Tijaniyya & the Ziyara Bogal - A Modern Sufi Pilgrimage

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Let's Talk Religion

Let's Talk Religion

5 жыл бұрын

In this documentary we explore the annual pilgrimage of "Ziyara Bogal", performed by the Tijaniyya Sufi-brotherhood.
It presents an image of Islam that isn't perhaps what most people are used to, and how diverse a religious tradition can be.
I would like to thank everyone that helped me along the way, and the wonderful people of Bogal for welcoming me. A very special thanks to Sait Mbai and Abdulrahman Barry.
Written, shot and presented by Filip Holm
Edited by Filip Holm and Aiat Almansour
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@musamusashi
@musamusashi 2 жыл бұрын
I visited Senegal in 1992 when i had embraced Islam for only 1 year and i was invited there by a brother i've met in Italy where i was living then. It has been one of the greatest experiences in my life: incredible people, generous and hospitable, may Allah protect and guide them always. Nice reportage Filip, your channel always on point.
@scienceseekerresearcher6130
@scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 жыл бұрын
but is it a faith going by the books ? I think they mixed with local tribal animism...
@musamusashi
@musamusashi 2 жыл бұрын
@@scienceseekerresearcher6130 everywhere you go around the Muslim world, you will find different degrees of local cultural influences that have found their way through the practice of Islam and people may or may not follow those cultural traditions and may or may not know precisely where Islam ends and their culture begins. Senegal is, in this regard, no different from the Arabian peninsula, the Indian subcontinent, or any other part of the Muslim world.
@scienceseekerresearcher6130
@scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 жыл бұрын
@@musamusashi understood
@sy-rahnefertari4698
@sy-rahnefertari4698 Жыл бұрын
@@musamusashi I love your response. I just said something similar when asked this question. Jerejef! I am happy you enjoyed your time in the land of terranga.
@diegot.guimaraesyaqubabdal4622
@diegot.guimaraesyaqubabdal4622 2 жыл бұрын
Peace! Sidi Filip, thank you for that. Brazilian Tijāni here, murīd of Sh. Mahi Cisse (from Medina Baye (Kaolack), Senegal), fan of your amazing channel and I very appreciate all your work here... Very hard to stop watching, a real religion videopedia, mā shā'Allah! I love the most all your "video-articles" about Islam and its history and pre-history, as well as all monotheistic and hanifiyya related, what I research by myself and you are an amazing researcher and very reliable source. BarakAllahu fik wassalaam
@torture_des_fils_doummayya2652
@torture_des_fils_doummayya2652 Жыл бұрын
Obrigado!
@torture_des_fils_doummayya2652
@torture_des_fils_doummayya2652 Жыл бұрын
Como entraste na tariqah tijani?
@torture_des_fils_doummayya2652
@torture_des_fils_doummayya2652 Жыл бұрын
Se puder responder sobre como entrar na tariqah Tijanniyyah aqui no Brasil eu agradeço
@OmarSissay
@OmarSissay 2 ай бұрын
Salam brother ​@@torture_des_fils_doummayya2652 I hope you find what you were looking for
@YaBoiHakim
@YaBoiHakim 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for all the effort you went through, this was amazingly in-depth and clear. I've always wanted to learn more about West African Sufi traditions, and sadly not enough literature is written on the topic.
@safi.uh_
@safi.uh_ 2 жыл бұрын
dgfhghghgh i genuinely didn’t expect to see you in the comments of this video
@KANASU-BARZ
@KANASU-BARZ 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Man! I can get definitely get you some books to read on west African Sufism!!! Hit me up anytime 😄
@LuizFernandoLFSG
@LuizFernandoLFSG 2 жыл бұрын
@@safi.uh_ exactly my thought! hahah
@scienceseekerresearcher6130
@scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 жыл бұрын
The literature is absent because those tribes haven't taken education seriously.
