Tlaib And Barbara Lee Battle Moskowitz's Amendment To Stop Using Gaza Health Ministry Death Counts

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19 күн бұрын

Rep. Jared Moskowitz's (D-FL) amendment to stop using the Gaza Health Ministry's death counts gets opposition from fellow Democrats Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) and Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-CA).
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@Benderdidit
@Benderdidit 17 күн бұрын
Hamas has shown to be liars soo 🤷
@flavioa3965
@flavioa3965 14 күн бұрын
Piers Morgan asked Israeli spokesman how many fighters has Israel killed and they have no clue and no numbers. They don’t even know the amount of hostages thatve been taken. Israel lies !
@The-Man-Right-Chea
@The-Man-Right-Chea 14 күн бұрын
🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥Does anyone else find it interesting that you cannot spell Israel without the letters L-I-A-R-S 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@louislemire6691
@louislemire6691 14 күн бұрын
@@The-Man-Right-Chea lie ing is their modus operandi.
@lisawise9849
@lisawise9849 15 күн бұрын
I am a Democrat and I stand with the Jewish people and Israel and thank you representative Moskowitz for standing up for what's right and even going against fellow Democrats who are eating up the propaganda of Hamas and support them.
@justmyopinion5533
@justmyopinion5533 17 күн бұрын
The demorhamas party has lost their ever lovin mind.
@MichelleKavarnos
@MichelleKavarnos 15 күн бұрын
Demorhamas 🤣
@gabrielderman974
@gabrielderman974 15 күн бұрын
Sorry to say, nothing loving about them if they ever had. It sounds to me like a pack of lies, pipe dreams and snake oil salesmanship. The democrats have now something in common with the Muslims. They have, both, dig themselves into a whole so deep that not even Alice could have imagined.
@flavioa3965
@flavioa3965 14 күн бұрын
Probably the most weakest non original name call I’ve ever heard
@rachaelkoppel2917
@rachaelkoppel2917 15 күн бұрын
She is the worst
@CountryFenderBass
@CountryFenderBass 17 күн бұрын
Because Hamas counts terrorist deaths as civilian deaths
@Depthcharger
@Depthcharger 17 күн бұрын
The UN also revised it's numbers on May 8th cutting the Hamas numbers of women and children deaths in half
@dantheanimator5072
@dantheanimator5072 17 күн бұрын
Hmm that sounds familiar 🤔 🇨🇳 🇺🇸 🪳
@HughCorner
@HughCorner 17 күн бұрын
​​@@Depthchargerthis is false - the tallies were only for those whose bodies had been identified. The overall total numbers remained unchanged and were undisputed by the UN, who in fact agreed that the Gaza Health Ministry's counts had always been considered reliable in the past.
@Depthcharger
@Depthcharger 17 күн бұрын
@@HughCorner which part, the revision of the numbers of the cutting the civilian casualties in half
@shanevinson845
@shanevinson845 16 күн бұрын
@@HughCornerAmazing how Hamas “identified” bodies immediately after alleged missile strikes. Yet it takes the FBI months to identify victims. Get a clue
@jabsdrahm.3232
@jabsdrahm.3232 15 күн бұрын
Love Israel
@mialhr
@mialhr 15 күн бұрын
Can someone deport Talib!
@RajAdams
@RajAdams 16 күн бұрын
What country does Rashida represent?
@therealshah
@therealshah 15 күн бұрын
What countries does most of our congress represent? She doesn’t get funding from foreign country’s like most of congress does via AIPAC wake up
@BobJones-zt1pr
@BobJones-zt1pr 15 күн бұрын
HAMAS and Iran
@70sfan17
@70sfan17 15 күн бұрын
Not the US!
@Hmoney0
@Hmoney0 15 күн бұрын
Not AIPAC or Israel like 90% of congress
@Blob-jx3fg
@Blob-jx3fg 15 күн бұрын
How are you saying this as a zinger when you think America needs to do exactly what Israel says??
@RajAdams
@RajAdams 15 күн бұрын
Is this is running our country? What country Barbara Lee is she representing ?
@luvitluvitbaby
@luvitluvitbaby 15 күн бұрын
What country is Jared Moskowitz representing?
