TMC2209 Stepper Drivers - Bigtreetech - SKR 1.3 - Install - Chris's Basement

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Chris Riley

Chris Riley

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In this one we check out the TMC2209 drivers, these are the Bigtreetech version. We install them on a SKR 1.3 board using the UART connectivity. Another great reason to check out this board.
00:00 Intro
00:44 Driver Board Overview
04:10 Main Board Overview & Install
07:54 Marlin Setup
15:00 Testing and Tweeking
19:36 Conclusion
Link to drivers on Ali Express:
geni.us/B8c5kuy
Link to SKR 1.3 on Ali Express:
geni.us/jCK7
Bigtreetech github:
github.com/bigtreetech/BIGTRE...
Marlin firmware 2.0:
marlinfw.org/
Pronterface terminal tool:
www.pronterface.com/
Video where we setup SKR 1.3 for 2208's:
• BigtreetechTFT35 V3.0 ...
Another video to setup SKR 1.3:
• SKR v1.3 Mainboard Ins...
Config from this video:
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@HyenaZin
@HyenaZin Жыл бұрын
2yrs old and it's more informative than the rest here on KZfaq. Thank you sir .
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@HyenaZin
@HyenaZin Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley still struggling but I'm on your everything z axis vid now . Homing issue but I'll get it soon .
@bliksemdonder5624
@bliksemdonder5624 4 жыл бұрын
Timing is everything... I bought a set of Bigtreetech parts for my new CoreXY printer which include the SKR 1.3, 2209's and the TFT35 V3.0 controller a while back but have not had the time/energy to figure out how they fit together. Brother Chris to the rescue as he covered it all in his usual thorough manner. Well done and thank you, Chris.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear, thank you for watching and glad the videos help.
@bertholdheisterkamp1944
@bertholdheisterkamp1944 4 жыл бұрын
mate, this is exactly all the information I was searching for, when I had to order a new board two weeks ago. For now I am still happy with the 2208‘s, but you made me curious about the 2209s next time. Can‘t believe this video just hit 1.000 views, almost every maker must watch this! Thank you!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, I am glad it was helpful.
@m3chanist
@m3chanist 4 жыл бұрын
Good job wrangling/reading the matrix of features, I saw the smile at "if you're not confused now" and immediately wondered how many takes that had taken ;)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! LOL, I was starting to confuse myself!
@daproph8352
@daproph8352 4 жыл бұрын
Today, I have upgraded the mainboard to the BTT SKR 1.4 Turbo with TMC2209 drivers from the stock Anet A8 board. I am absolutely blown away by how much quieter my printer is. Before, I could hear the printer all the way upstairs, now i can barely hear it sitting 2 feet from it. And it runs so smooth now....I like it! Glad I seen your video on the 2209's. Thanks Chris!!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome right!? SO much quieter, thanks for watching!
@slmars
@slmars 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch! This walkthrough makes it so much easier to get the pins correct.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, glad it helped you.
@gptech2444
@gptech2444 4 жыл бұрын
Just like to say thanks for doing these videos, I was able to swap out a melzi in a Wanhao i3 v2.1 in under an hour with the help of your videos.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad they are helpful.
@markferrick10
@markferrick10 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. Great and informative as usual. My 2209s are in the mail so this is my goto install video. I would love to see the use of stall guard 2 on z as a probe. Sounds kool.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark, yeah, I want to give that a try.
@AndyMartin51
@AndyMartin51 4 жыл бұрын
2209's are in the mail on their way to me now. I picked them over the 2208 because of the current limit (2A vs 1.4A) so I can stick those beefy StepperOnline guys on my printer and chug the bed around at ludicrous speed. Great vid, your channel is really thorough and you have a great way of explaining these things. Keep it up!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
LUDICROUS SPEED!!! Thanks, man, I appreciate that.
@CMDRBlueeagle66
@CMDRBlueeagle66 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your excellent videos, I have now just ordered some Bigtreetech 2209's for my SKR 1.3 to finally upgrade from my A4988's. 😀
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! You'll love em.
@gandy4711
@gandy4711 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great review, looking forward to the sensorless bed leveling video 😁
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
You bet! Yeah, that one should be fun.
