Top 10 Broken Cards That Draw Cards in MTG

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Since the earliest days of Magic the Gathering card advantage has been one of the most important aspects of the game on a competitive level. The more cards one has access to, the more likely they are to be able to advance their boardstate as planned as well as properly interact with their opponent. As such cards that draw cards have always been at the forefront of power and playability. And given just how good card draw effects are, many of the most powerful cards printed have been ones that specifically draw more cards.
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├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10. Glimpse of Nature: (0:22)
9. Sylvan Library: (1:50)
8. Frantic Search: (3:35)
7. Skullclamp: (5:11)
6. Brainstorm: (6:31)
5. Necropotence: (8:21)
4. Treasure Cruise: (9:57)
3. Timetwister: (11:25)
2. Gush: (12:50)
1. Ancestral Recall: (14:42)
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(Just a note, we have people who actually know the game very well making the scripts for this channel. As the owner of the channel (Theduellogs/hirumaredx) is a total newbie to the game.)

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@corey2232
@corey2232 Жыл бұрын
Necro.... Potence.
@OneEdgyDweeb
@OneEdgyDweeb Жыл бұрын
Its not drawing. Its putting the catd into your hand from exile 🤓
@TheSpiritombsableye
@TheSpiritombsableye Жыл бұрын
Neh-crahh-puh-tense.
@ne_mkl
@ne_mkl Жыл бұрын
He definitely does it for the comments.
@corey2232
@corey2232 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSpiritombsableye 🤣 I just wanted him to see the 2 obvious root words. There seems to be a weird mispronounced word each video.
@evilsheepmaster1744
@evilsheepmaster1744 Жыл бұрын
@@corey2232 And in this video, it isn't necropotence. He pronounced it right this time
@TheCubicalGuy
@TheCubicalGuy Жыл бұрын
The fact that skullclamp doesn't even make top 5 really says how strong some of these cards are.
@WishMakers
@WishMakers Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping the end would be "and the number 1 is Ancestral Recall. and that's the list..." Like Ancestral Recall is such an infamous card and its text is so simple + its mana cost is so low that I think you genuinely could've ended it there :P
@evilsheepmaster1744
@evilsheepmaster1744 Жыл бұрын
"And number 1 is Ancestral Recall. For one blue mana, this instant lets you draw three cards. ...Look, you saw the rest of this list. I don't need to explain how broken this is. And that's the list!"
@joebaumgart1146
@joebaumgart1146 Жыл бұрын
They should remake the entire Boon cycle except they all cost 1 Phyrexian mana and have Storm.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
Now that's REAL magic!
Жыл бұрын
Yea, Healing Salve would be so much better!
@joebaumgart1146
@joebaumgart1146 Жыл бұрын
@ Could you imagine Lightning Bolt? A Storm deck would only have to be like 30 cards and the rest could be mountians.
@OtisJCW
@OtisJCW Жыл бұрын
​@I mean 60 copies of healing salve in a deck least goooooooooo, exponential life gain!!!
Жыл бұрын
@@OtisJCW And a copy or two of Test of Endurance...
@bch9124
@bch9124 Жыл бұрын
In my life, and given that I won countless tournaments with Necropotence back in the day, I have never until this day heard it pronounced the way you did.
@damonlouis6536
@damonlouis6536 Жыл бұрын
which is the correct way btw
@Starke_HC
@Starke_HC Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I've pronounced it Necro-potence since I started playing, which was just after Homelands released.
@allenclark4235
@allenclark4235 Жыл бұрын
I hate to say, I got my first copy of that card on a Christmas morning directly out of a pack of Ice Age and I have always said it that way. Yes I realize it is wrong but it's too late to change now lol.
@notabene9804
@notabene9804 Жыл бұрын
Dude, Understanding Gush is a 350-page manifesto on Vintage format. And in its third edition. Love ❤️
@ryznak4814
@ryznak4814 Жыл бұрын
I am kinda curious about why Griselbrand was not mentioned, I think it could have been mentioned with necropotence .
@notabene9804
@notabene9804 Жыл бұрын
Grisel has been internally banned, I think. Having shown up on too many lists in top spots.
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 Жыл бұрын
It also could be argued that, in a vacuum, his mana cost is too much That's why he's always cheated out But it's probably the internal banlist lol
@31codyskater
@31codyskater Жыл бұрын
you basically have to build your deck around getting griselbrand out so it's options are very limited while the draw on this list can be splashed it basically any deck in those colors for crazy power spikes. while yard strats can be strong the reanimator versions suffer from consistency issues.