@marinahayon6701
@marinahayon6701 14 күн бұрын
​@@luvitluvitbabyUSA of course
@luvitluvitbaby
@luvitluvitbaby 14 күн бұрын
@@marinahayon6701 You sure about that that??
@marinahayon6701
@marinahayon6701 14 күн бұрын
@@luvitluvitbaby 100%
@luvitluvitbaby
@luvitluvitbaby 14 күн бұрын
@@marinahayon6701 I would say Barbara Lee represents the USA more. Let’s say 110% 😊
@vikakes
@vikakes 17 күн бұрын
What country does Rashida represent? 🤡
@therealshah
@therealshah 15 күн бұрын
What country does all these pro Israel congressman represent 😂 don’t play yourself like your congress rep takes money to send your taxes away
@alexseioo610
@alexseioo610 15 күн бұрын
United States. Moskowitz (witz = joke btw.) represents Israel.
@conniepan4684
@conniepan4684 15 күн бұрын
@@alexseioo610you are totally wrong😢
@iglaksb6376
@iglaksb6376 15 күн бұрын
She's representing Hamas!
@honeyho9890
@honeyho9890 15 күн бұрын
Gaza/hamas
@BobJones-zt1pr
@BobJones-zt1pr 15 күн бұрын
Why anyone would listen to HAMAS is beyond me
@conniepan4684
@conniepan4684 15 күн бұрын
She repersents Hamas, shame on her
@jabsdrahm.3232
@jabsdrahm.3232 15 күн бұрын
No she's PLO
@chlorophyllmorelikeboraphy6874
@chlorophyllmorelikeboraphy6874 15 күн бұрын
He represents Likud so….
@jabsdrahm.3232
@jabsdrahm.3232 15 күн бұрын
@@chlorophyllmorelikeboraphy6874 Likud OK'd billions to Hamas, signed off by Bibi while restricting funds to Fatah.
@tulyatungaumar7213
@tulyatungaumar7213 14 күн бұрын
Indeed she is against mass murdering gazan civilians
@garygoodin1426
@garygoodin1426 14 күн бұрын
The real shame is representing the Zionist state
@davidsheriff9274
@davidsheriff9274 16 күн бұрын
Barbara Lee said"As much as we wish there were other source, this ministry is the only source for Gaza casualties", so she is admitting that it's unreasonable but we should use it anyway.This sounds ike the guy who says"the guy that runs the local poker game cheats"and the other person says "then why do you play there"? And the man replies "it's the only game in town".
@LeilaJeanLevi
@LeilaJeanLevi 15 күн бұрын
Why won’t Hamas allow the Red Cross in to verify anything, including checking in on the hostages?
@luvitluvitbaby
@luvitluvitbaby 15 күн бұрын
When has the Gaza Health Ministry been proven to have exaggerated the figures in past conflicts?
@davidsheriff9274
@davidsheriff9274 15 күн бұрын
@@luvitluvitbaby The Palestinian Health Ministry told the media that Israeli airstrikes were responsible for an explosion that killed 500 Palestinians at the Al Ahli Arab Hospital, and then it turned out that it was an errant rocket from Islamic Jihad that landed in the parking lot of the hospital and that 100-300 people were killed. The Palestinian Health Ministry is under the control of Hamas and if you believe that Hamas is telling the truth about any of this, you are as gullible as a Trump supporter.
@jimgill37
@jimgill37 15 күн бұрын
On multiple past incidents, Israel has called into question Gaza’s numbers. On every single occasion, Israel later agreed with those numbers. So why would they continue to question the numbers unless they are trying to cover it up? And what are the better ways to “count these numbers”? Asking Israel?
@davidsheriff9274
@davidsheriff9274 15 күн бұрын
@@jimgill37 What about the example I gave about the hospital?Rashida Tlaib tweeted that it was an Israeli airstrike and she did not take it down even after she knew it wasn't true. Ilhan Omar blamed Israel in a tweet at first, but to her credit, when the truth came out',she corrected it. Hamas does not include in their count,casualties from errant rockets: that they and other groups in Gaza fire at Israel but don't make it into Israel and fall on their own people like what happened at the hospital.They also don't distinguish between innocent civilians and Hamas fighters when they do their count. If the first congresswoman said she wished there were other sources, she is admitting that she doesn't trust the Health Ministry.
