2018 Iron 1200, and an MT07 for a little carving work. I also own a Triumph hard tail chopper that I built 35 years ago. I've been around motorcycles my whole life and wont die without one.

@jayteesgear Жыл бұрын

Heritage and the Iron 1200 are two of my fave bikes!

@saddle8bag Жыл бұрын

Heritage wins by a mile except for being 2.3 ms slower in a drag race and holding one hotdog less in the saddlebags. And best of all, it has contrast so it can be seen as something other than a black blob from across the street. Extra luggage capacity can easily and cheaply be added to the Heritage. Passenger needs a backrest anyway. Just add the luggage rack and you can take an extra suitcase full of stuff if you need it. I have one from HD that has wheels and a handle too. Slides/secures right over the passenger backrest. Comes with rain cover too. Brilliant!

@roadkinglobo 9 ай бұрын

I was waiting for a ST for weeks and could not locate one that wasn’t spoken for. One day I sat on a 23 Heritage in the showroom and that was it. I stepped down from riding a RKS because I wanted something a little lighter and more agile. This was it! Great video by the way. 👏🏼

@joemorales3471 Жыл бұрын

I May be old fashioned 🤔 So I'll go With The Heritage , Just One Beautiful Bike , Love All that Chrome on It 😎👍

@throttleblip9854 Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with that!

@chopdog Жыл бұрын

Heritage for me. I prefer the style and I definitely like the floorboards for those longer trips.

@josephgoias2945 Жыл бұрын

And this is exactly why you should have more than one bike in the garage. Great video.

@Rafsan1983 Жыл бұрын

🎉As I said before, I am old school rock n roll man 39 years old and I love classic look and chrome - Heritage🙂 🎉Imagine Low Rider ST with chrome - will be cool🙂

@charleycavanaugh5414 Жыл бұрын

I am Old School And 64 years old ,And I would go for the Heritage Softail . That's just my personal feeling . I had a 1975 Harley Davidson FXE back then They called it the ( Freight Train ) And it was my first Harley And I loved it . Thanks for the Video Man .

@michaelschaefer3124 11 ай бұрын

Two different bikes for two different customers. I would have to say though that if you’re looking for a very comfortable ride and a great sitting position, you can’t go wrong with the heritage.

@roybrazeau3486 9 ай бұрын

I just bought a 2023 Anniversary Heritage (Heirloom Red Fade) she’s a beauty. Having Vance & Hines installed … I won’t get it until this weekend. Dammit! BTW, I traded in a 2021 Road Glide Limited; I was having difficulty at stops. I’ll be 71 in a few months - Don’t grow old!

@leebrewer7394 5 ай бұрын

Older is goid sir, beats the other option, just get a trike in 10 years. ha

@roybrazeau3486 5 ай бұрын

@@leebrewer7394 it really depends on one’s perspective. I’m headed for a knee replacement after riding season is over. I do agree that not everyone gets to the golden years. It is what it is …

@ihsanihsan3975 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Informative, good shots, and right length. Thanks!

@jayteesgear Жыл бұрын

Just hit the Harley Truck here in Scottsdale and rode the Low Rider S for the first time- (someone dumped the ST I signed up for so no go that day 😑… did NOT like the Mid pegs set high up!!! My knees were up in my gut. No bueno. I took out a FatBoy and fell in LOVE! I find the LR gorgeous bug its SOO not for me. I also noticed there wasnt much torque in the first 2 gears but DAMN! When you get up in 4th that thing comes Alive! Some of us can fall in love with our Eyes but then it falls flat once ya take em out. (Kinda like dating strippers in my 20’s 😂) . Cool to see you pointed out some of the same points as Im finding each time i ride new bikes. Cheers buddy! Keep goin 💯🇺🇸

@coolbeanzs Жыл бұрын

Excellent videos this is what I was looking for.

@douggantenbein5382 Жыл бұрын

Well done! Very interesting and informative, would not have guessed the similarities in specs.

@davidkennedy6945 3 ай бұрын

I bought the 2023 gold heritage love it

@georgerobinson9275 11 ай бұрын

I bought the 23 Heritage and am completely happy with it. I like how I can snap different windshields and fairings on it instantly. For long trips I bought a snap on aftermarket fairing and tourpack.

