Even more weird

Narrator: "It got worse."

Definitely didn't age well recently...

Um, oops?

6 months later, and I have to say... it got a lot worse... and a lot harder to explain

Hi! I’m considering majoring in CS when I go to college, mind if I ask a question or two?

@@Skidoodle18 what's your question bud? Current junior in cs

@@joshuaduplaa9033 What are some skills I can start teaching myself now to prepare?

@@Skidoodle18 basics of coding, logical thinking, etc.

@@stevanmiladinovic4007 Also mental resilience. That one's super important for coding.

Hey lua is good i use lua a Lot

i tried using lua once. Enough said about that.

Lua is js if it was less cursed the only thing holding it back is the lack of keywords for handling prototype (or in lua’s case, metatable.__index) classes

lua’s metatables are scary af. i tried to code a complex game script and it felt like genuine wizardry

because thats how counting works IRL, thats why

I came here for this 🤣

A lot of people have this "Worship" of Linux, it is REALLY good, for certain stuff. Not everything.

@@SioxerNikita alright but how is this one of the things linux is bad at? Device files exist specifically to enable the flexibility to do stuff like this. Each of the 14 keyboards will have an entry in /dev/input/, read from those with a (probably pre installed) simple program and you've immediately accomplished the task that most of this video explains how to work around on windows

@@ictoan1880 I was commenting on Linux in general, not for this specific thing. Linux is an amazing OS, but not for everything. If it ever became amazing for everything, it'd have the same issues as Windows.

​@@SioxerNikitaActually not exactly. Think about the cuts of on Windows Home they only make to sell the more expensive Windows Professional. Or the Driver support, where hardware suppliers just develop for one system and take the most populare one and so on. It's simply lazyness to think Linux systems couldn't replace Windows completely, when software including drivers would only be written for it primarily...

@@tthung8668 why is this showing up now

@The Yangem 5:15

@123seven3 Thanks, I giggled at that, came to comment and you had already made it for me :-p

Was about to say the same thing

See you in 100 years when you look stupid

+colinfurze Never knew you lot got together, or you had a TV show. Wow. Gotta get on to watching that one!!!

I didn't know you were working with him

+colinfurze have you built the bunker yet?

+Alan Kong I remember that show ._.

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i have no idea what you said but this made me smile

@@satan69 APIs allow programs to directly access other programs. When you log into Facebook on your phone, the app stored locally on your phone needs to connect to the database software on Facebook's servers in order to authenticate you and eventually display the database's contents in the app's window. This is done through an API, or Application Programming Interface. Essentially a collection of things one program is allowed access to have another program do for it. That would look like his LuaMacro code asking AutoHotKey to translate the input they just received into plain text, then taking that translation back and finally inputting it into the textbox. Tom's solution was to not bother trying to get the two programs to talk directly to each other (which would be a lot of work for almost no benefit) and to simply have them work independently by doing the equivalent of sticking an anonymous note under a park bench to let your handler know the nuclear codes will be exchanged at 11pm at the docks and hoping the guy knows what to do with that information.

ofc that way. wiring lua up with ahk (shudder) would break the art of the bodge :D

Saving to disk, over an API, is simpler, stupider, less elegant solution... essentially, a bodge.

That’s the bodge xD

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHA😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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​@@loco4loco🤨

same hahaha

@@robertkiestov3734 bruh

Scott Buchanan Any so-called “programmer” who advises against Linux doesn’t know a single thing they’re talking about and should be discredited against further discussion

Robert Kiestov and anybody who believes that someone’s entire argument is invalid because they have a differing opinion is a scummy person who you should ignore because they seem to think insulting other people makes them look cooler

A wild Filing cabinet this kinda sounds rude and there are definitely exceptions, but I guess it’s true what I heard about the Linux community, really really defensive about using Linux

don't worry, holding down shift will add 12 to the number so shift+f12 is f24 and also f22 (shift+f10) is equivalent to the option key (to the left of r.ctrl)

IBM Model F122 time

F in chat

@@creaturedanaaaaa Yup, was thinking of the same keyboard because I've seen that model before - it's fairly expensive though

ibm battleship moments

MATLAB is just a graphing calculator on steroids

@@tatianatub the only difference being that graphing calculators don't crash as often

@@gilpo BAHAHHAHAHA

laughs in python!