@nobodyimportant72
@nobodyimportant72 Жыл бұрын
@@notabene9804 Any idea where that "internal ban list" can be found?
@johnsanko4136
@johnsanko4136 Жыл бұрын
Or that the "fixed and balanced" version of Necro, Yawgmoth's Bargain, is still too strong for Legacy because 1 card for 1 life is an insane rate.
@aethertech
@aethertech Жыл бұрын
Brainstorm+shuffle effects (such as often played fetch lands) is often called 'worse recall'
@gubx42
@gubx42 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing about Ancestral Recall is that the effect is "target player draws 3 cards", which is better than "draw 3 cards". A mostly useless advantage, but that's the cherry on top, a tiny thing added to an already ridiculously overpowered card.
@damonlouis6536
@damonlouis6536 Жыл бұрын
can be misdirected though just like walk
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
Skullclamp at #7 seems weird. It's very very very powerful.
@gerritnolte2320
@gerritnolte2320 Жыл бұрын
It is but all of the other cards ahead of it are also super busted. Necropotence is arguable but brainstorm, tc, Recall are all stupid. Really hard to Order imo
@kolbybryant1
@kolbybryant1 Жыл бұрын
Manalogs tends to prioritize cards that are usable in more formats, (legacy, vintage modern, etc), so I can see why it's not higher on the list even though it's so strong on the field
@gerritnolte2320
@gerritnolte2320 Жыл бұрын
@@kolbybryant1 Tbf clamp is restricted in Vintage as Well isnt it?
@NeroLordofChaos
@NeroLordofChaos Жыл бұрын
It's used in a bunch of infinite draw combos. Especially ones with recursion where you just cycle one card back and forth from the field to the graveyard. If I remember right, one 3 card combo with it is infinite draw and infinite mana.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
@@kolbybryant1 Yeah. Skullclamp is banned in Legacy and would be busted if unbanned. I would argue Timetwister wouldn't even see as much play as Echo because the decks that want it for non-LED-mana are just control who sometimes play a 1-of Day's Undoing.
@ZCid47
@ZCid47 Жыл бұрын
A idea for future videos, the ban list of commander, a hotpot of messy decisions and power monsters
@fakeplaystore7991
@fakeplaystore7991 Жыл бұрын
Commander is such an annoying format. I much prefer Gladiator (100 cards Highlander on Magic Arena). Although I still have done memories of playing a Merieke Ri Berit list in Commander back in 2013 or so.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Жыл бұрын
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither Жыл бұрын
Necropotence: Necro-Potence. Necro coming from Necromancy and Potence coming from Potency. But then again, we also have: Omnipotence, Metropolis, Necropolis, Incompetence but then again, we also have: Equipotent/Equipotence and Autopotent/Autopotence
@mightyfp
@mightyfp Жыл бұрын
It's the lure of an engagement trap.
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither Жыл бұрын
@@mightyfp - Yes. I just wanted to share the different perspectives and how there is no definitive answer.
@mightyfp
@mightyfp Жыл бұрын
@@PaulGaither I appreciate you and your attention to detail
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither Жыл бұрын
@@mightyfp - I appreciate you keeping it real.
@scales8768
@scales8768 Жыл бұрын
I started the video, and at n*10, Glimpse of nature .... Yup, feels like every card will be more broken than ever.
@zerodono
@zerodono Жыл бұрын
I won't comment on position, but I played my first ever game of magic, and yes, Skull Clamp is looney tunes (both myself and my opponent had it). It took me a bit getting used to how equipment works being such a Yu-Gi-Oh head lmao.
@God-ch8lq
@God-ch8lq Жыл бұрын
gush can lead to many infinite loops one example: gush + fastbond + mystic sanctuary this creates an infinite loop as long as u have life to pay for fastbond, but ur enemy will scoop before you ping yourself to death, as you drew like 20 cards, and there are many, many ways to win the game with infinite landfall triggers, which you could definitely assemble with so much card advantage
@Sauvenil
@Sauvenil Жыл бұрын
Add a Druid Class to mitigate the Fastbond damage, ha.
@fakeplaystore7991
@fakeplaystore7991 Жыл бұрын
If you're baller, you add Glacial Chasm to negate Fastbond's damage since it's easier to tutor for it.