@jaseellis2385 2 ай бұрын

Which aftermarket fairing did you get?

@georgerobinson9275 2 ай бұрын

Reckless fairing and it is just as good or better than the one that came on my Street Glide.

@aspen9062 Жыл бұрын

Up until a week ago I was 2023 Fat Boy all the way. Now 66 and having two complete hip replacements I think I’d kick myself in the ass if I did not go for the Low Rider ST…that bike is SICK!

@ricklavoie4849 Жыл бұрын

Great review bud , nice job.

@drainmonkeys385 Жыл бұрын

These were the two bikes that I had narrowed my search down to and it was a difficult decision, but I went with the Lowrider ST and I love it it’s an awesome bike

@dmitrykhramov1832 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for such a detailed comparison. ( different bags sizes on ST left/right ! 😮 I didn’t know that…) 👌👍

@robertlumsden942 Жыл бұрын

the Heritage for sure. love it.

@specialed5098 Жыл бұрын

Love the Heritage 5 star rating

@bcbsilverhawk8426 Жыл бұрын

Nice video. I have both. Amazing models for all around use. Absolutely perfect for touring. Take care.

@Heritagejim5339 11 ай бұрын

Love the looks of both, but yesterday I bought the Heritage. My wife rides with me and the type of riding we do the Heritage was the choice in Atlas Silver. It has the chrome package which I prefer. Good video 😎

@lyndagreen6185 Жыл бұрын

I don't prefer the style of the Heritage, but when I tested the LRST, it felt very cramped. Plus, when flat-footed, my legs touch the hot areas of the ST. I thought the ST was going to be my dream bike, but it was very disappointing. I wish the Heritage had a fairing. I guess they make some aftermarket ones. ($$$)

@skittlesmcdittles Жыл бұрын

I'm about to take my second 1,700 mile tour on my '23 FXLRST and I am all about it. Best thing I could have done was buy a small luggage rack for the back for a Sportster and modified it to fit over the back fender (since they still don't have too many options available as of yet). I legit love the f** out of my Lowrider. She's fast, nimble, and is a nice alternative to full-size bagger, which is what I didn't want. Sidenote: you have to detach the entire fairing if you want to add front engine guards, and spend and additional $150 for a signal relocator to do so. I found that out the hard way.

@matt.docondor6099 Жыл бұрын

The Heritage is my kind of bike, it drives great and fits me with 6.3' well. I rode past october a gunship-grey lowrider st with floorboards ( maybe from a blacked-out 22 Heritage) , and I liked it a lot 😁😁😁.

@allborosnyc4544 Жыл бұрын

Nice video and a fair comparison. I have a 2020 Heritage V107. I love it and if the windshield, bags and rear seat is removed the bike looks like the discontinued Deluxe minus the white wall tires.

@bopetrov2830 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this story! Low rider ST for me. Time to move on from my Fat Boy , but I can’t wait!!!

@slicksouth5773 Жыл бұрын

Heritage all the way. You can keep the bags and windshield on or take them off. Looks mean with them taken off. Currently own a 2018 Heritage and my one complaint is the bags leak water in the rain which I solved by putting hard bags on my bike.

@throttleblip9854 Жыл бұрын

Good info to have, I've never ridden one in the rain. I wonder if HD is aware?

@allborosnyc4544 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 Heritage. Where did you buy the hard bags?

@jasonbreedlove495 Жыл бұрын

Great video and review. Only thing I need to say is the heritage right bag is also smaller, ever so slightly and for the same reason is the exhaust. I never noticed it until I did true dual fishtails on my 2018 Heritage.

@bradwilliams4921 Жыл бұрын

I would choose the Heritage over the Lowrider ST. Rode a rented Heritage from Ft. Lauderdale to Key West and back to Ft. Lauderdale in a single day and it was a pleasure. From what I hear the 114 has plenty of power out of the box although I would probably go with a Stage 1 or Stage 2.

