Tinderbox it's totally ridiculous. And the Canon shutter curtain doesn't block sensor dust, Tony is mistaken, it's made to block light for decay, not dust. I don't buy his complaint at all, DSLRs had tons of dust, try using a magnifying LED loupe that technicians use to clean sensors, your DSLR will have dust.

I think what he means is that they should change it to a hold and turn mechanism. So you have to keep the button pressed down while turning it. That way it's fast but still protected.

I think the problem is that many of these buttons move easily when you bump the camera. Like my Canon body, I can have it powered on at my hip all day and the shutter/aperture/Exposure Compensation stay set. After 5 mins of walking with the Sony, anything set to a wheel will likely have changed. I look forward to the lock button, but I think requiring a bit more pressure to turn the buttons would help too.

@@CharlieVN Where do I buy this magnifying LED loupe? I need to assess my sensor's hygiene

@@thestevewood Sony got it right, press and hold is annoying, but it works well for some things, not with others. For event photographers where light conditions can change minute to minute, having it fully unlocked to change on the fly is crucial. The only time it really has trouble with accidental movement is when you put in or take out of your camera bag, those are the times it should be locked, especially with a tight bag. To claim it it normally wanders around is laughable.

These reviewers are really just here to put up a show.

I think the point here is, "Fix the ex comp so that it doesn't accidentally change, but (at the same time) keep the process of shooting natural". Perhaps a solution like, depressing the knob to twist would have been a better way to address it. Yeah, his response sounded a bit ... crazy lol, but I get what he's saying. The request was actually "fix the problems, but don't break up any natural flows that happen during creativity". Now, there will be trollers who say, "I have no problem pushing a button and then twisting, and then re-pushing the button..." (and for tech guys, we can always figure it out...) but i don't believe that's what he was trying to suggest. Just my thoughts...

I have a button assigned to Exposure Comp. I keep the dial locked and use the button/software to change setting. I can see what I'm doing in the viewfinder ... I very seldom us the rear LCD.

I must not be the only one that keeps hitting it (I have a a7ii). Caused more bad shots than any other tech problem.

It is VERY annoying when on a strap I have to check my A7iii to see if I accidentally adjusted my exposure compensation. Thank God for the dynamic range or I wouldve lost a lot of photos.

Yep. Waiting for him to complain that it can't drive his car for him.

Also, the lock is a switch, you can put it in either locked or unlocked positions.

Or air compressor with HEPA filter inside to repell the dust when the lens is off. :D

The camera should cremate the dirty sensor and then a teeny tiny sensor factory inside the camera will produce a new image sensor that replaces the old one. Problem solved!

Wiktor Nowak maybe that’s what the speculated fan on the upcoming a7siii will be for?!!

Dust eating amoeba's chained to the sensor.

@@wikrap1 Compressed air isn't a good idea with photographic equipment.

😂

You would at least think they could build a camera I can blow up Canada with.

This made me laugh

🤣

Right! Ridiculous.. He wants another cellular monthly bill for his camera! 😂

Just pull the battery out before you swap the lens, and dont turn off the camera with the switch. The shutter will be down. ;)

@@chrnaf that isn't convenient on wedding shooting 🤣

And what a beautiful colours Canon R creats right out of the camera in video that recorded this review

Admiral Akbar that’s the dumbest excuse I heard unless you know how to use the camera you might as well stick to a budget DSLR

I hate you too

problem is not really the price of the body, it's more the price of the lens in my opinion with nikon you have more cheap used option

@@nevakee716 I just underwent that painful proces... if you don't do video Nikon has much more affordable lenses. the problem is that the ztf adapter make the lenses sooooo noisy. unusable for video. I hate that. I had to go sony

@@bobceffo ah ok, didn't really do video, I plan to buy dji ronin sc and start a little bit, I mainly plan to use the 24-70S

Alan Ho-Yee 🤣

It’s such low hanging fruit. You could give this to a high school design student and it would be improved

Oh man that certainly is an appropriate description of it.

LMAO

That's not fair to abstract art - A Jackson Pollock painting makes more sense than the Sony Menu...

nice ignore the negative post ....

That was soooo annoying!

Tooo much

:D :D :D :D

@@MerveDemirci or the poor batter having to power wifi/cell signals ......... no thanks i can deal with HOOKING up a usb C cable to my computer i dont know why he must take out his "floppy cards"

@@MerveDemirci Aha :). Özür dilerim ama bir pop şarkıcısının burada olmasını beklemezdim. Saygı duydum ve tüm şarkılarını büyük bir bekleti ile dinleyeceğim (progressive rock dinleyicisiyim).

rofljao write to a built in SSD, then sync to the cloud at your leisure...

