Toyota Long Travel IFS - Camburg vs Dirt King

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Tinkerer's Adventure

Tinkerer's Adventure

Күн бұрын

A highly detailed and technical review of long travel front suspension for late model Toyota trucks (FJ Cruiser, 4Runner, Tacoma, GX470 and GX460) comparing Camburg and Dirt King +3.5 long travel kits. If you are a nerd when it comes to modifying your Toyota rig, you'll enjoy this video!
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Quick access time stamps:
0:00 Intro
2:04 Actual Wheel Travel
4:53 Lower Control Arm Design
10:31 Upper Control Arm Design
13:57 CV Axle Shaft
15:45 Outer CV Joint Clearance
16:42 Summary

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@dkone1746
@dkone1746 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all take a second to appreciate how much time and effort went into this video! Thanks for all the information. 🍻
@christianbolt5761
@christianbolt5761 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@SPARTAN-107
@SPARTAN-107 Жыл бұрын
For reals!
@PaletoB
@PaletoB Жыл бұрын
I drive neither Toyota or IFS but if I did this would be a really valuable insight. Basically the quality we all want to make ourselves but never have the patience to do. 😅
@jasonweber5464
@jasonweber5464 Жыл бұрын
Love this guys passion to spread Yota knowledge. Thanks bro!
@BUSHAV8ER
@BUSHAV8ER Жыл бұрын
Amen!!
@mgyWeston
@mgyWeston 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best comparison videos on KZfaq
@shoegum7362
@shoegum7362 2 жыл бұрын
Finally not a reviewer who just says "its great" but a breakdown of design and parts used with positives and negatives.
@tohloc
@tohloc 2 жыл бұрын
I would be surprised if this guy doesn’t blow up. Underrated for sure.
@tobyzanotti9872
@tobyzanotti9872 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison!!! I really appreciated your nuanced summary of why you decided to switch out. It was great to hear how your style of driving impacted your decision. I like the idea of prepping a car to go fast but there is a limit to how many dollars I am willing to throw at things. Great job!!!
@ajstar89
@ajstar89 2 жыл бұрын
Great job my man! Something to think about when Dirt King pushes the wheel forward they limit the cv angles since it’s no longer centered, which is why their axel shaft is longer to help accommodate that change addressing the plunge as well.
@freedomrider266
@freedomrider266 Жыл бұрын
That is good to know, thanks!
@vincefairleigh6899
@vincefairleigh6899 11 ай бұрын
Pushing the wheel forward helps fit larger tires and increases the approach angle.
@vincefairleigh6899
@vincefairleigh6899 11 ай бұрын
Really informative video!
@gardenparty3288
@gardenparty3288 2 жыл бұрын
Have watched your videos to date and subscribed. Thinking out loud here, it's one thing that you understand all this, it's quite another that you have the ability to relate it to all of us. Thanks, and well done.
@miketee2444
@miketee2444 2 жыл бұрын
You do a great job of explaining the technical information so that most could digest and use it to make decisions. Quality suspension manufacturers should invite your opinion and those that make nothing more than a " lift Kit" for mall crawling big tires may fear it.. The manufacturer should just be honest about their intentions but the price of a kit pretty much tells that story. Anyone should see that the time it takes you to compile your data is major. I doubt many lift companies invest this much but installing and reinstalling parts, raising vehicles and all involved is a lot of work and will reflect in the price of a system. The Yota guys especially should really appreciate your work..
@FahadAlkhadim
@FahadAlkhadim 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Please do not stop making videos on the FJ. I enjoyed every bit of your two videos. Very appreciated.
@christianbolt5761
@christianbolt5761 2 жыл бұрын
This is a master class on control arms. Great analysis and summary
@crisg.5766
@crisg.5766 3 жыл бұрын
The most in depth comparison that I've seen. Simple, concise, excellent. Subbed.
@russellwood8750
@russellwood8750 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I’ve ever seen on this subject thank you very much for taking the time in doing it. You help me make my decision on which one I will be going with when I upgrade my suspension an upper and lower control arms. Thank you very much.
@TrevorDyck
@TrevorDyck 3 жыл бұрын
This was so clear, concise, and thorough! I really enjoyed watching - thanks for making it!
@mrmettler1983
@mrmettler1983 2 жыл бұрын
You’re doing amazingly detailed videos. Keep up the good work.