@God-ch8lq
@God-ch8lq Жыл бұрын
@@fakeplaystore7991 based
@michaellee4276
@michaellee4276 Жыл бұрын
I was a casual player when ice age debuted. We thought Necropotence was a safer variant of Lich. Just a way to play a weird game by mixing up life and cards, but not a way to win. We thought it made your deck slightly worse, but unlike Lich, it wasn't suicide. We figured specific decks could make it work, but never thought it would be a powerhouse.
@simonthesultan2159
@simonthesultan2159 Жыл бұрын
An interesting video idea I think is a list of cards banned specifically in commander but in general not other formats, since we've seen several reverse cases in videos so far.
@Aikisbest
@Aikisbest Жыл бұрын
With how similar this looksr Im sure others have mentioned this already, but I cant unsee that one old Valve splashscreen animation when looking at the Skullclamp card o-o
@kingoberon
@kingoberon Жыл бұрын
I have not watched all your videos but have you done any on the most broken ETBs on creatures?
@imperialphoenix1229
@imperialphoenix1229 Жыл бұрын
My favorite skullclamp interaction is definitely one that I put in a deck I built for my friend. He pulled the foil masterwork locust god a few years ago and never really had anything to do with it, so I made him a deck with skullclamp in it. The locust god's most significant effect is making a 1/1 flyer with haste every time you draw. With locust god on the field skullclamp effectively reads "pay 1, draw 2 cards, make a 1/1" It's arguably better than ancestral recall once it's set up
@jacksonreynolds7433
@jacksonreynolds7433 Жыл бұрын
It's actually 2 1/1s. In Magic drawing multiple cards is actually drawing 1 card multiple times. So an effect that draws you 2 cards triggers The Locust God twice
@imperialphoenix1229
@imperialphoenix1229 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonreynolds7433 yeah but you need to sacrifice 1 and I didn't feel the need to specify sac 1 make 2 cus it just nets 1
@7Alberto7
@7Alberto7 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
Ancestral Recall will always be an example of why card draw needs to have a cost unless it's a detriment like in Uno.
@52flyingbicycles
@52flyingbicycles Жыл бұрын
Like in YuGiOh, how pot of greed is one of the most broken cards in the game despite its only effect being to draw 2 cards. The only drawback is that pot of greed is itself a card. Even the substantially weaker jar of greed (draw 1 card) is still quite powerful despite theoretically just being “replace me with the next card in your deck”. In strategy games, more options = more power
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
@@52flyingbicycles yup
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 Жыл бұрын
@@52flyingbicycles also, replacement cards are "less noise = more power to the other cards"
@Dextrous90
@Dextrous90 Жыл бұрын
Mystic Remora comes to mind, while it isn't an instant or sorcery, is pretty bonkers.
@chazzitz-wh4ly
@chazzitz-wh4ly 11 ай бұрын
Necropotence is amazing and one of my absolute favorites.
@gonyoda
@gonyoda Жыл бұрын
I figured you'd call out the wheel effects as well - being they are similar to twisters but specifically discard can be better for some reanimate strategies...also memory jar broke an entire format needing an emergency ban.
@Mewtwo_Y
@Mewtwo_Y Жыл бұрын
A video on the worst design mistakes in magic would be great!
@lachlanmcgowan5712
@lachlanmcgowan5712 Жыл бұрын
You could easily do a list of the most powerful keyword abilities in Magic (Companion, Dredge, Cascade, Storm come to mind, the hard part would be ordering them) but "worst design mistakes" feels a bit too subjective
@Alecations
@Alecations 11 ай бұрын
TBH that's already this list
@valetboy21
@valetboy21 Жыл бұрын
Memory Jar broke Type 2 so hard, it only lasted 1 tournament and is still restricted in vintage to this day.
@vxicepickxv
@vxicepickxv Жыл бұрын
Good old Grimjar.
@daddygarf9864
@daddygarf9864 Жыл бұрын
Wheel of fortune is usually a better time twister, kinda weird to not at least mention it with time twister I'd even put it above it
@ZynischerDemokrat
@ZynischerDemokrat Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought.