@bernieyaphe4366
@bernieyaphe4366 16 күн бұрын
The only thing Talib forgot was the violin. Boo Hoo
@WalterDempsey-bj6ut
@WalterDempsey-bj6ut 17 күн бұрын
Why isn't Tlaib concerned about the almost 1 million people killed in Ukraine??
@summerrecall
@summerrecall 15 күн бұрын
And Ukraine isn't using their people as human shields.
@honeyho9890
@honeyho9890 15 күн бұрын
No Jews no news
@Bluemoon98-2
@Bluemoon98-2 14 күн бұрын
Why she is not concern about the Palestinians her family the hamas is abusing Why she is not concern about the Palestinians refuges in Syria The list is long It is as if she does not care
@The-Man-Right-Chea
@The-Man-Right-Chea 14 күн бұрын
I got a strange feeling that you honestly think the Europeans who call themselves Je wish are actually the same Israelites in the Bi-Bull 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You do know that the Europeans in Izreal converted to Judaism and don't share the blood of the original Izraelites? The arabs we call Palestinians have been living on that land for over 3000 years and are actually the semites known as Israelites. But they changed their religion because of invaders
@Bluemoon98-2
@Bluemoon98-2 14 күн бұрын
@@The-Man-Right-Chea so you think that Muslim man that was saved by the uk 40 years ago had 3 children and now have 7 grandchildren That all are not British /England ? Are you saying that every Muslim that live in the USA , every Asian , every Mexican should be deported ?
@l.sweden
@l.sweden 14 күн бұрын
No information is better than false information.
@5Mariner
@5Mariner 17 күн бұрын
I kept waiting for her to have another breakdown.
@WalterDempsey-bj6ut
@WalterDempsey-bj6ut 17 күн бұрын
Does Tlaib ever listen to the other sides argument?? And who does she represent, Gaza or Dearborn??
@BobJones-zt1pr
@BobJones-zt1pr 15 күн бұрын
samething
@techhawk1543
@techhawk1543 11 күн бұрын
What Country does Rashida Talib Serve 🤔 ? Not AIPAC or Israel which almost 90% of Congress does !
@ThePoehladian
@ThePoehladian 17 күн бұрын
2 commies battle one American.
@flavioa3965
@flavioa3965 14 күн бұрын
lol American bought by Israeli government by AIPAC
@The-Man-Right-Chea
@The-Man-Right-Chea 14 күн бұрын
I didn't know izreal was America
@frankstalla
@frankstalla 11 күн бұрын
I see 2 Ametican’s standing up against politicians working for AIPAC
@ThePoehladian
@ThePoehladian 11 күн бұрын
@@frankstalla Leftists only work for their cult.
@ThePoehladian
@ThePoehladian 11 күн бұрын
@@The-Man-Right-Chea I don't like them either..... another cult. Maybe it's the CLASH OF CULTS, lol.
@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808
@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808 15 күн бұрын
*You cannot be actively Anti-Not See and Pro-Hamas, to be Pro-Hamas is to be Pro-Not See.* The ideologies are closely related.
@lesliegaskill650
@lesliegaskill650 17 күн бұрын
Save America?
@ReneeSalloum-cf1by
@ReneeSalloum-cf1by 15 күн бұрын
Wonderful speach .
@Carol-cc6pz
@Carol-cc6pz 17 күн бұрын
Why do the left keep talking about what Israel did to Gaza but ignore what started all this. Oct 7th Hamas attacked innocent civilians in Israel. Israel, USA's ally, has the right to defend themselves.
@scottphillips393
@scottphillips393 15 күн бұрын
American citizens were murdered on 10/7. We only have five American hostages alive, we think. Hamas murdered, raped, and kidnapped people from 17 different countries.
@Hmoney0
@Hmoney0 15 күн бұрын
What started all this is Israel’s illegal occupation well before October. No one has a right to collective punishment and justice will be served to all parties facilitating ethnic cleansing.
