That comment also hits home for anyone working for universities. By the time I left my last position, I was carrying the load of two faculty members and a program associate.

Be careful of this. You are probably making too much money now. They could have in mind to get you so fed up you quit. Salary problem solved. At this point if you're not going into management what are you doing there. You should ask yourself this. Knowledge on how things in your organization works is valuable. In a retail setting it has been my experience the more I knew the more taken advantage I was. This threat of getting written up for not completing assigned tasks in a retail work place is a psychological tactic designed to get you to work harder. Keep your employee hand book available. Document everything. Day, time, location, who spoke to you. Sorry if I come across so intense. This is a hot button topic for me.

​@@susanplunkett5193 Your comment proves the point that putting pressure on your current staff to do more is not right. It is not a long term solution for the lack of resource planning. Especially when you can lose your job tomorrow through no fault of your own AND giving maximum effort.

@@AgChic1985Why don’t you become the DEI director instead? You could get paid a fortune for race baiting and resentment-stoking.

@@AgChic1985 Truly? I work at a very prestigious university. And I find it's just the opposite. My boss is very cognizant of not making anyone work past their work hours. There have been times when we were understaffed, and it took the boss a LOT of work to get approval to hire more people. Even still, he didn't expect us to work beyond our standard 35 hours a week to get the work done. I can't say if it's like that in every department in the university, but it is in ours. It's not the company as much as the manager that makes work satisfying or a drudge.

Bingo.

Woo! 69th like!

Also a good way to make sure they keep dumping MORE work on you with no additional compensation.

In California they must be paid the rate after 40 hrs depending on class. Managers may be expemt

Then get an hourly job. Don't take a salary and complain. This is what salary is for. You're being paid quite a bit more so your paycheck is predictable.

Great way of letting them know that they would be incriminating themselves for the illegal acts they are committing by coercing employees to work without compensation. .

It has worked quite well for me in the past.

​@@SongOfSongsOneTwelvewell as a salary position its not the same rules but as she pointed out her Salary is based on a 40 hour week but that DOESNT mean they have "unlimited hours" at the discretion of the employer fortunately due to both Federal but also State Laws. I love how in my State of MA that while salaried positions exist and dont require the hampering of being on a standard timeclock even though they, as typically managerial positions they are typically "On Call" they are STILL obligated to pay overtime and even DOUBLE time if its past I think 50 hours.

Will be using this

It's better to send an email laying out the request to work 60 hours a week, that you will continue to work 40 hours as that's the agreed upon contract, then lay out how much money you would be willing to take on that 60 hour week for. They always say no, but now you have it in writing that you offered to do the extra work and they declined.

Not to mention illegal. If you are only paid for a forty hour work week. It is illegal to demand overtime without applicable overtime pay. Even if you a contacted salary employee. They demand overtime they must compensate.

But when they let you go, there's no kind of family talk. They just screw you

@@mw-pl5rg not necessarily jobs when you agree to salary you also agree to work overtime without overtime pay. Funny how people complain about that but you do also still get full pay even if you only work 25 hours you’ll get paid for 40 hours. How is that fair 🤷🏾‍♂️ salary has its pros and cons

@@HawaiiVenom392 Serious question, do people who work to get paid for 40hr/w actually ever only work 25 hours in a week? I've never heard of it, myself. I only ever hear, work for 40, get paid for 40 or work 50+ and get paid for 40.

Right? There are a few things I'm willing to do on my way out the door (effectively clocked out/unpaid), but it's stuff like "drop this in the mail room on my way out" or "carry a few broken down boxes to outdoor recycle bin" (because I pass both on my way out), but it's very much things that are not expected of me regularly, don't take more than a few minutes, and either are not or are only minimally out of my way. Big difference to me for doing < 5 minutes of unpaid work once or twice a month at most and pulling 20 extra hours uncompensated.

😂That’s a fantastic comeback! I’m so sick of all that team player “family” BS! Where’s all that lovey -dovey BS when I’m struggling and I need help or a little understanding, when I need real support?! Don’t bother looking for it because it’s not there!

​@@antoinettejohnson6251 "the family" will be hiring the next morning if I died or something happened to me

Thank you

Underrated comment!

OOOOOH! Nice one!

