TOP 5 BEST VR HEADSETS in 2023 for SIMMERS! My PERSONAL FAV REVEALED! MSFS, DCS, X PLANE 12

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VR Flight Sim Guy

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@nickcutting4556
@nickcutting4556 11 ай бұрын
I have had my Crystal now a couple of weeks now Steve, super impressed, your reviews have been a great help, no problems what so ever, I feel very spoiled as this is my first VR headset but going from a 24inch 1080 screen to this in DCS it really is another world, ive been having a blast :)
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Wow your first headset and you've gone straight to the top! Congrats. Im' so glad my channel has helped informed your first VR headset purchase. Take care
@ArtFlyer01
@ArtFlyer01 11 ай бұрын
Hi Steve, thanks for this much appreciated. I've loved my Reverb G1& G2 in XP11 & 12. HP supplied the G2 after the G1 failed & now the G2 has 'lens blackout' - so it's time for a new headset. Your comments are helpful - I value reliability. Cheers BB.
@swango1
@swango1 11 ай бұрын
I love the Reverb G2. Been thinking about upgrading to the Pimax Crystal, but from what I've seen I'll wait for them to iron out their QC and software issues.
@xjrthirteen
@xjrthirteen 11 ай бұрын
I reckon you're in for a long wait. Look on the bright side though, something better will be available by that time.
@nicoladelbiaggio4667
@nicoladelbiaggio4667 11 ай бұрын
So happy to be an owner of an aero. It is really fantastic to fly with.
@4secsharkmr352
@4secsharkmr352 11 ай бұрын
Good one as always. Thank you very much. Have a great weekend and take care.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Cheers mate. Take care!
@davidmuir6849
@davidmuir6849 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve ,I’ll be placing an order for the Aero . I’ve had a g1 up till now and looking forward to the change . Regards Dave from Scotland
@farmertrueVR
@farmertrueVR 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic list! Thanks for sharing this video. I have used my Aero near daily since buying it $400 off on Black Friday for 4-6 hours at a time, and I have had an absolutely near flawless experience with the HMD. Even with how much I like my Aero, and that it is nearly perfect for my wants and needs, I am very interested in the Crystal and Beyond. Being the enthusiast that I am for all things VR, I want to experience games with all the headsets have to offer. I keep asking folks to convince me to buy the Crystal but so far, every one I know who has one has told me they have gone back to using the Aero or Quest Pro. Even hearing that I still want to use the Crystal or Beyond. But this video is what I needed to hear. I am 100% satisfied with the Aero and don't need to spend that money for a HMD that I know will not be as reliable, and nearly flawless as the Aero has been for my needs/wants. Just to mention I am a variety VR user. I don't only play sims, in fact I load up sims less than any other genre. I have nearly 200 VR games that I've purchased and the Aero has been fantastic with all except a couple issues with OpenXR games. Vail VR for instance is not playable for the Aero as it has a screen shake but the developers know about this. That is my only concern with going forward with the Aero and why I may end up buying the Beyond. OpenXR.... Enough of my rambling, thanks for the video and you all enjoy your weekend!
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for your comments, it's always really interesting to hear people's opinions on this. You can be rest assured, you have the best headset currently available, even in 2023. Take care and thankyou for watching.
@VirtualAirTour
@VirtualAirTour 11 ай бұрын
Just to add one more voice - I ignored Steve's advice and purchased the Pimax Crystal even though I'm thrilled with the Varjo Aero . . . I am now returing the Pimax Crystal.
@farmertrueVR
@farmertrueVR 11 ай бұрын
have heard this from quite a few folks as well@@VirtualAirTour I've heard people also say if they had never used the Aero, then the Crystal wouldn't seem so riddled with issues and would be happy with their purchase..
@PocketProjects
@PocketProjects 11 ай бұрын
Some serious food for thought and a nice break down of the pros and cons for all of them. At the end of the day we should really go for the best we can afford - preferably out of the that top 5. 👌
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree and thankyou for your kind comments. This video could have easily been 5 hours long 😅
@nzbankboyinvr4713
@nzbankboyinvr4713 11 ай бұрын
I was literally thinking in the last 24 hours I wonder where you stand on this, thanks for reading my mind and for helping the community with your thoughts once again ❤
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Great minds think alike my friend :)
@montrose699
@montrose699 11 ай бұрын
I agree that the build quality of the Crystal isn't like the G2 or Aero but that being said my 5k plus was the same and is now 5 years old and no issues. I love my Crystal
@rodolphof.godoyjr.1735
@rodolphof.godoyjr.1735 9 ай бұрын
Very intesting video for someone like me that will by soon a VR Headset and is unsure about which one and how much is a reasonable price to pay, Question; Why Vive is not on the list? Woult it be nr. 6, 7, 8?....
