Thanks to Tim for being so open in this conversation and thanks to you for watching. Love all the comments people are leaving. Per the intro you can find more about Tim plus links to mental health resources and references to topics discussed in the show notes on the episode page here: bit.ly/richroll770

Tim has always been ahead of the curve. I’ve learned so much from his content over the years and this discussion was spectacular. It’s clear he’s done and he’s doing the work to constantly evolve himself and thank you Rich for being such a thoughtful interviewer. I always learn from you as well! beyond blessed to have access to this information into be able to call you both friends as well. Keep going!

Psychedelics definitely have the potential to deal with mental health issues like anxiety and depression, they really helped me.

There's nothing more refreshing than seeing Tim talking about "transcending productivity".

This is exactly what I've been needing to hear. I think I've followed too many personalities on hustle culture and noticed that most of them are in their 20s or early 30s. It's honestly caused fatigue. I love that we have more influential voices showing us the journey from thriving outward but also cultivating inner awareness. Thank you for this!

I’m a digital nomad today because of Tim Ferris’ book “4 Hour Workweek” 20 years ago ~! ❤

0:08: 🧠 The speaker discusses their journey of self-discovery and healing, including a childhood trauma and its impact on their life. 11:14: 💡 The speaker reflects on the impact of their hyper-analytical thinking toolkit and how it has shaped their journey, while also discussing the importance of vulnerability and sharing personal struggles. 20:36: 💡 The speaker reflects on the importance of addressing trauma and cultivating self-love, suggesting that engaging with these issues is more likely when one realizes the limitations of external achievements and recognizes the need for inner growth. 30:32: 💡 Having hope is important in overcoming shame and taking meaningful action in addressing personal issues. 39:41: 🔑 The speaker discusses the importance of maintaining hope and finding ways to work with their inner critic, despite feeling broken and hopeless for many years. They emphasize the need for purpose and the ability to change one's interior experience. Journaling and asking oneself what they are unwilling to feel are helpful tools. 57:57: 💡 The speaker discusses their interest in psychedelics and their potential benefits for hyper rigidity, as well as their personal experiences and observations. 1:00:01: 🧠 The speaker shares their personal journey with psychedelic experiences, including the positive effects and a dangerous encounter, leading them to research and invest in the field. 1:10:17: 🌱 The speaker discusses the need for responsible regulation and oversight of psychedelic compounds and cannabis due to their potential risks and adverse effects. 1:20:17: ⚠ The speaker discusses the challenges of implementing therapy with psychedelic compounds at scale and the importance of therapist training and personal experience. 1:29:50: 💡 The speaker discusses the importance of qualified supervision and rehabilitation after using certain compounds, the exciting research in imaging and new molecules, and the potential benefits of group therapy and integration. 1:39:51: 🎙 The speaker discusses the negative impact of social media algorithms and the importance of prioritizing personal well-being over financial gain in podcasting. 1:52:38: 🎮 The speaker discusses the process of selecting guests for the podcast and the intentionality behind it, as well as the importance of having a clear purpose and value proposition in influencing others. 1:57:56: 🎙 The speaker discusses the importance of having novel conversations that bring something valuable to the audience, the significance of scientific literacy, and the need to optimize mental health and social time. 2:06:57: 📚 The speaker enjoys looking back at their past and finds it to be a form of diary. Recap by Tammy AI

Just by the title this sounds refreshing as opposed to hard hustle content that has plagued my feed lol. Can't wait to listen.

In terms of harm reduction I offer this as a woman in her mid 60s who grew up in the San Francisco Bay area and married a Berkeley guy who ended up being just a rager and on all fronts. A party boy at heart but also a serial wife-beater, baby shaker; phony who loved all manners of drugs as well as psychedelics, and thought of himself as a shaman. He had quite the messiah complex and ended up after several arrests and breakups and getting a teenager pregnant at 50 years old, all moved in on CIIS (above board and underground) to get buy of all things a Marriage and Family Counseling license. When he died his handle was "educator" as if. He became the headmaster's favorite trippin buddy who he paid my child support to, to make it look like he was legitimately working on himself when he was actively and geavily using and dragging everybody that didn't give him what he wanted to court when he wasn't drugging them willy-nilly, using adult child support from his enabling mother. He had the audacity to tell me that his favorite part of the job was going to small retreats with vulnerable female "clients" and dosing them with MDMA then sexually assaulting them... I mean healing them wink-wink-nudge-nudge. These rappey dudes are everywhere in psychedelics and always have been like yoga and meditation... hollywood/n.y., your daughters' college, and you might want to talk to Rick Doblin (but better Dave Nickols) all about how these kinds of guys even the ones that speak at conferences and where they predate as well, Burning Man, Peru; IN THERAPY,, about their cover-ups. Classic charlatans use these substances as date-rape drugs. Beware.