If you agree to work salary you agree to work overtime without overtime pay. That’s how salary works if you’re unhappy with it you can negotiate to change your salary pay. But regardless you’re obligated to work the overtime. In Walmart they even tell you that before you agree to be on salary. It has its pros and cons Pros: you can take vacations and if you work short hours like say you only work 25 hours you’ll get paid 40 regardless. Cons You overtime without pay 🤷🏾‍♂️ I know a lot of managers that actually take advantage of the salary system. Especially during slow time I had one manager literally take 3 month leave for no reason and got paid for all 3 of those months

​@@HawaiiVenom392 Europeans watching these comments and videos like 🤔

Ah yes. If everyone had a law degree. Sadly

​@@HawaiiVenom392if they signed a contract that specifically states they are required to work 40 hours to earn their salary, no more - no less, then the company requiring them to work more than that without additional compensation (whether it be pay or PTO) would be in breach, and can be sued. If there is no employment contact and the employee is exempt (salaried), then you are correct - the company is not breaking any laws by requiring them to work overtime without pay. Not saying it's morally right, but it's not illegal. So...all salaried employees should make sure they have a contract, or make sure their employee handbook outlines what constitutes their definition of an exempt employee.

@@HawaiiVenom392wrong. What you described is an exempt employee. Non-exempt salary exists and is entitled to overtime pay. So many companies count on people not knowing this and is one of the major contributing factors to the fact that wage theft is the most prevalent crime happening in this country, and the least reported and prosecuted.

Needs to be embroidered on a pillow.

Could you please clarify it? The boss promised promotion but the employee refused cause she prefers to keep her work and life balance? Or because she is not sure the promise will come true? Which of it is true?

​@summersunday8965 Good question! The answer is both.

I've been promoted twice. I've no idea why. I show up, know my job, do my job and even sometimes have fun doing it. But as far as other people's jobs in the company go, I haven't the faintest idea how to do them nor would I attempt such a thing. I've never been asked to "cross-train" because of layoffs or insufficient resources. THAT'S how a business should work.

Please keep us posted on your success!!!!

😂😂😂😂 Good luck!

Good for you!!! All the best❤❤❤

Best of luck to you. I hope it goes very well.

Who's Lauren? Perhaps you're doing a Jeremy Jerrycan by deliberately messing around with the name?

Oh this shit absolutely exists its just that its not in every industry or job type

Wait, your kids have a laxative game? What?

@@Lycanthromancer1it’s short hand for Lacrosse

@@mageofdoomsie1598 That's dumb. There's no X in Lacrosse.

@@Lycanthromancer1 there’s no X in Christmas either but that doesn’t stop people from saying X-Mas. It’s not really an “x” either, it’s supposed to be a “crossed out” symbol, which becomes a play on words with lacrosse (la-cross, get it?)

I mean... Upper management doesn't speak like this though. They're not upfront about screwing over their associates. You're not going to be told that weekends and long nights are planned. It's always more in lines of "we need to have this done by Monday morning or heads will roll" type stuff. So if you're able to finish the work during work hours good for you, but if you can't... Long nights and weekends.

This is a near identical conversation upper management had with me on one of the many occasions we were short staffed. They had no problem saying they expected everything out of me and that compensation was not approved. I have also heard the “heads will roll” you mentioned…🤣

​@@fannyfreckle- What happened?

Right!! My company would probably fire me if I said half of what is ultimately true some times even if I said it professionally

@@lovelytee84 That is true. Even though these videos are great, IRL many people cannot risk their livelihood by pushing back. Most people in the US are working in "at will" states. Employers can dismiss you for any or no reason. With or without notice. Jobs, especially well-paying jobs, are not always that easy to come by. You had better have enough in your emergency fund before using these techniques. You need to be prepared for the consequences just in case it doesn't go over well.

