Bernardo Profi 600 G bench lathe + 2-axis DRO + QCTP [unbox / review / first test]

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Bernardo Profi 600 G bench lathe + 2-axis DRO + QCTP [unbox / review / first test]

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Жыл бұрын

Hy There,
In this video i will unbox, clean, review and make some first chips with my new bench lathe i buy, it?s bernardo profi 600g with lot of equipement.
I didn't use lathe a lot, but i'm deffinitely impressed by it's power, it's defiinitely a big update from a 300mm minilathe i got so far, because turning steel and inox is piece of cake for that lathe.
Bernardo got really wide range of tools for woodworking, metalworking and lot more, from smallest to biggest version.
For more information and for dealer in your country check bernardo webside:
www.bernardo.a...
Slovenian buyers contact official slovenian dealer premzl trade:
www.premzl-tra...
profi 600g lathe 400v with dro:
www.bernardo.a...
Profi 600 G / 400 V incl. 2-axis digital readout ES-12 V
The turning lathe Profi 600 G is serially equipped with a leadscrew and feed rod for thread cutting and the automatic longitudinal and cross feed. The 12-step control gear allow a quick adjustment of the speed - no belt change necessary. The compact construction and the high own weight guarantees smooth running and precise work.
Properties: Control gear allows easy and quick speed change High-quality tapered rollerbearings ensure high concentricity of spindle nose (≤ 0,009 mm) Powerful motor for high torque, speed range 45 - 2000 rpm Wide range of applications: precision mechanics, training and education, etc. Logically arranged feed setting allows easy, smooth adjustment Solid machine bed with inductive hardened and polished guideways Ideal for processing steel, non-ferrous metals and plastics Comes complete with feed rod for automatic longitudinal and cross feed Apron features handwheels with fine scale
Technical specifications:Distance between centers 600 mmCenter height: 140 mmSwing over bed: 280 mmBed width 150: mmSpindle bore 26: mmTaper at spindle bore: MT 4Speed range: (12) 45 - 2000 rpmLongitudinal feed: 0,044 - 0,437 mm/rev.Cross feed: 0,022 - 0,218 mm/rev.Metric thread: (30) 0,25 - 5 mmInch thread: (20) 6 - 96 threads/1“Travel of tailstock sleeve: 110 mmTaper of tailstock sleeve: MT 2Motor power output: S1 100% 0,75 kW / 400 V Motor power input: S6 40% 1,0 kW / 400 VMachine dimension (W x D x H)*: 1220 x 700 x 500 mmWeight approx.: 220 kg* without stand
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@isidoromaich7226 Жыл бұрын

The analysis of the lathe was awesomely done! and coming from you I cannot doubt, you are very meticulous with your tools. Congratulations this new addition to the workshop, having seen all your previous works with the small lathe I think you will really enjoy working with the new one. Happy new year and all the best for you and your family!

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Isidoro, all the best also your and your family in new year

@fierceflyer5 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on that beautiful beast. Can’t wait for some machining videos.

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

thanks

@ronalddevos3811 Жыл бұрын

Hi there, I bought the same lathe almost 1 year ago. Recently I mounted a DRO, but wasn't sure how to mount it on the lathe. I searched on the KZfaq channel for more information, but there was nothing to find with the same machine ! Until now ! Thanks for sharing this info . By the way, my lathe is from HBM from the Netherlands but the only difference it is the product name ! have fun and stay safe; greetings Ronn from Belgium;

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

Can i ask how much it cost, there are many brand of lathe wich look identical on first view but one cost 2k other 4k i don't kbow but they said it worth to buy more expencive one, will see.

@ronalddevos3811 Жыл бұрын

@@TinC33 I paid around 2500 euro's, and both lathe's are identical except the logo !

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

@@ronalddevos3811 that's a good price, bernardo cost around 4k with dro or about 3.2k without dro.

@ianpendlebury3704 Жыл бұрын

That's a very nicely deigned lathe. I hope that it gives you years of satisfaction and pleasure. Best wishes for 2023.

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

thanks

@fenchelteefee 7 ай бұрын

Thanks very much, especially the rigidity test in the end were really helpful 👍

@incubatork 8 ай бұрын

Very nice presentation of what looks like a nice lathe, I have a smaller version, the HBM 250G which is slightly smaller at 250x500, I've had it about 6 years with only 1 slight problem, the lever used to set automatic cross/length feed was loose from new and will not stay tight for long, a minor hitch that can easily be fixed. I went with the geared version as the variable speed one was having lots of problems with the variable motor and control when they first came out, never regretted the choice so far other than maybe a slightly bigger one but they were not available at the time. I'm sure you will find the difference with the upgrade, hope you enjoy it.

