"...I carried mine all the way into the Hall of Fame." Hahaha, gotta love Iverson

The name of his crossover was the ‘UTEP-2-Step”. This should have been mentioned.

His crossover was so nasty because it was so quick. By the time your brain registered the through the legs and him going left, he’s going right and already two steps past your left leg. It was one of the most technically sound pieces of athleticism I’ve ever seen.

8:52 Crawford, that man has a family....

J KYLE MANN YOU'RE THE BEST

Kevin Johnson's cross-over to dunk play was one of the most vicious of all time.

We got the skyhook or dreamshake coming up?

tim hardaway looks like he's playing in 2019.

There are many versions of the cross-over dribble in the NBA, but I feel like the guy that does the Killer-Crossover better than most and the same version as T-Bug is Kemba Walker. My favorite move in all of basketball.

J Kyle “Let me know if you agree” Mann back at it with a great video

I would mimic Tim’s Crossover for years!...and it works so perfectly 🔥🥊🔥

There are few basketball related videos I look forward to more than these by J Kyle Mann. Not only is the analysis always on point but the story telling is impeccable. Really looking forward to more videos like these, the evolution/history of the game is just as important as the present. Wish these were more frequent but you can really see the effort/love put into these video essays.

The UTEP Two Step. OGs know!

Of course zero mention of Dejan Bodiroga doing the move (called "The Whip") in the early '90s. Yugoslav players were doing similar moves throughout the late 80s. It's not about "who did it first", but it's crazy that at pretty much the same time great players where doing similar things without even knowing of each other's existence.

I wish I was good at basketball, it seems like it would be fun

Tim Hardaway's crossover is the best, but i always have a feeling that his version is more demanding to the knee joints because it combines explosion and lateral change of direction . It takes a lot of torque to pull of that one-two dribbles, faking to go one direction and the abruptly stop and plant your first step and regenerate momentum to go to the other direction. I wonder if this caused knee injuries to Tim, Wade, and Kemba Walker as they do crossover the same way.

I lived in San Francisco during the runTMC era. I remember going to see a summer league game in Kezar stadium where Jason Kidd, a freshman at Cal, was going against Hardaway. The gym was packed since Kidd was a bay area HS legend, and making his name as one of the best players in college and a great defender. Hardaway did the star thing where he comes into the gym 5 minutes after the game started and goes right into the game. It was no contest. Hardaway got to the basket at will, blowing by anyone who tried to guard him, including Kidd. Must have scored 40 points without breaking a sweat. He left the building with a few minutes remaining in the game to a wildly cheering crowd. He was still good after he came back from the knee injury, but before that, he was unstoppable.

AI and Kobe started the exaggerating *carry-over* crossover where your hand is almost completely under the ball. Tim and Zeke kept it nice and tight and didn't resort to slight of hand.

J Kyle Mann's voice is just pitch perfect

Tim was so quick. Tim could throw down to easily but choose to shake and bake.

Omg thank you for making more videos, the world needs this content right now...!

It’s like trying to catch a hummingbird with a pair of salad tongs *mr Miyagi has entered the chat

Best video I've watched in a long time. Super well written commentary. Super well placed support videos. Good job.

I Agree! What a wonderful explanation about the carrying rules being changed gradually. I never heard that put this way, and it was beautifully crafted. Also I recently drew Hardaway crosses over Stockton on a book cover my colleague wrote about GSW.

I want to thank Hardaway! I spent hours practicing the move and was able to serve some people up with it on the local courts. Truth is you can blow by someone with the first part (tween the legs). If they try to stop that you cross em. (like in this video) If they try to stop the cross you go back to between the legs. Both moves feed off each other/set you up for the other one. That's why it's so devastating, If the defender tries to shut 1 move down it opens up the other move, etc, etc. Hats off to Hardaway and ankles off to the defenders! l

Keep the vids coming man, I love your analysis of the game.

915 RISE UP. UTEP 2STEP. Love that there’s a Tiny Nate Archibald clip in here too

This is the best video I've seen from you, man. Very, very good. And it left me with the desire of learning more about the subculture of street basketball during segregation.

Mann's analysis and big picture perspective are miles past anyone else on youtube, imho. Loving this Moves series. I'd like to see a breakdown of the euro-step....keep up the great content!

Back in the day on NBA Live, Tim Hardaway's signature move was the cross over but was called the Texas Two Step because he was drafted from the Univ. of Texas El Paso.

Good video. I use to play against him at the park when he was in high school and college. By the time he got drafted, you really couldn't do nothing with him. He could go left or right... extremely quick. Like magic said, bang, bang! And it would be all over.

Great series, keep it going!

His handles made that era look like this current era. P.S. 6:33. Did he just make Jordan dance?

A cup of coffee, the sound of rain and a video from J Kyle Mann. Today is a chill day.

Beautifully done

Dude. This guy is giving away all of my basketball secrets! It took me a decade to figure this stuff out. SUBSCRIBED

Love your detailed videos. Subcribed

"Hardaway" too Barkley yes"yes" in you're face gotta love it

8:40 I can hardly comprehend the magnitude of this cross to this day, seen it a million times, still boggles my mind

great video! we called this the UTEP 2STEP!!

wow..great video..ankle breakers are so beautiful to watch!!

Best crossover ever. Iverson's crossover was a carry. Tim's was much smoother and followed the rules.

this was fantastic..

Thanks for mentioning Mosswood Park as a legendary playground basketball Mecca. Oakland, CA Stand Up!

He popularized "in you're face!" for me personally, got me into some trouble copying Tims words when I crossed someone over and finished over somebody bugger than me at the hoop. Was never personal, but it certainly shook some people and others took offense to it.