@gandymaxx
@gandymaxx 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley I bet it's even more fun doing that on a flexible plate with a magnetic base underneath ;-)
@fusseldieb
@fusseldieb 4 жыл бұрын
This video just lead me over the edge and made me buy 5 TMC2209 V1.2 from BigTreeTech. Wish me luck :)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@johnshort9490
@johnshort9490 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. I watched other videos on this but only yours got me up and running. Thanks as well to Tobias below. I will also look forward to the 1.4 Turbo and 2209 video as that is the current setup i'm working on.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, yep, SKR 1.4 videos coming very soon.
@Yourresultsfitnesscoach
@Yourresultsfitnesscoach 4 жыл бұрын
your videos are great man! surprised you don't have more subscribers! quality content!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jchidley
@jchidley 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent information concisely delivered. Just what I like.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@geoffb7900
@geoffb7900 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Thank you for the very informative videos. With your help I was able to get my TMC2209 and SKR 1.4T up and running. As a note, STEALTHCHOP for E & Z I did comment out. STEALTHCHOP for my BMG style extruder seemed to be creating noise with the stepper during retracts. Geoff
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
Great! Nice, I have heard others have better results turning it off for E. Glad it's working for you.
@madmike8406
@madmike8406 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! Yup, I gotta get me some 2209s... This will surely help my skr setup...
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, yep, they are the best I have seen so far.
@edoardoo
@edoardoo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This helped me a lot debugging sensorless homing.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks for watching!
@CMDRBlueeagle66
@CMDRBlueeagle66 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris. I installed my BTT TMC 2209's yesterday. Finally got a chance to test them today when the grandchildren went home. Holy hell my steppers are quiet! Now I know what I was missing when running my A4988's. Just got to re-build my X axis to replace a badly flat spotted mini V wheel and my AM8 will be back in business (albeit much quieter). I have a BTT Mini UPS on the way now too, to hopefully sort out power outages, so Marlin will resume better. Greetings from Wales 😀
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, yes, it is incredible how quiet they make the printer.
@dad311
@dad311 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, perfect timing.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darrell!
@jflugum
@jflugum 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheMidnightSmith
@TheMidnightSmith 4 жыл бұрын
Killer timing! I just ordered some to replace my Wanhao i3 motherboard!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@trt969
@trt969 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanation... Thanks for the video!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@EdS808
@EdS808 4 жыл бұрын
Thank for a great video . I also would like to see a video with the Skr v1.4 turbo.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, I will work on it.
@earthlightsmusic2743
@earthlightsmusic2743 11 ай бұрын
This is a different kind of article than I was looking for. That's OK, it was easy enough: replace my A8988s with TCM2209s, putting the pot's toward the RAMPS power terminals, reverse the stepper connectors, and set Vref to about .8 volts. The new drivers quieted my Makerfarm Pegasus effectively, so I'm satisfied. Have fun, those of your making the more elaborate upgrade!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 11 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for sharing
@mitofun6967
@mitofun6967 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chtis thank you for the instructions everything works goooooooood!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@astro_mittens5792
@astro_mittens5792 3 жыл бұрын
Chris... you are an absolute miracle worker
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Thank you
@ConspiredOne
@ConspiredOne 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris. Looking forward to a senseless Z probing video with these....
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We will see what I can do.
@ConspiredOne
@ConspiredOne 4 жыл бұрын
No rush bro, i got mine up kinda. Working out the kinks. Mostly sensativity.
@martijnajanssen
@martijnajanssen 4 жыл бұрын
Very good timing. Again ;-)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I love it! I am always glad when these videos are helpful.
@XxNachilloxX
@XxNachilloxX 4 жыл бұрын
Myyyy herooo, looking for a tutorial for 2 weeks and it is almost imposible to find information. I even thought asking you to make a tutorial ajjajajaja thanksssssss
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Niceeeee! Great to hear, I am glad this info will be helpful for others.
@markgreco1962
@markgreco1962 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris!!😀😀
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!