@BLECHHAUS Жыл бұрын

I have the 220V Version without DRO and I like this little lathe :-)

@MrSneakyGunz Жыл бұрын

Good for you bud! Feels great to get nice things. 🤜🤛

@daseeyesh Жыл бұрын

Čestitke! Naj ti dobro služi! Pa srečnega in zdravega! :D

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

hvala, enako

@EngineeringNibbles 4 ай бұрын

Much nicer looking than the cheaper mini lathes indeed, seems worth the 1k premium over mine

@mohammadurgur953 2 ай бұрын

Nice walk through, and to be honest. Your English is excellent. I'm from Sweden. Question, are you still satisfied with your machine? I did look around a lot, and this one seems to be of better quality than many others. Thank you // Dick So Sweden

@TinC33 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, and yes i am still satisfied with a lathe, werry happy specially when i work on steel because its so robust it can make a big steel chips, and making any thread is so satisfied due to leadscrew transmission wich cover all the pitches... Only weak point so far is seals, oil leak out of lathe on alnpst every axel(for transmission) and every hole even blind cup, so i take out the oil, and replace the o-rings, some parts i turn a bit to get in bigger o ring, and use a liquid seal to reseal the cups, the lathe is now dry for more than half a year before that mod every day few drops of oil was on the pan, i really dont understant such a good lathe, good brand but then they use shitty cheap o-rings to seal, it was visibly by naked eye how shitty o-rings was wich was even not round, had exess from molding... There is some dirty work, not simpliest job but i coudnt wach my new lathe was oily every day. I had many more improve in mind but waiting to realise. Also buy new qctp 250-111 wich is my favorite, i try with 250-222 but it was way too big, original one was shitty, so don't buy them, check for 250-111 on ebay.

@mauserkk98 Жыл бұрын

Christmas came with style.

@virtualmarc2383 Жыл бұрын

Nice machine, it's going to be a happy New Year!

@stringmanipulator 5 ай бұрын

seems to be a very nice lathe

@RobotArms24 Жыл бұрын

If you take off the leadscrew cover, you will likely see a keyway the length of the leadscrew. There will be a gear that rides on the leadscrew, in the apron, that powers the power feed. Sure looks like a great little lathe.

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

exactly i notice that right after unbox, but separate feed rod is great because usual there come clotch on so we can set limit and avto feed will stop after reach it, i think here on that lathe motor belt is the only "clotch"

@MBJeep Ай бұрын

Hi,i have exactly 1:1 the same from "Paulimot",a PM 3700,only colors have change

@TinC33 Ай бұрын

Its preatty same but can you tell me is your x axis has table handly scraped running surface? I also hear bearings is different grade...

@ladedk Жыл бұрын

Cool!! Great Christmas present!

@juliangraham9010 2 ай бұрын

How was the weight after you had removed everything? How many people did you have helping you carry? I have just purchased the same lathe and need to get it into an awkward location once it arrives

@TinC33 2 ай бұрын

Dont talk i need to bring them in middle floore of my house by narroy stairs, after i remove back shield it become mach smaller and eqsier to carry arround, i also screw them on a piece of wood by long line, than on that wood screw two piece of wood front and rear parpendicular, so i had 2 handle on front and 2 handles rear, so 4 people easily carry them up on stairs.

@totilamotoclassica6535 6 ай бұрын

Hello; Es posible conseguir el manual de usuario?. Is it possible to get the user manual? Greetings: toti

@jothain Жыл бұрын

Oh this is was very interesting to see. I think this exactly the model I looked before that would have reputable seller where I live. But I've never seen Bernardo models anywhere. This looks actually big better than I anticipated. I wasn't expecting to see ie. Schneider contractors and that safety door switch, seem to be the ones are used in my work in quite expensive equipment and are robust. Looks like I'll be watching into that Bernardo option again 👍

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

Bernardo may not be so known because it's austrian brand, but i think it quality level is compare to german optimum and way better than holzmann for example, also i was surprised when notice schnider electronics, also manual tell much about company itself...

@jothain Жыл бұрын

@@TinC33 Yes. I follow one local hobbyist group and I do recall someone asking how Bernardo quality is and some, apparently very adept hobbyist commented that Bernardo and Optimum are virtually on par with each other when comparing spec wise similar equipment. I only experience from one bigger metal bandsaw that is Optimum and albeit being very different thing, it shipped very "ready" to be used. I mean all the angles etc. where as good as they virtually can be. Made few test cuts with it and essentially deemed it ready to use.

