"Everyone who doesnt like Tyrion can basically die" - Literal motto of High Elves armed forces

14:40, "He's not a strong legendary lord." In the background Karl Franz misses so hard with Gal'maraz that a guy's head explodes.

im still convinced that the easiest is count noctilus. You start in the middle of nowhere with no active wars outside of 1 fight and you are free to do w/e the hell you want.

I find that when you ally with a faction they basically become super passive and weak and never recruit their armies. Break off ties with them and suddenly they're fielding multiple full stack armies. Explains why my allies are always getting wiped out.

Nr. 5. 0:37 Naggarond Nr. 4 4:25 Clan Skryre Nr. 3 7:50 Clan Eshin Nr. 2 10:29 The Empire Nr. 1 14:45 Lothern You're welcome.

I'm so agree on "cozy" starting positions. It's most important thing for me. I can deal with weak armies or Lords as long i'm not pressed to constantly running in circles trying to fight off enemies from every direction. Or can fall back to "safe heaven" home province if i make a mistake.

Gor-Rok is pretty easy in my opinion just say the magic word: KROAK!!!

"Nobody likes Clan Skryre. And you know what? That's okay, because.." *ZOOM IN ON SKAVEN FACE* Me: Ah, I see

"I'd probably give Karl Franz a 7/10" C is for Karl, and that's good enough for me!

This is your best "top x" video yet. Great editing. Informative commentary, with little to no stumbling on your words. And of course, the content itself is interesting, and helpful (as usual). These videos may be difficult for you to make, but the effort really shows, and it's awesome to see the progress you've made. Good job, my dude.

"You already start off at war with Australia" Damn we know now that the fires were actually warp fires from ikit claw

''oh geez im terrible here'' back at it again with them quality videos

I was starting to miss these top 5 videos

Top 5 Weakest Magic Lores. I'm very interested in your opinion.

Honourable mention: Kroq-gar. Corner start, cheaper and strong Saurus into cheaper dinosaurs. Added to that he is one of the strongest LLs around in combat once on Grymloq, offers +4 public order all provinces with skills and items and starts with a Heavens Skink priest. Great stuff and great list from Legend!

"High elves get the best archers." Bold words from someone in zombie rifle range.

Just wanted to stop by to say thank you for this video. As a newbie to the game, it's extremely helpful to have some quick and dirty starting strategies for different starts.

thank you, Legend, i've learned a lot from your Warhammer 2 videos and streams, keep doing what you're doing)

id love to see a video on equipment synergy with various legendary lords and heroes. For example, I gave my Isabella vampire doomstack glittering scales which gives -5 to melee to everyone in a 40m radius. It stacks, which makes them completely untouchable in melee. Love these videos!

Love your videos, top 5 are especially interesting. Thanks for the good work mate.

Now do a video of starts that say their easy buf are actually VERY difficult, looking at you Mazdamundi!!

Clan Eshin also get passive bonus to their gutter/night runners that makes them do extra armour piercing damage, turning them into surprisingly good ranged troops, available pretty much from the start. They can also move at pretty much cavalry speed when you stack some bonuses too.

Love ur vids, very informative and helpful! Keep the good work up as always!

im on like turn 100 with skryre and didnt notice you can scroll down on the weapon teams tab in the workshop

Totally agree with Malekith, but you forgot to mention one of the most important points you usually mention, being in the corner of the map!

I like how you added some battle footage throughout the video.

Legend I have to say your knowledge on this game is impressive. I love your videos for tips and ways forward.

These are basically compartmentalized first 20 turn guides for 5 factions... nice.

The subtitles for this starting was “Oh jeez I’m terrible here and today we’re..” which I find appropriate for this video in particular.

"Oh geeze I'm terrible here." Love them CC.

I expected Kroq-gar on #1. He starts off on an isolated corner, you can take your initial region and the nearby lizardmen region which also have some unique buildings and that's a very good start. You can just pick your fights from there.

have you done a video about top 10 special buildings in the game?

