It's always strange when you outgrow your heroes, either by outgrowing their artistic sensibilities, or by looking closer and realizing you're just more emotionally mature than them now. At once validating and disappointing. This video essay captured that feeling perfectly, as well as being a great dissection of Tim Burton and his limitations as a filmmaker. Thanks for posting!

Bojack Horseman makes an excellent observation that people tend to stop growing as people once they receive enough love and adulation that they no longer feel like they need to improve. Whether this comes from being in a long term relationship or from becoming famous and loved by tons of fans, you tend to hit a point where you feel like you're loved for who you currently are, so why become someone else? Your observation that Burton's worldview seems to be "The world is not made for someone like me, but I have found a Burton-shaped niche where I can be who I am and be loved for it, so I don't care if the world stays the way it is" really resonates with that sentiment. Burton got into the industry at a pretty young age and figured out his brand therein very quickly, so there was probably never a sufficient challenge to his mindset that he ever had to address.

Actually a common trope of ghost stories is that the ghost gets his/her revenge on the person who killed them in the first place. So Emily being set free from the world of the death after her murderer dies is actually quite fitting.

My interpretation with Emily's character is her obsession with being a bride. Being loved by one person alone. I mean, she is definitely loved. The townspeople all love and respect her, they sing a whole song about her, they drop everything to organise her wedding, and the worm and spider sing a whole song trying to convince her that she's better than just one guy, but all she cares about is being loved by one person and doesn't really have any self love of her own. She died as a bride to be and her whole identity even in death is tied to fulfilling that role, to the point where she obsesses with the one guy who gets caught up in everything despite him very obviously not being interested. That's what I think she meant at the end by "you set me free". She learnt she doesn't have to be a bride, she doesn't have to be loved by one person and can just accept herself as she is. She's not just the "corpse bride", she can just be Emily Ot maybe that's what it *should've* been at least

"He never got the cheerleader" is so true I never realized that about all of these films hoooly crap Another great essay from you hell yeah

I don't kno why i never put together that Burton always cast Depp because he was the "me but prettier" wish fulfillment choice, but man that totally recolours everything. The one that jumps to mind is that scene from Alice in Wonderland where the Hatter asks "have I gone mad" and gets a little quaint "yep but thats why you're perfect" head pat and a trophy. My eyes have been pried open with bbq tongs.

The problem with Frankenweenie is the same as the problem with the new Tim Burton Wednesday. Oh this character is an outcast cos they are a goth. Then they go to a gothic school where everyone is a weirdo. Ah, and there they finally fit in? No. There they stll are an outcast. Oh, howcome? Oh because they're a shithead.

Half-way through when you started descriping the women Tim writes paired up with all sadboys deserving love of these women, I thought of how some Evangelion fans think that's what Ren and Shinji are... And low and behold, you made that exact same comparison, where HE is that kind of Evangelion fan.

"Growing doesn't wipe the hurt away, it just gives you more tools to deal with it." God, that line hit me so hard... I knew this was going to be a great analysis video but I didn't expect it to also speak so personally and honestly about the feeling of growing up as an outcast, about the reason why his works impacted us the way they did. I think Tim Burton's work was comforting because it was coddling, because it never challenged us to try and grow or find the strength within ourselves. In a way, I can also kind of understand the fear that Burton sadboys have of the outcasts who would accept them if just given the chance - in fact I kind of lived it, I spent so much of my life denying my own gender identity and felt almost afraid of the friends I had who embraced their own divergence, it was something about myself that I was scared of admitting. There's a sort of comfort in just assuming no one else would understand, without ever challenging that idea. Because growth is scary, but the alternative is placating.... That isn't the takeaway I expected, but I'm so glad it's what I got. This video is a masterwork and I hope it gets all the love it deserves, because it's a message that a lot of people deserve to hear

I love the Evangelion references in the chapter titles

At Miss Peregrine’s home for peculiar children Tim Burton also erased the fact that some characters were Jewish and even changed jakes pet name