@okflyer777
@okflyer777 Жыл бұрын
Great video Chris. I just ordered a SKR 1.4 + 2209's to use with Klipper / Moonraker / Fluidd. Plan on doing the setup using KIAUH which appears to be the "new" way to do things. Would love to see you do a quick tutorial on that approach.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea, I'll look into it!
@rayztech7384
@rayztech7384 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@fastfood122
@fastfood122 Жыл бұрын
Chris is the best as usual.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@danieltalavera9847
@danieltalavera9847 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to probe the bed with your nozzle, increase probing speed to 60 mm/s and reduce sensitivy bump
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Right on, I want to see what happens for sure.
@MacFly669
@MacFly669 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris for this video. Very helpfull as usual ! Love your channel ! Did you already test or review the SKR 1.4 ?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The 1.4 stuff is coming up very soon, I will be finishing it tomorrow.,
@Robothut
@Robothut 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how far stepper drivers have come in the last 5 years. Thank you for another great "How Too" video.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John! For real, these things are getting really impressive.
@thehappyextruder7178
@thehappyextruder7178 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I am working on this Board so this Tut came just in time Thanks Chris !!!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Great to hear, thanks Ron!!!
@matmizz
@matmizz 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@NuarStanger
@NuarStanger 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Very informative... and convenient since I recently got an skr 1.3 and tmc2209s lol
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad it helps out.
@Kelvin555s
@Kelvin555s 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I am thinking to get a SKR 1.4 with 2209 drivers. Chris, what do you think about dual Z motors with using E1 as you mentioned to configure to level the bed? As in my CR10 sometime the Z axis gets tilted on one side. I was thinking of using two endstops if possible but looks like I can use sensorless homing for Z as well? Will definitely have to set something on Z both sides so it does not hit hot end.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is going to be tricky. I haven't tested the Z sensorless homing yet. It would be cool if it would run up to the top and level before every print. Adding the second E1 Z driver shouldn't matter to much. Should be the same results.
@christophersaintdenis5965
@christophersaintdenis5965 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jacquesrooswinkel9954
@jacquesrooswinkel9954 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, is it possible to do a install/config video about the SKR 1.4 (turbo) with TMC2209 steppers? I would be very thankful!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I will work on it.
@qwerrrrta
@qwerrrrta 4 жыл бұрын
I second that. I have a SKR 1.4 Turbo and the TMC2209-1.2 lying around here, and I just can't get the drivers to run in UART mode. Pronterface always gives me "Error: All LOW" on m122. Hence the interest ;)
@qwerrrrta
@qwerrrrta 4 жыл бұрын
OK, I figured this out: The UART-Connection only works with 12V connected.
@jacquesrooswinkel9954
@jacquesrooswinkel9954 4 жыл бұрын
I have it working now for a great deal. I have a creality CR-10S and have now installed the SKR 1.4 Turbo board with TMC2209-1.2 drivers in UART mode. I also activated sensorless homing. I'm able to move all axes in both directions, but I can't get my ABL probe (LJ18A3-8-Z/BX-5V - inductive NPN) to work for doing the Z-homing. It starts the Z-home procedure and is going down, but it won't stop when the probe is triggered. M119 says that the probe is triggered or open, depending on the state, but whatever I change in Marlin it won't stop and will crash into the plate. By the way, I'm using the Marlin 2.1.x development version. Any ideas?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
@@qwerrrrta Interesting find.
@matejbratoz7872
@matejbratoz7872 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, im into rebuilding 3ds cube 3, to use marlin and running skr1.4 with tmc2209, i cant get the sensorless probing to work...(not be able to Configure correctly??) does the diag pin need to be connected to zmin signal pin? I appreciate your videos, very informative, keep up with the good work
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
On a 1.4 as long as you have all the pins on (not clipped) sensorless homing should work. Marlin just released 2.0.5 that fixes some issues with sensorless homing.
@certified-forklifter
@certified-forklifter 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, awesome video! I plan to build a DIY printer (maybe) and think about mainboards, what's your recommendation? I might want to build a laser toolhead or so. Thank you a lot!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
It's really hard to beat the SKR 1.3 for the money. For the $20, it's worth a try.