@luvitluvitbaby
@luvitluvitbaby 14 күн бұрын
Because that didn’t start this. That was an act of defense.
@Carol-cc6pz
@Carol-cc6pz 13 күн бұрын
@@luvitluvitbaby how so? I thought there was a peace agreement between Israel and Hamas at the time of Oct 7th.
@luvitluvitbaby
@luvitluvitbaby 13 күн бұрын
@@Carol-cc6pz Do you know of any country that would allow a blockade by land air and sea on its territory by a foreign entity or allow for that foreign government to seize thousands of its citizens without warrant and hold them without any legal reason for years?? If you can’t name one then there is your answer.
@kaioser
@kaioser 16 күн бұрын
She still doesn’t know her place
@luvitluvitbaby
@luvitluvitbaby 15 күн бұрын
What place is that?
@kaioser
@kaioser 15 күн бұрын
@@luvitluvitbaby in the kitchen and covered in table cloths and bedding?
@The-Man-Right-Chea
@The-Man-Right-Chea 14 күн бұрын
​@kaioser I got a strange feeling that you honestly think the Europeans who call themselves Je wish are actually the same Israelites in the Bi-Bull 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You do know that the Europeans in Izreal converted to Judaism and don't share the blood of the original Izraelites? The arabs we call Palestinians have been living on that land for over 3000 years and are actually the semites known as Israelites. But they changed their religion because of invaders
@luvitluvitbaby
@luvitluvitbaby 14 күн бұрын
@@The-Man-Right-Chea EXACTLY!!!
@user-sq5sl4uz3c
@user-sq5sl4uz3c 13 күн бұрын
@@kaioserSo Tlaib is supposed to be an AIPAC shill like 90% of congress is and be a sheep with no morals. I applaud Rashida Tlaib for standing up for what’s right and denouncing this genocide denial. Israel accepts the Gaza numbers as legit every aid organization that has been there has said it’s a undercount.
@5Mariner
@5Mariner 17 күн бұрын
Rabid Rashida
@honeyho9890
@honeyho9890 15 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@emmanuelenyinwa1443
@emmanuelenyinwa1443 10 күн бұрын
Just the BIZARRE, BIZARRE spectacle of America, the mighty America, being reduced to an errand boy for a foreign country. Quite remarkable.
@hulkingcolosussklunnulk2501
@hulkingcolosussklunnulk2501 17 күн бұрын
Dorry guys im on murkoski side ,,,alska
@lforlight
@lforlight 15 күн бұрын
Whether the ministry of health has been truthful or at least acceptably reliable in the past does not change the fact that it lies now and has been caught lying throughout this war. Statisticians have went through the numbers and found clear anomalies. The numbers literally don't add up. Others have went through the list of names that later woman mentioned, and found errors that can't be explained by mere typos, such as people listed multiple times and people who have died years ago who now appear to have died in this war again. Other errors that might be typos but are unlikely include incorrect ID numbers, having too little or too many digits. To say X many people died, you need to know which exact people have were pronounced dead, and so you need exact details. Without these details, the list cannot be distinguished from pure fiction. And a few months ago the ministry itself had said that 11k (about a third of the reported casualties number) are incomplete listings. That means that about a third of that number could be flat out made up, even before you start noticing the repeating listings or the listings reused from years ago. These reports are also never revised from the initial exaggerated casualty estimations, even when they're proven false or significantly smaller than first thought. They don't differentiate between civilian and combatant. They don't differentiate the causes of death (was it a victim of an Israeli attack, of the local authorities shooting their own people, of natural causes?). Whether it's the only source, whether it's been used in past engagements, it's not reliable now.
@norman_5623
@norman_5623 10 күн бұрын
Let me guess -- you have not dealt with wartime medical statistics before, right? If you're referring to Abraham Wyner's article in The Tablet, which claimed to find "anomalies," you should know that Wyner is an economist, not a medical statistician, and The Tablet, to put it mildly, is not "peer reviewed." I did a Google search for his name and found real medical statisticians who pointed out the flaws in his analysis. Your other criticisms don't make sense. You're just speculating. The BBC did a few stories where they interviewed actual experts on wartime statistics who said that the Gaza Ministry of Health seemed to be following the right procedures and was as accurate as you can get in these conditions. Everyone who understands death counts agrees that their statistics significantly undercount the deaths because of the unrecovered bodies.