@@cricksol What do you mean? Python counts from 0 like most commonly used programming languages not from 1.

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That’s funny: they’ve moved back to emoticons. I see this in english sometimes: emoji are fun, but are often too specific: you can usually get away with :) ;) :/ :| and :(

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No kidding; I've recently been learning GDScript for game development, and it sometimes takes me more than 2 hours to get past a single stump. And I never notice how long it's taking when I'm working through it, because I guess I'm too busy focusing on trial-and-error.

@@oktayyildirim2911 Godot script? That's a strange one. I'm assuming you're a beginner since I believe the engine is tailored for that audience? I started out with good ol' Unity and C# so that script seems very alien to me lul.

@mane I recently went to godot from 3 yrs of unity

Fuk me took me a whole afternoon to realise I put break at the wrong place ..

Kudos is right! I once spent at least 45 minutes pouring over some non-working code only to find I had left out a single period. Code can be SO unforgiving.

We call it "advanced engineering" where I come from.

right? i was with everything up until this

To be fair...the I/O should be very itty-bitty. I mean, it’s not like anyone would just mash keys randomly, right? ...right?

Unless it was a tmp folder

I bridged a python script and an Apache server using text files for a semester 1 uni project 😂

madldeleine celetse linux

@@renzo00 real

​@@renzo00 as tom scott said, no

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Madeline Celeste omg real

I almost fainted

the power expressed looking at the camera and declaring no

Fair? he made his life harder for no discernible reason, in Linux he could have literally just directly read each individual keyboard in /dev/input/ through any programming language.

@@zaper2904 As Tom said - no.

@@zaper2904 who cares this is funnier

No.

CloudianOS Yes.

@@Rachel8260 I'm far past learning, but tell me, how would you learn by not doing anything?

@@williamduncan7401 I can verify, as someone taking computer science, that half of my learning when it comes to my programming is through finding stuff on stackoverflow. I don't know it? Someone else will have done it before. I can then take that code, figure it out and apply it later. It's like formulas; you can know them, but if you don't understand you can't apply it. You can know code, but understanding it helps you apply it later by looking at examples to learn.

@@phantoids as a professional full stack developer, I can verify that as well. However, finding answers on SO doesn't mean copy-pasting code, but actually reading some plain English explaining the solution. And if you're copying code that you do not understand, then most likely problems will occur later on and you won't understand them either.

They better all be RGB or else you aren't gonna outdo Tom.

Same here

How do you spot a Linux user? Don't worry, they'll tell you😳

@@MrHat. nah, using linux alone beats tom, because you just need a simple script to make it work, instead of all those workvarounds

@@null-00000 Got a link to the simple script that will make all 14 keyboards do this in a mainline Linux desktop distro in a Live environment? That’s the bar that needs to be cleared to qualify as simple

Same tbh. Generally I like it when anyone starts rambling on the subjects they like, and I'm prone to doing that as well

Oh I didn't know that, but always wondered, thanks for the knowledge!

etymologically*

Thanks for the fact person with profile picture that looks like a weird Goat!

*E* ?

@@williamshakespeare987 moji!

*One Year Later* "IT'S JUST KEEPS GETTING LOUDER WTF"

Same tbh

5:15 🤯

I had no idea what that was called or why that theme was used thank you

Checks out

Well someone got paid for it so I guess that depends on what side of the table you sit. Your quite funny though I'll give you that.

We have a word here in North America that means the same thing "Chinese Infastructure"

We also have a word for it in Hindi "Jugaad", "जुगाङ"

@@bl1tz533 💀💀💀

@@bl1tz533 it’s funny how americans cope with the fact that their government is completely incompetent at building public infrastructure by pointing fingers at another government which is trying (and succeeding) at housing and feeding the largest population in the world. but i guess you can keep spreading misinformation and western anti-chinese propaganda if it makes you feel better 👍

@@itsukizy watch laowhy86. china’s a failed state, or at the very least very close to becoming one. chinese infrastructure is of horrific quality, chinese buildings made 10 years ago are crumbling yet the east coast of the united states has hundreds of thousands of houses that are over 100 years old.