Fear will not advance one's earnings, and never has... If a company is offended by us standing up for ourselves... there's other companies hiring... - fun fact? I didn't eventually get to 200+k/year in the trades by letting people walk on me...just a FACT. - Never forget... the Employees Are Creditors? In a tight Labor market it's a fantastic time to "slide advancement"... Also a FACT.. If we don't value ourselves, management Will... in their personal quarterly bonuses... Also a FACT.. Life is about choices.. Good Luck 👍😁 (Hint?) It's a well known phenomenon within management circles that the average employee is generally TERRIBLE at compensation negotiation..and the data bears that our,...as does this very thread..💔💔 -Hint? (This will boost confidence And negotiation...) Log and document achievements, contacts, and accomplishments, everything to which one contributed/participated... IN WRITING. Learning these negotiation skills will do MORE to advance lifetime earnings potential than ANY 3 classes, or donating time to management bonuses... The Truth is harsh...

I know, that's ultimately what it comes down to but i know if I said that IRL i would be immediately terminated

Mir fällt jedesmal die Kinnlade runter.

And we Americans are delusional enough to refer to our country as "the land of the free." I have to laugh to keep from groaning.

We Americans are in an abusive relationship with our employers.

That's why our GDP is 6 times yours.

@@iamchillydogg Oh, Kind. Alles okay bei Dir?

I’d fire her.

Amen! Compartmentalization is not laziness!

And remember, if she works beyond her contract, they can use that to break her contract.

If you're in the U.S., you likely don't have contract. It's employment-at-will.

That's a time and a half of overtime pay.

You need to determine if you can be categorized as exempt or non-exempt. Non-exempt salary employees are entitled to overtime. Many employers mis-categorize employees (either accidentally or intentionally), thinking salary means they can make you do whatever they want.

Having a salary and not being entitled to overtime are not the same thing. You can have one, both, or neither in your contract.

"...should promotions come around" _So you're telling me there are none available at this time._ This doggie doesn't do tricks unless there are treats available.

Yeah, the only option there is "Deliverables, deliverables, deliverables." Quite literally, a contract around effort put forth followed by promotion to x level within y time. Without, it is just a carrot held in front of the donkey.

And why would they ever promote you out of a position where you provide them with free labor?

You will never get that promotion as it will go to the family of your boss.

It has taken me too long to understand this. Thanks for your comment!

It sound funny but that's what they say, they string you along and try to make you play their stupid games

@@svenbtb that's for sure. It's why I always advocate to trying to keep a Fuck Them Fund, so you can quit without much worry.

If they're actually your friend they should be respecting your boundaries and not shoving their work on you. If they have too much work on their plate, that's a conversation they should be having with their manager, not with you.

Sounds like they need to hire an assistant

Thank you for posting this. People have to realize that it's OK to help out in an emergency, illness, etc. Because it could happen to anyone. In most cases, people will return the favor. And who knows?, you might need them one day. .

​@@shizucheese Yes they should have. Doesn't change the point. Telling the perpetrator of these practices _toodaloo_ is, or at least should be a lot easier than going "not my problem" on one of their victims. Regardless of how _technically accurate_ it is. Yes I would put down "Next time don't accept this crap" as a condition for my help, and in the next meeting with the manager bring up "Well, I just saved you a crapload, by preventing a burnout on *your* watch." But to burn-out a friend to send a message to management, no, not without warning.

@@user-jn4sw3iw4h You're missing my point that if a "friend" is trying to get you to "help" them with their work without any regard for the fact that you already have your own responsibilities and that they would basically be putting you in the same position that they themselves are in, you might want to rethink if they really are your friend.

Europeans are lazy.

Americans have labor laws too, we're just not educated about the rights they afford us and we're told we're wrong whenever we try to exercise those rights. They're also not well enforced, sadly.

@@CaTastrophy427 Basically, Europeans are lazy.

​@@CaTastrophy427 I suppose another reason we in Europe don't feel so pressured to work long hours for extra money is we have social safety nets like health care, yes we pay for them through tax and affordable health insurance with good cover but it doesn't seem to be as costly as what workers in the US have to pay.

@@KarenMariaMcCormack well those social progams have been cut to the bone and is in many aspects reduced to the same as or not much more than foodstamps and section 8 in the US ,,the results of burdening a system built over generations with millions more dependants from overseas

Similar in Austria. I need to sign an additional contract which specifies the overtime. The compensation is generally ruled. In the contract there can only be better conditions. And I don't need to accept that. Only higher ranks have contracts with included and not specified overtime. And even they fall under the working time regulations which would not allow 60h/week for a continuous time.