@kristijanmarin3437 Жыл бұрын

Cestitke, sem dolgo gledal ta model, izkljucno zaradi moznosti nastavitve za rezanje navojev. Sedaj imam Profi 550 pa ze gledam da jo prodam pa kupim to , ker ce je kaj nadlezno je menjavanje zobcenikov zaradi vrezanja enega navoja in potem spet nazaj. Vglavnem super video. Me pa zanima kako se zaklene sedlo in precni pomik , ko pa izgleda da gre DRO letev cez vijake. Lep pozdrav

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

Jaz sem gledal 450 katera je mela servo motor pa so jo zamenjal z enim klumpom ki niti precnega pomika nima, potem sem gledal 750lz ki ima kar precej opreme ampak menjava jermenov za samo dve prestavi me je odbilo, ta pa ima vse še frekvenčnik dam gor ker ga mam v omari pa mam obratov kolk češ, za blokirat je tečno hex vijak je pod letvijo tak da se blokira z ključem, to bo treba popravit in pravtako mazalke so pod letvijo.

@tudedude Жыл бұрын

A nice upgrade indeed :-)

@ivanmustac9367 4 ай бұрын

Kako ste zadovoljni sa strojem nakon godinu dana? Kako je kad se obrađuje malo veči komad, vibracije i ostalo?

@TinC33 4 ай бұрын

Sem zelo zadovoljen, predvsem z togostjo in močjo stroja, se lahko obdela tudi večje kovinske kose, edino me je zmotilo da je bila konstantno mastna (puščalo olje malo tu malo tam) zato sem pomenjal vse cenene slabe O ringe in slepe luknje zatesnil z tesnilno maso, zdaj je struznica suha.

@ivanmustac9367 4 ай бұрын

Znači sve u svemu je dobar solidan, al nema više tog modela sad je sam 650g ali nigdje nema recenzije pa pretpostavljam da su skoro isti strojevi. Kako se zove na fb?

@TinC33 4 ай бұрын

@@ivanmustac9367 da, zelo lepo se dela z strojem, ker je dovolj masiven in tog, se lahko obdeluje tudi že malo bolj na grobo (še vedno ni prvomajska) tudi natančna je zelo. 650g so mi ponujali v test ko še ni bila v prodaji, baje je popolnoma identična samo 50mm daljša postelja.

@ivanmustac9367 4 ай бұрын

To je bitno da je točna, ja sam gledao starije strojeve ali u večini slučajeva su več dosta istrošeni a opet je bitno kolko često ti stroj treba.

@1977drz Жыл бұрын

Pozdrav molim vas budite ljubazni i recite mi kako ste zadovoljni sa tokarilicom? Preciznosti i sve ukupno? Jer ja bi kupio iz Slovenije takvu ili možda veću ali ovaj model ima jedini po X i Z automatski posmak ostsle imaju samo po Z uzdužno.. Koji bi ste vi odabrali u toj klasi . Bez obzira na budžet? A vidim da ova može i veće navoje radit i preciznija je od ostalih Svako dobro vam

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

Pozdrav, teh stružnic je veliko ki so precej podovne, bernardo, optimum, holzmann... Sam sem uzel bernardo ki je bila ena najdražjih če ne najdražja, stružnica je super in zelo natančna, ima pa še veliko prostora za domače izboljšave, me še čaka nekaj dela kot naprimer ureditev niplov za mazanje ki niso dobro dostopni, zamenjal sem že nekaj o ringov da sem odpravil puščanje na oseh, to me tudi najbolj moti, nekaj puščanja je še pri zobnikih, tako da se po mescu naredi mala lužica (5ml) olja ampak to se da dodelati glavno da je osnova dobra in natančna, baje se natančnost precej razlikuje v ceni, bral sem da je med holzmann in bernardo precejšja razlika v natančnosti. Sam sem zadovoljen in bi še enkrat uzel bernardo. Isti model, če bi bil na voljo stari 450 z servo motorjem in prečnim pomikom bi uzel tisto.

@Lecram066 Жыл бұрын

Odlično!

@kmet2000 Жыл бұрын

Čestitke za nakup 👍👍👍 To bo pa kar konkreten skok naprej od prejšnje igrače 😆

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

Hvala, ja super bo za nardit kak bolcn za kmetijsko mehanizacijo, teh itak vedno manjka 😂

@kmet2000 Жыл бұрын

@@TinC33 Kako se kej obnese ta drejponk zdej po parih mesecih?

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

@@kmet2000 po pravic povedan jo nisem kaj dosti rabil, do zdaj naredil vsega par ur (sem hišo prekrival pa renoviral selil prostore) ampak kar sem delal sem navdušen, kak to noro gre tut železo, tisto ko šlišiš kako lepo reže, edin qctp je tak klump nosilec noža kar vidiš da ga odmika, morem menjat za unga kot mam na tamali struznci sam ne vem a bi vzel 250-111 al 250-222 ker je zlo bolj prijazen in hiter tudi za menjavo. nekaj dodatkov sem že naredil, moram še zmontirat nekaj predelav me še čaka... Je pa še ena slaba stran da je konstantno mal mastna, nekaj puščanj sem že odpravil saj recimo očke za livel olja niso bla zategnjena, ampak še mal sovzi pri osovinah, upam da se bo umiril ko pride olje na nivo saj so ga nafilal do vrha, ampak to je govora o kapljicah na teden me pa moti. Kaj vec pa ko bo več ur narjenih, trenutno jih nabiram na bagerju mam celo reč za odkopat pr sosedu 😉 lp

@jw200 11 ай бұрын

By looking this video I see it's a lot better than Chinese mini lathe. I'm gonna ask our retailer if they can get the 600G. They sell 500, not sure if there are significant differences.