@freedomrider266
@freedomrider266 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding effort and the results show....Thank you so much for your efforts....Please keep these type vids coming!
@dongtianxia2002
@dongtianxia2002 3 жыл бұрын
Real world comparison! The best bro!
@derekr9855
@derekr9855 Ай бұрын
Keep em coming buddy! Your videos are awesome sauce! Have a 3rd gen 4runner, and your videos really help me with making decision on what i need fpr my build! Keep up the GREAT work!
@svfourpoints9352
@svfourpoints9352 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such a detailed and well thought out comparison. I can't imagine how much time went into this effort, but wow! This has to be the best explanation and critique out there. Bravo Sir! I've subscribed!
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words man. Yeah took me a long long time. But luckily working on my FJ and my camera are both my hobbies so I enjoyed the process!
@bigdaddyocampo
@bigdaddyocampo 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. This is the first video I have seen with proper comparison and testing on off road products. You got something good here man! Hope you keep it up!
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the support man!
@12345678910yoable
@12345678910yoable 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive. Hard to find such a detailed comparison elsewhere!
@shannonbradley2879
@shannonbradley2879 2 жыл бұрын
You just made me feel much better about my purchase of my dirt king set up. Reading and researching the differences I chose dirt king because of the reputation and price along with their design. But I didn’t know anything like this about them. Thank buddy
@victoryengineer
@victoryengineer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. You really cut through the fluff and break everything down with facts. I'll be installing a long travel suspension this summer as soon as I take delivery of my new TRD Offroad this summer. Great job presenting this information!
@1Coolbanana
@1Coolbanana 2 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant and technically informative video. Well done, you really know your stuff
@MNunez42
@MNunez42 2 жыл бұрын
As a novice, you helped more than many shops, earned not just a like but easy subscribe. I hope you are getting commissioned. Lol
@nnannaokoroji8451
@nnannaokoroji8451 2 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely speechless.... Thanks for all the information!
@drew4829
@drew4829 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort put into this. I subscribed. Killer work!
@HaugenDustin
@HaugenDustin 2 жыл бұрын
Such a rad comparison. Your doin excellent work!
@ericpatterson5792
@ericpatterson5792 Жыл бұрын
You are, without a doubt, one of the best guys on KZfaq to fully explain everything toyota. No bs no byious. Just the facts. Thank you
@JohnnychimpO907
@JohnnychimpO907 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly comprehensive. Anyone could benefit from this, not just Toyota people. What a great series.
@gkcamden9050
@gkcamden9050 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and review. High quality video production as well.
@unknownwsc7764
@unknownwsc7764 3 жыл бұрын
wow, finally a simple understanding of things. This video is amazing 10/10. Please make more.
@westrup173
@westrup173 2 жыл бұрын
Rad video man! Thanks for the explanation and in depth comparison.
@juice659
@juice659 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the time and effort you put in to this!
@boondocksoverlandandoutdoors
@boondocksoverlandandoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid man! Appreciate the hard work put into it! And sweet FJ btw! You got a new subscriber here! Hope one day I’ll get good at making informational and entertaining vids like you! I have 4th Gen 4Runner that I’ve been tinkering with the idea of doing a long travel setup in the future, this video sure helped on knowing a bit more about these two companies, thanks!
@DirtComplex
@DirtComplex 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video with great information. This takes countless hours of planning, filming, and editing!
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. And yeah it was a lot of work😂
@randybrown2242
@randybrown2242 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Always admired your FJ
@beckyromineciy5410
@beckyromineciy5410 2 жыл бұрын
I subbed! You deserve it and more. Very detailed and precise information....
@wb5plj
@wb5plj 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the effort to make this video. excellent!
@Shiryas
@Shiryas 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo on a great comparison! My 93 Hilux runs Total Chaos 3.5 with triple bypass so I am not in the market for either of these kits but I sincerely enjoyed your video. Excellent job going over the technical issues on each of these and all the 'little' details to consider.. Liked, Subd' and looking forward to your next video.
@TheRockasaki
@TheRockasaki Жыл бұрын
Awesome job!!! I really appreciate the effort you put into this video!!!
@HHOOUUDDIINNII
@HHOOUUDDIINNII 3 жыл бұрын
Great video bro. Very informative. Can’t wait to see more.
@carlospicon6598
@carlospicon6598 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff. Thank you for sharing!