@RevJay_Rides Жыл бұрын

The 117 and the updated style are awesome. Even so, I still like the old school stuff at times. I think I’d go for the Lowrider ST, but I’d also be happy with a Heritage.

@Brady-bh3gl Жыл бұрын

i love my 2019 Softail Heritage only wish I went 114 over the 107 bc of the ST at 117 when they came out

@TroubleTrucker Жыл бұрын

I’ve had both, traded in the Heritage for the ST. With the right modifications the ST is just as comfortable to me and I love it more than my Heritage.

@rickderoehn2630 Жыл бұрын

always been a fan of the heritage

@donaldpruett852 Жыл бұрын

Just substitute the word "HERITAGE" for classic styling. That styling exists for no other purpose than to harken back to the day. We old guys like saying those words, "Back in the day". The less electronics the better. My first bike was a 1864 XLCY Sportster. Breaks came with Rosary beads. When riding my Harleys all I wanted to hear was the engine's heartbeat, feel the wind and temperature changes and smell aromas as you'd ride past a freshly mowed field. I'm 78 and in great health and am about to buy my next (and likely, last) bike.. It will be bike #24 since high school. (1958-1962) It will likely be a Heritage.

@Aaronb2245 9 ай бұрын

I can't stand the dash on the Lower Rider ST, but otherwise like the bike. The heritage seems to be the better value for anyone wanting to do longer riders in comfort. Tough decision between the two.

@alexlegare6045 2 ай бұрын

i've owned the '19 heritage 114 and the '23 heritage. its always been my favorite looking bike and its so damn comfortable. i had a '16 wide glide and i didnt like that near as much. for my height it was ve

@dirtydynadepot5126 Жыл бұрын

thanks good job i have the heritage but i want the st ill fix the bag issue haha

@turtle19dad 11 ай бұрын

Classic styling. There. I said it for you. I love both. Same price range. Heritage bags look big. Kinda surprised.

@fps636 Жыл бұрын

Luv em both but gotta go with the Heritage. Bright wheel option along with motor and the vivid black is definatly classic. Brand newness of a 23 that still looks like a 93!

@jocera 10 ай бұрын

I went with the Heritage... at my age comfort won out over power

@throttleblip9854 10 ай бұрын

All about what you're doing. I've chosen the Heritage many times if I just want to get out and ride. Even bone stock that bike is so dang comfortable.

@freemind222 Жыл бұрын

Had a heritage before love that old school look and stripped down they just have sexy ass lines

@v.e.1864 Жыл бұрын

We should hold out on buying due to the prices and all the upgrades you have to make them comfortable.

@utomosantoso322 2 ай бұрын

Question: does Herritage have factory option to move the front control to mid control, as Lowrider factory setup?

@Andrew-nh5zg Жыл бұрын

I prefer the frame mounted fairing on the Lowrider ST.

@markmcintosh7095 Жыл бұрын

I have both they are fun bikes. The Low Rider st is much more fun for spirted riding.

@gregrose6915 Жыл бұрын

Great review. Give me the Heritage any day. Can that Heritage windshield get blown off the bike from a strong side wind or tailwind? Also , on those Heritage bags with the sunken locks, do they leak in the rain?, looks like they can fill with water when parked.

@argonwheatbelly637 8 ай бұрын

What do you think of putting heel-shifters on either?

@MrAndrew1953 Жыл бұрын

I’d prefer to go for the ST and look for an aftermarket fairing that offers more wind protection but isn’t as big and bulky around town.

@Jonathan-L Жыл бұрын

I'm still surprised that H-D discontinued the Deluxe. Perhaps it wasn't selling very well?

@wooddawg4868 7 ай бұрын

They are the same bike period. Just a few differences with headlamps.

@ozzie4306 Жыл бұрын

The ST any day of the week. The heritage looks like an old man’s bike. Studs on the seat and bags. Big ass windshield. Surprised it doesn’t have leather tassels oh the bars 😂😂

@throttleblip9854 Жыл бұрын

I really wish HD would do a version/option to do no studs just to see which one sells better.