@ammanite
@ammanite Жыл бұрын
Salam Comrade, glad we share additional interests. I would recommend Rudolph Ware's excellent works on this topic, in addition to Shaykh Ahmadou Bamba: A Peacemaker for Our Time, A Spirit of Tolerance: The Inspiring Life of Tierno Bokar, and the prolific Tijani Shaykh Ibrahim Niasse's writings directly (which are in Arabic and also available in English and French). Finally, this channel just released a video on Bamba that I recommend.
@learningisfun6588
@learningisfun6588 5 жыл бұрын
When my father named me Tijaniyya he knew what he was doing. Learning about my name is a very fascinating experience
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion 5 жыл бұрын
That's really cool, do you/your father have any further connection with the Tijaniyya? Happy I could be of service :)
@learningisfun6588
@learningisfun6588 5 жыл бұрын
No he doesn't but he studied religion and various cultures. He is a historian by training.
@ismaelbenhayoun2668
@ismaelbenhayoun2668 3 жыл бұрын
@@LetsTalkReligion Thank you very much for your Video. You can have more info in Fes , Ain el Madhi , Kaolackand many other pleaces .. There are unic books you will find easily : Jawahir al Maani... at disposal for any need .BR
@HHH_3
@HHH_3 Жыл бұрын
Ahmad tijani was a psychopath, look up his history. Follow real islam by following the Quran and Sunnah.
@redouxne7392
@redouxne7392 Жыл бұрын
Nice name !
@_isatoo
@_isatoo 2 ай бұрын
You have been such a reliable source. I grew up in this culture and being heavily influenced by western education I never valued it and now that I’m older trying to find the path home, there isn’t much unbiased information. I’m eternally grateful for the powers that led you to create this page. You’ve helped me find my way back home
@alankent
@alankent 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! All humans are humans. Humans should share. Humans should practice tolerance, acceptance, and kindness. I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
@calmyourself1658
@calmyourself1658 2 жыл бұрын
wow I was in Fez 2018 and joining the Tijani dzikir., met Senegalese.. cannt describe the happiness experienced
@philipoulton7730
@philipoulton7730 Жыл бұрын
Your closing statement about the need to meet people to re-educate ourselves was heart-moving. Your experience in Bogal sounds beautiful. I have watched about a dozen of your videos now (mostly on Sufism) and they have all been helpful to me on the path I have recently chosen. Thank you. Cheers, Philip
@TheShayneMay
@TheShayneMay 3 жыл бұрын
I loved your final message here. Get to know people, and you will find that things are not always so different between us.
@annihilated99
@annihilated99 3 жыл бұрын
Asalaamualaykum bro. Love your content, may god shower you with he’s blessings inshallah. I would like to bring to your attention that as a tijaani myself I was quite disappointed that shaykh Ibrahim niasse was not mentioned in this beautiful video nor shaykh mahy nor shaykh Hassan cisse. These saints played vital roles in the tijaaniya tariqah especially shaykh Ibrahim niasse not only shaykh Abdurahman Barry. Keep up the great work bro.
@maina_1116
@maina_1116 3 жыл бұрын
Sheikh Ibraheem Nyasse is the most important figure and the most famous tijjaniya fugure after Sheikh Tijjani himself, he's not just known in senegal but around Africa especially Nigeria for example his photos are the most printed and the most popular scholar in the country. I am shocked not even his mention in this documentary.
@annihilated99
@annihilated99 3 жыл бұрын
@@maina_1116 exactly!!!
@minafinch6111
@minafinch6111 10 ай бұрын
True talk brother, can’t continue the video again
@dj_zeeez
@dj_zeeez 6 ай бұрын
I was suprised also bro. Not even a mention of Sheikh Ibrahim Inyass in this Tijaniyya topic!
@hdiallo2008
@hdiallo2008 2 ай бұрын
@@dj_zeeez Well, I am a murid of Cheikh Ibrahim Niasse RTA myself and my view is that we should praise Filip for his efforts. Baye Niasse is my Cheikh but we should recognize that he is not the only Cheikh in the Tidjanya order not to mention the other sufi orders. So, we should be more tolerant.