Reminds me of how they test airplane windshields for their ability to withstand bird impacts. A bunch of complex modeling and simulation? Nah, just fire a raw chicken out of a cannon at it! (yes they do _also_ use models and simulations but that's less funny)

@@renakunisaki always remember to thaw the chicken

@@RobertSzasz or freeze the windshield

Brit Dal Bit Bodge

@@justinepaula-robilliard specifically, under negative G. Previously, the Spitfire had to be rolled inverted and then the stick pulled back before it could be dived. The Me109, meanwhile, was fuel injected and had no such problems. It was also heavier and more powerful.

this needs more likes, good joke.

The edit ruined it

@@HappyGhetto Fixed

@@teaser6089 I have no further complaints

Lmao

these are not really meant for programmers

@@jyotiprakash3423 I know Matlab, and it annoys me every time, because Matlab is a software use by most and foremost engineers. And engineers today needs to be half of a programmer, so they will know other programming languages too. Counting from 1 and not zero is just so stupid...

Or FORTRAN, where indices are whatever you want them to be...those were dark days.

@@jyotiprakash3423 Julia is a big boy language. It features a JIT compiler, metaprogramming capabilities, multiple dispatch and probably the best dynamic type system there is (even better than Common Lisp's CLOS). I honestly think Julia doesn't get the recognition it deserves.

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but only if all the repos align otherwise it's just glitch out.

But don’t forget to stabilise the quantum fluctuations

@@KillaBitz make sure you put this arbitrary text in the config file or it will catch on fire

Wrong port, it’s the GKX port. The VGX port defenestrastes your tangerines

He uses a teleprompter. He admitted it in a recent video.

@@ajs41 which one I don’t think I’ve seen that video

@@ajs41 I defy you to read for 17 minutes straight using a teleprompter, without making a mistake 🙄

@@AlphaGeekgirl He probably does more than one take a lot of the time. But I still think he's a fantastic video-maker.

Who said that's the order it happened in?

@@dIancaster Tom did in the video.

what's weird is that autohotkey also starts at 1

lua = roblox

uhh visual basic has arrays that starts from 1 and lists that starts from 0. Working with that cursed language drained my sanity

@@luck3298 the whole thing is bodge upon bodge upon a bodge

@@luck3298 _> "They all use 1-indexing. It is more logical for natural sciences academics. "_ It is not more logical, especially not in natural science. The reason why it starts on 0 is because that's where everything begin. Our numbers starts on 0, count up to 9, then roll over the next number over from 0 to 1, and the 9 back to 0. - Temperature has a zero point. Coldest isn't 1 K, it is 0 K. Length has a zero point; you can have no length. Well you can argue about the plank length, but it's still calculated from 0. - As Tom Scott showed; using 0-indexing makes maths so much easier: if each container has 15 items, and you have 25 containers, then 0-14 is the 15 items in container 0, 15-29 is the 15 items in container 1, and you can reference this number by using the formula item+(container×15). - A lot of stuff would be so much harder to work with if stuff was 1-indexed; converting inches to mm would be: (inch-1)×25.4+1 instead of just inch×25.4 - Academics, science, programming, all that benefits from 0-indexing. It's we common people who use 1-indexing.

The Museum for the History of Humanity.

I was so disappointed

Really? There is no demo! I want one! It's not too late!

There’s a video of him typing on it, this is just the behind the scenes video

im just disapointed that this has 998 likes

@@MidiMaze178 Strangely, behind the scenes has 1.5M views while the original video had only 600k

the great byte war

it is a book not a quote

“Thomas Edison made the light bulb”

someone watches technoblade

Unless it's a farm

Damn you 4kids! xD

nothing beats a jelly-filled doughnut

You just put me on a nostalgia trip that will most likely end with me rewatching dozens of hours of Pokémon.

Still don't know why they chose jelly donuts, but, considering 4Kids, I'm going to say the answer was generated by a stupid computer. Like really stupid. I'm talking _absurd_ levels of stupid.