@mikewright2858
@mikewright2858 11 ай бұрын
I snagged a new Reverb G2 V2 for
@julianhall2008
@julianhall2008 11 ай бұрын
I'm still very happy with my Aero, hopefully Varjo will develope something even better in the future.
@TheOli4D
@TheOli4D 11 ай бұрын
Steven, do you experience the wobbling/stutters with the Reverb G2 when using Windows 11 in MSFS? Or are you on Windows 10? I was wondering if the stutter/shaking/wobbling that the G2 on Windows 11 had, is still present... and if, what you do against it... Thanks a lot
@dash8dave476
@dash8dave476 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your vid .Can i ask what base stations do you use .The ones that are on the aero web site are all sold out .Would the steam base stations be compatible thanks.
@MixedRealitySimRacing
@MixedRealitySimRacing 11 ай бұрын
What I dislike about the Aero are the barrel distortion and chromatic aberration. Plus no integrated sound solution are just too much compromises for the big price.
@stefanbradtke9282
@stefanbradtke9282 6 ай бұрын
I still have the Oculus Rift S. The price for the Varjo Aero is okay. However what controllers are recommended? Can I use the Rift S Controller? What is the pint selling a Vr headset without controllers? Thanks for the review anyway!
@fuxiang1024
@fuxiang1024 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the very informative list. And the scenery is beautiful! I'd very much like to know what location of Scotland it is.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
You are welcome! This is near Ben Nevis, in the Highlands of Scotland. I'd recommend taking off from Oban and heading East through the mountains, following the lochs.
@g7rta40
@g7rta40 11 ай бұрын
Another good video Steve 👍 I’m not sure I agree about the Reverb G2 being the best value headset tho. I’ve enjoyed my G2 for the last 2-3 years, but it started failing & it pretty much dead now. Possibly down to the cable but I won’t be spending £115 for a new cable. Many others have had similar problems and a replacement cable hasn’t always fixed it. I’ve got a Pimax Crystal on order.. but while I’m waiting I also ordered the Pico 4 - I personally think the Pico 4 is the best value now (might change when I get the Crystal 😀) I’m getting a superb picture with the Pico & good performance too. It’s much cheaper than the G2 (maybe not quite as comfortable) and of course you can use it anywhere, unlike the G2 Can’t wait to try the Crystal now 😀 Cheers Steve
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and for your thoughts, I personally feel the Pico 4 is not as good value, simply because you need a much more powerful system to run it anywhere near the level of the Reverb G2 due to the lack of a DP port. Congrats on the Crystal purchase, you will love it I'm sure. Take care
@pchow6829
@pchow6829 11 ай бұрын
My HP Reverb G2 was the easiest to setup and works on boot-up every single time for years. The 8kx was hit or miss for me due to the firmware and buggy client software. I think they had too many iterations of hardware for the 8kx for it to be compatible with each firmware update so its hit or miss with every update. I'd tried the Varjo Aero for about a week and returned it due to an eye calibration issue and the screen blanking out. I heard it was a known issue with a batch of their cables. They should've included an integrated audio solution with it too. My new Crystal is pretty much plug and play using Pimax XR with my flight sims and performs very well. I don't like the location of the buttons on the headset, but can live with that. Battery is not really an issue since I don't spend more than a few hours at a time on it. Best comfort still goes to my first headset the Reverb.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and glad you are enjoying your Crystal.
@moguy1
@moguy1 11 ай бұрын
Just a heads up, Varjo is running a 25% discount to the end of August on the Aero. Just ordered mine at $1555 out the door. If you already have the basestations, steam controllers, and gaming headphones w/mic I'd say its priced farely competitively against the Crystal when you consider the pros and cons of the two. For those who prioritize build quality, software, and customer support over bleeding edge specs now is probably a decent time to snag one. I suspect black friday will have a decent deal too though so dont go drop $1.5K on an impulse cause some rando on the web gave you a bit of info haha! Just wanted to throw it out there for those who are trying to decide between the two and $1990 feels like the deal breaker on the Aero
@protes08
@protes08 8 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you very much for your videos. I don't speak English very well, but I would like to ask you a question, of the five headsets that you have analyzed, which one do you think is the best to see the cockpit and the instruments more clearly, the one that is closest to the 2D view of the screen?, right now I have a Reverb G2 and I would like to know if it is worth the change. Thank you very much and greetings. Traducido por Google
@melvyns1975
@melvyns1975 11 ай бұрын
Reverb g2 is a great all rounder,served me well for a long time 100's of hours over various games,still using it to this day but the Varjo Aero for simming is unbelievable,its just a quality product 👍
@michaeltaylor1197
@michaeltaylor1197 10 ай бұрын
I have a Reverb G2 (3rd one) which has served me well but has failed again, I am seriously considering the Varjo Aero now even though it's a lot of money. Is it far better than the G2?