I always found Repanse's start to be the easiest in the entire game. She starts with a landmark port that generates lots of money... She has 2 human cities right next door that both love her. You can get non-aggression + trade + military access, maybe even defense pact all right at the start. As soon as you beat your very first enemy, one of them wants to confederate. So you start with 1 city, occupy 2 more, confederate 2 more, and there are 2 ruins you can colonize. You get tons of land really quickly. Also, tomb kings tend to be pushovers for the most part, aside from the few armies that have intensely strong units like Settra's warsphinx. The rest just fall over. What is even better is you can send a lord without an army across the sea to discover tilea + all the brettonia factions and by the time it discovers them all, you will have finished your research projects that grant +100 diplomatic relations with every one of the confederable factions and +50 to all other human factions like tilea and the empire to secure tons of powerful allies right off and start mass confederation. Unless most races, your confederation grants public order instead of taking away from it, and you can do it rapidly to acquire those extra lands. Your only neighbors in brettonia are one settlement of orcs and 1-2 settlements of vampire counts in the form of red duke, and then 1 settlement for kemmler, you can wipe out the only enemies you have almost immediately and everyone else in the area loves the hell out of you. You expand faster than any other faction possible I think because of constant confederations and just such a strong start and weak enemies. By turn 30, you control a quarter of the world, have military alliances with another quarter, and can all work together to rapidly crush the greenskins and skaven. And, because of your diplo bonuses to elves and lizardmen, you can make military alliances with all of them as well. After a very short stint wiping out tomb kings, then helping allies mop up orcs, the only enemy left to fight is the dark elves. It is actually nuts how fast Repanse snowballs into a world superpower.

I'd say the Dreadfleet has one of the easiest starting positions. The only aggravation is starting at war with Caledor, but you can essentially ignore them after beating their initial force. Being out in the middle of the ocean gives you as much time as you want to plot and scheme where to strike

really great video :D now I wish you did this with every faction :D...maybe an idea for the next video ? :D

Top 5 factions for 'this is total war' in Mortal Empires

"They tend to not use the underway" Meanwhile in my Empire campaign, a Skullsmasher army attacks through the Southern Grey Mountains instead of attacking Helmgart head on

Fireball and malekiths strike combo was beautiful.

Watched a lot of your content. Haven't heard you mention Alexander Total War a lot especially in the top 5 challenging campaigns. Great content tho, enjoyed watching your uploads.

On skryre, I like to take a small gamble and do the lvl4 cheese on miragliano on turn 8 or 9(as soon as food is high enougth), because ai defending a city is dumb. Its early enougth that failing doesnt hurt too much, and having miragliano and skaenblight is real nice.

Although I agree that snikch has a pretty easy start, I think you forgot about the lizardmen on the south. In two of my campaigns with clan Eshin They've declared war on me and immediately attacked my south settlements. Now hopefully by the time they attack you would have dealt with the greenskins, but if you are at war with the dwarves they can be a bit of a pain in the ass

very nice edits, thank you Mrs. Legend

I always thought I was doing something wrong when playing Ikit cause I wasn’t expanding, thankfully I realised like you said that it doesn’t matter if you are gaining levels and food.

Fully agree on the Marienburg trap. I thought about not taking it as Louen Leoncour, either, for the exact same reason.

Plus Ikitt Claw can conquer Miragliano somewhat early and safley, which is another 10 slot settlement with harbour and pastures, which are of course very beneficial for Skavens.

“Oh geez I’m terrible here”

Awesome video, great b roll for each faction.

Kroq Gar I would say has the coziest start positions in the game. In a literal corner of the map surrounded by factions weaker than him

Thank you. Will try the game again...

Karl Franz might not be 10/10 but BRING ME TO MY MEN and I'll show you. Always the dwarfs come to scorn us...

Wtf clan skryre? The simplest start. On 1 turn -> Tobaro -> Tier 3 build -> smithy for catapults -> 4-8 Plagueclaw Catapults -> capital of Estalia -> Miragliano -> recruitment 6+ Ratling Gun Weapons Team and 2+ Warplock Jezzails -> some on 15 turn we have full stack and go wherever we want (for example, to Clan Angrund)

Thanks for this amazing content almighty cheeselord! No seriously i really enjoy your videos and streams so keep it up. :) Actually i wanted to ask you if you could make a video about spending skillpoints the right way? I feel like i may be doing something wrong with skilling my lords appropiately ^^ Thank you!