@lforlight
@lforlight 10 күн бұрын
@@norman_5623 I'm referring to the presentations done by Greg Rose and Lewi Stone on Natasha Hausdorff's channel. A handy video on KZfaq, search for their names and it should come up. I don't recall Abraham Wyner being mentioned in the video, as the two talked about their own analysis. I'd appreciate it if you could watch their presentation and tell me what they got wrong. What "other arguments" are nonsensical speculation? You haven't addressed any arguments explicitly in the first place to establish what "other" is, so addressing this accusation is impossible.
@norman_5623
@norman_5623 10 күн бұрын
@@lforlight I found that video at the UKLFI Charitable Trust channel with Rose et al, and I followed the link to their article at Fathom that the video is based on. They also cite Wyner's article and they are raising similar objections. I've been to a few day-long workshops on biostatistics, and the lesson I took away was that it's particularly difficult, specialized, and even experienced PhD-level experts often make mistakes. A New England Journal of Medicine editor told me that they have three biostatistics consultants on call. There are lots of lawsuits, like the talcum powder litigation, where two equally qualified experts using equally reasonable methods can come to opposite conclusions. Whenever an advocate is trying to prove an argument, there's a strong risk of confirmation bias. Science magazine has had several articles on how to make policy decisions when the decision-maker has to depend on experts whose testimony he doesn't understand himself. A minimum requirement is that their work should be published in established peer-reviewed journals. Fathom is not a peer-reviewed journal, so I can't trust their conclusions. They cite one article, by Jamaluddine et al., in a peer-reviewed journal, Lancet, which examined the Gaza Ministry of Health statistics and didn't find any problems with them. So that's the only evidence-based conclusions I have so far. Rose et al. are obvious advocates, so I can't trust their conclusions outside a peer-reviewed publication. So I'm not interested in dinner-table calculations by amateur statisticians, that haven't been peer-reviewed. If non-peer reviewed evidence is acceptable, then the BBC fact check also supports the Gaza Ministry of Health.
@PatrickDuffy-y9f
@PatrickDuffy-y9f 11 күн бұрын
What country does Tlaib represent?
@kaioser
@kaioser 14 күн бұрын
8:47 😂
@dressmeupny3541
@dressmeupny3541 15 күн бұрын
if you want counts, I can do that, but it is as good as the Hamas report.
@The-Man-Right-Chea
@The-Man-Right-Chea 14 күн бұрын
I got a strange feeling that some of yall honestly think the Europeans who call themselves Je wish are actually the same Israelites in the Bi-Bull 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You do know that the Europeans in Izreal converted to Judaism and don't share the blood of the original Izraelites? The arabs we call Palestinians have been living on that land for over 3000 years and are actually the semites known as Israelites. But they changed their religion because of invaders
@yonatangoldman9759
@yonatangoldman9759 13 күн бұрын
False
@user-wm6ws8gg8o
@user-wm6ws8gg8o 17 күн бұрын
go to palastien
@ruthnovena40
@ruthnovena40 17 күн бұрын
WE don't even know if those counts are REAL.given who put them out. how many people actually live in Gaza You cant even get a total pop. fir this area.140 sq, miiles.with a dense population.So who did the count. ?
@norman_5623
@norman_5623 10 күн бұрын
According to Amira Hass, a reporter for Haaretz, the IDF had computerized census records of every house in Gaza, and every occupant.
@tulyatungaumar7213
@tulyatungaumar7213 14 күн бұрын
The united states' works on behalf of Israel not on behalf of Humanity 😢😢
@jeviesr
@jeviesr 13 күн бұрын
Not true.
@aikulovekitten6501
@aikulovekitten6501 15 күн бұрын
Trash
@iglaksb6376
@iglaksb6376 15 күн бұрын
Tlaib🤣🤣🤣. You are a drama queen!