I think you put the nail on the head when you said how Burton writes characters that are outcasts, but that also doesn't wanna be associated with other outcasts. I personally feel like this is also sadly a part of growing up and being in public schools, which is why some people can relate to this as well (The "I'm not like other kids, and hanging with teachers). I'm autistic and I went to a charter school for neurodivergent kids from about 6 grade to end of high school. Even when I was there, I didn't find myself relating to or growing close to any other students, mainly cause we didn't have similar interests or we didn't have good social behaviors (I was def an asshole most of the times, due to lack of knowing how to assert myself w/o being an asshole). This isn't to excuse this type of narrative from Burton, since as you said, he often insert the white lead as the only normal one. But it is fascinating to reflect on this, as I didn't have the tools I needed to make friends, even though I had the perfect environment to not be an outcast. Often times, watching this video I was thinking "Am I still the asshole like Burton? Am I too self absorbed even as an adult?" Which, honestly, I don't have an answer, I've def become more chill, but I feel like I'm not doing enough. That I'm isolating myself cause it's easy, because I feel like I don't have enough control in my life right now to change.

As someone Obsessed with German Expressionist films (have seen "Caligari" 18 times!), one thing I dislike about Burton's use of the style is that he doesn't seem to acknowledge where Expressionism came from. The art movement was a response to a dying Romanticism, as empires fell apart around the turn of the 19th century and new political and cultural ideas began to arise (as every art movement is inseparable from its wider historical context). This all came to a head during and after WWI, where Europe was faced with heavy-hitting disillusionment when it came to its place in the world, as well as known "truths" about the nature of humanity, power, and social structures that were being called into question. Expressionism is the internal forced outward, and it comes as entire cultures were questioning how everything they knew was going to change after the tumult of the 1890s-1910s. Burton wants the aesthetics of Expressionism, but we don't see the roots. "Caligari," for instance, is not Expressionist solely because of its set design and costuming; it is Expressionist because its themes of abusive power structures, trauma, and psychological turmoil all echo sentiments largely felt after the war, and we see these themes pushed to the extreme within the plot and performances of the actors. It's Expressionist in the same way the Alban Berg opera "Wozzeck" is Expressionist. A couple wonky houses, stripy patterns, and big-eyed characters may echo the way Expressionism conveyed some of the ideas it aimed to, well, express, but without any purpose for those aesthetics beyond aesthetics alone, it just feels sort of... empty.

Burton was also an inspiring filmmaker for me during my childhood and teenage years, and a part of me can't fully let go of some of his filmmography because of how much it meant to me when I was younger. Alas, in many other aspects, I am also not sad to let him go. Buyt yes, let us all reclaim Jack Skellington for the internet.

We shall reclaim Jack immediately, but you blew my mind 5 times over with this and the word syrupy analysis of that boy Burton. Those Corpse Bride storyboards were fire tho. Tim is style over substance for sure, a glass cannon storyteller true, but at least it looks cool lmaoo. I mean, Keaton Batman is goated, edgier backstory notwithstanding. EDIT: good god that credits song is hitting omg! I need a link for that version of dreaming frfr!

I think the biggest thing about Corpse Bride not clicking for me is its based off jewish folklore which i think is far more cool and gothic horror story than what this movie turned out to be. Guy took the jewish out of the jewish horror story. Edit: I just got to the part where you talked about the original story. Thank god someone else gets it. Wonderful video. I can not wait to see more.

I surprised people don't bring up Charlie and the Chocolate Factory when doing deep dives into Burton's life and filmography. His version of Wonka feels like an autobiographical confession. He's a creative talent whose vision helped him become super famous and wealthy, but he's never gotten past his boyhood, and cut himself off from the rest of the world. Even his biggest fans, Charlie and his uncle, end up being stunned with how he can't relate to them. Charlie's arc in that film was seeing past the childhood icon's veneer, because Charlie is the one with the capacity to grow up.