@@None-Trick_Pony Because nothing beats a jelly-filled doughnut

And R. All of them use the excuse that it's easier for non-programmers, which I kind of understand, but starting at 1 makes things more difficult later, you're not solving the problem, you're putting it back 6 months until they want to use nested arrays and work out a way to linearize it and convert it back or something similar, at which point the constant ±1 adjustments cause way more problems than just learning that stuff is indexed from 0.

I agree with scragar that it's somewhat acceptable to count from one for Matlab and R which are more often used by non-programmers, but for LUA it's just silly.

IIRC MS BASIC 7 allowed you to define the start of array. Could be 0, 1, 2, anything (probably had to be a uint).

in vimscript, its 0-indexed. BUT, every operation that involves specifying a range becomes end-inclusive. example: say you have a string "hello vim!". you want a substring "hell", so you do this: "hello vim"[0 : 3] notice how the end is the fourth character. the idea behind this (i think) is to be able to do this without error: "hey there"[0 : 0] as a bonus, Neovim has a builtin lua support :D

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Isn't that just coding?

Good title

I am upset with that line

Accurate

PrimaPunchy NESTER OLD BOY HOW ARE YOU?

that happened to me too

Marcin Bator

PrimaPunchy a

Yes it did

Chase Gilley really did

Yep.

Sadly.

It's hard for a joke to age well when nobody's around to hear it

And thus you probably shouldn't shame them

Hence the word "probably".

I was watching this while typing away on my 122 key 1984 Model F, but I had to admit it was fair of him not to assume that 😂

That is a perfectly nerdy thing to have; nice. 🥴

@@davidguthary8147 yes that's the joke

Yes the Martian has lots of bodges "ahem" blows self up making water supply

It’s a fictional film, but the bodge is based on the scientific challenges.

Aight, imma cut a hole out of my pressure vessel for spare material.

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@@bartekblaszczyk bruh

_laughs in IBM F122 Battleship_

I have the Unicomp one! PC-122 gang

_laughs in QMK programmable keyboards_

was just about to make that joke, there goes 100 bucks

F25 key? Im gonna press the f25 key. Get ready

Don't worry, writing elegant code to run complex systems is still better in linux. But we have to decide when to use what.

You're the epitome of everything Tom makes fun of

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@@georgedoty-williams2085 Software developers overwhelmingly use Linux or Mac OS to develop projects. He’s 100% right. Even Microsoft had to yield and implement a Linux subsystem for Windows because quite literally every single developer will say how awful the experience is when trying to dev on their platform. It’s not about being stuck up as much as acknowledging that Linux has a better kernel than Windows, which historically has been bogged down with legacy support with its own kernel.

@@nathandam6415 that’s fair, but I would agree with Tom that a quick bodge that takes advantage of already existing stuff works best in Windows and actual software development works better in Linux. And I don’t think Windows can ever escape its legacy support. If a customers working software stops working on a new version of Windows, Microsoft saying “you need to get the software developer to update it” isn’t a satisfactory response to most end users 😂

origin story

- Tom DeScott

Bodging should be the standard way to make anything, we don't need elegant solutions

​@@xmlstudios Have you ever heard of this obscure thing called Linux?

@@sponge1234ify Linux has some nice architecture, so it's not bodge as windows. But you can make bodges in both

@@xmlstudios it is...

Better than coming home with 15 DVD burners for $15 🤣

One take!

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🕴️ Wow, I actually have it. 🕴️🕴🏻🕴🏼🕴🏽🕴🏾🕴🏿 And apparently it comes in multiple ethnicities now.

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is it already done? I would do it otherwise... :D Is the speed doubled each time, or only increased a bit?

Mischa Behrend like 10%

Mischa Behrend Almat Sailaukhan Please one of you do it!

It would quickly become the shortest video in all of Tom's library. XD

@@mischa7823 so ummmmm whos doing it? i could. just reply EDIT: its already been done

Rena Kunisakithis is interesting

circuit board bodges are extremely common, so dont know if it qualifies for greatest ever.

