TIP: Drill down the center of bar stock

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TabLeft Workshop

TabLeft Workshop

9 жыл бұрын

Quick tip for drilling down the center of a dowel or bar stock for making bearings, bushings, nozzles, adapters, pipe stems, toys, etc
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@AsiAzzy
@AsiAzzy 3 жыл бұрын
Be warned that while spinning the work instead of the drill will make a true centered hole with the work (beacuse the axis of hole is aligned to spin of the work) the drill bit will not ensure a perfect diameter! Drill bit if sits just a tad out of aligment then the hole generated will be bigger than the drill. This is beacuse think of a boring bar in a lathe. It sits excentric to the spin axis and creates a hole big as the excentrecity to the cutting edge is applied. Same happens with a drill bit if it is excentric by 0.05mm it will generate a hole bigger with 0.1mm. Especially true for soft materials like wood, aluminium, copper, brass, plastic where the drill bit will keep it's offcentricity and force a bigger hole. In tougher materials like steel and stainless steel the drill bit will just flex and indicate the minor excentricity that you can try to correct for. Either way it will for a slightly bigger hole than the drillbit as for sure there are minute bend/excentricy in the drill bit. For such tough materials you need an acurate center punch to start with. As the initial purchase of the hole requires a lot of force and any wondering of the tip skating will flex dhe drill bit a bit and start an out of center hole. Going further will flex the bit a lot and will break. So for drilling accurate holes is best to start with a smaller drill bit that what you need (start with 4mm if you need a 6mm hole) by spinning the work (and hopefully the initial start is selfcentered.. hard to do in tough materials) drill it as long as you need. Then remove the work and go the traditional way where the right drill bit just enlarges the hole you made before. I have a tough time searching for methods of drilling an acurate 2mm hole in the center of a 10mm stainless steel rod. Ended starting the hole with an accurate center punch, used a short split point centereing bit (the short stubby pilot used in mills and lathes) then go with the drill bit (1.7mm) chucked low in the vice and slowly went. Raising the drill bit a bit each step (used a 3jaw chuck to hold the drillbit). After the ordeal was over (5 drill bits later). I've installed it normal way and went with a 2mm drill bit to enlarge the generated hole that was closer to 1.9mm. The hole eneded accurate and centered but with a lot of fussing. The hole i did had a lenght of 50mm. So this is my experience with spin the work technique. Good but hole diameter is not acurate enough and on small drillbits the flex induced can and will break a lot of bits much more the going traditional way.
@kroscuro
@kroscuro 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, THANK YOU. I have several projects that will use this technique. It's such a simple, but elegant solution to a common problem.
@silversteeler99
@silversteeler99 3 жыл бұрын
Simple yet brilliant. Thanks for the video.
@therealfocusin
@therealfocusin 9 ай бұрын
Great tip!! Had to put a hole right in the middle of a piece of round bar stock a couple days ago, took me lots of patience and time but managed to make it perfectly. Sadly it doesn't fit on my drill press, but I'll 100% use this tip if I have to do it again in a small diameter round bar. Thanks a lot!
@KenKopecky
@KenKopecky 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I just finished a project (front-end loader for my kid) where I had to drill holes in the ends of dowels a dozen or more times. I tried all sorts of homemade jigs to make it work and nothing helped very much. Finally found this video the shortly after I was finished with the whole thing, and it would have made a huge difference. Thanks so much for posting this! It'll be a big help in the future. I've already tried the technique out with far better results than I expected.
@lvd2001
@lvd2001 5 жыл бұрын
Unbelievably simple..and I was battling of doing this for a much complicated with a crooked hole result...Thank You for upload
@RonMarshallrone
@RonMarshallrone 2 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. I was about ready to stop making an item that is making a decent profit due to wasting dowels that are not aligning right because of not being able to drill them out straight. Thank you Man this saved it!
@olethalb
@olethalb 9 ай бұрын
I watched this last night and put it to use this mornng, successfully drilling 4mm hole centred in 1/2 aluminium rod. I even finished the work with placing sandpaper on the press table. Worked perfectly, thanks for the vid 👍🏻
@employed1000
@employed1000 5 жыл бұрын
It looked too simple.....it is - but it works like a charm. I needed to drill an accurate 1/4" hole through a 3/8" bolt for a dowel jig I was making (home made Dowelmax) . It was perfect and after set up it was mass production. Thanks so much Tab.
@dfu1685
@dfu1685 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing this! This will help me out sooo mutch. I just thought one had to have a lathe to do this and therefore; I would have to make due with the double sided technique. Big help!