As a person who's favorite movie still is The Nightmare Before Christmas and that was obsessed with Tim Burton as a kid this video really spoke to me, that last part about learning to love yourself in particular hit really hard. Thanks for this.

the Evangelion framing device is very funny and thematically works great with the subject of the video, but "you are (not) good at writing women" in the rebuild movie title format hits especially hard and is especially funny--that and Welles' speech overlayed with EoE, incredible stuff

Here in the #SelickSquadBitch we love us some blue and green haired girls, sassy cats, funny demons, big bugs, and (hopefully) living shadows.... we choose to ignore the money in the corner. Loved this video essay so much that my autistic ass rewatched it 4 times back to back. Amazing work as always!

I think you fundamentally misunderstood the plot of Corpse Bride. Its not really Victor's story. Its Emily's story told through the lens of Victor. Its not about whether sadboy Victor gets his uncomplicated marriage to Victoria or just settles with Emily. Its about whether Emily will steal another's life and choices and happiness because hers had been stolen by past trauma. She had her life and her chance at love stolen from her by Lord Barkis. Then she decided to "wait for her true love to come set her free". When Victor accidentally marries her, she decides he is her reward for her past trauma, to the point where she is willing to kill him and disregard his choice (Victoria) and allow him to sacrifice his happiness for the sake of her own. At the end, she sees that she is just repeating her trauma upon another and realises that she is being the Lord Barkis of another's story. She stops him from making the sacrifice for her and prevents Lord Barkis from repeating the same trauma upon Victoria. If anything she is the sadGIRL of the story. Victor doesn't change much over the course of the story, because he is not the main character. Emily is.

I'm surprised people view emily and victor as a feasible couple. I always viewed corpse bride as less of a love story and more of a story about moving on. Not only was Emily dead but she seemed to love the idea of marriage more than she loved victor

This is a fantastic essay which deconstructs both the works of Tim Burton, along with the man himself and his history. It can be a tough pill to swallow, the realisation that you have outgrown something (or someone in this case), which use to hold massive value for you, but this tackles that concept in a very interesting way, along with bringing a unique perspective to the critical evaluation of his filmography. Keep up the amazing work, and have a lovely day.

Tim burton is that kid in school who think he a outside but everyone else want him to join them but he think he too cool for normal society

I think the best (or worst, depending on your perspective) example of "any outcast who isn't a Tim Burton analogue doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt" comes from "Batman Returns". It's hard to argue that Keaton's Bruce Wayne is the most well-adjusted human being, and he's certainly been through his share of trauma that he deserves a chance to heal from. But he still has love--between Alfred, both Vicki Vale and Selina Kyle, and the general admiration of Gotham City as a whole--and the narrative itself treats him with empathy. Selina Kyle and Oswald Cobblepot, on the other hand? Selina's reward after having a mental breakdown when her sexist boss's psychological abuse finally tips over into physical abuse... is killing herself so Bruce can be happy. Oswald's reward after being shunned by *everybody*, including his own parents, for his physical appearance... is killing himself so Gotham will be better off without him. And before that, they aren't framed very flatteringly, with Selina being a pretty beat-for-beat "hysterical woman" and Oswald being a disgusting freak and antisemitic caricature. So the unintentional (God I hope) message seems to be "some people are just too damn weird for this world, and they're better off not having to live in it"... thanks for that, Tim.

"because of all of the 'tism" whew, i felt that one sis

Oooh, this one went some places! 😏 There is something particularly painful about outgrowing Burton. His early stuff is catnip for weird kids, and for a very long time he was one of the only creators that seemed to get us. And then you grow up, and you’re still weird but you evolved and he… didn’t. And it’s sad and can leave you feeling a little adrift. But as was argued here we have other choices to fill that space at least. Or everything in your place is currently covered ‘Alice in Wonderland’ merch and you just don’t want to be saved

Okay... listen. The "Booooooo F**k off!" really got me. 🤣💀🤣💀😂💀🤣

Woke up tired. Had a tiring day. Get home tired. See a new video by one of my favorite channels! Today is a good day.