@melvyns1975
@melvyns1975 10 ай бұрын
@michaeltaylor1197 I'd say if ur going to buy a new headset anyway I'd deffo go for the Aero,if ur gonna use it mainly for simming. A couple of downsides is there's no built in audio (I play sound through pc speakers anyway) and there's no motion controllers with it as standard (I use the Valve Index controllers) which I'm not keen on. Visually tho it is stunning
@michaeltaylor1197
@michaeltaylor1197 10 ай бұрын
@@melvyns1975 thanks for quick response, I think I prefer the Aero, the VR flight sim guy likes it.
@AdzzVR
@AdzzVR 4 ай бұрын
G2 or Odyssey+ ? mostly need it for simracing and eventually flight sims too.
@sascenturion
@sascenturion 11 ай бұрын
Interesting to hear your headset " rankings" 😊 Still waiting for my pimax to arrive ...upgraded to a 4090 too 😁 ,although sim keeps crashing with dx12 and frame gen on 😭🤔 Thanks for video and Ben Nevis 😂
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Hey buddy, no doubt you'll absolutely love it. Frame generation does not work on VR, also, use DX11 👍
@sascenturion
@sascenturion 11 ай бұрын
​@@VRFlightSimGuy yeah so I discovered Iol. But the frame gen crashes the SIM in pancake mode , can't get SIM to work in dx12. Severe frame drop ☹️ Cheers for the reply though 👍
@sascenturion
@sascenturion 11 ай бұрын
​@@VRFlightSimGuy​​@SimHangerFS Hi Steve I managed to find out my problem with frame generation/ fps drop / game crashes .... The sim was rendering the in sim vfr map " behind the scenes" ..no visual indication of this though ... As soon as i clicked the off clic spot from the in sim drop down menu , the vfr map closed and i have a stable sim with mostly ultra settings and 75 / 80+ fps ... An old bug i believe .. Sim looks awesome now in pancake mode 😊
@_zeranom
@_zeranom 11 ай бұрын
I am totally with you. The Varjo Aero is still the number one. Best European quality, best support, amazing product. I simple love it. Thx, because of you (!) -lets be honest- and the community, the Varjo company maked the step in the consumer market. 😉👍
@XAMBUSH1X
@XAMBUSH1X 11 ай бұрын
am new to vr and msfs and use a Quest2 for dayflying and a Quest for nightflying ..i bought the Quest2 thinking it would be alround better but apart from its more clearer on the instrument panels the Quest2 has this unbearable grey shade fog type thing in nightflight cockpit views. you cant even see the stars or make out any black shading or land outside it really takes the immersion away.. think il try a quest pro next
@illz11226
@illz11226 11 ай бұрын
I purchased a new meta quest pro for 350$USD is that a good deal? How much better is Varjo than the pro?
@JaimeCCS
@JaimeCCS 11 ай бұрын
I owned the Reverb G2 and I'm happy, do you recommend the upgrade to the Pimax or Varjo?
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
That's a big question, best check my comparison videos 👍
@Phaethon569
@Phaethon569 9 ай бұрын
My Reverb G1 headstrap just broke. HP does not provide a replacement headstrap. They also seem to be fully out of G2 s so I am thinking towards a second hand G2. I tested the Quest 3, not super impressed. Compared to the DP level quality the USB C cable solution creates artefacts. Crystal is far out of my budget. Any thoughts?
@rustyfarris8945
@rustyfarris8945 10 ай бұрын
Steve now with the Varjo Aero price drop would you now put it above the G2 as your value pick? Yes the Varjo Aero is still considerably more than the G2 but for what you are now getting with the Aero at half price does your opinion change?
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын
That's a tricky one, as for many people, the Aero is still very expensive. But there's no denying, this new price point is fantastic value for what is essentially, still the best VR headset on the market for our genre.
@towlist
@towlist 11 ай бұрын
Based on this review i bought the Reverb G2. The limited FOV makes it a very poor headset compared to the Valve Index imo. I'm reselling the G2 and keeping my Valve Index
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Did you not enjoy the huge boost in clarity over the Index? You'd have been better off watching my full Reverb G2 video before deciding whether to purchase, as I talk about the FOV.