@sibco96
@sibco96 2 жыл бұрын
Great info! These are out of my budget, but it's fun to learn the technical points anyway.
@goayala90
@goayala90 2 жыл бұрын
seriously one of the best technical comparisons. very thorough, as if you’re an engineer
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am actually mechanical engineer by trades 😄
@turbogrin
@turbogrin Жыл бұрын
Thank you as this is the video I have been looking for
@spahledog
@spahledog 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos, thanks for putting this together.
@harrylake9388
@harrylake9388 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far the instruction I’ve ever seen.
@gammaboxer9765
@gammaboxer9765 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video and all the work that went into it. Please keep making more videos, stock vs Lt would be great to see also. Cheers 🍺
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate that! And yes few more videos are in the making!
@dustywizard1104
@dustywizard1104 2 жыл бұрын
love your videos, might be some dirt king in my 4runners future
@badmonkeyfood
@badmonkeyfood 2 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video thanks! so much detail.
@stealthy591
@stealthy591 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo, well done my friend!
@fgialcgorge7392
@fgialcgorge7392 2 жыл бұрын
Really good job. Gave me a lot of info for building my kit.
@matthewpeterson3329
@matthewpeterson3329 11 ай бұрын
I am so impressed with this video. Well done sir.
@vernonb5024
@vernonb5024 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is absolutely amazing! The amount of detail that he gets into and the amount of content he provided was outstanding! great work
@GelasticSnail
@GelasticSnail 2 жыл бұрын
I love your english! Very relaxing to listen too
@junfenggao
@junfenggao 3 жыл бұрын
Best FJ setup!!
@thlee3
@thlee3 2 жыл бұрын
amazing content. very well put together video!
@davidanthonytechurnangauta4880
@davidanthonytechurnangauta4880 3 жыл бұрын
Please make more vidoes like these, love the video🤟🏻
@thebigdeadwaltz
@thebigdeadwaltz 2 жыл бұрын
this is an amazing watch, thanks for this.
@420visions
@420visions Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid my dude.
@TrashPandaGarage
@TrashPandaGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Killer video and comparison. Nice work.
@LennyM87
@LennyM87 2 жыл бұрын
Yes i would love to see a future video on the major differences of LT IFS vs. stock style lifts, and this video was well composed and you were very informative on all the hot topics of the comparison
@LennyM87
@LennyM87 2 жыл бұрын
Without rubbing a LT kit, im just putting in a UCA, should i do the dirt king Heim or bushings version? Potentially in the future adding the gear for a LT kit
@LennyM87
@LennyM87 2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the Heim join UCA for Dirt king or Bushing UCA? Im not looking to running long travel, for now, maybe in the future. What are your thoughts?
@sebaaguerowagner
@sebaaguerowagner 2 жыл бұрын
dude!!! epic review! thanks!!!
@harrylake9388
@harrylake9388 2 жыл бұрын
You are my favorite professor ever! 😀
@cmedina61
@cmedina61 Жыл бұрын
The amount of time, setup and filming this took. Plus CRISP editing. I’m in.
@nicolasbautista3943
@nicolasbautista3943 2 жыл бұрын
So much good information.. I like it 👌
@danielstover3029
@danielstover3029 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent comparison! Very well done... Thank you. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@davidd5934
@davidd5934 Жыл бұрын
Turned it into a physics lesson! I'm following this guy!
@manuelsuda
@manuelsuda 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great comparison
@xkenny222x
@xkenny222x 2 жыл бұрын
amazing video!
@LilacRain_unbrokenchain
@LilacRain_unbrokenchain 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for your service
@jailbreakoverlander
@jailbreakoverlander 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad i found this before I bought dirt king LCAs I also got element hard UCAs
@josephcrapet1043
@josephcrapet1043 2 жыл бұрын
in regards to the cv axle topic. When you have a cv axle that is shorter and slides inside the inner tripod housing aka the housing on the differential not the hub. when it is extended out while in a full doop situation if you are heavy on the gas pedal or get into a bouncing situation it can shatter that entire inside housing . Yes I have def done that before. Not on my FJ but I have done it several times on a lifted 2 door tahoe bc the lift it had caused the cv's to be at a bad angle just sitting normal but when it got to offroading in any situation such as I described. BOOM... I have installed the Total Chaos +2 inch long travel on my 2010 fj and I love it.
@miguelsouderado3459
@miguelsouderado3459 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise.
@ericseaverns4276
@ericseaverns4276 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job!
