How to Thrive in an AI World, Tips for Life’s Darkest Hours, & The Art of Sabbaticals (4K)

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Show notes and resources from this interview with Matt Mullenweg: tim.blog/2023/12/29/matt-mull...
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Matt Mullenweg (@photomatt) is co-founder of the open-source publishing platform WordPress, which now powers over 40 percent of all sites on the web. He is the founder and CEO of Automattic, the company behind WordPress.com, WooCommerce, Tumblr, WPVIP, Day One, Texts, and Pocket Casts. Additionally, Matt runs Audrey Capital, an investment and research company. He has been recognized for his leadership by Forbes, Bloomberg Businessweek, Inc., TechCrunch, Fortune, Fast Company, Wired, University Philosophical Society, and Vanity Fair.
Matt is originally from Houston, Texas, where he attended the High School for the Performing and Visual Arts and studied jazz saxophone. In his spare time, Matt is an avid photographer. He currently splits his time between Houston and San Francisco.
Please enjoy this interview with Matt Mullenweg!
[00:00] Start
[00:14] The Argentine Dr. Mullenweg.
[03:23] Open source.
[05:35] Secret hiring.
[08:24] Matt is always on tour.
[10:45] Texts.
[13:15] How Matt chooses his next project(s).
[17:38] Building a digital Berkshire Hathaway.
[25:05] Why Matt’s excited about messaging.
[28:16] How Matt discovers companies he buys.
[29:06] RIP, Charlie Munger.
[29:40] Worthy rereads.
[32:24] My reflections on blogging, writing, and podcasting.
[44:51] Tyler Cowen’s inimitable style.
[45:40] Matt’s high school economics competition.
[53:26] Cables.
[54:23] AI spellcasting and community.
[57:45] Developments that will amaze the future.
[1:01:42] AI-proofing jobs.
[1:04:26] Why Matt’s optimistic about future generations.
[1:09:16] Data Liberation Front.
[1:11:30] More open app stores.
[1:16:33] Invisible tools (and weapons) of competition.
[1:21:36] Online security advice for the layman.
[1:24:25] WordCamp Asia.
[1:30:16] Taking a sa-Matt-ical.
[1:44:27] Rethinking nuclear energy.
[1:46:42] Rethinking psychedelics risks.
[1:57:40] Rethinking breathwork.
[2:01:51] Coping with depression.
[2:15:47] Rethinking TikTok.
[2:17:21] Blogging: absurd and beautiful.
[2:19:34] Rethinking Vienna sausages.
[2:20:52] Pocket ranch.
[2:22:32] Answering ancient emails.
[2:23:44] The curse of the ultra-critical eye.
[2:27:07] Rethinking meditation.
[2:30:08] Bacterial dentistry.
[2:33:57] Pocket party.
[2:34:47] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 900 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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@timferriss 6 ай бұрын

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@nehasinha 6 ай бұрын

What an incredible way to close out 2023, with your BFFs Matt and Kevin (Rose) Tim and his friends drinking and talking really makes the hours fly by

@makiseluv 6 ай бұрын

What a surreal episode, thank you both for your insights and achievements. Can't wait to rewatch!!

@altschoollife9026 6 ай бұрын

What a lovely man. Didn’t know nothing about him but he interviews really well.

@joryiansmith 6 ай бұрын

This was a wonderful conversation! thank you Matt and Tim 🙏

@mattshubat 6 ай бұрын

Great conversation! I love listening to Matt and Tim catchup, such great insights and perspectives.

@ryandury 6 ай бұрын

I've always enjoyed listening to you, and Matt. Together it's a bonus.

@mg-vn8so 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this interview! Feeling optimistic 😎

@knoworiginality 6 ай бұрын

The convergence of my interests are amazing. Thanks Tim!

@LivingProcess 6 ай бұрын

Brilliant as always

@alexanderantillano 3 ай бұрын

Loving the video format. Been listening for so long it makes me wonder what some of the early episodes would've looked like in video format. Cheers.

@AtariKafa 6 ай бұрын

great talk good thing matt taking a long holiday he needed for a long time

@MrCdn613 4 ай бұрын

These two together is always a gem to listen to! Honestly you could cut this video into 5 minute bits and each segment would have value, so great!