@SuperbFairy
@SuperbFairy Жыл бұрын
fortune discards cards, timetwister restores graveyards and hands to deck, and it's in a better colour
@damonlouis6536
@damonlouis6536 Жыл бұрын
i prefer the grave hate function on twist but yes it belongs on this list for raw power. love to hear groans from the players with sculpted hands as a wheel hits the stack
@andrewpeli9019
@andrewpeli9019 8 ай бұрын
In a vacuum maybe, but timetwister being in blue and being an alpha/power 9 card makes it the more impactful card. Being in the same color as counter spells, time walk, and ancestral recall allowed timetwister to help players dig through their deck to find more time walks and moxes and answers.
@NeufAtora
@NeufAtora Жыл бұрын
Opt is my favourite draw spell, since it's instant speed and you get to scry before drawing. It's a perfect turn 1 move to play at the end of opponent turns
@Rorschachqp
@Rorschachqp Жыл бұрын
Contract From Below, Wheel Of Fortune, Jace The Mind Sculpter, Time Spiral, Library Of Alexandria, Bazaar Of Baghdad, Griselbrand, Land Tax for the category of "broken". Most of the cards on this list are good but not broken.
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither Жыл бұрын
2:20 - "There are some niche interactions, but they usually don't matter" - That is disrespectful to the all-time classic Abundance synergy. It is also nice with Alhammarret's Archive.
@ewhpt4344
@ewhpt4344 Жыл бұрын
1. Contract from Below 2. Ancestral Recall 3. Bazaar of Baghdad 4. Timetwister 5. Library of Alexandria 6. Necropotence 7. Wheel of Fortune 8. Griselbrand 9. Skullclamp 10. Teferi, Time Raveler
@satansamael666
@satansamael666 Жыл бұрын
Can’t forget Gitaxian Probe.
@svankensen
@svankensen Жыл бұрын
I was surprised at the lack of wheel of fortune. I recall the time I got one from a booster. I was very disappointed , being a kid that didn't understand the power of symmetrical effects. Some random guy in the store told me "put it in your burn deck and you'll see". Boy was he right.
@justinwarden8698
@justinwarden8698 Жыл бұрын
Do a video on the most powerful non-legal magic cards, and the most expensive non-legal magic cards (nira hellkite, gama recall, etc)
@chrisgebben2043
@chrisgebben2043 Жыл бұрын
memory jar is missing without any question that draw spell was so powerful it was the worlds first ever emergency ban
@dm9910
@dm9910 Жыл бұрын
Yeah because it existed in a format with where you could run 4x Tinker alongside other absolutely ridiculous cards like Mana Vault, Vamp Tutor and Yawgwill - all of these cards are banned in legacy and restricted in vintage. I don't think Memory Jar would be see play in today's Legacy if it was legal, and it hasn't seen Vintage play for years. It's too expensive to play for real and as a Tinker target it's outclassed by Bolas' Citadel and even Coveted Jewel. If it was reprinted in a standard-legal set, it would see zero play in Modern, Standard or Pioneer because those formats don't have the fast mana or ways to cheat it into play. Commander is the only place where this card actually has a niche. So, while it was certainly a strong part of a ridiculous deck in its time, it wasn't even close to the strongest card in the deck that made it infamous. And it has absolutely not held up to the present day. It's useless in the newer formats which can't support it, and there are better things to be doing in the older formats that can.
@Timelord888
@Timelord888 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a list of the top 10 lands in general.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
1: Fetches 2: Classic dual lands (no downside) 3: Shocklands (enters tapped unless you pay 2 life) 4: Fastlands (enters tapped unless you control two or fewer other lands) 5: Checklands (enters tapped unless you control a ___ or a ___ 6: Horizon Canopy (Pay 1 life, tap, add _ or _. 1, tap, sac to draw a card) 7: Grove of the Burnwillows (tap: add R or G, each opponent gains 1 life) 8: Triomes (enters tapped, cycling 3, has three basic land types) 9: The "bad" fetches (Evolving Wilds etc) 10: Snow Basics
@Sauvenil
@Sauvenil Жыл бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 Snow has more than basics, too. It has Scrying Sheets and Mouth of Ronom and Faceless Haven and Dark Depths and comes-in-tapped duals of all flavors. Scrying Sheets is particularly good even though it's niche.