What do you expect, the USA is a third world country to me...all conditions are super bad, employers and the state don't care if their people are healthy or even alive.

Unions just add a second layer of middle managers dipping into your paycheck negotiating for work practices that make the job a living hell for the few remaining employees that actually care about being productive and protecting the employees with seniority while getting the low seniority workers laid off every downturn.

​@umaikakudo - The unions I'm familiar with have negotiated for "better" working conditions, quite the opposite of your experience. Do you happen to live in a "right-to-work" state?

@@priscillamoore5736 No. Washington is an at will state. Boeing in WA is the poster child for the way unions ruin a work environment and hamstring a business with their "worker protections" narrowly defining job descriptions and destroying the labor pool of the next generation by favoring seniority over skill and results.

​@@umaikakudoClassic pro-corporate, anti-union propaganda. Unions allow workers to partner with their employers on equal-footing rather than be non-human, disposable cogs in their relentless pursuit of profit over all. Also, unions are the ONLY reason that terms like "the weekend", "40 hour work week", and "paid time off" even exist at all.

@@umaikakudo Unions still have a place in the work force. There are companies who genuinely treat their workers right without a union, and there are some that would have their employees living off the streets if they could and the union is the only thing preventing them from doing so.

Meanwhile most of the Baby Boomers are mad at us for doing it.

Wasted my 20's doing that kind of crap. My prime years gone, and in the end I lost everything I sacrificed them for. Job, house, car, all gone. Complete waste of time. I always tell younger people to work hard, but don't sacrifice your personal time. Don't be like me. Enjoy your best years, don't work them away while drinking yourself into a stupor every night to deal with how much you hate your life.

If you worked that much, that’s all on you. You know how to say the word “no.” You basically said yes, it’s OK to take advantage of me. I’m glad you’ll never do it again. I’m sorry they did this to you

@@JenJen0582 That's an excellent point. Employers have no right to take advantage of their employees. On the other hand, employees have to stand up for themselves. If you let an employer use you like that, you need to make the change!

Same! This is why I prefer to work hourly roles. OT is rarely offered where I work, in part because we are given flexibility and thus can be more productive. When it is offered, it is not mandatory.

If your contracts states a fixed salary for fixed hours, then that's the end of that "discussion". Otherwise they can expect a phone call from my union representative.

And you don't consider that lieu time? I think I need to brush up on my understanding of lieu time

@rdb4996 oh, I thought lieu time meant something like a day off company is obligated to give to you. I'm learning english)

exactly. Standard at my company was that salaried employees could have up to 4 hours away from the office for doctor appts, and personal time (child pick ups, etc) that would be covered by the salary. This was done specifically as salaried employees often put in longer, overtime hours at different times during the work month or year to meet deadlines.

@@TheAlliard 'In Lieu of time' means a replacement somewhat. So if you have to work overtime occasionally to meet a deadline, your boss can't pay you for that overtime, but will give you some early off days or a day off as a replacement for those overtime hours you worked. Most often not an equal replacement of hours, so if you worked 10 overtime hours you may not get 10 hours off but might get 3 hours off early.

@mrgreene3290 thanks for clarification 🙂

Or better yet, please show me where I can find that in the HR regs and the employee manual.

You don't. Unless you want to be "written up" for insubordination 😂

It should be. It's the USA, so I'm not sure it is.

Not if you’re on salary unfortunately

​@@Algo1honestly at this point i don't think anyone knows wtf is going on the america

@@Batmanapplejax What's your salary based on? Hours per week? Then anything over, is overtime. It's in the name. No employer has the right to your availability 24/7, unless you're on-call, in which case your compensation should reflect that

@@ZenganTheFool Most of The Americas is not as fd as America. Sorry, had to. You handed it to me.

plus notice the handle

I think it's from the University of North Texas. If it is, the mug is serendipitous.

If someone tries to get you to work overtime UNPAID, I sure hope as heck you can.

And get fired ? lol 😂😂

Of course. Just make sure you dont burn bridges, have good references at hand and have an emergency fund of at least three months (or what is it called, 'I don't accept this shit' fund?)

Termination in retaliation for exercising your legal rights under labor laws is illegal. Just keep a paper trail. (That includes non-paper evidence like emails, too, of course).