@certified-forklifter
@certified-forklifter 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley thanks
@andyspoo2
@andyspoo2 2 жыл бұрын
It was quite some time since you setup sensorless homing. How well has it fared? Has it been reliable? And would you trust using it with a glass bed 🙂
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Sensorless homing works well on certain printers, but not well on others. You have to get it just right, the firware does get better and better as we go. I still wouldn't trust sensorless Z with a glass bed.
@renderance3551
@renderance3551 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Riley. Your videos are amazing man and really well done. I really enjoy your videos dude.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you like them!
@theviperman3
@theviperman3 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, what software are you using to make the edits to the configuration.h file?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
That is VScode and notepad ++
@Wello789
@Wello789 3 жыл бұрын
@Chris Riley, is this printer 12v ? Do you experience any whines when moving higher speeds ? For example my custom printer running skr v1.3 and tmc2209 or tmc2130 are experiencing whines when doing infill which is faster movement than external perimeters. Ender 3 which is 24v and has tmc2208 do not do this at all.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are a bit louder at 12v, especially in spread cycle. If you set the 12v option in Marlin it's a bit better.
@EPICPRINTS
@EPICPRINTS 4 жыл бұрын
thanks been looking to upgrade my board in all my printers now I feel like i can do it.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet! It's great I can help, it is an awesome upgrade.
@beykana
@beykana Жыл бұрын
Hello. What is the VREF setting for 17HS4401S Nema Motor and 1/8 stepper stepper of Tmc2209 stepper motor driver board? Thank you.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
That's a 1.7 amp motor, it would depend on your load, but 800 would be a great starting point.
@mondingue
@mondingue 4 жыл бұрын
hi chris , I have the same configuration stealhshop work perfectly but when i switch tmc2209 to spreadcycle i have high pitch sound ?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is usually chopper timing causing that. They are a little quieter at 24v. See if changing this setting helps. #define CHOPPER_TIMING CHOPPER_DEFAULT_12V
@pieter-6385
@pieter-6385 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. I am a bit confused about these skr mainboards. I have read that the E3 mini is the most easy one to install in my ender 3, same layout just a replug and go. The thing is that I find many many many bad comments about the board breaking quickly. So I am looking into the skr 1.3 or 1.4 now. Is there any board you prefer about these 3? I would really like to start printing alot more silently. Thanks
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I have had good luck will all these boards, but I have heard people have had issues. I have had the most luck with the 1.3 board I would say, but I really like the mini because it fits in the case.
@lisalotravels
@lisalotravels 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, so do I not need to adjust my vref if I were to install it on the my Skr 1.4 Turbo in UART mode? Thanks in advance
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
No, just use M906 to adjust it, start around 800.
@htw007
@htw007 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video one more time Chris... i like how you explain everything...
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, thank you for watching!
@alexanderdoh9311
@alexanderdoh9311 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thx for the Vid. I have mine skr 1.3 with tmc2209 and an tft35 here. I use an Sidewinder X1. Do you have an config for me? What must i change? thx
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm not really sure on the X1, I have never had to do that config. I am sure someone has one online.
@rondlh20
@rondlh20 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again, I use a sponge to reduce the sensorless homing crashing impact, and start from the too sensitive setting and work downwards
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! great idea, I was thinking some felt pads or something would be a great add.
@mezianka
@mezianka Жыл бұрын
hello, I have a question regarding the choice of a driver, my need is to install 2 X motors and 2 Y motors on my Anet A8 plus printer, which is equipped with A4988 drivers. Which driver do you recommend knowing that the drivers will have to control 2 motors so double intensity or voltage. I am aware that it will be necessary to change the motherboard evening an MKS or a Beegtreetech. thank you in advance for your help
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
The 2209 can probably do two just fine. If you want to be sure you have enough juice take a look at the TMC5160, just remember is it an SPI interface.
@TotoGuy-Original
@TotoGuy-Original 3 жыл бұрын
hi chris i have a question about heat on the tmc2209 drivers and standard nema 17 motors. before i used cheap tmc2100 and they always ran hot i think they were doomed to fail. i did have a fan blowing on them though but ive had some fail. i believe the BTT tmc2209 heat up less and mine will have heatsinks but im wondering if they still need cooling? i dont think they would but i dont want to kill them. thanks in advance
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
More cooling is never a bad thing, but you probably won't need it if you have heatsinks. Even better if you run them at 24v. Try to dial in your currents as low as you can and you should be okay with out a fan.