@user-dv9ds6cg5w
@user-dv9ds6cg5w 13 күн бұрын
this ministry claimed 500 killed at Shifa hospital by an Israeli bomb. when it turned out it was a faulty Jihadi rocket that fell in the parking lot, they said "up top 50 had been killed". Claiming high civilian casualties helps Hamas, who runs this ministry. even the UN stated on 50% of the claimed casualties were true.
@user-kz7rp3ll1k
@user-kz7rp3ll1k 7 күн бұрын
Why did you not mention all the other 35 or so Gaza Hospitals that Israel levelled in your faulty argument? Were they levelled by HAMAS rockets too? Selective memory or Judaic amnesia much?
@mattnewhouse1781
@mattnewhouse1781 14 күн бұрын
There was no such thing as a "palestinian" before 1964. They had 20 malnurished kid while the u.s. had 20,000 last year.
@jimgill37
@jimgill37 15 күн бұрын
On multiple past incidents, Israel has called into question Gaza’s numbers. On every single occasion, Israel later agreed with those numbers. So why would they continue to question the numbers unless they are trying to cover it up? And what are the better ways to “count these numbers”? Asking Israel? If he really wanted a better way, he would have shown us one. The entire international community - sans the US/Israel - uses these numbers. We Americans are not this naive.
@kl.1993
@kl.1993 15 күн бұрын
It's a fantasy to suggest that Israel accepted the fake numbers provided by deceptive Hamas. Never happened! Never will!
@The-Man-Right-Chea
@The-Man-Right-Chea 14 күн бұрын
🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥Does anyone else find it interesting that you cannot spell Israel without the letters L-I-A-R-S 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😮😮
@eddielongley2784
@eddielongley2784 17 күн бұрын
People will vote crazy out. god bless America voter id
@hudakhalidi6868
@hudakhalidi6868 13 күн бұрын
Experts say the the numbers are understated.
@user-iq7th6rd7s
@user-iq7th6rd7s 16 күн бұрын
OMG Oy
@RhondaCheck
@RhondaCheck 17 күн бұрын
I cant help but wonder.. if Ms.Talleeb, would be this emotional over American's Deaths.. and if not, would i want her representing the state of michigan. No Way! and Nor, The U.S.of A.-- "Honestly" + "J.S." - ?😮?
@dantheanimator5072
@dantheanimator5072 17 күн бұрын
Impossible She and her party are no longer the party of the people, have admitted they would let millions die for mother Gaia, and consider people illegally crossing as Americans
@kaioser
@kaioser 15 күн бұрын
Shes not true american,
@norman_5623
@norman_5623 10 күн бұрын
I can't help but wonder whether you can accept the killing of 15,000 children (which is the low estimate). I wonder whether you can accept the killing of Hind Rajab, the 6-year-old Palestinian girl who was deliberately killed by an Israeli tank after they killed her relatives.
@norman_5623
@norman_5623 10 күн бұрын
@@kaioser Where is your first loyalty -- to America or Israel?
@roniberahaquartet477
@roniberahaquartet477 17 күн бұрын
Tlaib lier
@Hmoney0
@Hmoney0 15 күн бұрын
Hasbara bot
@roniberahaquartet477
@roniberahaquartet477 15 күн бұрын
@@Hmoney0 no just musician who want to live and create normaly in Israel .
@user-er5or4nr9z
@user-er5or4nr9z 16 күн бұрын
Stop the Aipac lobby
@joshuafrank3803
@joshuafrank3803 15 күн бұрын
You're not fooling anyone. What needs to stop is the money being invested in our universities by Muslim despotic regimes. (from 1981 through Oct. 13, 2023), four Arab nations-Qatar ($5.7 billion), Saudi Arabia ($3.3 billion), the UAE ($1.4 billion) and Kuwait ($1.3 billion)-accounted for 23% ($11.7 billion) of all donations ($51 billion) to higher education and 94% of the $12.5 billion donated by 14 Arab states and the Palestinian Authority. Look up: "Who donates the most to American Universities."
@lisawise9849
@lisawise9849 15 күн бұрын
Stop Qatar from giving billions of dollars to Ivy League colleges and stop the caliphate
@robertsullivan8212
@robertsullivan8212 14 күн бұрын
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