@ERSpro
@ERSpro 5 жыл бұрын
Asalaam alaikum! This is so beautiful masha Allah. I have been Muslim for 10 years al hamdulilah. But I just recently took the tariqa tijaniyya with sheik mahy over the phone here in Denver colorado. It is truly a beautiful path, and this documentary is so refreshing. Thank you brother, you have a Light about you, and I can see the spiritual benefit you gained from this experience. May Allah guide us all. Amin.
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion 5 жыл бұрын
Wa'alaikum salam my friend! I'm very glad you liked it, and you are certainly right that I benefited in many ways from the experience. I'm happy you've found a spiritual path that gives you light, my experience with the Tijaniyya has been nothing but positive!
@scotzer
@scotzer Жыл бұрын
Philip, I am so heartened by you. You offer such intelligent and sensitive videos on religion, and I appreciate it very much. I met the Mouridiyya community here in New York several years ago, at a symposium on Sheikh Amadou Bamba, pretty much by accident, and found them so kind and welcoming. That I was a white man, and not a Muslim, didn't seem to matter at all to them. Their generosity was simply of an out of hand type, just the thing that they do, likely all the time.
@imunknown4762
@imunknown4762 Жыл бұрын
I’ve long lusted a piece like this where you would some kind of elaborate the Tajaniya Sufi order like you explained other Sufi orders in your previous videos. Honestly I must say I’m kinda disappointed after seeing this just now! You literally didn’t say anything about the order, it’s founder nor it’s noms and successors like Sheikh Ibrahim Nyass and so on. The main picture in this piece is only what you saw in Bogal but hasn’t actually covered “Tijaniya” as a whole. Tijaniya is actually considered the most dominant Sufi order in West Africa today having millions of practitioners in places like Nigeria and Ghana. Hoping to see a more detailed discussion soon. ❤ I’m inspired by your efforts tho.
@SeekersofUnity
@SeekersofUnity 2 жыл бұрын
How did i miss this? This is gold.
@rokhayatijani
@rokhayatijani Жыл бұрын
Thank you for All you do and have been doing! Being Tijāni from Senegal now living in the US i find that i learn even more from your content besides it being delightful so Thank You for that! May God bless you🌟
@wojtekbudzowski3157
@wojtekbudzowski3157 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video, especially for this last few minutes where you share so openly your experience and opinion.
@muhammadfaizanjawed9307
@muhammadfaizanjawed9307 2 жыл бұрын
You filmed this journey beautifully. Deserves millions of likes
@Bosniak803
@Bosniak803 Жыл бұрын
Amazing ... I love Sufies ... Greetings from Bosnia
@faisaliddrisu6636
@faisaliddrisu6636 2 жыл бұрын
I think if you're to about tijaniyya in west Africa you must talk about sheikh Ibrahim of Senegal
@im_aleey
@im_aleey 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised he didn't.
@typrovoost7640
@typrovoost7640 Жыл бұрын
I am in a weird place…and your words are meaningful and helpful to me. Viewing your videos right now is my pilgrimage and I am grateful. ….and I love the music….
@marasine6600
@marasine6600 4 жыл бұрын
Please, please...could you give me a link where I can find the music from the minute 29 of your video ?This music makes me fall to my knees and transports my spirit back in Turkey where I lived 6 month, I was greeted with kindness everywhere, I could read, meditate on the roof of the house, share meals, attend funeral evenings. I miss them so much !
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion 4 жыл бұрын
Your words warm my heart, as I actually made that music myself :) I have released it under the name Zini. Here is a link to Spotify: open.spotify.com/track/6QnuBUANLRXq0u0BCF59VK?si=aTlJ_Ce9QkKxEOIFddU8gQ
@aamirhita8262
@aamirhita8262 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please also share your artist name and complete song name, because I'm using a mobile phone and can't exactly open the link due to some app glitch. Also, you've done a really great work through all your videos. I m commenting on your videos for first time, so...
@hdiallo2008
@hdiallo2008 2 ай бұрын
Filip, you made my day, thank you for this beautiful documentary.