@bornag8549
@bornag8549 11 ай бұрын
I have G2 2 years. Very good, best value for money. Before 2 weeks I got Cristal. High visual jump. Instalation and configuration are simple. No problem. Production quality OK. Crystal has better tehnology of screen (QLED is better than LED), much better audio, bigger vertical FOV, when you include controlers, base statios Aero is 40% expensive. I'm shure it is very good, but no so better (if is) to be 40% expensive. Some say confidence cost.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
That 40% is probably going towards better build quality, but still, the Crystal is amazing value for the image quality. Congrats on your new headset :)
@richardnoall3758
@richardnoall3758 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, I really thought you would go for the Crystal for number 1. I like the fact you didn't which gives kudos to the honesty of your channel. I don't own either, but the biggest issue for the Crystal for me is the risk of what happens if I have issues and need to return it? God knows how long that process would take (having to return to the U.S. being in the U.K). Varjo seem to be a bit more reliable in that respect from what I have heard.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Cheers Richard, it's a real shame, the Crystal really had huge potential and I still love it, but now that I've been using it for a long time and hearing all of the problems people are having, plus the whole battery thing.. well, Varjo nails it where it matters most. Take care and thankyou for watching.
@VirtualAirTour
@VirtualAirTour 11 ай бұрын
Varjo vs Pimax return process... I returned the Varjo Aero 6 (yes six) times before getting one that didn't have either dead pixels or mura issues. While that was incredibly frustrating - Varjo did not complain one bit. They cross-shipped every single one (so I was never without a headset) and I never had to pay a dime for shipping. Now that I'm embarking upon my Pimax Crystal RMA, they're already warning me I have to pay shipping, restocking fee, and the cost of any "unusable items" will be deducted from my refund. I think this speaks volumes about the two companies.
@richardnoall3758
@richardnoall3758 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, this really has made my mind up which way to go.@@VirtualAirTour
@tato3421
@tato3421 11 ай бұрын
Surprised Big Screen made your top 5 list without Eye tracking, OpenXR, and the need to purchase separately the base stations and controllers. I have the Pico 4 now and may just wait to see the new Valve Deckard.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
When you wear a headset that fits you like a glove, with hardly any weight and a micro OLED display to boot, you'd understand why it's there ;) Thanks for watching!
@TheAirbus100
@TheAirbus100 11 ай бұрын
The Pico 4 has to be the absolute best VR Headset for its price. Im with you on this one. Gonna use the PICO4 until something really gamechanging arrives.
@demetriusvanspranghe
@demetriusvanspranghe 11 ай бұрын
Sticking with the HP Reverb G2 for now. You did not mention anything about comfort, active cooling, etc.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
This is a quick round up video, I mention that stuff many times in other videos. Thanks for watching!
@romainmarit4280
@romainmarit4280 11 ай бұрын
Do you think the quest 3 will be better than reverb g2 .. i think so :)
@jlepage36
@jlepage36 10 ай бұрын
Probably depends on what you are looking for. Edge to edge clarity, yes. Wireless and MR, yes. Resolution, yes (for native apps). But if you are looking for PCVR, NO WAY. Quest 3 will have compression issues just like Quest 2. For high end PCVR what you really want is full displayport, which G2 has but Quest 3 does not.
@carloscruz7317
@carloscruz7317 11 ай бұрын
I just picked up a g2 on sale in a local small computer shop. $299.99 I was in the market for one and it wasn’t what I wanted I wanted the best but that was a deal I could not pass.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Deal of the century!
@carloscruz7317
@carloscruz7317 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy i was eager to open because I was convinced it had to be used. But nope now the set up process hope it does well. I have a 5800x3d and a 3090ti
@K11...
@K11... 11 ай бұрын
Quite a few people are raving about the quest pro being better than even the aero, not for having the highest resolution, but on pretty much every other point. Have you had a chanse to try it out? Only reason I am skeptical is compression, but if the pico 4 is good, then the quest pro should be amazing.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I didn't like it. Compression and SDE
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 11 ай бұрын
General consensus is that the Quest Pro isn't even close to the Aero. As for comparing it to the Pico 4... most common opinion I've seen across reviewers is that it's about 50/50. Quest Pro has a better contrast and better black levels than the Pico 4, but less colour accuracy. Quest Pro has more responsive controls and better finger tracking as well. And of course has a much better standalone library (which does not really matter for PC VR). However, Pico 4 is generally considered to be the more comfortable of the 2 (though comfort is also not optimal for many and so it's still kinda 50/50). Image quality for PCVR is pretty much the same. Basically, in a direct comparison... Quest Pro may have a slight edge above the Pico 4. But when you consider the fact that the Quest Pro is A LOT more expensive, the Pico 4 here is the clear winner for being able to provide something that's almost as good for far less money. Heck, if the company that made the Pico 4 actually includes a display port they'd have the PCVR market in the bag since nothing for that price would even be able to compare in terms of image quality and comfort. Not that I would use it because I value a wireless experience more, but the PCVR market has been rather stale for a few years. Heck, they'd especially have a major advantage if they managed to up the contrast or included an OLED screen. Well, guess we'll have to see if Quest 3 offers a significant improvement for PCVR. It won't have a displayport, but it does use a better chip that can use WiFi 6E and should also be able to handle more bandwith and better video encoding. So it might not actually need a displayport since it can potentially produce image quality very close to it. I think the Pico 4 already does a damn good job at it when combined with pancake lenses.