@Partysize2
@Partysize2 8 жыл бұрын
This is a great tip! All-around good video work too. I sometimes use a smaller drill first to make a pilot hole for a larger bit. The larger bit will follow the pilot hole quite nicely. This is especially important if drilling into metal because the set-up is hard to control with a large bit cutting all in one pass. Keep up the good work.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@WaschyNumber1
@WaschyNumber1 6 ай бұрын
That is the normal approach on every drilling that have to go straight and for higher holes you drill in Steps with more and more bigger drill bits.
@michaelthompson342
@michaelthompson342 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mate! Top presentation. It worked perfectly on 10mm dowel that I used to connect bowl to stem on a hobbit pipe. Cheers!
@vlozity
@vlozity 8 жыл бұрын
I've tried this and it works perfectly on my home drill press, thank you for a great tip!
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@jukeboxhero1649
@jukeboxhero1649 5 жыл бұрын
Man! That is a fantastic idea! Thank you! I've racked my mind how to drill a straight he through a rod or bar for so long. Thanks again a
@OrcaRebuild
@OrcaRebuild 2 жыл бұрын
I've spent the past two weeks trying to figure out how to do this with a brass rod. Hope your project turned out great Juke Box!
@andersfolkesson6736
@andersfolkesson6736 3 жыл бұрын
i have been thinking about this for a day and found this. Made my day! Supersmart :D
@cerulean999
@cerulean999 9 ай бұрын
Perfect solution - at the perfect time. Thanks so much for sharing this!
@tomassriggi6679
@tomassriggi6679 6 жыл бұрын
Thans I'm fabricating control rods for A/P servos in aircraft, and this is going to work just perfect! Nice vid!!
@Australia-ky7kx
@Australia-ky7kx 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video. Thanks for posting
@dondenter
@dondenter 7 жыл бұрын
Tips like this are worth their weight in Osmium. Brilliant- thanks.
@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop
@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop 8 жыл бұрын
thank you for taking the time to make this video, its a massive help.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
+lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop Thanks for watching!
@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop
@lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop 8 жыл бұрын
+TabLeft Workshop believe me it was a pleasure, there's a tiny bit of movement with my drillpress so it made my bearings job a little difficult. i tried this idea and it worked brilliantly, thanks and i look forward to checking out more of your videos.
@originalhotrodder4337
@originalhotrodder4337 8 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled onto your channel. Great ideas you share. Thank you.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
+OriginalHotrodder thanks for watching :)
@pebbleshooter3807
@pebbleshooter3807 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent method without complications. Thank you for this.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@333Roulette
@333Roulette Жыл бұрын
Great tip. Saved my day today thank you 🙏🏼
@rpan5441
@rpan5441 9 ай бұрын
Very unique. Loved it.
@virriki627
@virriki627 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant two-step solution!
@gideonnel2654
@gideonnel2654 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tip. You have solved a very frustrating problem I have!💯
@buzzwerd8093
@buzzwerd8093 6 жыл бұрын
Really good explaining, I don't see comments saying "close enuff but not exact" here. Liked and subbed, hope you show a lot of the old techniques. I hadn't thought about the wood bending instead of the bit!
@timh.2137
@timh.2137 Ай бұрын
That was a handy dandy excellent tip!
@WayneTheSeine
@WayneTheSeine 6 жыл бұрын
Smart. I will use this technique today. Thanks
@freejep
@freejep 8 жыл бұрын
had a busted nylon roller on one of my kitchen drawers...this tip saved me 20 bucks on having to buy a new pair of runners...great tip...and many thanks for sharing...
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
+freejep glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
@frankdearmond3372
@frankdearmond3372 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great tip! I was actually searching for a jig that will help tap into aluminum tubing. I need to tap into the ends of an aluminum tube to install 8-32 rods. Tried it by hand today just holding the aluminum tube in a vice - what a hot mess that turned out to be! First I'll drill the tubing to the correct size ( #29 bit I think), then try tapping into the tube. Think this will work for my application? Thanks again, great info!
@paulsoniac
@paulsoniac 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thanks for posting it!
@thecrowsblow
@thecrowsblow Жыл бұрын
Genius idea. Thanks for the video.
@henrikbakk1
@henrikbakk1 9 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was after. Before finding your video, I did get a “v” inside, and I did not get it centered. Thought; there has to be a better way :) Thanks a lot for sharing and making an intuitive explanation!
@cando9609
@cando9609 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thanks for sharing, man! I always fail at this but your video has given me renewed hope!Thanks!
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@KedaWoodDye
@KedaWoodDye 5 жыл бұрын
That is so friggin clever! Amazing! I owe you one...thank you for sharing that 👍
@bernadettepetersen9005
@bernadettepetersen9005 4 жыл бұрын
This was I was looking for Thanks so much tom
@ianthompson9201
@ianthompson9201 8 жыл бұрын
Simple but full of ingenuity. I'll give it a try. Many thanks.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Dave51262
@Dave51262 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a great video tip that I will definitely use. Thanks!