@yonathanbenhamou2292
@yonathanbenhamou2292 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, Thanks for this great video! Very helpful. I'm trying to setup TMC2209 drivers for a project not a 3d printer, so Marlin would not be involved. Can you explain what signal the stallguard homing sends when it's triggered? Is it a code through UART? Thanks for your help
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
You bet! Unfortunately, that is over my head. I would have to refer that to Trinamic.
@flyrcwarbirds
@flyrcwarbirds 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris Great Video but then again i have been using a lot of your videos for education as I just started in the hobby. Quick question should I leave the 2 jumpers off the booard (skr v1.3) if i am not sure about using sensorless homing or put them in for future. will it effect my endstops and such Thanks
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it will impact your endstop, if the cap is on, the endstop will always be triggered. Maybe just leave the cap on 1 pin for safe keeping.
@flyrcwarbirds
@flyrcwarbirds 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley Thanks Chris
@wrxsubaru02
@wrxsubaru02 3 ай бұрын
Hey Chris, do you know what the difference is between SPI Mode VS. SD Mode on TMC5160T PRO? I can’t find any information or videos that explains what the SD Mode does.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 ай бұрын
I looked at the manual, I can't find anything other than SPI mode, not sure what SD mode might be.
@muserbellamy1140
@muserbellamy1140 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris do I need to snip the diag pin if I don’t want senseless homing as installing on a delta thanks
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the board, if it's not an SKR 1.4, then no.
@rdkingram
@rdkingram 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, great video. I have a skr 1.3 with 2208's uart mode. I'm interested in using linear advance and understand the 2208 doesn't work with that. I'm thinking for $12 changing my e0 driver to the 2209. Am I missing anything?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure exactly, I can confirm my 2209's do work with it, so I think that is all you would have to do.
@colinraines395
@colinraines395 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris is the Marlin firmware stored on the Mainboard or on the Micro SD card. Can I transfer the card to exactly the same SKR board as I have a problem with the board in my Ender 3
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
It's loaded from the SD card, but stored on the board. You should have a .CUR file on the SD card, if you rename that to a .bin then you can use that to reload your firmware to a new board.
@okolepuka808
@okolepuka808 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting an BTT SKR 1.4 Turbo for my Tarantula Pro, I want to put in updated drivers, but I need it to be somewhat easy, I'd like to just drop them in. Is 2209s easier than 2208s? How about the higher series with no pot adj, SPI? Any suggestions? Thx
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I would just go with 2209's, the BTT board makes them really easy to use.
@3DreamDesigns
@3DreamDesigns 4 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see you show the setup of skr 1.4 turbo, 2209 on the SK-GO
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I am working on the 1.4 stuff now.
@3DreamDesigns
@3DreamDesigns 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley i have just managed to get mine working SKR 1.4 Turbo, 2209s uart mode and sensorless homing but i did have to drop sensitivity down to 110. I'm also using a trulev probe and i did have to cut the diag pin off the Z axis. Im using the Seckit SK-GO :)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
@@3DreamDesigns Good deal, glad you got it working.
@camberry3792
@camberry3792 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am upgrading my 1 year old Ender 3 with an skr 1.3 (unfortunately I hit buy a couple of days before I saw an announcement about 1.4). I followed a few different source for instructions and configurations, yours seemed the most complete but I ran into one build issue. Atom / Platform.io failed to compile TMC_debug. This is my first time using Atom. I don't seem to have the right library. It completed with TMC_debug commented out. any suggestions?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Atom has been super buggy for me lately. I have switched to using VScode.
@CarlRay5522
@CarlRay5522 4 жыл бұрын
Great information I’m waiting on my SKR 1.3 and 2209s currently from AliExpress
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad I got it out in time! ;)
@hightde13
@hightde13 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know the difference between stallguard 2 and stallguard 4? I tried to find out on the trinamic web site but I couldn't find any information about stallguard 4, only 2.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't, but I might be able to get them to fill us in. I will try.