Take Victor away, or minimize his part in order to focus on Emily and Victoria, and you have a potential story about two women in the Victorian England times, dealing with the concept of marriage, their roles in this institution, their own desires and search for autonomy and personal fulfillment, the meaning of beauty and ugliness and much more. Heck, you can even keep Barkis and roll with him if you gave him a more personal connection to Emily that had something leading back to her. Like him seeing women as trophies and setting beyond impossible standards of who is worth marrying him and if someone was to do something he would judge wrong, the punishments would be severe. Maybe Emily could be a very charismatic lady when she was alive and got too much attention from-not just men-but also people in general, overshadowing Barkis, who would resort to killing her out of envy. Or have a twisted case of Emily being the beauty trying to love the beast (Barkis) in the past (despite everyone warning her not to get involved with him), only to end up killed, and see herself turning into the "beast" who needed to find her own "beauty" (not just in another partner, but in her worth as well). Looking to gain money would also work as a villainous motive for Barkis, but going beyond that would put the focus back on Emily herself and explain why her self worth was so wounded. Victoria can have her arch that was already in the original film, but maybe have some more chemistry and plot-lines with Emily. So much potential, just with Victor out of the clay motion picture.

You: "They're the exact. Same. Length!" You and me, in unison: "What the hell?!"

Honestly, I grew up with a variety of perspectives all around me, and what I didn't have I searched for and tried to understand. In fact, I grew up moving from niche culture to niche culture, from friend group to friend group, constantly making new acquaintances to new acquaintances and looking at as much stuff as I could. That being said, I do not know what to say about Tim Burton's small world and his regressive growth except that it honestly scares me more than anything else in the world, and I want to someday make something that details precisely why it scares me as much as it does. Maybe it's the fact that I could see myself, or that I am seeing myself, one bad day from slipping into his dark fantasy world, and after I've realized that countless times, I'm scared to leave it for one reason or another. I hope that when I make my 3 part film series with a game in the middle of it I can show everyone that the sooner you are done and ready to bury the past and move on to better things, the better for everyone and everything involved, especially yourself. The best that Tim Burton is capable of doing because he is not going to look back at his life and evaluate himself to move on and be a better person, is just retiring. Unfortunately, I get the feeling he will not stop and so he's nothing more than a zombie, a relic of a bygone dreamy era that never was and seems to never be. As C!Wilbur Soot once put it in the Dream SMP, "It was never meant to be." Actually, do you think that Burton's worldview rubbed off on Disney and other studios like them to create a sense of complacency in how studios like Marvel, DC, and Lucasfilms do their movies? Do you think that Tim Burton, in his "attempt to shake up the status quo" or carve out his own niche in the system, with his multitude of successes, accidentally created a toxic consumerist society within those studios and changed the entire mindset for those studios for the worst? I'm not saying that he caused it single-handedly though, I mean the bad times were going to come anyway whether or not he existed, I'm saying that he just grew the perfect environment to normalize the behavior of his archetype of characters and made people complacent with the status quo as long as it can be colored in a snazzy new coat of paint?

30:30 If Emily has a self-imposed curse, and Victoria is a lot like Emily, doesn’t that mean Vicky also has a self-imposed curse that needs to be broken? *EDIT* 33:50 Oh cool you're bringing it up!

Somehow this is an hour long but felt so much shorter and was so hella engaging. Kind of sad there's not more.

Im going to be honest im glad this channel is still going espically when that lupin the 3rd video were great

INCREDIBLY entertaining and well made video. There were multiple moments throughout watching this where I was just like "YES!! OH MY GOD YES!!" Particularly with that Corpse Bride/Urusei Yatsura comparison. I don't know how I never realized that until now 😆

This video made me cry. Good job, you’re one of the most inspiring artists to me on this platform, bless you.

so good. so so so so good. i've had a weird kooky offput feeling from tim burton films entering adulthood, but they all existed as weird abstracts and "vibes" in my heart. you gave those abstracts a rich vocabulary, mountains of context, and sense in structure. you are a fantastic writer. i loved this.

Around 2008 I tried to create an April Fools prank that Burton was planning on doing a dark Burtonesque version of Gilligan’s Island, with Johnny Depp as Thurston Howell III, and Helena Bonham Carter as Lovey Howell. Unfortunately I lacked the connections to get it into the Trades.