I wonder what system it would have been for. For byte order to be a thing, it almost certainly would have to be a 16-bit game, but on a single 8-bit ROM. (A split ROM would just need the chips swapped.) Genesis/Mega Drive uses a 16-bit data bus, so not that one, but... yep, SNES only has an 8-bit data bus. But you may have the details wrong, because that particular wiring change would actually turn 0 1 2 3 into 0 2 1 3. The correct bodge would be a 7404 chip dead-bugged to the board and patched into the low address line. I once dealt with a 68000-based system (big-endian) running a Unix clone that for some crazy reason used an LSI-11 bus (little-endian), so when it wrote to disk, every other byte was swapped. (This is known as the "NUXI problem".) If using a LSI-11 bus wasn't enough of a bodge, it was also built into a VT-100 style terminal, which has space for a card cage. When a floppy drive was added to allow porting files over to a PC, and I was making a conversion program for it, I had to bodge in byte swapping in addition to reading from a generic Unix filesystem. Often an old bodge forces a new bodge.

@@8bitwiz_ after listening to Tom’s video, I feel so smart that I can actually kinda understand what you just said

@@8bitwiz_ ah yes that thing yep haha

The sad thing is, a little xdotool might have been a lot easier.

No, no!

@@DanielFoerster If it is stupid, but it works... I mean, using AHK is alot easier than JS or Ruby if you are a newbie, but once you have some xp in anything else, it is weirded. But it works.

Linux with 7 lines of python using evdev could have done it.

clearly tom isn't familiar with linux enough to do it in linux. but the moment when i saw low-level winAPI stuff, i would've given up & considered linux.

You want 14:12 for that line.

WorkYouCrapMachine()

I've found "goddammit" to be as essential a bit of programmer speak as any sort of technical term.

After a while, you just find yourself writing like public string crapFunction (double ugh, string biggerUgh) { this.ugh = ugh; ugh = ugh + someRandomDouble; if (biggerUgh == 'no please help me') { return biggerUgh; } else { biggerUgh = crapList[ugh]; return biggerUgh; } }

There is a Twitter account that posts all the commit messages with swearword on github

@@DunmeriDrain pog

Apparently you were feeling triumphant? 😤

You mean like every time you exhale? WOW... you took a breath?!?

@@computergeek8299 Talk about living up to the stereotype that nerds aren't great with humour...

@@Sompursone I use arch btw

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I read your comment at the exact moment he said it OwO

+Gerben van Straaten The guy is married, you know?

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TheEndergun colonized... i don't get your joke

Reality Productions oooooooooooooh. that's very clever. thank you!

I read that your sides colonized Europe

maximum overkek

And it's almost always freemium with a 7-day trial period.

@@luck3298 three different browser toolbars are installed along with it...

That's a high level solution.

This might a joke, no?

They made a movie about that. It's called "The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill, But Came Down a Mountain."

@@Jazehiah This was also in the Donald Duck comics.

We were all so naïve back in 2015, weren't we?

Why is "emoji" posessive?

The joke won't age well. No one can stay in headlines forever.

@@RisenSlash Eh. He's president. Knowledge of him will probably be around as long as the internet is.

Hahahahahaha

Windows sucks

@@williamduncan7401 i concur

ONLY OPEN SOURCE !!!

Windows is cheaper if you count in your time.

@@louwrentius really? nobody gets the joke?

Hazel Capulus Welcome to FutureWorld

im not sure i get it 🤔

Alternatively, I'd make a political joke but then it might get elected president.

Hazel Capulus I didn't know that emoji was the president of the internet

É nada

that's great! what is it though-?

+Mike Best the big bodge of German cars meeting emissions standards tests ?

+Mike Best I think he's talking about the German reunification (which happened in 1990, if I'm not mistaken?). They patched together West and East Germany.

+Meddie Frercury the reunification was in 1990 but the wall came down at november 9th 1989

Nico Armbruster Just a matter of interpretation which moment in history you want to claim the more "bodgier".

Haha, I came here to say the same! R, SAS, MATLAB... 🤔

Delphi smh

One of the very few design flaws in LUA, yes.

@@johnw.3270 Ha! Few. Good one

@@johnw.3270 Your comment implies there are design flaws in Lua, and someone suggests that one such hypothetical flaw would be counting from 1