@BigHorse4200
@BigHorse4200 4 жыл бұрын
Stallguard 4 also works in stealthchop mode
@MarcWagner86
@MarcWagner86 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. How about SPI? Is UART or SPI better? (i have the exact same board and drivers. drivers are the version 1.3 though) Thanks!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Really for what we use them for, they are about the same SPI has more functionality and is faster, but again, on drivers not going to matter much.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use something like BL touch and still enable sensorless homing for Z axis as a precaution? As i hate when the hotends slams to my bend... it once bent the heatguard.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I think you could, I haven't tested it yet, but it should work that way.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley Thanks. Ill look into it when i get my new board installed. Would be really good to have a failsafe, double z motors have a lot of power to bend stuff.
@turdsmurfgamingtechandproj7214
@turdsmurfgamingtechandproj7214 4 жыл бұрын
HI how do I install these on a SKR PRO? also how do I set an SKR pro to now run my ender 5 as when I press home it just shoots off and crashes into the frame and the bed comes right up to tip which scrapes along the glass, same as if I press print I have to press emergency stop I cant print nothing and cant find any guides vids or help anywhere do you know how I can get my printer working?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I would have to look at your config, you have a pretty custom setup.
@RicardoOliveira-mk5xn
@RicardoOliveira-mk5xn 3 жыл бұрын
I installed the tmc2209 on the 4 axis and it's set (Driver Current) x: 800 y: 800 z: 800 E1: 800 And the driver ref v I put 1.25 is correct? Note: They are moving very fast and making noise.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
The vref at the drive will report this when in UART, correct. 800 shouldn't cause them to move faster, it could be another setting.
@Mr0neShotAway
@Mr0neShotAway 4 жыл бұрын
Cool Prusa clone. Do you have a video/guide building it?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Check tom out here. toms3d.org/2017/02/23/building-cheapest-possible-prusa-i3-mk2/
@andreas43
@andreas43 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, can I put these the same way on a mks gen l v2.0?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I think so, shouldn't be an issue, but I am not sure that board has integrated driver support. You might need to use some jumpers to hook it up.
@andyspoo2
@andyspoo2 4 жыл бұрын
If you have 2 x Z motors connected via an adapter to a single driver, when changing HAS_TRINAMIC section, do you need to double the Z_Current ?? e.g. from 800 to 1600
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
No, 800 is more than enough for 2.
@mezianka
@mezianka Жыл бұрын
Thanks you
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@dougw9224
@dougw9224 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. Maybe you can help with this. I am building a printer and the hot end / carriage will travel past the edge of the bed before it will hit the end of travel in the x and y axis. Will I need to change any other setting for homing?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
You mean it doesn't stop when the endstop is triggered?
@dougw9224
@dougw9224 4 жыл бұрын
Not actually sure at the moment. I’m in the process of building a printer and I made the frame large enough for a 300mm heat bed but right now I’m putting a smaller 210 (give or take) bed on it. It appears that the carriage will be able to travel to the left (view from the front) farther off the bed area then just to the edge. So I was wondering how one would adjust for the extra distance before the x carriage hit the frame hard stop for homing. Thx
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
@@dougw9224 Yes, so you will set the X/Y min to a negative number. 0,0 would be the corner of the bed. Anything more than that toward the endstop would be the negative setting.
@eliasferreira340
@eliasferreira340 Жыл бұрын
Will I be able to connect these drivers in another mode without the uart mode
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
You should be able to use stand alone mode, but you might have to solder some pins. Check the BTT github for the manual.
@OffTheWall1320
@OffTheWall1320 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently setting these exact TMC2209 from Bigreetech drivers up on an SKR 1.4. Almost done.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I am still waiting on my 1.4.
@JackWagonOne
@JackWagonOne 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@idogedanken9999
@idogedanken9999 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I would love to ask a question. If I use stand alone STEP / DIR mode how can I set the tmc to perform a full step each time?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
You would pull MS1 MS2 and MS3 jumpers off, that would put them in full step.