@dm9910
@dm9910 Жыл бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 Maybe that's justifiable as a list of fair mana-producing land cycles and fetches, but I don't see how you could possibly arrive at a top 10 without a single one of: Strip Mine, Mishra's Workshop, Wasteland, Bazaar, Dark Depths, Academy, Cradle, Tabernacle, Mystic Sanctuary, Valakut, Boseiju Who Endures, Cavern of Souls, Ancient Tomb, cloudposts, Urza's Saga, or Field of the Dead. I think once you factor in those, only fetches and original duals can make any serious claim to remaining in the top 10.
@FranciscoJG
@FranciscoJG Жыл бұрын
@@dm9910 most of those were covered on top 10 utility lands, so that would be a very redundant video.
@GroundThing
@GroundThing Жыл бұрын
Frantic search is probably more powerful for its untap effect than its draw effect, since you go -1 to use it, even if it's not always a strict -1 for graveyard focused decks. Rather, if you have any lands that tap for more than 1 mana, especially lands like Cabal Coffers (though that makes Frantic search slightly harder to play, since CC works best for mono-black decks, though most decks that use CC also run Urborg which makes all your lands swamps anyway, just for the extra mana off the Coffers itself), Nykthos, or Gaea's Cradle, all of which can make you way more than 3 mana on their own, which makes 'free spells' like Frantic Search into a ritual-like effect that also gets you card selection.
@fakeplaystore7991
@fakeplaystore7991 Жыл бұрын
Both Frantic Search and Time Spiral came out in Urza's Saga, alongside Tolarian Academy and its ability to tap for unethical amounts of blue mana.
@C42ST3N
@C42ST3N Жыл бұрын
@@fakeplaystore7991 dont forget snap
@darkhelmet1582
@darkhelmet1582 Жыл бұрын
Is frantic search really more powerful than faithless looting? I know some strategies can utilize the untap more, but overall faithless looting is a better enabler due to being 1 mana
@GroundThing
@GroundThing Жыл бұрын
@@darkhelmet1582 I'd say Faithless Looting is probably stronger most of the time, but Frantic Search is strong enough in certain situations to be banned in legacy, due to the untap, which was probably the tipping point to put it on this list over Faithless Looting.
@xWhackoJacko
@xWhackoJacko Жыл бұрын
i'd put brainstorm higher than the delve cards only because its such a staple of legacy; but other than that? spot on
@ThePhysicalReaction
@ThePhysicalReaction Жыл бұрын
im such an old school player. I remember playing with gush after release and thinking "this is prettty good". While combining it with high tide combos.
@markusg6238
@markusg6238 Жыл бұрын
Well of Knowledge? 2014 Commander Blue Enchantment that allows the player to draw 2 additional cards each turn and allows your opponent(s) to draw 1 additional card each turn
@nzephier
@nzephier Жыл бұрын
The best draw effect in mtg is pot of greed
@Qblazer100
@Qblazer100 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment 😂
@Bacon574
@Bacon574 Жыл бұрын
What does that card do 😮
@TheLuckySpades
@TheLuckySpades Жыл бұрын
Can you remind me what that card does? It's such an unknown and niche card that I have yet to hear the explanation for a millionth time
@darkalman
@darkalman Жыл бұрын
My favorite draw card remains Deep Anal(ysis) 4 mana for 2 cards, but the flashback for 2 mana + 3 life makes it pretty useful overall without making it overly powerful
@kingginger3335
@kingginger3335 Жыл бұрын
How does Sylvan Library work with an Alhammarret's Archive?
@bobbytoler5356
@bobbytoler5356 Жыл бұрын
A video on the power 9 would be pretty cool
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
There is one already
@52flyingbicycles
@52flyingbicycles Жыл бұрын
If we look at the value of something as “how much of X would you give up for Y”, it seems the only thing card draw is even with is mana. I would give up one mana for one card. Everything else you’d give up 2 or more in exchange for a card.
@lazargodragonborn5058
@lazargodragonborn5058 Жыл бұрын
Let me say this the best thing I heard to describe how broken Treasure Cruse was "Mono Red splashed Blue to play Treasure Cruse."
@eskurian8565
@eskurian8565 Жыл бұрын
What makes Brainstorm even better, is that you can stack the top of your library to accurately reflect your mana ramp at the start of the game. For instance, stack the cards so you get a land, then a 3 mana spell in your third turn, then a 4 mana spell in your fourth turn. These can even come from your hand, since you don't need them till that turn and you would be able to keep the cards drawn with Brainstorm.