Love this so much! My joyous moment was during the Corpse Bride segment. I also never thought that film was v good, even when i lived among the Burtonheads. It blows my mind to see how Tim's grace for weirdos only seems to apply to sadboys, not girls. A little too common an experience for weirdo girls to get rejected by the same weirdo boys who say they're lonely. It's a great observation too, how Jack is Sally's reward, without taking away from his character! The romantic appeal of that movie is how Jack transforms and Sally gets her happy ending. I have a big soft spot for Burton's romantic nature, but I'm wondering now if his portrayal of women in coprse bride is what left me feeling on the outside. What's with weirdo sadgirls having to disappear or go away for everyone to be happy, lol? It's like no matter what, the girl must be willing to sacrifice for the guy to the very end if she's to have any virtue. It'd be nice if the difficult girl (a jack figure) got a guy who was willing to cross the difficult divide for her no matter the cost to him. The sadness of that movie is how Victor was so reluctant to love her... I wanted to be mature about it, but it is validating to see how things never had to be so mature and wish-unfulfilling when the monster in question is... the boy Tim-proxy. 😔 Lastly the comment that pain doesn't need to go away for us to grow, that's super powerful and wise. I can't wait to share that with my family. It's relevant to our lives rn. I'm grateful for it!

I can't stress enough how much the ammount of great jazz that goes on in the background adds to these videos they're like free feature lenght movies I don't deserve to see and I love it.

I feel like Corpse Bride is in a similar situation as The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Whenever anyone expresses disappointment that Quasimodo didn't end up with Esmerelda, fans are quick to snap back with a Watsonian explanation; Quasimodo idealized her too much, Phoebus saw her for who she truly was, etc. But no-one steps back to look at it from a Doylist perspective and asks WHY a disabled, unattractive protagonist was written not to get the girl in the first place, in an era where that was the norm, no matter how justified it's made in the plot. I'd argue a similar phenomenon happens in the Corpse Bride fandom, where fans will say Emily didn't end up with Victor because "He loved Victoria" and "He would've been miserable" but not question WHY those story decisions were made in the first place, why a monstrous woman can't end up with the hero (especially since, as you've pointed out, it's very easy for Burton's male characters to be loved for their faults). And for the record, I love both films.

this video rang true in ways I hadn't expected. Although I never found myself drawn to Burton's work, seeing the amount of careful consideration you've scripted for this vid in regards to his stagnation of his personality and film career while reflecting on your personal growth is something I can empathize with. Also!! Thank you for making wonderful videos always.. they keep me sane while I work

i loved this so much! it’s really thoughtful and incisive. the way you tackled the character arcs in corpse bride was so good - gave me a lot to think about with my own writing! i also really felt it when you were talking about your high school experiences - i didn’t go to a performing arts school but i did go to catholic school and there was a lot of expectation for girls and boys to perform gender in very specific ways. as a closeted trans guy who hadn’t quite cracked his egg **and** undiagnosed autistic and adhd, just neurodivergent and queer as all hell in an environment that was supportive of neither, i also latched onto tim burton pretty hard for similar reasons. (i hope that’s not being too weird or gross or personal in the comment - i guess i just hope it helps you feel seen the way you talking about your experiences helped me, in a small way.) really beautifully done essay, wonderful surprise to hear the oddity roadshow crew, and definitely looking forward to whatever your next project may be. 😊

"That is a climax happening at someone" breaks a lot of the problems with modern film making down as a whole, not just as a personal problem Burton has as a writer, and I'm stealing it.

When you reached the Evangelion comparison I can’t believe I forgot I clicked on the video with the Neon Genesis Jack Skellington thumbnail

can NOT wait to watch this with my friends!!

For me, the Burton's career arc has a lot of parallels with his peers, specifically Robert Zemeckis. The early hits giving way to films that just feel like sloppy rehashes speaks to the decline that occurs when a director goes from cutting edge to mainstream success. I still love films by both directors, but have to admit that they aren't as deep or perfect as they seemed when I was younger.

I want "I'm starting to think you don't even want a big titty goth girthfriend, *Tim*!" on a t-shirt.