@somethingclever1234
@somethingclever1234 8 ай бұрын
Pimax Crystal has been a mess for me in DCS, very bulky and buggy. I finally removed it completely and switched back to the Reverb G2, $2000 (with prescription lenses) down the drain
@hughmac7423
@hughmac7423 11 ай бұрын
I think this all depends on your IPD and headsize. I'm at the large end, with an IPD of 75mm. Reverb G2, I have one, got it on discount, but I hate it, I've given it to one of my adult daughters to use. The face plate is very narrow and uncomfortable. Its max IPD is too small. It is made for people with small heads. Bigscreen Beyond may be good when it comes out, but it only goes to 72mm IPD and I need 75mm, so even though I would consider getting one, I won't be. I have the Pimax 8KX, it is okay, resolution is not quite as good as the G2 or the Vive Pro 2, but almost. I think with Pimax, you have to wait a good year for them to sort out the bugs. I would wait before considering the Crystal, they haven't released all of the features yet, at a minimum we need the light house tracking they have said is coming. Varjo Aero indicates it supports an IPD range 57 to 73mm, unfortunately I'm 75mm, so I would need to go for the VR-2 Pro or the XR-1 Developer headset, which don't seem to be available. I'm a bit dissappointed with the VR headset manufacturers, I started with a Vive and then a Vive Pro, both of these went to 75mm IPD, and it seems all new headsets don't cater for people with large IPD's. I am impressed with the Playstation VR2, it caters for IPD range of 57mm to 75mm, and the features eye tracking and foveated rendering, and is fantastic value for money. If this was a PC VR headset, everyone would be raving about it.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for sharing your thoughts, you raise some very valid points here.
@elchaposexcitingadventures1674
@elchaposexcitingadventures1674 11 ай бұрын
I am not in the market for a headset yet. Will this technology plateau at on point? Or is it considered to improve every year. That is the VR headsets. The computers and software well we know that pathway.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
VR is still in its infancy, so technology will continue to grow at a fast pace for a while yet
@elchaposexcitingadventures1674
@elchaposexcitingadventures1674 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuythanks
@craigson153
@craigson153 11 ай бұрын
have you done full motion sim with vr?
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Check my videos and make sure to sub 👍
@felipeturbayr
@felipeturbayr 11 ай бұрын
I wonder what is the lifetime of the Limax Crystal with stardard use? 🧐 will it survive 10 years?
@xjrthirteen
@xjrthirteen 11 ай бұрын
Not with my experience with the Crystal. Awful build quality that bends and creaks and wonky, wobbly buttons which remind me of a cheap Chinese knock-off. Lucky if it lasts 12 months of regular use.
@VirtualAirTour
@VirtualAirTour 11 ай бұрын
IMO the Pimax Crystal is not a significant upgrade over the Varjo Aero. Here's why (this is a repost of my comment on Get Your Game On's first impressions video but thought it would be useful for people struggling to make a purchasing decision)... - I returned the Varjo Aero 6 (yes six) times before getting one that didn't have either dead pixels or mura issues. While that was incredibly frustrating - Varjo did not complain one bit. They cross-shipped every single one (so I was never without a headset) and I never had to pay a dime for shipping. Now that I'm embarking upon my Pimax Crystal RMA, they're already warning me I have to pay shipping, restocking fee, and the cost of any "unusable items" will be deducted from my refund. I think this speaks volumes about the two companies. - The Pimax Crystal is the most uncomfortable headset I have ever worn - by far. Granted I have never tried any of Pimax' previous headsets but it was literally painful after about 30 minutes. - I think reviewers who are reporting the Crystal's sharpness as being superior to the Aero's need to try the Aero with the red/blue shift beta fix Varjo released in July. My Aero is absolutely sharper than what I was getting with the Pimax Crystal - though admittedly I'm using prescription inserts with the Aero while I was using glasses with the Crystal. - It's very rare that I find myself disappointed with the Aero's field of view (usually only when trying to view the captian's radio panels on the 737). For me the additional vertical FOV provided by the Crystal was blurry with chromatic aberration so I ended up tilting my head up/down for a clearer view anyway. - I'm never disappointed with the Aero's colors - never. They just seem natural/realistic/life-like rather than being over-saturated. - In my experience the Pimax Crystal's "Extreme" setting for local dimming resulted in bright areas being dimmed along with the dark areas which makes it only useful for evening and night time scenes. I can already achieve that by lowering the backlight brightness on the Aero. Don't get me wrong - the Crystal's local dimming does indeed deliver much better black levels. But with my unit and the current software it did sacrifice brightness of light areas at the same time - perhaps this will be improved with future updates. - I prefer Varjo Base to the Pimax' software. The killer feature - being able to easily use the Windows desktop with the press of a headset button. I found myself missing that feature immediately when playing MSFS on the Crystal.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
All very valid and interesting points made here, thankyou for sharing
@speedvr829
@speedvr829 11 ай бұрын
There you go. Pimax charging to send back an item that has issues. Aero for me. 2 months to go and I'll have the funds. Thanks for review. Bboy.