@ATiredRyan
@ATiredRyan 3 жыл бұрын
Such great data. Thanks for all this. I have Dirt King lower arms in stock length and you have me curious about wearing them out quicker due to positive caster. After 20,000 miles, I took it all apart and noticed that the bushings had take some shape of LCA bolt hole. Not necessarily deformed, but more than likely normal wear for 4+ degrees of caster. Maybe I'll just replace them next teardown.
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’d say if the bushings aren’t torn. Don’t bother replacing them. Delrin is thermoplastic and will stress relax/creep. So it taking the new shape might actually bear the load better (just my speculation lol). I used to have total chaos +2 LT with poly bushings. They would start tearing at the end surface where it contacts the frame brackets.
@henryshaffer5811
@henryshaffer5811 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video very well-thought-out lot of research. I would like to see a comparison between the dirt King in the total chaos. Thanks
@piecemaster2000
@piecemaster2000 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@roberttirado8072
@roberttirado8072 2 жыл бұрын
Great video with explanations.
@Revnge7Fold
@Revnge7Fold 2 жыл бұрын
really well presented!
@dallasvanwyk
@dallasvanwyk 2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis video
@mondo_stunts27
@mondo_stunts27 2 жыл бұрын
Ah answers to my questions, thanks
@kwilcox417
@kwilcox417 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are incredibly informative, thank you! I'd love to see a comparison between BTF, Marlin Crawler's RCLT, and JD Fab's LT kit!
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Those 3 are all the newer and more “clever” design kits. Would love to get my hands on one some day.
@trikael
@trikael 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work. Subscribed
@Cougnut5150
@Cougnut5150 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@frankhall8698
@frankhall8698 11 ай бұрын
Hi Kai, I really enjoy all your videos. I always find them informative and insightful. I have a 2008 GX470. It sits on 34’s (285/75/17 BFG ko2’s) and a 2-1/2 lift. I use it as my daily driver. It has impeccable on road manners given its configuration. So, I'm hesitant to go overboard with modifications. Like most wheelers, I enjoy the occasional rock crawling trip, but the majority of my wheeling just relates to overlanding, with trips across Colorado, Idaho, the Pacific NW and Alaska. I am considering a trip through Mexico to Central America soon too. Given the distances and varied terrain I cover, I’m primarily focused on reliability and durability on trails that could be much more isolated than some of the more popular trails. I’m also looking for increased wheel travel for the more challenging sections of trails though, so I considered long-travel kits. I recently rewatched your video on Toyota ifs long travel kits. in your opinion should I even consider a long travel suspension given my type of driving? How does long travel compare to the factory set up?
@smokeybearsays
@smokeybearsays 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you very much!
@MrArrakis9
@MrArrakis9 2 жыл бұрын
very informative video learned a lot from you.
@erikschutzman2402
@erikschutzman2402 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you for the info
@daver.2871
@daver.2871 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video and had exactly the information I need for the mods I am considering. Thank you very much for such a comprehensive and detailed video.
@xiaoweizhang1441
@xiaoweizhang1441 3 жыл бұрын
I am running Camburg long travel ,It"s super solid.Just like you said, down side is the clearence of lower control arm is not very good.
@DeLaChaumette
@DeLaChaumette 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Great job. Finally, someone shows real world differences instead of quoting specs from the manufacturer’s. Subscribed!
@elnino1240
@elnino1240 2 жыл бұрын
I like your fj front bumper!!
@markopaape9913
@markopaape9913 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@gerardomata.costarica
@gerardomata.costarica 11 ай бұрын
Yes we want long travel comparison to factory setup!!
@r0b0saurusrex80
@r0b0saurusrex80 2 жыл бұрын
Dude great video. Subbed Liked... I am looking to do this on my Tacoma in the future.
@TheFoGProverbs
@TheFoGProverbs 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 3rd gen T4R and am highly considering LT. A comparison video between LT and stock would be great. Thanks for all of your time and info!
@michaelgrottola4234
@michaelgrottola4234 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks 😊
@OvDirt1
@OvDirt1 2 жыл бұрын
This video needs more exposer. I myself have Camburg UCA's on my Tacoma. Eventually would like to LT it. These are the real world, down and dirty numbers. Thanks for video my friend.
@TinkerersAdventure
@TinkerersAdventure 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the support!
@firsttodothat375
@firsttodothat375 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
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