@@DeadLead Selam :) Pop şarkıcısıyım ama yıllarca rock da söyledim, progresif olmasa da :) yakında pop ama biraz da rock bir şarkım çıkacak, teşekkürler destek için :)

I have commented before on one of Tony's videos about sensor dust on A7* cameras. I swap lenses regularly on my Sony bodies and dust is a minor issue for me. I have to clean the sensor sometimes; say once every three or four months when I notice a dust spot on my images. I wonder whether this is due to different atmospheric conditions, centrally heated homes (which dries the environment) or different materials used in camera bags that are more or less prone to static charge.

I've only just switched to Sony, but already got dust in my A7Riii. I'm actually going to clean it tonight, so I'll have to see if it gets any more dust than I saw on previous brands(Fuji, Olympus, Nikon)

I've also personally noticed that I somehow end up with sensor or lens dust more often with the a7r iv than I did with my old Canon DSLR.

I even get sensor dust on my A7 IV, which has a sensor protection. It’s not as bad as it was in my old A73 and A7R3, but i still have to clean the sensor every few weeks

All valid criticisms. It just depends on what you're used to how much it would annoy you. Having never had sensor dust on any camera, that would put me off instantly. I think the rest I could live with.

@@cooloox Thats impossible with digital camera's unless you never changed a lens in the wild. I never noticed much difference with Canon, Nikon and Sony. I got dust with all of them.

As an iPhone user of course you love it!

r/choosingbeggers

He loves it, too. Just not unconditionally.

yep that won't happen !

exactly..send it to me and watch me make it work well...

Rocket science.... I came from cameras that this dial didn't exist...

@@CockpitScenes maybe he means a lock button that you have to hold down while turning it. Quick and safe!

Didn't Tony say his problem with the dial was that one could accidentaly turn it if not locked and when locked it took an extra second or so to change it. Maybe the solution here would be that Sony made the dial a bit less sensitive to turn?

Carl Bergsdorf the dial is already recessed and not sensitive.

@@CockpitScenes I was expecting the dial will work only as long as you keep the lock button pressed for example. Don't really know if will be worse though, don't have this problem with the normal dial.

It's not the issue that it buffers but that it locks of some functionality which it could not to. For example when Canon DSLR is cleaning buffer You can change ANYTHING like AF mode, point, exposure parameters etc. As opposite Canon M5 was not able to even take another photograph. You need to wait for the full buffer clean until You could take another image which was ridiculous. Normal camera let you take a picture as soon as there is any place in buffer and let you change settings normally.

@@wikrap1 GTFOOH, normal camera's, which the a7riv kill, don't do even close to what this thing does, so who cares if they allow you to shoot while buffering. Tony is nitpicking for the purpose of making a video.

@@craiggagnon8407 But he is mostly right - there is no ideal camera system at the moment. Anything has some flaws even if it's the best on the market. I care if I can shoot while buffering cause I'm a reporter and it was holding me back.

I found this complaint ridiculous... if you shoot sports properly you don’t even fill the buffer. Tony literally just filled the biofeedback on purpose, what is this 10fps or something? He shot for 5 seconds lol, what sports do you shoot for 5 seconds haha... crazy complaint

@@kevchallis2371 I write again it's not the matter of fully filling the buffer but that some options are unavailable if anything is in the buffer so if You shoot a 5 shots seriers You are freezed for a couple of seconds before You can for example switch to APS-C or change AF mode and there is no reason for it because it's technically possible to handle it. It's a software weakness and it is serious in some situations.

I feel that the "Sony menu" hate comes from people not wanting to learn how to work the menus. I feel the same frustration when I got a Panasonic camera and even Canon. Hated the menu system from them when I first opened them. Then I still used it, and got used to them, learned where to find what I needed. This is coming from me having used Sony since the NEX period. So I've been accustomed to their menus, and find them easy to navigate.

You're comparing a Sony last generation camera VS a 2012 dslr...

I don't know how you can say that. My D750 is WAY easier.....

You’ve made the great mistake of giving Tony’s very reasonable video a very reasonable answer. I share your feelings about Nikon menus, which I find just as frustrating as Sony’s. The saving grace for Sony is its configurability. Taking into account the TWO quick-menus (one for video, one for stills), the many configurable buttons, the my-dial and the my-menu, I hardly even need to use the “regular” menu during a session-and I love being able to switch between crop-mode and full-frame with the press of a button. My only real complaint is that I’d like 3-5 more configurable buttons or an extra dial, which would be the equivalent of 5 more buttons.