It’s like I am watching Tim grow up who helped me grow up when I discovered him 9 years ago. And now THIS KINDA VULNERABLE talk is showing me direction since here’s exactly where I am stuck.

Trauma and the Soul by Donald Kalsched - "Trauma is injury to the capacity to feel." Thank you Tim for sharing!

I did psilocybin (5g+) in my early 20s and it essentially cured most of my mental issues stemming from childhood trauma. Toughest experience in my life, while also the most beautiful. I call it a chemical enlightenment, because that's exactly what it felt like. I know this topic is getting beat to death, but it's not unwarranted.

So interesting that he was so depressed and yet still confident enough to tell others how to live their life in a better way

few years ago I was literally saved by Tim recommending Radical Acceptance. That started my long journey to the recovery from a very deep depression. Still feeling this gratitude for that old podcast where Tim shared his story and mentioned this book. Much love to both of you ❤

50:15 -> that is the point! No mind is empty. Look at your thoughts, look at the attached ideas and emotions. Detach your ideas and emotions. Let the pictures come and go. That's the flow!

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:08 🎯 Tim Ferriss discusses productivity, mental health, and new modalities. 01:07 💡 Tim opens up about lifelong struggles with major depressive episodes. 03:37 💔 Tim shares a challenging experience during a silent meditation retreat. 11:12 🧩 Tim realizes the connection between various problems and underlying trauma. 14:53 ❤️ Tim emphasizes vulnerability's power in connecting with others. 18:08 🔗 Tim values real-time conversations in podcasts for empathy. 21:35 ☎️ Tim provides resources and support for mental health and trauma. 23:51 💪 Tim commits to self-love during a book launch period. 24:46 🎯 Tim discusses workaholism and perfectionism as avoidant tendencies. 26:10 🤔 Tim reflects on early engagement in practices like meditation. 27:47 🌱 Recognizing blind spots is essential for inner growth. 29:00 💡 Seeking professional help is crucial for mental health challenges. 31:31 🚦 Tim cautions against ego-driven vulnerability. 34:20 🧠 Tim debunks the misconception of being "broken." 37:40 🏃‍♂️ Exercise is vital for Tim's mental well-being. 38:10 💔 Emphasizing hope over hopelessness when dealing with trauma. 45:13 🧘‍♂️ Meditation increases self-awareness and manages inner dialogue. 46:05 😔 Tim acknowledges tough days in mental health work. 47:39 🔑 Tara Brach's quote sparks inner growth and acceptance. 48:32 🌱 Tim's interest in mental health, psychology, and psychedelics. 49:27 📚 Impactful books and the "Waking Up" meditation app. 50:49 😴 Sleep's importance for productivity and well-being. 52:11 🚀 Psychedelic-assisted therapy's transformative potential. 54:02 🚧 Caution and responsibility in psychedelic use. 58:34 🔍 Funding psychedelic research and preserving knowledge. 01:09:19 🚨 Tim's concerns about mainstreaming psychedelics. 01:12:44 🔬 Tim discusses psychedelic compounds and reshaping beliefs. 01:13:25 ⚠️ Acknowledging adverse events and responsible use. 01:16:05 🏢 Regulatory oversight and therapist training. 01:19:04 🎓 Developing curricula for psychedelic therapy. 01:22:28 🧪 Understanding different psychedelics and group therapy. 01:26:09 🌐 Progress and challenges in psychedelic research. 01:33:23 💡 Tim's approach to content creation and influence. 01:36:01 🎙️ Reflecting on Tim's podcast journey and caution with new platforms. 01:37:24 🎙️ Tim's identity as a writer and intentionality with labels. 01:39:19 📈 Many creators prioritize growth over meaningful content. 01:40:25 📱 Cautiously approaching social apps and mental health impact. 01:41:34 🎯 Identifying the "what" and "why" of influence. 01:45:03 🎙️ Podcasting with curiosity and meaningful content. 01:56:13 🎙️ Creating Evergreen content and stepping away from constant promotion. 01:57:10 🎙️ Tim Ferriss prefers guests who offer unique insights rather than those heavily promoting their work on multiple podcasts. 01:59:24 🧠 Scientific literacy is crucial in the age of AI-generated disinformation. 02:01:57 📚 Tim appreciates poetry and values social time and mental health. 02:04:29 🚶 Tim shifts his perspective to embrace diverse perspectives. Made with HARPA AI