Do a top 5 warhammer 2 hardest starting positions vid next

Can you do top 5 underrated Total War dlc or factions? You're choice.

I had no idea that clan skyre added the mortar, grinder and bombadiers into the worshop mechanic, wow

Honestly, starting near the gold mines that are Estalia and Tilea is a game-changer. It's what makes Khazrak's start bearable compared to Malagor's. Even Carcassone tends to go for peasants which are easily wiped. The random greenskin hordes and temperamental dwarves are really the only worry. Unless you're playing Skryre. Then you have no worries.

Thank you Legend very cool

Top 5 OP enemy factions in total war games. Basically factions that either due to being naturally powerful, confederation spam or just getting hella cheats are a genuine threat to the player and pose a risk of causing a game over.

Malekith Campaign will 100% get much harder in Warhammer 3, specially if the Map expands further North, Sigvald gets a new starting location, and also Daemons of Slaanesh will likely start their invasion from the Frozen Wastes.

That "Fuckers." at the end always catches me off guard. I love it

As far as starting Empire as Karl Franz, I would always go to Eilhart first because if you leave them with just Helmgart they wont have the money to raise a new army and you can deal with them as you see fit or just wait for the orcs to roll through and clean up after.

also you forgot that Marienburg in the Reikland campaign can lead to a domino effect if it is left all by itself. Couronne starts off at war with Marienburg and could end up conquering Marienburg followed by the fall of Nordland and then Ostland as well as the rest of the Empire factions if it is left unattended. This pressures you to take out Marienburg before the other Provinces intervene.

Nice, top 5 again!!

a good tip for lothern is to start by recruiting a new lord have him recruit new units outside the settlement and make an ambush with Tyrion if the ambush succeeds it becomes very easy to end the dark elves by turn 5

Just realized you can scroll down on the weapon team menu in the forbidden workshop and buff poison wind mortars, etc

In my ME Clan Skryre playthrough Tilea never really declared war on me. It got to like turn 100+ and their only notable feat was taking out the pirates of Sartosa but other than that they just build up a few armies and just vibed until I decided to finally kill them.

I bought the game less than 12 hours ago and started playing with Tyrion, and I'm loving it

Honestly I was interest in bottom 5 more than Top 5 startimg positions.

Can personally attest that starting an Empire campaign as Volkmar makes the beginning a lot harder. Since it takes longer to take out the secessionists, there's an increased chance that the Skull-Smashers will declare war on you and also arrive in Reikland while there's still one secessionist settlement left, and that's a real pain dealing with two full-stack greenskin armies plus a full-stack trash secessionist army (not impossible, just split them up, but still a pain)...especially if you only have two full stacks.

Watching Ikkit jetpack into battle never gets old.

A note on the dark elves: taking rakdo gorge is not a good idea at start. It penalises the entire province with the production debuff

TIL you can scroll down in the Forbidden Workshop Weapon Teams tab to upgrade Poisoned Wind Mortars and Bombadiers.

TIL that on the Forbidden Workshop you can scroll down on the weapons team section to upgrade other units. Skyre also happens to be the faction that I've played through most >

Legend didn’t mention Warpgrinders as Clan Skryre, but if you should bring as many as your micro allows, IMO. Fully upgraded Warpgrinders are unbreakable, have regeneration, and annihilate elite infantry, cavalry, and chariots with over 110 AP WS on like 33 MA. Seismic Snare also acts as an even better Expert Charge Defense for its duration because it will snag every enemy that enters the radius, not just those in it at cast. It’s actually best used for charge denial, I’d argue, because it’s shorter than most other snares/nets. Skryre’s usual problems are a lack of frontline, but these things are second to none when it comes to standing in the front and killing everything in arm’s reach and locking up things that aren’t quite. They also break walls extremely quickly if that’s what you’re into.