Growing up with a Vietnamese born father, watching basketball with him. He got the basketball move named, "Fadeaway" mixed up with Tim's last name, Hardaway. So when ever he sees a fadeaway shot on TV, he yells, "HARDAWAY!" LMAO!

finally some love to the OG killer crossover. thumb up to the stratosphere

Deron Williams was always one of my favorites

J Kyle Mann at it again. Solid gold every time.

Top production dude, well done.

Another high quality vid from Mr. Mann. Keep this shit up!

I know you said your DIMEDROP channel is on hiatus in the ringer podcast, but you really have to put out more videos jKyleMann. You honestly have the best voice for basketball videos

Love the ode to the crossover edits at the end

I loved his crossover!

What a brilliant video. This presenter is just outstanding.

Great video

Would love a video like this about the shake and bake 🙏🙏

Good stuff.

I'm 2 years late to the party, but I'm so glad I found this video because it's the first time I've seen anyone address "palming" in detail and how it's been called over the years. I have friends who laugh when they see clips of old point guards from the 50's & 60's (like Bob Cousy and Oscar Robertson), and they say stuff like, "Those guys had sorry handles! Steph Curry and Kyrie Irving would have killed it back then!" Maybe, but what my ignorant friends refuse to believe is that Cousy and Robertson were literally NOT allowed to dribble like Steph or Kyrie. They would have been called for palming, which would have resulted in a turnover. *On an unrelated note, it was kinda cool to see a young Coach Pop on the left at 6:45 !)

thats one hell of a professional vid you got there :)

Would love to see one of these videos on the modern step back

This is great contwnt

Good break down

these videos are so well done how are they so low on views?!

pump this series right into my veins

UTEP two step or killer crossover Timmy did to perfection

"In open space staying in front of Hardaway was like trying to catch a hummingbird with salad tongs" lol love that

I could be wrong, but hearing Isiah Thomas describe it, "in the box" meant containing the ball within your frame, where the defender couldn't get it without reaching into your space.

Give J. Kyle Mann the max

Hands down the best crossover guard I’ve ever seen. So fast and didn’t waste space and Isaiah Thomas and Pearl Washington was great too.

That KAT crossover was just sick. I hope we get to see it more often

Tim needs to be in the hall of fame

Hardaway had the smoothest crossover. Exactly as described, economy of motion. He made it look easy. Of modern ball handlers I like Jamal Crawford’s crossover.

One lesser known reason why it's called the killer crossover: it kills your own knees and ankles as well!. My knee issues in basketball mostly stem from me repeating this move everyday for years. It's so effective and fun to do but it will shorten your career

Awesome video, my only slight criticism is that their is no mention to Hardaway’s college years, when this move was coined the “UTEP 2 step” here in Texas.

the killer crossover..thats what i always thought about tim hardaway

That Jason Williams hesi on Gary Payton is a classic

I agree , you should hit us up with a comparaitive study video of Allen iversons crossover too.

Mann youre the man

8:43 Gets me every time

The intro music! How can i find more of this genre? Its like 70s but the exact genre i cant tell

Crossover is the best move next to the classic dunk.

As movement fakes, quick changes in direction, and dribbling behind the back and between the legs have always been a part of basketball, the "crossover" (and its prototypical ancestors) has always existed. However, when the rules for ballhandling became more relaxed, as suggested in the video, the modern conception of a crossover started to appear (spontaneously and simultaneously, by many practitioners). Generally speaking, a basic crossover is a quick left-to-right or right-to-left movement, meant to allow the ballhandler to create some space for a jumper, or drive past him. In the 80s, crossovers were a common highlight. Hardaway's contribution, as a crossover innovator, was to do it THE BEST, despite using a movement (i.e. the between the leg dribble) that momentarily slows down the ballhandler. He used a unique posture, went between the legs, faked brilliantly, and still managed to maintain blazing speed. When I was a kid, we all practiced the method: - make a single, normal dribble with the right hand - instead of doing a second normal dribble, immediately get into "killer crossover posture" and quickly dribble the ball, between your legs, from right to left - if the defender bought that movement, thinking it was the intended crossover, then you can now take the final step and complete the true intent of your maneuver... - cross the ball in front of you, from left to right and blow by the defender

Tim also was one of the first players I saw with that step back jumper

wish i had these vids when i was a kid

8:20 - Early Slim Reaper sighting. I think people forget how cold KD was in OKC, its been a long time since then.

I broke two ankles my whole life, amazing experience, totally recommend!

It makes a huge difference if you move forward while dribbleling the ball and settig up your move.

J Kyle Mannn, thank you for making that De Niro Irishman reference. You are a truly a king among men.

T Hardaway’s crossover was legit and legal. No palming or carrying like today’s crossover

Chicago represent! Shout out to Carver HS...Tim's alma mater.

Nice vid. :)

I first heard of the killer crossover during Tim Hardaway's time...

Deron Williams double crossover both sides was smooth as shyt ..... from Jazz to Nets ... quick n deadly til injuries did him in ....

Somehow your videos always seem as long as they need to be, but never as long as I want them to be.

This video highlighed how Curry is underrated for me, due to the only focus on him being his shooting. When clearly, his dribbling is what allows for him to get the necessary space to get the shot off in the first place.

Iverson with the best comeback of all time lol

lol i never seen TIM GOING TO THE DUNK thank u

9:18 where you get the footage ive never seen Tim at a playground?

Timmy should be in the Hall of Fame for this innovation. He mad dumb comments about the LGBT community but has done so much community service to repair the damage. I was a huge fan of him in the 90's when Jordan retired. I even have his jersey signed.