@datodrali3998
@datodrali3998 3 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah...very2 informative. The true lived-meaning of Islam.
@dawnredman3645
@dawnredman3645 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@goodwifelucy5602
@goodwifelucy5602 Жыл бұрын
Ameen to all that you said, I just wish that it was to a very much bigger audience. Can't you get yourself on Swedish radio or television? The world needs your voice to reach the people who wouldn't be watching this. Thank you for all the beautiful work you do ❤️
@tahirkamrankhan
@tahirkamrankhan Жыл бұрын
Watched this episode after Bamba , enjoyed thoroughly- so informative
@Pleasedunkmeintheoceanagain
@Pleasedunkmeintheoceanagain 2 жыл бұрын
You’re living a dream:) thank you, sir. For sharing your fascinating mind.
@magpie1999aus
@magpie1999aus 2 жыл бұрын
10:20, that was very beautiful. Excellent capture.
@ashimov1970
@ashimov1970 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing, beautiful full of light people and place. Love it. Allahu Akbar
@grilledpikachu
@grilledpikachu Ай бұрын
Very nice video!! Loved it
@1Truth
@1Truth 5 жыл бұрын
You should go to kaolacak Senegal for the documentary look it up
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! Would love to go sometime.
@kossiboytyzzy4985
@kossiboytyzzy4985 2 жыл бұрын
Sénégal Kaolack médina Baye
@sangonediene7931
@sangonediene7931 2 жыл бұрын
@@LetsTalkReligion i invite you for sure during the annual Gamou "celebration of the birth of the Prophet Mouhammad Pbuh "
@RainingFlow19
@RainingFlow19 3 жыл бұрын
Very insightful my friend thank you. I am a muslim as well but I never could understand how sufi sect work as how they elevate someone to that status after the prophet but your insight into their lives is quite an eye opener. So many cultures in this world
@huzaifahali412
@huzaifahali412 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha. Because Suffism has nothing to do with Islam. Suffism is against the Quraanic teachings, agaist Sunnah against the truthful path of the Companions of Prophet sallaahu alaihi wasallam. Suffism is deviant. Stay away!
@Shukr66
@Shukr66 2 жыл бұрын
@@huzaifahali412 ASTAGHFIRULLAH!... A OU ZHU BILAHI MIN ASH SHAITAN IR RAJIM!
@ishxyzaak
@ishxyzaak Жыл бұрын
@@huzaifahali412 please don't be extreme. This rhetoric is very divisive. I agree that there are some definitely misguidance in the practice of some sufis but NOT all their practices are deviant
@bryanf9763
@bryanf9763 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!!
@Maka0492
@Maka0492 2 жыл бұрын
Mashallah,it’s so beautiful.
@faaradar
@faaradar Жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@johncarayol8577
@johncarayol8577 3 жыл бұрын
really happy with your youtube channel. You are doing a wonderful Job. How can i get in touch with you?
@umaryusufhaske-ur7sk
@umaryusufhaske-ur7sk Жыл бұрын
I love this video ❤❤❤❤❤
@maina_1116
@maina_1116 3 жыл бұрын
How do you talk about Tijjaniya and senegal but no mention of cheick Ibrahim Nyasse Barhama? Is there some conspiracy that I don't know?
@nanabai329
@nanabai329 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a young girl in my village back in Mali, I was invited by a friend to a tijani zikir/ Quran reading as I went to madrassa and it was at night in this one home compound where they have a large fire as a light source and everyone sits around it and read Quran and say duas. I went a couple of times. I knew they where tijani, but I did not not it was a Sufi order or so widespread in Senegal.
