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Oh your profile pic... My god

Yeah... two people talking at once = nothing understood + headache

Most of the COMMENTATORS are terrible up here in Ireland, England, Wales, Scotland . Johnston Davies was a Great Player in both codes Rugby . He is a good co commentator . e BuTTler is a terrible commentator . NIGEL OWENS IS THE GREATEST REF EVER . Id trust him in a match Ireland or Munster vs Wales or any Welsh Club .

@@davidlalor9464 Big fan of Andrew Cotter and his commentating.

One year later. Nothing has changed. Still the best referee by miles.

Karma still the best now, only he's decided to retire from International Rugby. The good thing is, he's going to ref more at grass roots level and train up new refs. Imagine a Saturday Youth match, when Nigel turns up to Ref!

Is play not deemed to have stopped at the point in time the (obstruction) penalty was conceded?

It wouldn't be a conversation about rugby without taking a swipe at football in some way, would it? 😴

@LD well i just learned something

An obstruction is foul play.

@@stevenmcalister826 is it? Seems a weird thing to be foul play

@@rhyspowell7857 It is, law 9. Probably since it’s an intentional infringement.

@@stevenmcalister826 that makes sense actually

No. According to referee guidelines, that only happens when there is dangerous play (such has a head-high tackle or a tip tackle) which gets pre-empted by a previous infringement. This comes under the principle of _"no-harm, no-foul"_ The harm from a deliberate knock-on is the denying of a possible try scoring opportunity. A prior infringement means that the try scoring opportunity would never have eventuated anyway so there is no harm done and a yellow card should not be given. However, the harm from an act of dangerous play where contact is made is physical harm to the opponent. A prior infringement does not undo that physical harm to the player, so a yellow card could be given if the dangerous play was serious enough.

No, it's rugby. Rugby players aren't saints.

@@Leifr952 I think what he means is that what rugby calls obstruction (a penalty) is called blocking (a fundamental aspect of the game) in American football.

They are there for a fair match. Ofcourse they can't exactly make it 100% fair but if they can get it as close as they can then that is good enough.

Mr A I agree but sometimes I think it's bordering on too much.

@@Goomlahexpress that's true. it's not a big problem here in super rugby tho. you barely hear from them.

@@mra6308 and that's the problem with SH rugby, not properly utilizing the resources available to officials as it might stop the 'flow' of the game, blatant cheating should always stop a game!

​@@mra6308 But you should! If the assistant referees can call knock on's, forward passes, chasers in front of the kicker etc, why can't the TMO? He should be used as a 4th pair of eyes giving another 33% chance of getting the decision right and, in SH over the past few weeks we have seen a hell of a lot of wrong decisions. I am not advocating stopping the game for the referee to constantly have a look at the big screen, I am talking about a voice in the referees ear very much the same as the assistant referees do. Look at this case here. A TMO intervention changed the course of the game by correctly pointing out an earlier infringement. Penalty to defending team in a kickable position versus a penalty to the attacking team in a kickable position PLUS a yellow card for a deliberate knock down. 6 points and one man down will change the game completely. No supporter would want to give that kind of unfair advantage to the opposition - imagine that happening against you in a tight RWC match...?