I know I'm doing the 'comment-before-you-watch' phopaw but I'm honestly excited to see your newest video here even if Tim Burton isn't an interest of mine... Though, I will admit, "Peewee's Big Adventure" is one of my all time favorites films ever made and arguably the director's best work though that may have more to do with an ensemble of talented minds before and affront of the camera. Watching the video now but please keep up the amazing work!

I’ve always had an issue with Tim Burton’s films even though I liked them on a surface level but after watching this video I have a better understanding of what those issues were which were a lack of substance or a lesson in his films. So in conclusion Guillermo del Toro > Tim Burton.

"Orson Welles: Kill him" made me spit my coffee. thank you for that. oh and thank you for being, like, the only other person who understands the plot of Phantom of the Opera. People who think its about a poor sad guy who didn't get the girl he "deserved" make me shudder.

this is a very good video. its kinda eye opening, and validates some opinions under the rug. my mother loves Tim Burton and I love superhero films, so when we watched the original batman movie he made, we were shockingly bored and disappointed, because batman and bruce Wayne don't feel like the main characters entirely. and we could live with it. gotta say, you put so much thought and time into this, it inspires me to think! 10/10

Unhinged Jordan moments are always the best part of ISP video essay's

This channel is the gift that keeps on giving

Fascinating essay. Not a huge Burton guy, but thoroughly enjoyed the video

Your writing is so incredible! Please keep this up. I wasn't even ever into Burton films but I watched this because of how great your Lupin videos were and I wasn't dissapointed. Thanks for these.

You know an analysis is good when it makes you analyze your own self and life choices. Bravo! Yay!

12:36 So basically, Jack Skellington was Randy Marsh in the afterlife?

This is such a beautiful video. I just wanted to say, even if you aren’t as widely successful as Tim Burton, your video has touched the hearts and minds of many people, you are talented and smart and what you have to say is important, and you are taking the initiative to teach yourself how to create- and create- beautiful videos. You’re doing so much. Thanks for being here

A wonderfully engaging and thoughtful analysis. Top notch work once again. You did a fantastic job putting into words a feeling I’ve had for a long time, so thank you for that. Excited to see what you do next!

Hello from cohost! Someone shared it over there and I'm glad I clicked on it bc it's a good take and a fresh breakdown of Burton's work/legacy in a way I haven't seen before. Good work :)

By God your essays are some of the most amazing stuff on youtube. As someone who watches hours upon hours of video essays yours really stand out. You will SURELY get big. I cant wait to be there where you finally get all the recognition you so so so deserve.

That Evangelion rant earned you a sub/bell ring/algorithm defiance. Looking forward to more from you!

You know, despite this not being a Lupin the Third video I somehow managed to be surprised when I didn't hear you say "I am never talking about Lupin the third ever again... This is a lie" at the end. I am gonna need some time to getting adjusted to that one xD At least you're always there for me squarespace sponsorship TwT

You know ur video essay is good when every comment is four lines long lol. This is very cool and a dope analysis.

Dropped everything to watch this which doesn’t mean that much because I wasnt doing anything but my god this was so good!! As usual!!!

great video, I love how passionate you sound. 51:08 and onward is a really great section. also just want to say that this video inspires me to diverse the perspectives in my art, thanks for being educational !

As someone who didn't grow up with Tim Burton, this is very interesting as an outsider looking in.

My favorite video essay youtube with two videos is now my favorite video essay youtuber with 3 videos 😢 They grow so fast...

6:16 The Barry clip totally took me off guard!! 😂 I’d love to hear your thoughts on the show, actually, if you have any

I was wondering how I hadn't heard of you before, then I realized you've only been doing this for a year!! You're making incredibly high-quality stuff for someone who's only been in the video essay game for a year or so. Can't wait to see all of your stuff as it comes out!

One of my favorite video essays in a while keep up the amazing work 😊

this is a really great video. it's super nuanced, but it doesn't pull any punches. you never disapoint :)

Super excited to delve into this one!

Let's fucking go! Another great video from _Infinite Snow Productions._ It sucks that your content doesn't have much more views, cause your _Mystery of Mamo_ video rapidly turned you into one of my favorite content creators in the web.