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :)
@markhobster8113
@markhobster8113 7 жыл бұрын
+TabLeft Workshop i use the lathe as it has a 110mm travel and 1000mm travel if also moving the headstock, instead of the rubbish 50mm travel of the drill press but wether you have the bit or the dowel in the chuck the biggest issue is deflection causing the bit to wander due to wood grain, brad point wood bits instead of hss helps but still no substitute for slow feed and regular chip removal with a thinner bit for a pilot hole first.
@jaryH3
@jaryH3 6 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. Thanks! What if the drill bit is from material lighter than then the work piece material? Does it still work?
@LetsPrepTogether
@LetsPrepTogether 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip! I should have watched before try to freehand 😄 i will try it out
@SDCustoms
@SDCustoms 8 жыл бұрын
That's really cool, takes out a lot of guess work. Thanks!
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rowmingoat5145
@rowmingoat5145 7 жыл бұрын
you made my day with this tip. Simply perfect solution!
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 7 жыл бұрын
+rowmin goat 👍👍👍
@user-cl4nn4hz7h
@user-cl4nn4hz7h Жыл бұрын
이렇게 좋은 방법을 알려주셔서 너무 감사합니다.
@tipsclubs01
@tipsclubs01 2 жыл бұрын
Good Video, I will try this, as I always have trouble finding the center of a round rod or dowel. Thanks.
@Thomas-qg7vy
@Thomas-qg7vy 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Thanks. Was very effective.
@jantoniov3
@jantoniov3 8 жыл бұрын
Great idea for small diameter dowels. Thanks
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
+jantoniov3 thanks for watching!
@kathleenbasieiwcz4636
@kathleenbasieiwcz4636 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I saw this video a week ago. Been trying different methods but nothing works as simply as your way. Can't wait to get back at it.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck 👍
@paulcastro1361
@paulcastro1361 8 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thanks for sharing.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Castro thank you for watching :)
@graemepalmer2306
@graemepalmer2306 Жыл бұрын
Awesome tip, Thanks!
@bernym4047
@bernym4047 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, just what I nee for a current project.
@cremaster6
@cremaster6 8 жыл бұрын
Very cool trick. Thanks for making this video.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@cygerwoods1
@cygerwoods1 8 жыл бұрын
Works perfect !! Great tip. Easier than the other way around ...thanks
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
+cygerwoods1 glad it helped!
@idahodaytrader4277
@idahodaytrader4277 8 жыл бұрын
Very useful, thanks for the short video.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@CaptainJohnSmith2
@CaptainJohnSmith2 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this video!!
@DingoDawg64
@DingoDawg64 6 жыл бұрын
Cool tip and video. Seems that you could did the inverse as well, that is use the chuck to center the piece into the vice then put the drill into the chuck. It wouldn't be self-centering, but it would not enlarge the hole the way self-centering could.
@majorzbzzn
@majorzbzzn 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! This is just what I needed.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@FranksDIY
@FranksDIY 7 жыл бұрын
Same technique they use for metal on lathe. The material spins not the drill bit. Great explanations for doing it with the drill press for those that don't have a lathe .
@ale29ax
@ale29ax 8 жыл бұрын
that's really creative, thank you
@johnmarshall9415
@johnmarshall9415 8 жыл бұрын
A great idea, thanks, solves a few problems for me.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
+John Marshall Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
@Shanningun
@Shanningun Ай бұрын
You're a genius. I'm subscribing
@geomcc39
@geomcc39 Жыл бұрын
I purchased a bell punch to center hole, then step drill with the smallest drill bit first slow. remember to walk the drill bit out of the hole many time to clean the hole 40w motor oil work great for lub
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac 8 жыл бұрын
Very good tip that I will be using. Thanks.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@royspeakman1157
@royspeakman1157 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant ! Great stuff !
@RustyGunn7
@RustyGunn7 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this tip
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TurkishZombie
@TurkishZombie Жыл бұрын
Great video
@Chris-SS
@Chris-SS 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you so much, now I can drill a hole in the centre of some bar stock 😁
@craftychinurse5240
@craftychinurse5240 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!
@rexcadral3468
@rexcadral3468 4 жыл бұрын
This really saved my bacon! Thank you!
@BrushCountryAg06
@BrushCountryAg06 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video Sir.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@catgrrl58
@catgrrl58 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I never would have figured that out.