@eg3549
@eg3549 2 жыл бұрын
I love it 🙏
@psyfie
@psyfie Жыл бұрын
My bro, you do an amazing job and i love your videos... please note the t in marabout is not pronounced àlà french phonetics.. it is like maraboo.. love, peace, & afiya
@elicope55
@elicope55 2 жыл бұрын
Mashallah
@bashirshah5347
@bashirshah5347 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Bro 😘
@ghandifatuh2614
@ghandifatuh2614 Жыл бұрын
An important personality is missing in this video ... this is serious! Tijjaniya and no mention of Sheikh Ibrahim Nyass of Kaolakh - Senegal ??? 🤔 The awaited grand spiritual khaliph of Sheikh Ahmed Tijjani who took Tijjaniya to every doorstep in Africa and every corner of the globe at large
@imunknown4762
@imunknown4762 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was just commenting about! This video is literally just what he saw and not an explanatory piece about TIJANIYA.
@yahya2925
@yahya2925 Жыл бұрын
Texan here! I took tariqa tijaniyyah from Shaykh Simone Dario Nardella last year as my Murabbi and Shaykh Wuld Khairy (H.A) is mawlana Shaykh alhamdulillah. Truly, Prophet Muhammad, The Sayyid of all existence (SAW) is our Shaykh. Its nice to see this video
@Knowble7
@Knowble7 4 ай бұрын
You were initiated in Texas?!
@yahya2925
@yahya2925 4 ай бұрын
@@Knowble7 Alhamdulillah yes, over the internet
@hdiallo2008
@hdiallo2008 2 ай бұрын
@@yahya2925 Wonderful. Is that really possible ? I thought you needed physical contact. Nevertheless, congratulations
@yahya2925
@yahya2925 2 ай бұрын
@@hdiallo2008 Absolutely possible over the phone/video call
@yahya2925
@yahya2925 2 ай бұрын
@@Knowble7 Yup. Over the phone I was initiated by my shaykh Simone Dario Nardella a Muqaddam of Shaykh Ould Khayri (H.A)
@ajaydalaya2195
@ajaydalaya2195 3 жыл бұрын
Senegal is one of my favorite destinations to visit.
@Sikhou999
@Sikhou999 3 жыл бұрын
you are welcome. where are you from ?
@ajaydalaya2195
@ajaydalaya2195 2 жыл бұрын
Pune India.
@boon1204
@boon1204 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@burgerboyolar500
@burgerboyolar500 Жыл бұрын
Mashaaallah Documentary line up. The title of your video should rather be Ziyara Bogal. Tabarakallah Bless the Shiekh up there. The seas of gnostics and Tijaani sufism outpouring are in Madinabaye ,Kaolak Senegal.
@isthme8103
@isthme8103 9 ай бұрын
Please do a video on صاحب الفيضة التجانية Sheikh Ibrahim Niass رضي الله عنه
@sangonediene7931
@sangonediene7931 2 жыл бұрын
03:09 mns they are singing the names of those muslim spiritual leaders of senegal as Mame Maodo Malick (rta) tivaouane Cheikh Ibrahima Niass (rta) kaolack and so on for their love to the Prophet Mouhamad pbuh and their work for Islam. Welcome to Sénégal🇸🇳 west Africa🙏
@jamesstevenson7725
@jamesstevenson7725 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a practicing Sufi or murdeed. Have you ever studied Hazrat Inayat Khan's version of Sufism?
@dreamermagister8561
@dreamermagister8561 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if mevlana and other sufi leaders have had a similar following? We know some of them were famous but were they famous among the people or the educated elite?
@OrtegaSeason
@OrtegaSeason 4 жыл бұрын
Would you say mixed gender zikr is common in this order? Do they use musical instruments from what you’ve seen? Thanks
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion 4 жыл бұрын
Yes mixed gener dhikr/zikr is pretty common from my experience. But they rarely (if ever) use any musical instruments at all.
@Broadway10past10
@Broadway10past10 Жыл бұрын
🤗🙏
@D_Spicity
@D_Spicity Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@lavidadeariadne
@lavidadeariadne 3 жыл бұрын
I from atlanta but my mom’s from that area glad you had fun
@AdenSouthYemen
@AdenSouthYemen Жыл бұрын
TJ!!