@idogedanken9999
@idogedanken9999 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley there is no ms3
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
@@idogedanken9999 Which board?
@boothybuilds
@boothybuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, can you give me a little heads up on changing voltages on sensor less homing? I have both X & y working on a Hyper cube with 2209s on a SKR v1.4. Each axis homes really well individually but when homing all the Y homing clunks a little, it does not crash I cannot resolve with the sensitivity, seems much higher on the V1.4 turbo board at around 130. Clearly something to do with the Core XY set up but I have not figured out yet. I thought reducing voltages on homing might be the way. I have tried dual physical stops so the carriage homes evenly on both sides but this also does not make any difference. Thanks again Boothy
@boothybuilds
@boothybuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, I have just adjusted the voltages, it was staring me in the face, apologies for the request. I have found a sweet balance of 175 for the X current home and 150 for the Y current home. However on initial homing after switching on the Y axis still clunks a little but thereafter on repeat it is fine. I will now start looking at the driver current themselves. I did not realise that both sensor less homing sensitivity and the Driver currents can be individually changed directly from the printer on screen menu in Marlin from the config , advanced settings, TMC drivers menu, which is so much easier for testing. Best Boothy
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Stephen, I am glad you got it sorted out. Take care.
@GioVader
@GioVader 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same set up just that my Z axis will not home and I followed every step. Any ideas?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
Does it crash? is it a 1.3 board?
@cring0101
@cring0101 4 жыл бұрын
How does it compare with TMC2660 (Duet 2 controller board) in terms of noise and current ? It will be perfect if Duet supports the pluggable driver. thx
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
The 2660 will be just as quiet as the 2209, 2660 can handle 2.8amp, so it can support larger motors if needed.
@cring0101
@cring0101 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley thx so much for your promptly reply. : )
@MD-NWWI
@MD-NWWI 4 жыл бұрын
And as always. Great video by the way!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg!
@antonrr90
@antonrr90 4 жыл бұрын
Are These Settings For A 12V Or 24V Setup? And What Would The Differences Be?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
These are for either, these drivers should be good up to 36v I believe. The configs would be no different as far as boards and drivers go.
@heatherryan9820
@heatherryan9820 10 ай бұрын
Ok I’m a complete noob, what is that program that you’re manually entering in M-Codes into? And does that work for other types of printers, i.e. Ender 3?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 10 ай бұрын
We call that Pronterface, check it out here. www.pronterface.com/
@spikekent
@spikekent 4 жыл бұрын
Great walk through Chris. I've had the SKR 1.3 and TMC 2209s on the Borg for a while now, they have made it so quiet and the sensorless homing works perfectly, although I do still have the occasional skipping on X when homing but that's just a little tweak to the sensitivity, which I'll do soon. I too have a parallel coupling for dual Z motors, but I'd rather have them on separate drivers if possible, although that could introduce an imbalance where the Z motors could fall out of sync, what do you think? Would you consider doing a video on setting it up? Currently I use the BL Touch but would still be very interested to see sensorless Z homing and what you think of it's reliability.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Spike! I have thought about doing a video on separate Z motor drivers, that could be interesting. It also has some downfalls. It might make good content. I will start looking into it. With the 2 drivers, if they weren't really close to the same current you might get slow creep. Not sure, we need to test......Science!
@spikekent
@spikekent 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley Very good point, even the differences in cable could cause creep and with bigger Z heights, that would only get worse.
@rramirezx8738
@rramirezx8738 Жыл бұрын
On line 662 in the Marlin in your video What is the difference between using TMC2209 and TMC2209_STANDALONE?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
TMC2209 is controlled through UART (the firmware) standalone is controlled with pins and jumpers.
@rramirezx8738
@rramirezx8738 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley thanks, it's clear to me
@shaxperiment
@shaxperiment 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video about Sensorless Probing? There's so less information about this and i stopped at the message "#error "SENSORLESS_PROBING requires a TMC stepper driver with StallGuard on Z."" (I have a TMC2209) on Marlin. Would be amazing if you could try that probing type.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I have tried before and failed. I am hoping in the next release of Marlin I will get it to work.