That's weird, I've always shot SLRs/DSLRs (Canon in my case) and I've literally never had dust on a sensor. On the mirror, a couple of times, on the sensor, never! You mentioned surf. If I was shooting surfers everyday then I'm sure dust would become an issue. I'm super careful to change lenses quickly (one in my hand ready to go on before the other comes off) and to have my back to the wind.

If you compared this Sony to a D850 and not a dinosaur you wouldn’t have those complaints. Pressing 1 button to lock the mirror up (which protects the sensor) makes it harder to clean? The one time in 2 years you need to do it? I had a wireless trigger even back when I owned the D800. D850 shoots silent, has a tilting touchscreen, automatically sends your photos & videos to your phone, has dual cards, backlit buttons, fast and accurate focus tracking, huge buffer that doesn’t cripple the camera, long battery life, etc. You said carrying a “Sony with a couple of lenses is nothing” yet carrying a “Nikon with Big Glass is a whole lot heavier’. Since the glass is the heavy part of your gear, of course if you take Big Glass for the Nikon and small glass for the Sony it will be heavier, and you will get way better results with the big glass. LOL - try comparing the same things. When you carry Big Glass the difference in the weight of the body is meaningless. In fact the smaller mirrorless bodies do not balance as well when using Big Glass, and are much harder to hold and operate unless you have small hands. I don’t have small hands. I always have the grip on my D850 bodies. That’s one of the reasons why I bought the D850 after trying out the Z7 ... but there are a lot of advantages that made it an easy decision. One day Nikon will release a mirrorless that is geared for pros, capable of matching the performance of the D850. Hopefully it will be the same pro size as the D850.

Exactly. Why would you want to reprogram it to another, NON-lockable dial? His argument made no sense at all.

I never use it. It's on the back dial as it was on my 7AIII.

may be this guy don't know about modern technology!!!!!! watch his go pro fusion video, he uses an under powered slim hp laptop that doesn't even have graphic card to render 5k video files

may as well be, every other device has gone microSD card format but good ol' camera tech still has the 5.25" floppy disk equivalent.

@Nature Photography Show Should be sinch with the new DNA altering 5G :D

If one of the meanings of "floppy" is "flexible", then an sd card is a floppy disk.

He was obviously being facetious. He was comparing smartphones where you don't even see how files are managed to the camera that has physical things that you have to move between the phone and your computer. The difference is comparable to going back to floppies.

LOL!!

He's incredibly smart, but equally stubborn/impatient.

Yeah, if these are the 'worst' issues with this high spec camera, it must be very good!

A good UX designer could fix most of those issues... the sensor dust one is the real dealbreaker here...

It’ll never happen! I’m pretty sure that the camera companies work together to make sure. In fact, there was a board meeting about that… * fade to black *

winner :)

Tony seems to want to make a living from his videos rather than making them to make me personally happy! Bastard!

TexMex, the comments on this post are referencing the ultra-hilarious Camera Conspiracies KZfaq channel.

For some, and for me that are really annoying though. I can live with small buffer, but not able to change a lot of function while it is clearing the buffer just doesn't make sense. Also as for menu and how deep it is just doesn't make sense. Sure, it will be only if you are the only user for the camera but it doesn't happen if it is in company and shared between different videographers/photographer. What he said about it is a pain to change MSAP in menu for movie doesn't make sense neither.

Hey Matt. . .I'm an older photographer (started out in the film days) and I absolutely LOVE the advancements in camera tech . . .You're comments are some of the best I've read, but I must say that many of the others really sound almost silly. The ability to take fantastic photos with almost any camera these days is terrific. But the complaining and nit-picking that I read in many comments sounds like a spoiled child stamping his feet because he didn't get everything he wanted for Christmas. If someone considers themselves a good photographer they should be able to take an "older" DSLR out and still come back with some amazing photos. Yes, the newer "higher-tech" cameras will make it easier to do that, but it almost sounds like people aren't going to be happy until their camera damn near does everything for them. Don't get me wrong, I really love all the new advancements, I just think people should really appreciate how great cameras are these days, and quit complaining so much. Technology will continue to evolve, cameras will keep getting even more amazing, but in the meantime just get out there and get some great shots with the cameras you already have (or can afford). I have a young neighbor who is just getting into photography. She cannot afford the latest and greatest equipment and she's wondering if maybe this just isn't something she should pursue. She showed me her camera and some of her photos. . .No, she doesn't have the latest and greatest camera and lenses. . .BUT what she does have is a great eye and visual talent. I've encouraged her and told her NOT to listen to the people who have told her she can't get great shots because her camera isn't the latest or as good as theirs. I told her to just continue to develop as a visual artist with the camera she has, and when she can afford the latest tech she'll really be ready for it. It just seems the obsession with specs and tech these days has kind of gone over the top. I work with a guy who constantly talks about the specs of his camera. He showed me some of his photos and believe me they were NOT special in any way. He laughed when I told him the camera I was using at the time. . .and he NEVER asked to see any of my work. He just assumed my photos couldn't be any good and he wasn't interested in seeing them. . .And he then started spouting the specs of the newest camera he was going to buy next. I'm just getting tired of that kind of attitude that I'm running into more often these days. But you made some good points, especially that the best camera is the one you know how to use. . .You're so right!

