Both Toney and Watkins deserve more minutes

He didn't do enough last 2 tournaments but the media somehow said he played well

Saka decided to go into "fine, i'll do it myself " mode and score an Arsenal style goal to draw against Switzerland. That's the outcome of not having your main goal scorer showing up in the box to receive crosses and passes.

Kane has cost England In the last 3 tournaments.. didn't square to sterling in semi vs Croatia to make it 2-0.. played awfully and missed a sitter v Italy amd then missed a penalty to.france. its astounding he's still playing for England.

A fresh Ollie Watkins with give a tired Van Dyke a good run around. If Southgate can use Kane as a substitute we could win this thing....

Rory is correct about Harry not doing enough to deserve his position but how on earth can he not conceed that Harry's status is not holding Garath Southgate to ransum. Everybody can see that Harry shouldn't be playing in this team and is pulling the team under. If you look at Saka's runs and cutbacks and Harry was just ambling nowhere near the box, he was back on his heels. Compare and contrast to the Netherlands who showed fantastic tenacity, energy and pace to get into the box. Sad.

Everyone knows that Kane will play every minute. Gareth is risk averse and won't do anything other than what he knows. Kane is too predictable and when it comes to England, the 'star names' always take precedent over what is right for the team. Until this changes, we can already predict the outcome of this tournament... Don't be surprised.

Give Kane the first 45 minutes, but in the 2nd half of every game so far, he's been dead on his feet after 10 minutes of the 2nd half and Gareth waits until after the 80th minute to make a change.... Too long. Get Toney or Watkins on after half time and make the opposing defence work.

Only last season Rory was almost crying about how Havertz was doing so well at Arsenal after being so poor at Chelsea, short memory

First time ever agreeing with Rory here

I’ve previously defended Kane multiple times but it’s time that he gets dropped. He’s clearly tired and hasn’t got the energy. I’m not saying that Englands problems will solve by Kane getting benched, but Kane needs a rest. Trent needs to start as well.

HK was the centre of discussion during the last euros…??? Same debate now….?? I’m afraid in the biggest games he goes wanting ? BUT….. The setup of England DOES NOT suit his attributes…… zero compassion when playing this season for BM …???

if you have Toney and Kane both up front, and Bellingham slightly behind, I cannot think of any team will be able to defend that, and Trippier(or walker) and Shaw keep crossing the ball from both sides

No doubt Kane has been a great servant for England. However, he's had a shocker this tournament.

Don’t agree with this guy on most things but he’s bang on about Kane,he needs to be dropped but we all know Southgate hasn’t got the backbone to do it

Kane has been poor yet again in another major tournament, he's fantastic at club level and lower tier intentional countries. Southgate is so stubborn and scared to drop certain players

The team is not creating chances for Kane how can you expect him to shine.🤷‍♂️

My only problem with it is Watkins touched the ball about 6 times in a pre tournament friendly and Tony didn't touch the ball against the swiss, its the style of play, the ball doesn't go forward anywhere near enough

You were both praising Southgate earlier and now you want Kane out for Toney, which is something you definitely won’t get with this manager. 😵‍💫

My only concern playing Ivan Toney from the start is if he's needed for penalties Will he still be on the field at the end

Kane has never turned up in big games for England, Tottenham or bayern munich

It's a close run thing as to which is the bigger mystery: The fact that Harry Kane keeps getting picked to play every game in the Euros or that Rory Jennings has a career as a football pundit.

We’ve scored 5 goals in total and Harry is the top scorer for England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Its not out of character he was poor in the previous euros too. He needs resting and bringing on later when the opposition are tired IMO

Olise another English produced player off to Bayern. Kane, Musiala and Olise all produced by England should be our front 3.

Offered more how? He practically didn't even touch the ball. Yet because the ignorant fans are baying for Kane's blood and want to make him a scapegoat, this is what we see. Kane does look a little tired, granted. But what he offers is far more than Toney or Watkins, and he's also more clinical and more likely to score a chance when England need it, as has historically been the case. Kane's goal is the reason we even went through to play Switzerland. Also put us into the final in the last euros. Also qualified us for major tournaments on multiple occasions. A major tournament is not where you start playing new players and experimenting.