@damonlouis6536
@damonlouis6536 Жыл бұрын
great in response to discard affects
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 11 ай бұрын
you forgot the ability to hide cards from discard
@michaelnoble4148
@michaelnoble4148 Жыл бұрын
Griselbrand: Am I a joke to you?
@shadowhenge7118
@shadowhenge7118 Жыл бұрын
Honestly i stopped playing after Legends but I drooled over Antiquities when it came out. I loved my Millstone deck. Noone else did, heh.
@fakeplaystore7991
@fakeplaystore7991 Жыл бұрын
Time Spiral is arguably better than Timetwister despite costing double the mana, because it also untaps six lands, allowing you to immediately start unloading the freshly drawn hand. Of course it's from the same set of Tolarian Academy and that would usually net you dozens of mana a pop
@salmonking007
@salmonking007 Жыл бұрын
God I love Time Spiral. I'm surprised it didn't get a mention when Echo of Eons did.
@654jimbob654
@654jimbob654 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Mono-U Delver deck back when Gush was still legal, having never played Pauper before. Immediately 5-0'd a league on MTGO with it despite my lack of format knowledge and despite me not being a pro player or anything. Gush was just that busted.
@onryu
@onryu Жыл бұрын
I love skullclamp in my lathril deck, easy to refill hand
@fabianquintero1972
@fabianquintero1972 Жыл бұрын
Skullclamp and goblins.. And patriarch bidding 💥💥
@mattblom3990
@mattblom3990 Жыл бұрын
Your content is great, I've been a sub for many months but my goodness did this episode have a lot of typos in the onscreen text. I bring it up because I felt in this case there were enough to distract several times from the otherwise engaging content you were speaking about.
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
Hiruma's mispronunciations are his secret hidden technique. If you comment about them, it just boosts his power algorithmically. Give up, you can't beat him
@dorping_Wolf
@dorping_Wolf Жыл бұрын
"sylvan library" and and even more "brainstorm" make me think about "scroll rack". the putting cards from your hand back onto your library and drawing that many (with an extra step of exiling the hand cards before drawing, and than putting them on it, to not draw them themself of course). especially with shuffling. each turn since its an 2 mana artifact, with 1⤵. typical commander card.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough it technically doesn't count as "drawing" for effects that care about that, even though that's what you're physically doing.
@dorping_Wolf
@dorping_Wolf Жыл бұрын
but it does "ignore" typical anti draw cards that are common in commander. but since you don't "draw" more than putting back, you "don't" draw into a card advantage anyway. its more about synergy with shuffling, or top of library synergy.
@ralean3099
@ralean3099 Жыл бұрын
You could also include Wheel of Fortune, Windfall, and Prosperity, but these are all kina worse than Timetwister. Stroke of Genius would also be a good addition - back in the early days of Magic, before internet deck lists - one player at a pre-release actually immediately resigned after reading the card. Memory Jar also, for being the first card to ever get banned before it was legal to play. I think the biggest omission though would be Bazaar of Baghdad.
@johncosco2348
@johncosco2348 Жыл бұрын
You should do top 10 best burn spells
@Epzilon12
@Epzilon12 Жыл бұрын
I was very surprised to not see Bazaar or Wheel of Fortune on this list
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
Bazaar is technically a broken draw card but it's broken because of the discard really. It's just an incredible enabler for Dredge.
@aldotrioksidi
@aldotrioksidi Жыл бұрын
I would make the argument that Time Spiral is more powerful than Timetwister, even though latter can be used for loops and such. It's absolutely bonkers, especially since it can easily become mana positive with Fork and such.
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo Жыл бұрын
There are just too many broken draw spells to do a top 10. You mentioned contract (easily the best draw spell, though it's as an ante card, it's effectively unplayable). There's also griselbrand, library of alexandria, bazaar of baghdad, faithless looting, street wraith, etc. Ordering them is possible, but not practical, IMO.
@fakeplaystore7991
@fakeplaystore7991 Жыл бұрын
Bazaar and Library could never appear in a top 10 Draw Spells lists though.
@EndiXIV
@EndiXIV Жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting how many of these are commons
@joviprevot1970
@joviprevot1970 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't pay attention to this video because in my mind, i kept repeating "Brainstorm-Green Needle" over and over.
@FreddyChoppins
@FreddyChoppins Жыл бұрын
14:39 "One other card that blows out of the water" Don't think I don't see what you did there 😏
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing about Skull Clamp is that I personally stopped using it in casual play with my friends because it was too powerful. I immediately knew that the whole purpose was to sac 1/1 tokens to draw cards. How WotC didn't realize this is beyond me.
@Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God
@Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God Жыл бұрын
I have tried Sylvan Library in commander and without scry effects I was disappointed. Elemental Bond, Beast Whisperer, Guardian Project, Garruk Primal Hunter, Soul's Majesty, Return of the Wildspeaker and all the enchantress (these only in enchantment deck) gave me great results
@jareddoucette7193
@jareddoucette7193 Жыл бұрын
how come you dont use the original iconic arts for any of these cards?
@DerekScottBland
@DerekScottBland Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they haven't reworded Sylvan Library even more. The player should be told to keep all 3 cards drawn separate from the rest of their hand until they make all decisions relevant to what cards will be kept.
@dm9910
@dm9910 Жыл бұрын
You effectively do have to do that if you're playing in a non-casual environment. It gets weirder though if you draw cards for some other reason *before* Sylvan's trigger resolves. Because according to the wording on the card, you can put back any 2 cards you drew this turn. You basically have to call a judge over to get them to watch you play the turn so that they can confirm you didn't cheat.
@DerekScottBland
@DerekScottBland Жыл бұрын
@@dm9910 - yeah, but usually the game is a stickler for keeping cards separate if you have to make a decision like that. I'm blanking on the card, but I know there's one, lol. And yeah, catrips that tell you to draw a card at the beginning of the next turn can really screw things up as well, I didn't think about that.
@brycebthehottie3400
@brycebthehottie3400 Жыл бұрын
My question is if yawgmoths bargain was created to be a less broken necropotence then why is it on the commander ban list and necropotence not
@OvrlordEtna
@OvrlordEtna Жыл бұрын
i love using brainstorm with chasm stalker
@michaelgood3666
@michaelgood3666 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how sylan library would interact with abundance
@IceboxOG
@IceboxOG Жыл бұрын
I really love these videos i think i clicked that notif faster than ever before
@ZacharyOtt
@ZacharyOtt Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that cards like Dig Through Time or Sensei’s Divining Top didn’t make it somewhere on the list.
@vxicepickxv
@vxicepickxv Жыл бұрын
Top wasn't really used for drawing in legacy. It was for counterbalance.
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
@Prince_Eva_Huepow Жыл бұрын
#1 i cannot Recall what it does. Do you mind explaining it to me each time you show it?
@sunthi9619
@sunthi9619 Жыл бұрын
yawgmoth's bargain seems pretty cracked too though. and contract from below but that one is goofy and illegal
@komasdfg
@komasdfg Жыл бұрын
quite surprise griselbrand isnt on the list since there are alot of ways to cheat it into play cheaply.
@brianlinden3042
@brianlinden3042 Жыл бұрын
I understand that this isn't a Commander-specific list, but even if it's no good in other formats, Rhystic Study is SO thoroughly broken in Commander that it deserves a place on this list, at least somewhere in the 8-10 range, if not higher.
@Isamaru7
@Isamaru7 Жыл бұрын
Commander is just stupid and in no way an indicator for Card value
@madsante
@madsante Жыл бұрын
Id argue Yawg Will should be on this list. Draw your graveyard for 3 mana is incredibly broken in the right deck.
@hobbes2234
@hobbes2234 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Contract from Below isn't on the list.
@GigaBoost
@GigaBoost Жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm, as encouraged to do by the intentional mispronunciation of necropotence, good one this time 😂
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 Жыл бұрын
14:25 "Gushing About Gush: a Love Story" by Dr R. Fblthp, PhD
@SplotchiesBane
@SplotchiesBane Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised rhystic study isn't on this list? Ik it can be countered, but if it's gotten out early, it's such a jump forward in card advantage
@luckyduck4084
@luckyduck4084 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it has had as big an effect on 60 card as it had in edh, games either don’t go long enough and/or it doesn’t do enough in legacy/vintage to justify taking turn 3 off without affecting the board significantly.
@SplotchiesBane
@SplotchiesBane Жыл бұрын
@@luckyduck4084 That's a fair assumption, I hadn't thought about that. It's been so long since I've played a regular 60 game 😂
@moparman2nd
@moparman2nd 24 күн бұрын
Kinda surprised demonic tutor wasn't listed
@Max-nt5zs
@Max-nt5zs 8 ай бұрын
I can’t understand how nobody saw the problem with skull clamp.