_"wake up babe, there's a new Infinite Snow Essay"_

This has become my favorite video essay ive listened to. So much energy, comedy and most importantly such a good spot-on critique of tim burtons filmography and character.

So happy to have found your channel, you deserve way more views!

I wasn't actually planning on watching this, but here I am at the hour mark, pausing throughout the first forty minutes to think and on the edge of my seat for the other twenty. Ten out of ten, would make myself late for an appointment watching it again. edit: Does anybody know what was meant by 'discrimination is the language of those who fear things as they're being questioned'?

I feel like this has quickly become one of my favorite video essays in recent memory, it's such a great analysis and take down of Tim's creative mindset and it really shows how his fall from grace was, maybe not inevitable, but hard for him to avoid having it happen

I just found this channel and it’s been nothing but a pleasant surprise. I can’t begin to get into it but the weird mental divorce a lot of fans have with Tim burton is so real and every point I’ve thought about it was wonderfully put in this video. Also great editing, it was pleasing and easy to follow 👍🏽

I love your videos, This is the second time I've watched this and I've watched the others a few times each, you make me laugh and consider things I never thought before and I enjoy hearing your voice. I look forward to seeing your next video and hearing the wonderful and intuitive thoughts you have.

Maybe I need to update my Tim Burton's catalogue, but from what I've gathered throughout almost all of his carreer, and by reflecting upon this video, is that only 5-to-6 characters nail to get along with their audience even after years (without taking in account Depp's acting skills). Like, Burton has one of the best Joker's out there, look how much time Beetlejuice actually was in his own movie, there's Emily who singlehandledly carried her own movie by a longshot, and there's the debate of if Jack and Sally are the only ones who can be belovedly remembered, or Oogie Boogie can fall upon that too. These characters (and maybe more if we scratch the barrel a little more) share three elements I consider the "outcasts" of his overall work. They embrace weirdness both in their own and in others, they enjoy what they are and what is around them, and they doesn't need to betray their morals to reach their director's tendencies. Joker, Oogie Boogie and Beetlejuice are a certain villain trope, but it doesn't make it less joyful to watch, while you can feel Jack and Sally enjoying their own story even with all the f*ck-ups they did (well, mainly Jack), and again, Emily was so alive for her own good that Burton and the producers had to vastly "nerf" her closing arc. In terms of Evangelion, you could say that these characters were the ending of the anime, with a bombastic "congratulations!" of the audience upon all these characters (and maybe the dog, becuase of course), while everything else this video had unfold is the grim ending of the movie. One couldn't exist within another, after all.

this scratched my itch for a good video essay so well! amazing as always

This is such a great video!

it's really heartening to know that despite all the unresolved issues I have in my life, in my time on this earth, I have made exponentially more personal growth and become a better person than tim burton has had in twice as many years

Yo wake up! A new Infinite Snow video!

Bless you for this one.

I really appreciate this video. It was very thought provoking.

This was really good. Can't wait for more. (No pressure)

Fantastic video, just found your channel, so good

Best KZfaq video I’ve seen in a long time

This was spectacular. I haven't really been able to enjoy a Burton movie to the same degree as I used to when I was a wee cringey teen (Oh God it hurts to think back to what I got up to back then), but this video really made things click together in a way I couldn't figure out on my own. It's not just that I grew up and changed, but that Burton didn't allow himself to grow up and it reflected in his art.

This was so phenomenally good. It was so cathartic to hear you describe the way you felt about Corpse Bride, it just really put my experience into words. Also, was not expecting to have such delicious Evangelion vindication there towards the end. I immediately went to your uploads to see if you had any vids on it. I'd honestly love to hear you talk at length about Evangelion, it's such a treasure and it hurts to see it recognised as a rubber halloween mask version of itself rather than by its true face... if that makes any sense. XD

This was such a good video, it really puts to words how I feel about Burton's work even better that I ever could. I loved Nightmare so so much as a kid and tween and just felt sort of betrayed as everything he put out after it failed to affect me. I guess it was all of the other people who made that film that made it so good in my eyes

Thank you for the video

Awesome video!

Thank you for this.

The reason I love corpse bride so much is just because it got me through a tough time so I thank it for at the very least that