Just call it out, anyone that comes off the bench is a better player to anyone who starts.

The 4 3 3 works if used effectively. Southgate was definitely discouraging attacking play on the front foot. It was negative from the start no creative runs or fluid play. This was exposed against Slovenia when Palmer and Gordon came on and it instantly changed yet slothgate didn’t take note and continued with the same team

As poor as Kane has been, Toney is getting some crazy praise because of it. He’s not done anything of note himself other than win a few free kicks. Not that I don’t like Toney, but he hasn’t done much either.

Kane hasnt looked right all tournament and whenever he has any sort of issue he drops deeper and deeper into midfield. We dont need him playing there we have midfielders who can create, we need someone in position to finish the slim number of chances there have been.

I agree, but how many chances are being created

I just can’t listen to this Rory guy

it was only 2 days ago Rory was mocking the idea of dropping Kane

He scores 50 for Bayern literally a month ago finished season on a high now 2 months later he’s too old wtf hahahah

Toney,palmer and trent should start

This has always been England's issue. The unwillingness of the coach to drop their 'big name but old captain' when he's so obviously past his prime. Remember 2018 with Rooney? England were quick, fluid and lively when Rooney was injured in the qualifiers. The moment Rooney came back, the team dynamic changes. England became slow, predictable and unwatchable. The exact same thing is happening now.

Joke 😂. How can you drop Kane ? Playing Gordon will make the team look balanced. Kane isn’t even playing bad.

Man stop playin. The bar is much lower for Toney. Expectations are much lower for Toney. Teams aren’t coming up with tactics trying to stop Toney. Toney is a nice player but he’s not Kane.

Anybody else just switch off when Rory the tory starts talking?

Kane doesn’t offer anything he’s hardly ever in the box saka put the ball in dangerous positions and no one was there he’s always a yard off. Kane will always score goals but he’s physically shot

There's that word unbelievable again and again 😂😂 😢

So scoring the winner and all so scoring another important goal doesn’t justify does it

For once this melt is correct but Southgate will never drop Harry kane

I agree drop harry kane for the good of the team if he starts against the dutch we will. Looose

Its an absolute insult to even bring up Ronaldo in this conversation and comparing to Kane, Ronaldo in his current age is STILL 5x better than Kane. Kane is overrated, English media pumping up their players as per usual .

50% of Kane goals from international knock out tournament are pens. Not saying kane is not great but he is declining and looks tired. And to be fair, England doesn't have a no. 10 or 6 or to feed our strikers.

And Rory hasn't done f all to get a spot on talksport. I honestly do not know one person with anything nice to say about him.

Toney didnt offer anything!Watkins as a sub to Kane next game please

Harry hasn't played well but if going by rorys past saying to drop him means we got to keep him on

Kane has offered nothing. Uncle Jeff would offer more. "Harry's came into the tournament with an injury". Get bent. 😂

It’s very simple, his style of play doesn’t suit the team. He gets into foden and Bellingham’s space, and when Kane gets the ball he has no one running onto his passes down the wing. Add his obvious lack of fitness and it’s clear Toney and Watkins should be in. Again this one is on Southgate

Omg 😦 how very dare you criticise one of the England football players! Don’t you know how heavy the shirt is and what about the players mental health and well being

Start tony bring on watkins for 35mins

I don't like to agree with Rory.... but I'm agreeing with Rory (ffs)

Nobody wins trophies with kane in their team!

Kane needs dropping, he is literally a waste of space this tournament. Saka kept getting the ball into the box and Kane was never there to meet it. I think Saka's shot was more out of frustration than anything...

There really isn’t enough time after the season end for the players to rest.. the quality has been very low.. there needs to be like one month break before these tournaments

If you are Koeman, you figure you can deal with Kane. That means England will struggle again. At the back, he will fancy getting some balls into the box.

These plays play badly and operate poorly, simply because of Southgates, containment, safety first, side, back, side passing football

Which tournament Kane won a Golden Boot?