@inurjaya
@inurjaya 3 жыл бұрын
How about reversing the drill with the rod? First align the rod with the drill and vice, then release the rod from the chuck after fastening it to the vice and finally put the drill bit on chuck and start drilling. I've been trying to find a nice way to drill a center of the steel rod and tapping some thread there. You just give me some good ideas. I am not sure if I still need a drill punch in this situation.
@DomMini
@DomMini 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a great idea!
@babis600
@babis600 8 жыл бұрын
i wish ive sheen that video some days ago...it would have saved me from trouble! Very clever!!! Thanks!
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Kadensi22
@Kadensi22 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am looking to get something similar done, but don't have any of the tools. Do you know what type of businesses provide the service for a fee?
@carlos6ago
@carlos6ago 7 жыл бұрын
Very useful, thanks for sharing
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 7 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@laytonpratt
@laytonpratt 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. You just earned a new subscriber 😉.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 7 жыл бұрын
Too cool for school! new subscriber!
@1markivor
@1markivor 7 жыл бұрын
fantastic.... thanks that's just what I need for a project ☺
@charles1379
@charles1379 8 жыл бұрын
very good tip. consider clamping the vice once the drill bit has been positioned.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Not needed having the vice loose lets it move to center if the initial alignment is off.
@wmwalkerco
@wmwalkerco 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip!
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@joseeduardobonani8293
@joseeduardobonani8293 4 жыл бұрын
Muito bom! Funciona com metais?...
@TheHarleyhillbilly
@TheHarleyhillbilly 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@Geraldine975
@Geraldine975 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant simple yet brilliant
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 7 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 7 жыл бұрын
I could have used this technique on Friday at work, seriously, I was making an emergency spade bit extension 1 metre long using some tube steel and small lengths of solid round stock. This would probably work better with some V jaws in the drill vise.
@jukeboxhero1649
@jukeboxhero1649 3 жыл бұрын
That is clever, thank you!
@wallyortizjr71
@wallyortizjr71 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Thanks for the tip.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hanagorman5230
@hanagorman5230 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thanks so much.
@Saladzingers
@Saladzingers 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! Unfortunately the project I’m currently doing requires a hole drilled into the end of quite a long length of dowel so I don’t think this will work - but still glad I learnt this.
@katherinesherrer1140
@katherinesherrer1140 2 жыл бұрын
I came here looking for the same applicational you - a center hole in an 8s’ dowel. Please share if you found a solution. Thank you!!
@SLAPSHOP42
@SLAPSHOP42 5 жыл бұрын
Could you make a recessed dowel for a project about 3/4” 2” Long
@jamescannon7267
@jamescannon7267 Жыл бұрын
As for me I appreciate the math explanation keep it up
@jonathoncary4109
@jonathoncary4109 6 жыл бұрын
Very good. I suppose with a cheap drill to start a hole you could even put little flats on the shank .thank you
@tobuslieven
@tobuslieven 3 жыл бұрын
I think this would work equally well if you used the chuck to align the wood in the vice. The key thing is that you're using the same object (the chuck) to align both the cutter, and the thing you're cutting.
@EDKG
@EDKG 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip, many thanks for sharing!
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@donmak0427
@donmak0427 7 жыл бұрын
Great tip - thanks! Any tips on how to center drill something longer, like say, a 12" long 5/8" wooden rod? I once strapped a hand drill with a long bit down to a saw horse, measured and adjusted the bit to the length and surface of the saw horse so that it was straight and parallel to the saw horse. I then put a v-notch into a 2x4 to hold my 12" dowel, and used spacers to adjust the height of the dowel's center to the drill bit. I pushed the dowel onto the drill bit, guided straight and true by the v-notched 2x4, but of course over the length of the dowel, the grain of the wood caused the drill bit to wander, and when it came out the other side, it was off-center by a good 1/8" - 3/16". Any suggestions on how to do this better would be much appreciated.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 7 жыл бұрын
Don Saito pocket83 recently did a video where he did something similar it was for the Jurassic Park cane he made with peter brown. Alternately you can actually just clamp a long drill in a vise, and chuck up a down in a hand drill and since the system want to center it’s self you can get pretty good results.
@donmak0427
@donmak0427 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, interesting idea - I'll think about it - thanks!
@scrider8464
@scrider8464 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool, thanks.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 7 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@machinist_kwt
@machinist_kwt 8 жыл бұрын
good trick >> Thanks from Kuwait
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Many thanks from America!
@EdwinDueck
@EdwinDueck 8 жыл бұрын
Cool tip, thanks.
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
+Edwin Dueck Thank you!
@floydmillar2875
@floydmillar2875 8 жыл бұрын
Genius . Thanks for sharing this
@TabLeft
@TabLeft 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
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