@masonchudleigh7990
@masonchudleigh7990 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! how did you wire the inductive probe on the skr 1.3? I have a 5V NPN NO probe and i can't seem to get it to work.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
I just hook mine up the the Z min endstop pins and they work. Might be a bad sensor. I would check the board with a meter make sure that pin has 5v output.
@masonchudleigh7990
@masonchudleigh7990 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley hmm, ill try ordering a new probe. Thanks!
@danieltalavera9847
@danieltalavera9847 4 жыл бұрын
Something cool to try is Power Loss. My XY have sensorless homing, my Z use an endstop. When power loss happens it returns to the right Z position but not for XY, it shifts. Guess sensorless homing and power loss dont go along
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I will have to try this. Might have to re-home to get it to work.
@fusseldieb
@fusseldieb 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is that sensorless homing is unreliable because the motor might flex more on one homing than another and this causes inpredictability in the position. It's nice for one-go print where the zero position doesn't need to be 100.0% accurate, but as soon as you need to rehome and use it again, it'll shift a bit.
@996stoky
@996stoky 3 жыл бұрын
hi i have a skr v1.3 and the tmc2209's in the video and i can not get stealthchop to work in pronterface when stealthchop is enabled in firmware it says it is in spreadcycle for all steppers i have them set up in uart mode atm.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, stuck in eeprom? Try resetting it. M502 then M500.
@996stoky
@996stoky 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley thanks for the reply i will get back to you when i have done this in the process of printing out all parts for motherboard swap
@Buch568
@Buch568 3 жыл бұрын
is the marlin firmware the same as with the tmc2208? (Anycubic i3 mega s)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, just the stepper change is all you will need.
@dad311
@dad311 4 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to verify that the Bigtreetech TMC2209 dont require any soldering for UART mode. Is this correct?
@biskero
@biskero 4 жыл бұрын
yes is correct
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I second that. :)
@grogyan
@grogyan 4 жыл бұрын
Will you be trying the Hemera on the same machine?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe, haven't decided yet, but I will be trying it soon!
@MsWolfling
@MsWolfling 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris, i just downloaded your config from this video to compare my configuration from Marlin with yours. But in your configuration all driver are defined as TMC2208. Can you tell me why? I new in this buisness. :)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 жыл бұрын
That firmware was from the previous 1.3 video and the version didn't 100% support 2209's, but the TMC2208 setting works. Now, the new version of Marlin does. I would go with a newer version of Marlin instead of this one, it's going to be a lot easier to use.
@Br8knitOFF
@Br8knitOFF 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff, Chris- thank you! You should start a Patreon page buddy.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Todd, you can check out the Patreon page here www.patreon.com/brotherchris
@Br8knitOFF
@Br8knitOFF 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley Whoop- done!
@homersez
@homersez Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, thank you for your informative videos they have been a great resource. I have my skr 1.3 with btt tmc2209 v1. 2 and original pinda 2 on my mks2.5s (mini rambo made magic smoke) marlin 2.1.2 and x and y sensorless homing works but when I try to home z it just lifts up a couple of mm and stops. Pinda is on zmin firmware is modified as per your instructions, but no luck with z calibration. I have not cut any diag pins from the steppers or removed the pull up resistor on z min so I was wondering if you could share any wisdom on how to resolve this problem. Oh it happens even if z is parallel set up off one stepper or split to a second z drive on e1. Cheers!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Hello, yes, it's probably the pinda triggering in the opposite way. It thinks it's always triggered. Use a terminal, something like pronterface and run a M119. Does it say Z is triggered? Hold some metal up to it and run it again. If it is flipped set z endstop and z probe to the opposite, probably true. Let me know if that works.
@homersez
@homersez Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley Hi Chris, thank you for your help, your advice did the trick, it was triggering so I set the Z endstop and z probe to false as per your advice and now it homes and bed levels perfectly, My Prusa is back from the dead! One caveat, I did have to change the skr 1.3 pin files and run the pinda from the servo pin P_20 for this to work One question regarding the fllament runout sensor, is that supposed to be triggered or not? Thank you again for your help, if you or anyone would like to look at my config files just let me know
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