Rich people complaining about how hard life is when you’re rich. How refreshing.

Tim’s ability to stay curious (open) and challenge himself through life’s trials and errors is inspiring.

Thank goodness that Tim got in touch with his humanness!!!!!

I just noticed Rich has now reached a million subscribers! Yes, that’s definitely a business! Well done Rich and crew!! 🎉🎉🎉

This is an important episode. I bought all of Tim's books and often felt like I wasn't good enough because I could never apply them and execute like Tim. Now I know that Tim was never an idol or someone to put on a pedestal, only human.

Appreciate so much that someone like Tim is finally appealed how important FEELING is. It’s one of the sources for not only becoming whole as a person but also a way to becoming more empathetic and compassionate to others.

Two of the greatest podcasters of all time sitting across from each other. What a special moment.

It's incredible what Tim has achieved while being handicapped by 3-4 depressive episodes a year for a large part of his adult life.

Extended experiential lifespan.. discovering time is not linear. Living a richer, more present life where at times it as if it is my first day on eartth. Treasures are hiding or rather ignored in the 'mundane' My cup overflows💕

Tim Ferriss and 1Mil Subs in the same week? Hell yes! Love to see you finally surpassed 1Mil Rich. Something about that number and all the work you've done made my day. Huge congrats!

Respected Tim, I have just read ur book, 4 hours work week. Competency is a modern term. In the past, it was sincere service. Corporate world has turned it into competence. My prophet Muhammad has always championed service; that’s why he is still in the hearts after 14.5 centuries.

What Tim is talking about re: his life’s challenges are common, one doesn’t have to have sexual abuse when they were 2-4. Although that’s horrible, we’re all affected by growing up from parents, trauma (like for me my father passing at 16), siblings, school, natural tendencies, etc. Rich Roll recently interviewed Dr Richard Schwartz of IFS-to me, that’s the answer in and out of a therapist’s office.

Ketamine has improved everything about me. It rewired my brain, starting with the first dose. I no longer get hooked into repetitive thinking. I sleep better. Low dose and under medical supervision

God bless Tim Ferris and give him all the peace and grace that only a higher power can give. We love and RESPECT you, Tim. You have changed millions of lives in ways that you can never imagine. You are a blessing to humanity.

This is such a powerful , authentic and inspiring conversation! We have all learned so much from Tim over the years and really appreciate his contribution to mankind. Thank you both for this video . ❤

I can’t express how devastating to mental and physical health child sexual abuse is for a large number of people.It’s so devastating because the older you get the more you understand how cruel it is and the more you wish you could do something.I pray I never have to leave any kids i have with anyone (beside my sister or a trusted friend who looks after them alone with no other kids,relatives in the home).I’m willing to accept being poorer to save them from that.I’d rather come across over zealous than to be complacent or too trusting and have a lapse in judgement.

So powerful. I love how thoughtfully and humbly Tim is making waves in the psychedelic therapy space. A dear friend of mine took his own life after a bout of self-medicating with ketamine. He was trying to replace alcohol with ketamine and had no real support system in place to do so. You have both done a huge service by talking about the good, the bad and the ugly. Thank you 🙏

No great interviewee without great interviewer. Gratitude to Rich Roll for creating such wide deep space for Tim to express his truths. I dream of a conversation between Tim Ferris and Bob Boman, Michael Phelps' legendary coach on living unoptimized

This feels like two Vulcans having a conversation. So guarded, preemptive, qualified, and emotionally muted. Fascinating.