@moguy1
@moguy1 11 ай бұрын
​@speedvr829 not sure where you're at on your savings but Varjo is running a 25% discount till end of August. Was $1555 out the door for me. Hope you can snag the savings!
@gastonice5203
@gastonice5203 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, i have a silly question, i have presbyopia due to my age, for reading i need 1.00 , wierd thing is with VR i no need any glasses, is that normal? thanks
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын
I've no idea sorry!
@thomashall7035
@thomashall7035 10 ай бұрын
I’m still not persuaded anything tops the Valve Index to be honest. Crank up the SS and enjoy. Can’t wait for the next headset from Valve
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 10 ай бұрын
Things have moved on quite a lot since the Index. But glad you are still enjoying it
@LarsAgerbk
@LarsAgerbk 11 ай бұрын
Pico 4 is cheaper than the Reverb G2 right? But Reverb is still better value? even though you rank the Pico higher?
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Due to the lack of a DP, you need a higher spec PC, so no, it's not better value.
@virtuallyreal
@virtuallyreal 11 ай бұрын
​@@VRFlightSimGuyyou still missing neo 3 link ? It's 230 quid on Amazon UK right now...... Display port!
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
@@virtuallyreal These are my personal Top 5 and unfortunately, I've yet to try the Pico 3 link.
@6la6ng6e
@6la6ng6e 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, a 3080ti isn't good enough to run the Pico 4 (used with a 5800X3D + 64GB Ram here). You need a faster GPU to run it decently because you need to get FPS up to the chosen refresh rate of the headset simply because spacewarp doesn't work near as good on the Pico then it does on a Rift-S for example.
@chumbrega2
@chumbrega2 9 ай бұрын
My pico 4 is so blurry tho O hate it
@reptilexcq2
@reptilexcq2 11 ай бұрын
Crystal weight (w/ battery): Imagine 2 water bottles on your head lol. They somehow manage to make it heavier than 8KX lol.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
It's feels fine, but then I am used to bike helmets.
@VirtualAirTour
@VirtualAirTour 11 ай бұрын
@VRFlightSimGuy have you ever attempted to return a product to Pimax? I have sent them several emails requesting an RMA and information on how to return the Crystal. Last contact was last week and now the company has gone radio silent. I hope they're not planning on playing mum until my 14 day return window has lapsed.
@VirtualAirTour
@VirtualAirTour 11 ай бұрын
Still waiting to hear from Pimax on the procedure to return my Crystal received on August 8th, 2023. I'll keep you all posted. This is starting to sound like a really shady business. Anyone want to buy a barely used (less than 5 hours) Pimax Crystal?
@VirtualAirTour
@VirtualAirTour 11 ай бұрын
Finally got an email reply from Pimax so I can begin processing the return. I'll be shipping the unit out in a couple of days. Fingers crossed I don't encounter any additional hassles attempting to return the unit for refund. It will be interesting to see how much Pimax deducts from the original purchase price.