@maina_1116
@maina_1116 3 жыл бұрын
From 30:00 😍
@bernardmcavoy1864
@bernardmcavoy1864 11 ай бұрын
Why the American accent, Filip?
@irinav.1797
@irinav.1797 Жыл бұрын
Smoking is not allowed in Tidjaniya, I'm curious that you are mentioning alcohol - it's haram in Islam in general.
@scienceseekerresearcher6130
@scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 жыл бұрын
Is the tijjaniyah sufi master considered super natural or prophetic?
@saidkhan5086
@saidkhan5086 6 ай бұрын
More of saint kind of
@jasemalhammadi4228
@jasemalhammadi4228 Жыл бұрын
when i saw the great pyramid of Khufu and how people blindly dedicated their entire lives to venerate a human being surrounded by priests that will legitimize his sainthood. i can believe any other stories
@beefandpotatoes6525
@beefandpotatoes6525 2 жыл бұрын
8 hours work 8 hours personal issues such as eating sleeping etc. what about the other 8 hours? Here comes the role of communal living created by religion. Who cares what they believe what is important is the end result of communal living. The loneliness of industrial life and individualism is an unsolvable problem of the industrial life.
@belqissa5002
@belqissa5002 2 жыл бұрын
On point ! So true ...👌
@lboysaidy2219
@lboysaidy2219 2 жыл бұрын
Suffi Tarriqa have many followers in senegal but Gambia is a Sunni country
@p.h.freitas6727
@p.h.freitas6727 2 жыл бұрын
Man they treated you so wonderfuly because you were the 1 foreign there. But if 2 million people from other countries migrated there, their behavior would be different.
@p.h.freitas6727
@p.h.freitas6727 2 жыл бұрын
Humanity is the same all around. Everybody loves different people as long as it's just a few. But every single nation hates mass migration.
@muhammadamiin1969
@muhammadamiin1969 2 жыл бұрын
Its not about the number of foreigners it's about their culture, hospitality how they treat guests and strangers a like. Because if you ibserve closely or visit middle Eastern or African countries you'll notice they treat strangers like guests and that is powerfull it is the determining factor in their behaviour.
@ammanite
@ammanite Жыл бұрын
Not true. Numerous countries in Africa and the Middle East have hundreds of thousands to millions of refugees and they're not mistreated either-and that is despite the fact that these countries are already poor and struggling. You Europeans are uniquely xenophobic in the world.
@kuroazrem5376
@kuroazrem5376 3 жыл бұрын
My informants...you make it seem like you were spying or something....
@LetsTalkReligion
@LetsTalkReligion 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe, that's what the people we spend time with and interview are called when we do field research!
@kuroazrem5376
@kuroazrem5376 3 жыл бұрын
@@LetsTalkReligion Filip 007 I guess, lol
@Dinshunoslik
@Dinshunoslik Жыл бұрын
Correction: It's there is no God but Allah!
@kuroazrem5376
@kuroazrem5376 3 жыл бұрын
Smoking should be banned everywhere...... Just saying.
@PpAirO5
@PpAirO5 5 ай бұрын
Islamophobia is NOT a thing. Have you ever seen that massive amount of video, discussion, debates and information on Islam online ? More and more people try to escape Islam, as they get to know what Islam really is about. Islam is pretty much any bad thing you can think of. If you don't believe me, look into the sources.
@staciwashington3212
@staciwashington3212 Жыл бұрын
Foreboding....
@SalmanKhan-rz3mc
@SalmanKhan-rz3mc 10 ай бұрын
Show this to the Taliban/ISIS, especially the part where the woman wearing pink dress is hugging the guy and kinda of singing Lailahailalah.
@ezyfnef
@ezyfnef 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Gambia, you'd think these people are authentic in their practice of Islam. You live you learn and you're rectified. Sufism is a real problem unfortunately in West Africa. The prophet SAW wouldn't approve of you all idolizing your Sheikhs. Hanging up his photographs and all sorts of nonsense. The singing of God's name is unnecessary. Not too different from the dancing and twirling Sufis of Turkey. May Allah guide us all. Some of this is done out of pure ignorance.