@@BluesImprov It's just that the tech is so amazing but there are some limitations which are not the tech limitations but kind of a bad design and could not exist. That's the frustration. I don't know the solution to get additional 5EV of dynamic range but can imagine that fully articulating screen would be helpful and can't imagine why it's not there as it's not a rocket science. Just a simple hinges and flexible signal tape. That's the source of frustration.

Great breakdown !

BluesImprov - When you go from a DSLR that has a huge buffer that doesn’t cripple the camera, to a newer model that does, you obviously miss the feature. Could be nit-picking but only if you don’t care about the feature. For many it is a deal breaker.

Lol right

Have a real board meeting and show them a camera conspiracies board meeting 😂 Board meeting inception! 😂😂

HAHAHAHah good one man also Sony should bring Camera conspiracies on the board meeting aswell

Crystalix007 I was thinking that too 😂😂

And that's why Tony is going do this more often 😂

Camera Conspiracies the only real camera review

Too late canon about to take it away from sony..sony had a good run while it lasted.

mark cowart if you have dust you will only see it if you stop down your lenses. Best way to tell if you do is to shoot a blue sky at f8 or higher.

Spot on where were the UX/UI designers and beta testers for this camera? Not just the menus but the whole body ergonomics are sub optimal.

@@peterlemke3468 Agreed , and coming back to the wifi functions , Bluetooth and interconnectivity and user friendliness with other devices , it really is just bad .

what in blazes is this nonsense? Apple does things differently than Android and vice versa. Surely, both have flaws, but complaining about certain issues like the expo comp or youtuber screen without context is bonkers. I'de love to have the S1H screen, but pick between articulating screen vs tilt is fairly easy for me, tilt all day. Panasonic recognizes this issue very well, the tilt screen is MUCH faster for dynamic shooters. it also lowers your footprint, but it also has flaws. Pick your poison or the S1H, best of both worlds. Even canon doesnt do articulating screens all the time, their M cameras offer tilt screens..... so Canon must be doing it wrong......

Coincidentally, the a7r iv uses the flip phone keyboard

W N You actually make phone calls with your smartphone? How... quaint I’ll take a computer that happens to also make phone calls over a dedicated phone that can’t do much else any day of the week.

It is a big issue. I am always blowing out the dust before a paid shoot. The one time I forgot there was like 5 areas on the sensor with dust.

I've never understood how anyone can accidentally turn a dial. Is this when using the camera, or when pulling it out of (or putting it into) your camera bag?

@@cooloox It's not while using the camera, it's while taking it out of the bag, walking around with it on my hip, etc etc. It happens literally every time I use either of my A9's lol

Heck yes. I mostly shoot with an A7iii and often click the exposure wheel taking it in/out of a bag or walking around while it’s resting on my hip.

Andy Mckay I did and the Canon EOS R with firmware 1.4.0 beats Sony’s eye autofocus by a mile. Canon is seriously stepping it up!

@@marcellives That's really interesting. I was looking at picking up the a7iii but I might look at canon again now that they have made a big improvement like this.

. . . and don't use the A7Riv as a pro sports camera. It was not intended for that.

Datta Groover That’s fine you can use it for that. Definitely not a first choice, but it’ll do great. But no one shots sports like that.

I agree I can't live with having to clean my sensor once or twice a day that would get on my nerves real quick

@@ryansatterlee1278 it can also get expensive as the good swabs to clean em aren't cheap either. sometimes u need to use multiple sensor swabs to get it completely clean because after one use its contaminated

Oh you poor bastard thinking this was a legit review. Lol. The sensor dust thing is complete garbage. Shoot landscapes and wildlife and never once had issues even chasing lenses while out. So many other shooters have the same dealing except for Tony mr KZfaqr first photographer second. Lol.

Well said.

He rapid fired like 30 shots 😂 it seems like he is a perfect customer for the A1

@@sergiogonzalez618 😂🤣😂

I do Motorsports and Airshows. Not unusual to do 5,000 plus images in a week. Buffering is a huge deal to me. This is why i use Nikon D5 and D500 bodies. Yes the buffers fill but they right quickly and I can still access menus and shoot during the coping to cards. With Nikon now support CF express cards buffering has become a thing of the past.