@videowatching9576 6 ай бұрын

Fascinating to hear Matt’s optimism for ai including the potential for vast capabilities improvements over these next couple of years including for helping to resolve customer service, while still acknowledging that existing customer service bots are not useful enough.

@PedroSilvaSantos 6 ай бұрын

What a great conversation! 🙏😉

@theindianhindu1458 6 ай бұрын

I'm about to board a 3 hour long flight. Just downloaded the video. Excited to listen to it.

@romanmenyhart 6 ай бұрын

Being one of the episode 1 listeners from long time ago and for the first time seeing Tim's podcast on video, not just listening, has me pondering how else Tim's excellent content delivery will develop--yes, including his old content. For starters, tech and AI will enable dubbing in multiple languages, voices, and styles, making it accessible to an even broader audience at a fraction of the traditional cost. Pretty mind-blowing!

@christopherarmstrong2710 5 ай бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1875">31:15</a> Paul Graham acceleration of addictiveness, How to do great work. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3390">56:30</a> Twitter: a lot of the top researchers have "alts" or alternative accounts - which tend to be smaller, where they link to a lot of scientific papers. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="86">1:26</a>:20 Tim's travels to East Asia: Japan, China, Taiwan, Seoul Korea. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="103">1:43</a>:30 Will Durant _Fallen Leaves_ quote. "Happiness is in making things, rather than consuming them." <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="137">2:17</a>:00 TikTok

@Lori_C 5 ай бұрын

Funny to hear Tim's anecdote about his "homestay" in Taiwan and discovering the bed was as he called it a wooden surface. I have good memories of sharing this type of traditional bed with my grandma when I visited Taiwan in the 90s. Definitely funny to hear his Western perspective on it.

@sisi74 6 ай бұрын

A message for Tim: There is a point in this interview at which you mention AI as a potential threat in terms of being able to help with the formulation of questions in your style and thus creating true competitors. (Forgive my terrible paraphrasing - I listened on my podcast app and couldn’t remember at which time stamp you said that.) However, (imho) there are two things about your interviews that can’t be copied or artificially manufactured. 1) You ask follow-up questions like nobody else. 2) You have a certain humility and way of connecting with people, which is hard to emulate. In other words - I’m not worried. Not that my opinion matters lol. But, I’ve listened to your podcast since the beginning , … back in the days when I still had to explain to people what a podcast is ;) - I figured, it’s time to send an accolade at least once. Your interviews with all these amazing guests have leveled up my life in so many ways and I tell people - if there were only one podcast you could listen to - it should be the Tim Ferriss show. (Unless you just want to laugh, then make it WWDTM*). Keep it up! 💪 * Wait Wait, Don’t Tell Me

@sarahsiegelnw 4 ай бұрын

I feel like the points made by both seem to boil down to this, for me: AI will not 100% replace original thought and creativity in its truest form. I have no interest in listening to an AI chatbot's podcast because it has nothing of value to add to any genuine conversation. What AI should be used for is a tool to automate the boring, easily replicable tasks. For instance: does a human being *need* to produce show notes or transcripts? No. You still need someone to look them over for accuracy, but that frees up a ton of time. The risk is to people who aren't bringing anything original to the table. But the fact that both men embrace AI but see value in blogging says a lot, to me, about what they feel the uses and limitations are.

@riazr88 6 ай бұрын

Damn this man has great vibes.

@michellemonet4358 6 ай бұрын

He does 😂😂

@westfield90 6 ай бұрын

Stunning how success seems to come so naturally to some people. My job will be eliminated by AI this year and I’m scared and stressed to death even though I know it’s overdue that I should have confidence in my abilities and that I will find another job.

@DavidBreckheimer 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely great conversation. I love hearing about all the geeky tech side, but I really found value in the conversation around taking a sabbatical. ✌️😎 Thank you.

@West996 6 ай бұрын

I am someone who took psychedelics, largely due to how Tim and Sam Harris talked about it back in 2019 and had a harrowing experience. It took me years to recover. This was fully my fault, however it is good to see Tim talking about psychedelics with this amount of caution. I did not feel this kind of vibe back then.