Kane has been poor in the friendlies and the past few tournaments. Starting slowly in the groups each tournament has become acceptable. Don't understand it. Commentators go out their way even to protect him. Appreciate he is the captain and it can impact the young players but objectively Kane does not fit into the system or previous system. Toney should have started last few games. Spurs played better football after Kane left to Bayern. Under Mourinho, Kane dropping back worked with his assists. England setup needs a pacey poacher who will stay in box, be an outlet for midfield and run in behind the defence. 1st shot vs Swiss was by Saka (goal). No shots by main striker Kane. If it were any other player they'd not get anywhere near the team. The protection of Kane compared to other players is crazy and blatant. If England want to win the tournament then pick a player who functions in the system and not a bystander on the pitch. Southgate will not drop him

Harry did reasonably well. If you observe well HK closes down the back line all by himself. Its only natural he tires out. Notice how when Toney comes in, he doesnt even bother to close down. As long as the rest of the group is not close to HK on his press he will tiee out. HK needs to start every game

Been saying since before the tournament even started that Kane is a liability can he score ? Sure but can we do more as a team with out him ? Absolutely If he can give you a solid 45 mins that’s great but his legs are gone 90mins + he just don’t have the legs He can’t get in the box no More it’s a mess

he shouldnt be dropped. Nob head southgate needs to sub him off earlier. not giving toney one minute.

We would have got better performances out of Michael Caine, but seriously, big Mickey Harford.

Why does Rory the failed actor get air time? He offers absolutely no knowledge at all

Why even discuss it as hell would have to freeze over before Southgate would drop Kane.

Foden is the problem. He hasn't done anything that worth his place in the team. At least harry scored 2 goals

From day one I said. Kane is you problem

Toney is ice cold. ❄️

Whatever legs kane had have gone he should stay up top poacher style stop dropping back so much

Wouldn’t put it past Harry to score a couple v Holland. We’re quick to write people off.

Harry Kane is nowhere near the credibility Ronaldo has.. Kane hasn’t won anything his whole career, it’s very different and absurd 🙃

Harry kane is old enough to be Michael's Son...... Oh wait a minute

Harry is the most clinical player problem is he doesn’t trust his colleagues. This is why he goes deep

Rare Rory W

Kane is been picked for his name! That's England's failure over the years ! Play the form players this big game player excuse is just That it's like Rashford playing with 10 men and ruining the moral of the Team.

Kane has been very poor and if we are all being honest he’s only turned up in a big game a few times in his whole career let alone England career Most of his goals are against the lesser nations sorry but it’s a fact

Your taking mince

Even when rory talks sense (like today) hes said enough shite that i dont want to listen to his opinion.

All this dude does is waffle 🤡

Rubbish Tony did not do much absolutely rubbish

Kane on the bench. He was the worst player on the pitch. He can't run.

Can’t stand Rory will say anything for a click but KANE OUT

Palmer surely has some black in him.

I can’t stop staring at this guys eyebrows

Yeah sure ask any club who would they rather buy Harry or Ivan .

Kane is a good finisher but his overall game is piss poor!

I've not seen Harry Kane outside of the Euros so forgive my opinion but he is 💩💩💩

Poor Kane he is white and slow. Not good for international football in which teams are not very well drilled and organized which doesn’t benefit slow system players.

To constantly imply the opposition defences are not doing a great job at keeping Kane under wraps is rather arrogant and denigrates the work and effort other teams have put into their game plan

Not happy with all this criticism. Gareth is a forward thinking manager and when we win the Euros, he will eventually get the job at United and show you all what you have been missing. Remember, he can get the best out of players. Harry Maguire, Scotty, Rashford, and Shaw. Gareth will get those players going again.

Kane has scored two game winning goals

Stop whining. You lot are in a Euro semifinal.

Gosh, this guy is such a fool. Lol. Never hear Jennings say anything that isn't just the opinion of one man trying to be edgy for clicks.

If we're going to be hoofing it long from the keeper we might as well play Toney. Kane has barely won an aerial duel all tournament.