@user-ml4zc3pm5c
@user-ml4zc3pm5c Жыл бұрын
this is gonna sound insane but in cEDH ancestral recall wouldn't be NEARLY as strong as it is in every other format. We need huge draw spells like ad naus and peer into the abyss or tutors to set up our wins because their are way more cards in our decks and we are in a singleton format. It would still be an auto include in every blue deck without exception I don't actually think it would break the meta of cEDH.
@turbowrench8540
@turbowrench8540 3 ай бұрын
Just remember, Necropotence is not actually drawing so you can't use it with Sheoldred the apocalypse and opponents can't use it against you as drawing like fate unraveler.
@melvinshine9841
@melvinshine9841 Жыл бұрын
Does MTG have something akin to "floating" effects? I could absolutely see something like Skullclamp being used to pop monsters in Yugioh with graveyard or floating effects so you potentially go +2 or better. I'd argue that Ancestral Recall might be more broken than any generic draw spell in Yugioh. Graceful Charity could be a +5 or more in the right deck, but a completely generic +2 would be nuts.
@nolo2484
@nolo2484 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there definitely are cards that replace themselves as well. Honestly though skull clamp is good enough with any cheap creature (or tokens that are very easy to make)
@endlessrain6992
@endlessrain6992 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but it also has WAY more ways to make tokens than Yugioh does. So typically it's better to just, like, make three 1/1s off one card and feed them to the Skullclamp for a cool +5 or so. Most 1-toughness creatures won't have powerful enough death triggers to be worth the mana it takes to play them.
@theemathas
@theemathas Жыл бұрын
Mtg has a ton of creatures that have a “when this creature dies” effects. Even more conveniently, there are some 1 mana 1/1 creatures that make a 1/1 token when they die :)
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but they're nowhere near as frequent. The most well-known floating effects are Academy Rector and other similar cards, the Kamigawa dragons, and Protean Hulk.
@discounthero9972
@discounthero9972 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Gitaxian Probe isn't on this list.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
That's not a draw spell. It's a cantrip. It only ever replaces itself.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
Granted the "draw a card" IS the reason it's banned, but still it probably doesn't qualify since it's card advantage neutral
@Shadows_rising
@Shadows_rising 6 күн бұрын
What is your favorite format
@jaykeyser4340
@jaykeyser4340 8 ай бұрын
No mention of Memory Jar?
@Goten40373
@Goten40373 Жыл бұрын
the reasoning on time twister is more of a noob perspective.. that card can be abused in such better ways tbh tbh. in vintage u can empty ur hand turn 1 end with a twister. your opponent b4 they even play essentially have to mulligan not going down a card but their new hand might be unplayable while you start with a boad full of cards and yeah. can also combo/re occur. power 9 cards are crazy
@fd7003
@fd7003 Жыл бұрын
I would argue, that frantic search and skullclamp which saw little play due to being banned at the start of the format should be higher in the list... Furthermore you missed the interaction of Gush with stripmine/wasteland to save your land from being destroyed
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 Жыл бұрын
you said it: it's banned. That makes it less valuable on his lists
@JimmysALilGirl
@JimmysALilGirl Жыл бұрын
8:21 - Necro-Potence not Nercrop-Otence. It's the combination of two words and those two words are not "Necrop" and "Otence", lol. Necropotence essentially means "power of the dead" or "death power".
@LordQuintix
@LordQuintix Жыл бұрын
Gush is the MTG version of Pot of Greed.
@TRex-fu7bt
@TRex-fu7bt Жыл бұрын
Why are you talking about Squadron Hawk? It was first printed in M11.
@lithatog
@lithatog Жыл бұрын
If banned cards are accepted in this top ten list, I am amazed that you missed Contract from below
@ryan91297
@ryan91297 Жыл бұрын
Gitaxian Probe should be in the top 3, as should Brainstorm
@joeldykman7591
@joeldykman7591 Жыл бұрын
A little mistake in regards to glimpse of nature's legality. It has never been for any point in time legal in modern, it was on the ban list when the format was created and will likely stay there until the format is dead.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 Жыл бұрын
That's probably for the best, as nobody likes playing against Cheerios Storm.
@MainlyHuman
@MainlyHuman Жыл бұрын
Commander players: "Where's Rhystic Study?"
@shyumby
@shyumby Жыл бұрын
library + dredge
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