I think this is my favourite Tim interview ever. So unique and open. Thank you

YES! Sounds like he's embracing and cultivating his feminine essence as to balance out the masculine behaviour of the last years. By the way nothing wrong with it, but too much of one thing makes us unbalanced within ourselves. And Rich congratulations on the not important & so well deserved million. Thank you for this! Tim & Rich 😍🥰

My guys! Been listening to Tim for a LONG time and picked up on Rich about three years ago. Super GRATEFUL for each. “Inception level intention”… Give me another hour or two of conversation after your hike together. And stoked for Rich hitting 1 mil. Well done!

"You are the solution to your problem"!

Thank you for this. I resonated with "How Tim found out that his 17 problems became just ONE"

Wow. Less than 5 minutes in and I’m intrigued. Both of these men a great.

I so appreciate you, Rich! You are such an incredible man. Both of you are! It is so beautiful to watch you both grow right in front of our eyes. Thank you so very much for sharing your amazing journeys. Thank you for being what Timothy Leary called the 'Outlaws'---those renegade cells that push the envelope, blaze the trail for others to follow more easily. I began this journey when I was 17 year old unwed mother and was granted a work scholarship at Esalen Institute in 1969 and it changed my entire life, including working with Timothy Leary for an entire summer producing his first Computer/Brain/Consciousness workshop in Santa Monica decades later......Life is such an amazing journey!

I agree that regulation is an important element of safe establishment and distributions of plant medicine. However, gratitude and reverence needs to be given to the many who have propagated these healing modalities in the liminal spaces. Would this moment even be here without unregulated practice? It's just like they say in ceremony - integration. How do we integrate the chaos and wisdom of the past with the engineering and evolving of the future? I believe it can be done! Wonderful interview!

Superb episode. Wish all podcasts were like this - believable, relatable, enjoyable, insightful and helpful.

I had repeated thoughts of a specific abuse from childhood until I experienced a religious dream reframing the abuse as Mother Mary protecting me from the abuser. I cried. I healed. I only recognized her as a woman in a blue veil until a few days later. Then I realized I hd dreamed in color of Leonardo Davinci's sculpture (and paintings of) La Pieta only I was being held. I have not had that dream since and have been healed from the trauma. No drugs, no fasting, no meditation.

I used to find Tim Ferris arrogant, but this conversation helped me to see him in a new light, a more humble and human one that has really been enjoyable. Thank you.

18:49. This is our time in history for ultimate authenticity and that’s pretty much all there is to it.

Tim is superhuman and so powerful mindset !Love his super intelligence brain!

BJ Miller is a wonderful inspiration. First introduced to him via Zen Hospice in San Francisco.

Sounds like a growth in maturity. Humans aren't robots to be "optimised". Living "optimised" all the time is going to burn anyone out long term. Optimising in order to achieve certain short or medium term objectives is fine if done properly, but long term there needs to be a balance of some sort or you're going to crash hard at some point.

Absolutely love your podcasts Rich Congratulations on reaching 1 million subscribers.

Childhood sexual trauma being the cause of mental health issues is terrible. It’s more of us than we think. 😮 I was also diagnosed as bipolar few years back and medicine and therapy hasn’t helped too much but pushing through. 🙌🏾

‘I am broke and nothing will fix it.’ This kind of hopelessness has plagued me my whole life. I think hopelessness is the core of depression. So powerful. Thanks Tim.

Ferriss is a great dude

~To my fave two gents~🌱✌🌱~KEEP GROWING~🌿🌈🌿

Principles over personalities. Instead of dwindling over the centuries number of principalities only. In which the chaos and death reining called war often breaks out.

12 step approach: little known hustory iof Blls getting sober and embarking on his journey of sobriety: in hisputal, his therapy was conducted using psychedelic therapy. That opened his perspective. In startung AA, he wanted to address this but others felt it would not be in alignment with the 12 step principles so he agreed to leave that part out.

Congrats on 1M Rich!!🥳👏 And what a great guest to have on at this milestone✌🌱

Great podcast, I really appreciate the tools talked about on here!

Cannot wait to listen to this ! Thanks Rich

Needed this. Thank you for the authenticity

Love hearing these guys talk. So thoughtful.

I love that Tim is aging gracefully, becoming Jason Stratham like a bad ass looking dude but he sounds and his style is exactly the same from 10+ years ago! 😂 かっこいいっす👍 沢山の人に役立つ事を共有してくれてありがとうございます🙏

Me too. I am not broken and I will never be finished learning and expanding my edges and my limits every day. Also I don’t want to do psychedelics. Meditation is the speed I can just about handle.