@poolhallshark
@poolhallshark 11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, Steve. Great video. But no surprises in it for me. I know you too well by now for that. Have a great weekend, m8.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Cheers mate, I guess you know me too well, especially being such a great supporter of the channel. How's your new Crystal btw? isn't it just awesome? ;)
@poolhallshark
@poolhallshark 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Yes, it really is. It's just crazy how life-like it is now. The immersion is real, even without the butt-kicker and the motion rig and what not. LOL Looking forward to the eyetracker implementation as well. Foveated rendering on top of the already crazy good image we have ? We could potentially be looking at running it on 4000 resolution maybe.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
@@poolhallshark I've actually tried running at pure native resolution and with eye tracking, you can get away with it :)
@poolhallshark
@poolhallshark 11 ай бұрын
WOW! How does the native compare to the 3500X4143 ? Big difference ? I wouldn't REALLY think so? But it will definitely leave headroom to tweak in-game settings even higher, like the LOD. I have pretty much everything on ultra already 🙂, running at 3500@@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
​@@poolhallsharkThere is definitely a difference, if you remember my very first impressions video with the Crystal was using this native resolution and it blew me away
@markkovalcson7243
@markkovalcson7243 11 ай бұрын
And yet I believe I'm upgrading from my Varjo Aero to a BSB :)
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Since the lack of bulkiness and inertia from the headset's size is so important to you, I think you'll love it. Who knows, it may even have better optics than my pre-production unit In any case, I'm looking forward to hearing your impressions.
@AbideinChristFully
@AbideinChristFully 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy dang I just canceled my pre order because I keep thinking about the visual flaws. I told myself to wait for some reviews before canceling to see if it is improved. Ok I told them don't cancel it if the final unit is better.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Well for me, in its current state, I find it far too distracting as it's a constant fogging / glaring at the bottom of the lens. @@AbideinChristFully
@richardPalmisano
@richardPalmisano 11 ай бұрын
Not only that but the fov for me is not a sale
@markkovalcson7243
@markkovalcson7243 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy I've not heard about any issues with fogging from anyone, but I am curious about the issue with the bottom of your lenses since you have mentioned that from the very beginning. One thing I wonder about it whether it is a result of your prescription lens insert, or the lens itself. Since I wear contacts in VR, I won't have the lens insert which may or may not have an effect on what I see. Next month will be interesting.
@walvin68
@walvin68 11 ай бұрын
got a prob with the g2 am geting a blue screen any info on what it is
@jlepage36
@jlepage36 10 ай бұрын
I had that on my first G2. Luckily, it was under warranty at the time. They replaced everything.
@walvin68
@walvin68 10 ай бұрын
I did they replaced it all but then they replaced cable and now this cable as gone you can't get one at all any were
@Gorilla_Jones
@Gorilla_Jones 11 ай бұрын
Where is my XTAL 8K? 😊
@lvx4408
@lvx4408 11 ай бұрын
Surprising to hear you placed Aero over the Crystal, given your past videos. You do give some reasons so can't fault you for your choice, but does leave me somewhat confused. Still plan on buying the Crystal over the Aero at some point because the purchase just seems to make more sense to me (paying less for more, overall). Hopefully Pimax will continue to improve their customer relations, based on videos such as this
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
It's mainly due to the issues I've been hearing about from my subs which is a great shame, as it's a fantastic headset, flawed only by quality control issues (and the need for a battery which I've never liked). Thanks for watching.
@lvx4408
@lvx4408 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy that makes sense
@pranabgill1310
@pranabgill1310 5 ай бұрын
I wish you could actually show the headsets you're talking about. One needs to spell the names and do their research. I still don't know what was number 1? Auto caption SAYS "Viral arrow"
@eaglefirestudio
@eaglefirestudio 11 ай бұрын
another vote for Quest Pro (& a not long wait for Quest 3 so we can evaluate), the Pro looks great in flight sims, is multi-purpose & with large software suite available 🎉
@speedvr829
@speedvr829 11 ай бұрын
I love my pro. Great in all areas. I just want the Aero and keep pro for standalone when people come over. Not letting anyone near my aero. It's mine. Lol Bboy.
@JohnVanderbeck
@JohnVanderbeck 11 ай бұрын
They discontinued the Pro though
@eaglefirestudio
@eaglefirestudio 11 ай бұрын
@@JohnVanderbeckFalse information - the Quest Pro is still fully available now 19th August 2023…
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 11 ай бұрын
@@eaglefirestudio You need to learn what discontinued means. It means they aren't making any more, not that they aren't selling any more. There's still plenty of stock to sell. And yes, Quest Pro having been discontinued is confirmed by Meta themselves. It was just a huge bomb that didn't sell very well. It's pretty much a deluxe Quest 2 sold for an extremely high price, made for businesses. Problem is businesses weren't buying it and it was too expensive for regular consumers for a device that's just a minor upgrade from the Quest 2. Even after all the price drops it's still too expensive for regular consumers. Anyhow, Quest 3 is probably coming pretty soon. In about a month or so there will be presentation about it and it will likely release shortly afterwards (so September or October).
@eaglefirestudio
@eaglefirestudio 11 ай бұрын
@@thenonexistinghero Pro is still available 23rd August & you've failed to provide an official Meta statement...