@djcardwell 6 ай бұрын

Tim LOVES the word anecdote

@ryandury 6 ай бұрын

The really cool thing about open source is that it runs counter to the notion of having some trade secret or IP that keeps you competitive. Open source disregards that idea while still finding ways to stand out and be profitable.

@calista1280 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, because it's invasive spyware!!!

@calista1280 6 ай бұрын

Wikipedia censors the information, so it's all politically correct and devoid of hard facts and reality. Further brainwashing the gullible amongst us into nelieving communist ideals are good for society. I'm pretty sure the chinese people would disagree...

@vivekbambhai 6 ай бұрын

Next video welcome to Naval Ravikant 🙏🏾

@WasabiJones 3 ай бұрын

Naval said he doesnt do many interviews

@julieflei 4 ай бұрын

Brilliant.

@user-sg5vc3bp6m 6 ай бұрын

One issue with blogs is access via phone, what would be interesting is a interactive experience with auto read ie blog post as audiobook with yes or no about accessing links in posts that are also audible

@Suitrags 5 ай бұрын

My way to tackle a plethora of open tabs is to send to 3 devices in level of importance. Laptop, iPhone, iPad. The stuff that needs attention stays on laptop, the tabs I would like to look at, someday, maybe never, I text to the iPad.

@scamponept 6 ай бұрын

Tim, in regards to what you should do next: do a lecture tour of the country with live, in person podcasting, taking questions from the audience. Maybe more of an intimate setting where the audience can eat and drink. Thanks for everything you do

@janedeuber1596 6 ай бұрын

I’ve taken a sabbatical after selling each of my 4 businesses over the course of 23 years and this conversation is of such interests to me. Each sabbatical was completely different based on where I was on my life path. Thank you for this conversation. It’s my favorite to date. Thanks for your big beautiful brain and heart, Tim. 🙏🏻 Thanks for being so transparent, Matt. Have an amazing sabbatical. Whatever the details, the outcome will be transformative.

@Baqsam 6 ай бұрын

Matt smiles a lot.

@isabellagallopp 4 ай бұрын

You should come back to Argentina 👀

@s4ltokyo 6 ай бұрын

Would love to connect with Matt during his sabbatical, how do I get a hold of him :P

@djcardwell 6 ай бұрын

Tim you should talk with Jaron Lanier and listen to why open source is hyper centralized and promotes monopoly more than anything.

@jennyfromthePod 6 ай бұрын

Matt recited a quote about being active in this episode and I cannot locate the quote now to write it down. Can anyone help? I've looked at notes, clips, and almost relistened to the whole episode.

@jeffbeamer9882 6 ай бұрын

Sadly I fell for Tim Ferris book recommendation of that dreadful Amanda Palmer book The Art of Asking so I'm forced to be dubious but I think I will give Zorba The Greek a try.

@eatingcleaner 6 ай бұрын

Maybe spend some time with a big firm lawyer to understand what he or she does every day. There is a lot AI can do to help us. But I don’t think AI will replace large firm lawyers. Legal Zoom has already replaced lawyers who generate printed forms.

@tuckerbugeater 6 ай бұрын

bought tumbler lulz

@JohnnyUtah269 6 ай бұрын

They look cousins

@dus10dnd 6 ай бұрын

Sorry, this entire USB-C thing... it isn't that important and was a stupid move for any government to even be concerned with. It is better to have USB-C? Perhaps at a low marginal level, sure. But if you're that hung up on it, you've got issues. With Qi charging, it is even far less of an issue than ever. Heck, I only kept a cable just in case there was an odd situation. I have Qi charging on my nightstand, I have Qi charging in my car, I have Qi charging at my desk, and I have a Qi charger power bank. I go overboard. And I have heard the complaints about Qi. You're either just wrong, or you've bought a horrible Qi charger. But now the iPhone 15 line is bulkier, in part, due to USB-C. And it isn't what you think. It is thicker in order to overcome the structural issues imposed by having a connector that is 2x the thickness. Cheap Android phones (think ZTE) consistently break near the USB-C port; the screen cracks, the frame breaks, etc. Lightning is better for applications where you're attempting to reduce the size of the device.

@djcardwell 6 ай бұрын

I'd rather listen to DHH

@djcardwell 6 ай бұрын

or Chris McCord