What an episode! so much respect and admiration for both of you.

I have been waiting for this!!! Thank you!!!

Good morning Tim Ferris 🌞

you rock Rich! thanks for opening the space for Tim! this is some deep space I haven't seen Tim reach in any other podcast, and I've only watched 5 minutes of it as I'm typing it! hahahaha I love Tim, consume everything he does for 10 years already. keep rocking guys! 👊🏼🙏🏼💜

Blessings on blesssings…thank you both. I love you so much. Feeling so nice listening to you talk.

Love Tim's life journey and that he is sharing it with us 🙏

I resonated with this so much in the first 15 minutes.

Great podcast from great podcasters , thanks

Rich thanks for having Tim. You both are originals in a crowded space. Much love to you both.

Thanks @timferriss for sharing your journey. So helpful! We all have things locked away in compartments. You are shaping and influencing how our generation handles trauma. Thanks Tim!

Thank you both for this interview!

Tim you are amazing❤

I remember exactly where I was when I heard the Terry Cruz episode. I waa working overnight in a grocery store and I remember having to go to the restroom for a few minutes because of how emotional it was. Didn't want to be tearing up during work. That was very early in my "podcast journey" and it wss very impactful. Fortunately I have not faced any similar traumatic events but it really made me see things in a different light since.

Like that retro Covid seating arrangement.

Great Podcast, thank you, Rich Roll. Tim Ferris you are an amazing human. Thank you thank you, by God's grace ,I never experienced childhood sexual abuse, but I know so many who did. Your voice, and thoughts will help so many❤

Rich. Congratulations on the 1Million. You deserve everything. Thank you for everything. I hope your podcast reaches millions and millions more. I’m truly inspired by the way you articulate things, how smart you are, how great your interviewing skills are, and just the man you are. Love you Rich. Thank you thank you for existing. You deserve all the love. @richroll

He’s so sweet 🙏🤍⭐️

Excited for this episode

Thank you for going everywhere you all did, and especially about the over saturation of communities in psychedelics and podcasting. It certainly obvious and old to see them same authors on all the same podcasts doing their circuits.

This was interesting and fascinating and informative and seeds that I don’t have words for yet. Thank you for sharing! ❤ May we all get to a good, purposeful feeling!

Congrats on 1m rich! In my mind you had already far surpassed that. Peace love plants !🥦

Tim Ferriss is an amazing person and an inspiration. Hope he publishes a new book about the healing journey he has been on.

Love this conversation! and also want to shout out your point about mixing up the episodes with some lighter fare and good conversations. Like yours with Adam, Rich. Hope to see some RollBack content soon.

This particular episode is filled completely with nuggets of absolute gold. I will need to watch this again and again to absorb it all.

I’ve seen a number of talks over the years of Tim and he seems the most genuine and at peace with himself than ever… And that’s nice to see.

Learning to relax and enjoy the journey after being goal focused was a long learning experience.

Appreciate the emphasis on clinical support and supervision for these treatments. I do hope that this might provide an option for a hard to reach group of people who desperately need support: First Responders and military. The culture of grit and push through helps in their work but is detrimental to their real lives.

Two of the most influential voices in my life from books and podcasts since 2011 for me, great podcast thanks guys 🙏 If you have me on Rich, I’ll make sure your podcast comes out first 😉

Just amaaaazing ... thank you both so much for this inspiring & informative discussion🙏🙏

Awesome as always

Get rid of facebook, instagram, and whatever else you post on. Then you will realise how much you do in your life just for a post, or for validation, or to portray someone you think people will like or want to be. It's liberating when you realise you can stop trying to prove yourself to everyone else through a platform that feeds on our feeling of worthlessness and competitiveness.

Thank you both for this conversation. On my own healing journey, I appreciate your honest sharing of personal experiences.

As usual, Tim, you are constantly over delivering on the promise. My kids suffer as did my ex, I always share these episodes with them. I remember a mention of a book on this topic… no pressure. The podcasts and long form articles are the best🤗

BEAUTIFUL MESSENGER ❤️ 👏

Another incredibly substantial discussion. This was a welcome dialogue to hear.

Many thanks for this. As someone who has struggled with suicide and ideation I found this genuinely moving. Many thanks to you both.