@clubdeejay
@clubdeejay 11 ай бұрын
The Crystal is my first VR headset, and while I understand some of the complaints people have about it, I do not regret my purchase whatsoever. I guess my neck muscles are beefy from swinging my massive head around - the weight of the Crystal doesn't bother me, and it fits me well. The plastic does feel a tad cheap, but not terribly so.
@bradule1980
@bradule1980 11 ай бұрын
No Meta in da house?
@gorekakohnerknet5773
@gorekakohnerknet5773 11 ай бұрын
XTAL from Vrgineers but price is unreal
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
I'd love to try one for the giggles!
@lanfeustdaytona4483
@lanfeustdaytona4483 11 ай бұрын
I use the G2, it's a good VR headset despite its medium FOV, limited sweetspot, inaccurrate IPD setting, getting hotter than every other headsets, audio problems (bad electrical contact). IT IS REALLY A SHAME THAT BIGSCREEN BEYOND GOT GLARE ! IT IS REALLY A SHAME THAT AERO HAS limited vertical FOV ! IT IS REALLY A SHAME THAT CRYSTAL IS SO BULKY AND ITS SOFTWARE SO BAD ! IT IS REALLY A SHAME THAT PICO 4 HAS NO NATIVE PC LINK !
@nickcutting4556
@nickcutting4556 11 ай бұрын
buy one of each, dismantle them, take the good bits, make your own Frankenstein VR headset :)
@jlepage36
@jlepage36 10 ай бұрын
Good points, not seeing a clear winner overall. Aero lack of audio is a big downer also when coming from the G2. Pico 5 Pro Max has some real potential. Wireless + full displayport and 4K micro-LEDs per eye. I'm on the fence about Quest 3 -- maybe if I can get a decent amount when selling my Quest 2 I could justify an upgrade. I used my Quest 2 maybe 40 hours in total in 2 almost 2 years.
@waynesstuff6308
@waynesstuff6308 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and respect your opinions more than any other provider. However, I'm a little surprised with ranking the Aero over the Crystal. In your videos you have said that in visuals, audio, color, blacks, price and much more the Crystal is better than the Aero. You even said it was your favorite over the Aero. It seems that you have put all the pros aside because you're not sure if the crystal will last or Pimax may not have as good support. It seems to me that judgement should be made on the merits as they are now, not what they might be. I currently have a G2, 8KX, Pico 4, and Pimax Crystal. The Crystal has been flawless right out of the box. Weighting the best value is one thing but It seems the ranking should just simply be based on which is the actually best. Again, I must say that you are my go to guy for VR. I'm just surprised.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for your comments, and support. It's the reason I keep going! This was an extremely tough decision for me to make and I nearly scrapped the video. The main reason for ranking the Aero higher, is simply the amount of people who are actually having issues with the Crystal. It's clearly a "luck of the draw" situation at present whether you get a working one or not. I cannot ignore that and I hope Pimax can improve their quality control, but as I say, it's a phenomenal headset otherwise. Cheers!
@rdaxthedog
@rdaxthedog 7 ай бұрын
My crystal is now junk massive quality and connection issues. Basically it’s a brick.
@willsta21
@willsta21 6 ай бұрын
Could of shown us the headsets and price! Good narration lazy video production.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@stevebobowski3507
@stevebobowski3507 11 ай бұрын
You get what you pay for.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Many people complained about the price of the Aero, but as you say, the quality of their materials is a cut above anything else.
@stevebobowski3507
@stevebobowski3507 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy honestly, I've been through alot of hmds. I went cheap at 1st but the lust for better had me spending more money than I needed to if I only would have went for the best from the start. In a few years time when the next big hmd drops ill probably say the same thing about the aero though lol. Real talk.....I'd spend 5k easy on a hmd that checked all the boxes on my dream list such as huge FOV, selectable refresh rate (90/120/180/260) , local dimming, etc,etc,etc.....but as we know that the masses want cost effective so unfortunately there will never be that "perfect" hmd. Speaking of FOV tho.....I recently modded my aero. I'll post on your discod on the aero thread. You'll want to see this.
@Ajvella31
@Ajvella31 11 ай бұрын
so, when youre showcasing 4k+ headsets, why are we watching it in 1080p still....kind of defeats the purpose
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
Feel free to pay for better Internet for me.
@Ajvella31
@Ajvella31 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy so, the upload takes a bit longer, so what
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
@@Ajvella31 It takes hours.
@Ajvella31
@Ajvella31 11 ай бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy I'll go watch VR channels that are willing to invest time into video quality then. Especially on the topic of image quality. Cheers.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 11 ай бұрын
@@Ajvella31 Don't forget to close the door on the way out 🤣
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