@TinC33 11 ай бұрын

I think g600 going out, and come out same but 50mm longer, they offer me g650 to review but i don't want to risk after i saw what they made out of old model 450 wich got cross feed and servo motor...

@kubino99 11 ай бұрын

@@TinC33 : Shame you didn't took g650 :D there is not much info on net, some review would be helpful. But looking at the specs/pics seems 650g has better compound and increased bed width to 160mm. Anyway just ordered one.... so I'm quite curious :D

@TinC33 11 ай бұрын

@@kubino99 they offer me before they start to sell them but did you see what they did with a 450 pro? I got no balls to order lathe without see a single photo before.

@kubino99 11 ай бұрын

@@TinC33unfortunately 600g is not being sold anymore so I didn't had much choices. I called the distributor here in Slovakia and he told it's just slightly bigger with different gearbox. Quality should be the same as 600G. Will see when it arrives in few weeks.

@TinC33 11 ай бұрын

@@kubino99 yes it's true, almost the same but 50mm longer, if i see them before buy i will definitely take g650

@MrSneakyGunz Жыл бұрын

6:45 I think this is for an rpm display.

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

Possible need to chech where the wires go, it should lead to the sensor in this case.

@Bianchi77 Жыл бұрын

Nice video, thanks :)

@kundeleczek1 Жыл бұрын

Nice . This is decent tool. You will make good use of it.

@pacman10182 Жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain this is a rebranded seig, most of the small ones are

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

as i say there are many brends of those chinese lathe like bernardo, holzmann, optimum, sieg, grizzly, no name one wich is cheapest one, bernardo is one of most expenccive, holzmann or sieg is almost 1/2 cheaper, i hope i didn't make a mistake, but many people say it's worth to buy more expencive one.

@jothain Жыл бұрын

Well the sieg is "rebranded" too. To my knowledge many models are essentially Chinese base models, but with different built and tolerance quality.

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

@@jothain exactly this are all chinese model difference is in tolerance, paint, equipement...

@pacman10182 Жыл бұрын

@@jothain sieg is the manufacturer, they're based in Shanghai

@jothain Жыл бұрын

@@pacman10182 I wouldn't count on that. 99,9% of the the so-to-say entry level models aren't made by any of these manufacturers as mentioned. Beginning price is usually around +10k€ when manufacturers of tend to begin to have actual in-house built models. This Bernardo actually at least seems to comply to European standards, unlike majority of the the cheaper lathes.

@kundeleczek1 Жыл бұрын

If you want to buy Chinese lathe, please do not buy cheap one. I made a huge mistake and buy cheapest one and I suffer.

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

I don't know, but some lathe (visualy same) cost almost half of bernardo price, bernardo is one of top price range, like german optimum, i hope i didn't make mistake, but many people say it's worth to buy more expencive brended chinese lathe, like noname even if they look quite same on first view...

@kundeleczek1 Жыл бұрын

@@TinC33 My friend, you haven't made a mistake. Now I'm looking for Mill drill and for sure I will take Bernardo ( optimum is out of my financial capabilities). As we say in Poland, cunning man pays twice. And in a case of Chinese machine's it is true. Pay more, you will pay less 😀

@kundeleczek1 Жыл бұрын

@@TinC33 BTW, this your new lathe is totally bonkers with all these features. I wish to have them in mine. Auto feeds in both axes and fully geared threading box and DRO... Man, this is so cool. If I can suggest something, it is worth to consider 4 jaw chuck that is high quality. Polish company Bison Kolno and Bison Bial are making tooling that is high quality and not very expensive.

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

@@kundeleczek1 true, that is some features i just want to heave in my lathe, i also already check for some better chuck because this one hot quite a lot of runout, but i may just grind the yaws and then buy some chuck when there bee need, because i already got 100mm 3 and 4yaw independent chuck so i will deffinitely make an adapter flange for them.

@kundeleczek1 Жыл бұрын

@@TinC33 Please make a video in which you check quality of geometry of this lathe and if something is not ok how to change it.

@klyrouxas Жыл бұрын

Where made in this lathe machine ?

@TinC33 Жыл бұрын

Bernardo is Austrian brand, it is one of most expencive brands so they use better quality bearings, better equipement, more precize assembely... But this lathes is all made in china.