@paulhall8027 Жыл бұрын

@Throttle Blip No studs would sell better. I have a 22 Heritage and the first thing I did was ditch the bags and order a corbin seat.

@youtubechannelcats Жыл бұрын

Wheres that video of the drifting heritage

@599Dan Жыл бұрын

Already have a Slim, so I would go with the LRS, not LRST

@TarDaniel Жыл бұрын

I'd definitely pick the Heritage in that new orange-ish gold-ish color. Don't remember the name.

@garyboman5018 Жыл бұрын

PROSPECT GOLD. I agree, waiting to see one in person!

@tylerthrash3155 Жыл бұрын

Heritage classic the Swiss army knife from HD.

@bassistguy 5 ай бұрын

Just purchased a new '23 Heritage. I test rode a '23 Low Rider ST and it honestly felt uncomfortable to me.

@Roadglide117 Жыл бұрын

Heritage all the way!

@mtollmaster3747 Жыл бұрын

Everyone talks about the asymmetrical bag on the ST. Can’t you just order a RH replacement bag from the Sport Glide if you are going 2 into1? They are the same I was told.

@throttleblip9854 Жыл бұрын

The Sport Glide did come with a different exhaust setup but still had the uneven bags. I get it's not ideal but I think people make a bigger deal out of it than it really is.

@bcbsilverhawk8426 Жыл бұрын

@@throttleblip9854I agree completely. I owned a Sport Glide and put 12000 miles on it. Different sized bags were a non issue for me. Fast forward to my Low Rider ST. Still a non issue. Take care.

@thelatenightbar Жыл бұрын

my opinion.. but the Heritage all day and everyday :). and versatile.. take off that passenger seat, take off the windshield, take off the saddlebags if you like, all easily done, and bam, you got a different bike

@347mav3 Жыл бұрын

In a perfect world id own both but id say yhe Softail would be a keeper and the Lowrider would be a "fun" bike.

@FRWD_FXLRST Жыл бұрын

ST FTW.

@throttleblip9854 Жыл бұрын

lets GO!

@jeffjohnson7576 Жыл бұрын

Heritage

@darrylwayne8948 4 ай бұрын

When is Harley going to move the license plate bracket below the taillight where it belongs??

@markhenry192 Жыл бұрын

Heritage for me but then I am I guess an older guy😪

@dirtydynadepot5126 Жыл бұрын

st bags bother me got to be the same

@irgendsoeintyp94 Жыл бұрын

the heritage costs 4500$ more than the low rider st in germany. ridiculous

@jimmycarlsson6414 Жыл бұрын

The Heritage - each day all week long...

@godsduality2229 Жыл бұрын

This really is no comparison. The heritage will be more comfortable, the low rider st. Will win in every other conceivable category, especially in the performance section. Looks are subjective other then that. But other then looks and comfort, it's not even close, the LRST dominates

@hunterhenneke3278 7 ай бұрын

Heritage all day I don’t care for performance and don’t like that faring

@MarvFitBikesKicks Жыл бұрын

Harley putting the dash on the tank of their bikes has to be the most ridiculous thing. Why would they put someone on two wheels in the predicament of having to take your eyes off the road to look at the the information on your dash? Lol Harley as a brand is so greedy and you can see it in how they go about the components they use. Love the bike but man these bikes are expensive to begin with and you almost have to immediately start investing thousands more to upgrade the thing with things it should already come with!

@carissafugle9898 Жыл бұрын

Low rider >

@johndrake1966 Жыл бұрын

Heritage 😊 Harley cheap out on the ugly plastic bags in my opinion and on a lot of there models. The s.t would look better the out the bags and fairing 😮

@michaelsodano616 Жыл бұрын

The ST fairing is atrocious

@garymiller685 Жыл бұрын

harley davidson bud light all woke i will not buy a new harley fire the ceo for harley bud light ads

@angelp9658 7 ай бұрын

Not good enough I'm sorry bottom of the line bike s !!

@stevencorry5790 Жыл бұрын

I got a 2020 Heritage Special with a Wreckless batwing fairing.....done 5700 miles on the World Record Pokjer Run in 2021.....around town or long hauls....it's the perfect bike.