@musamusashi
@musamusashi 2 жыл бұрын
If we were to judge Muslims by their character and conduct, we would see that those brothers and sisters are much closer to the true spirit of Islam, something that salafi, wahabi or those other sects that criticize sufism never are, harsh and intollerant as they are.
@ezyfnef
@ezyfnef 2 жыл бұрын
@@musamusashi It really has nothing to do with the character of people. You don't judge a religion by the people that practice it. Human beings are fallible. You just have to follow the directives of the scripture. If we judge sufism according to the teachings of the prophet SAW, it's nothing more than an invention. These Sufi's love their saints more than they do the prophet of Allah. Some worship these saints. They're totally lost.
@musamusashi
@musamusashi 2 жыл бұрын
@@ezyfnef it has ALL to do with character and behaviour. What prophet Muhammad (as) said when asked who is the best among our umma? Those who treat their family, neighbours and people better ;)
@ezyfnef
@ezyfnef 2 жыл бұрын
@@musamusashi So because isis is going off cutting people's heads on TV and they claim to be Muslim, do that make you one of them?
@musamusashi
@musamusashi 2 жыл бұрын
I personally not follow sufism or any other ism nor do i consider myself anything but Muslim: i just observe the divisions and sectarianism and feel sad... but Allah is well higher than anything they attribute to him, including man made religions that try to suffocate the natural, logical and Divine way. Fi amani Allah, ma salama.
@huzaifahali412
@huzaifahali412 3 жыл бұрын
Grave worship, music, asking shaikh for barkah, innovation, anti-Islamic beliefs these are some deviant aspects if Suffism. Its not Islam. Please remember.
@FindRelapsE
@FindRelapsE 2 жыл бұрын
Leave the wahabism at home
@ishxyzaak
@ishxyzaak Жыл бұрын
@@FindRelapsE bro not all of sufism is bad but you can't deny that some of these people's practice is not fully Islamic. Just look at the way the men and women were seating together. The prophet would not have done that. Men and women pray in different spaces for a reason
@kharchoufmounir1673
@kharchoufmounir1673 3 жыл бұрын
I don't want to offend anyone, but as a Muslim I think that the best one to follow is Mohamed PBAH and the sufism wasn't one of his ways, because one of the bases of islam is al iitidal (the equilibre) in every aspect of life, so I don't see from where the sofi practice get there legitimacy. Yes the love and support is good but any hadith sahih that proves the practice they do is linked to what the quran and the prophet has done in his life?
@calisthenicsduaffaa3939
@calisthenicsduaffaa3939 3 жыл бұрын
And the Prophet tells us to follow the highly knowledgeable after him and these Shaikhs are examples of such people so we have nothing to do than to follow them. And you should know that what they do mainly is make us constantly remember Allah and His messenger.
@calisthenicsduaffaa3939
@calisthenicsduaffaa3939 3 жыл бұрын
And again,you don’t need a Hadith to make you love the Prophet no matter the way you do it but it should not be shirk
@shafiqsha9875
@shafiqsha9875 3 жыл бұрын
Sufism is Islam as long you don't do shirik.
@ammanite
@ammanite Жыл бұрын
Sufism is the name of the discipline that focuses on Islamic spirituality (Ihsan/tazkiya), just like fiqh is the name of the discipline that focuses on Islamic law (Islam) and aqida is the name of the discipline that focuses on Islamic theology (Iman). None of those 3 terms or the many schools of thought that developed around them existed in the time of the Prophet, but as we know from the hadith of Jibreel all 3 are required. And the Qur'an instructs us to "ask the people of dhikr if you do not know," in the case of spirituality "dhikr" in this verse is both the literal and metaphorical meaning (people of knowledge / scholars). They are the ones who focused on that and preserved it in a continous chain (sanad) from the time of the Prophet PBUH until today. Of course I mean legitimate Sufis/Sufi shaykhs not misguided fakers.
@kharchoufmounir1673
@kharchoufmounir1673 Жыл бұрын
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