Do top 5 or top 10 legendary lord skill trees where you take into account how good a legendary lords skill tree is. For instance when playing as manfred 40 skill points seem so few because tjere are so many good things he has that you can unlock. Meanwhile when playing as belegar i struggle to find any good skills except the eneric ones like lightning strike

Further the beastmen tend to eat estalia before dividing into carcassonne around turn 15. Kind of like Nakai

Might have been asked before but, what are your thoughts on the lixardmen faction called "the Last defenders that start out in the bottom right of the map? No flanks to worry about and if quick enough you may even have 2 provinces by the end of turn 10 with 2 really good settlements. At least that's my personal record. Looking forward to the next top 5 ^^

everything you said about har ganeth is exactly why i play her whenever i play dark elves, honestly mostly to blame is why their capital is not a port city, if that was the case she would at least know when you are destroying people she doesnt get along with

My Skyre campaign slowly became Skyre vs the world as I had 1 agent go to into lustria to get the quest steps for ikkit and try and confederate with pestilence, then north to find craven tail, then back down to east to get eshin and mors. Eventually everyone that was not south east of me declared war and about 50 turns later an armarda of lizardmen and highelves came knocking on Estalia, about 7 stacks each. Managed to finally beat them all off at the cost of one minor settlement and went from 10k to 90k after all the battles were over.

To me with reikland the most important thing in the beginning is to conquer übersreik before Turn 8 or 9. Beacause then they build the Taverne witch provides their garisson with 4 heroes. If they dont have this its easy to conquer the city and 1 Turn Later helmgart to.

Yeah Malekith got hard boned now lol. Getting the chaos invasion on his front door. Really easy without the chaos invasion on, but turn that up to legendary and good night 90% of players northern holdings lol (myself included).

Can you do an in depth Tierlist of the legendary lords/ Factions

Updated as of Warden and the Paunch. Now its listed as Normal for Malekeith.

Idk if something has changed, but with the empire i've never even seen an ork, but the vampirrs always have me on the backfoot, they usually have Averland by turn 12

You didn't consider (or at least didn't mention) how much people rebel with Naggarond also if you don't deal with clan Rictus at the beginning they will come back super strong later

What about The Last Defenders? I always found their starting location to be stupidly strong and easy, plus their town Temple of Skulls has extremely strong towers on a relatively small sized settlement.

Always like the top 5 Vids :)

For Clan Eshin the biggest threat is the lizardmen beating Malus darkblade and coming for you with saurus stacks. Also stormvermin are 2500 a piece plus double cost weapons teams and artillery.

Got a very good nagaroth campaign going. Lustria naggarond ulthuan and norsca are mine, i have a dozen arks, a lot of high tier armies, and i placed 3 masters in every wealthy province to reduce slave reduction to 0%. Economy is therefore mental. I do have to fight a very powerful empire with all its allies. Practically old world vs new world.

personally i like starting with alarielle over tyrion, because she can build the handmaidens structure at settlement lvl3, allowing her to put it in minor settlements; which frees up slots in your major settlement. also you start with a wood resource, which when developed gives nice bonuses to recruited sisters of avelorn. the only downside imo is that the AI tends to be pretty terrible at leveling legendary lords, so by the time you'Re big enough to confederate you might get a horribly skilled tyrion with no way of undoing it (and before people bring it up: yes i know there are mods for respeccing lords, but i'm talking about vanilla here)

Kinda suprised itza isnt on this starting with the floating nuke kroak is just beautiful

I tried playing twice as the dark elves on legandary, both times by turn 5 i was at war with the skaven, Varg and Hag Graef, the moment i take the 2nd skaven city they all just declare war on me, I feel like it is the hardest position to start in, but maybe it was just bad RNG

Good to see they made the empire easier. They were the first empire i tried and i just got bored with them being at war with 50 people

Top 5 Hardest Starting positions in Warhammer 2. My third attempt at Morathi campaign on very hard. Its turn 70 and I finally have a position outside of my starting province. However the 6 factions that Im at war with keep flinging there stacks at my settlements and sacking them. While I only have 2 armies that I can sustain to defend with, even with 5k slaves.

Another thing about the "initial challenge" is that they haven't been updated. So dwarves were set back in the first release of the first game. Now, so much has been updated and while I'm not great at this game, I'd call it extremely difficult. God damn it is so hard. Black Crag just, will not die, ever. I played on normal difficulty but I wiped out his entire army, he was 130 or something on the power rankings, then 3 turns later he's got a full stack coming down from the fucking bloody spears land he confederated a while ago and sneaks up on the rest of Karaz-a-Karak and god it was so difficult. The recent map expansion makes it worse because now there's enemies to the east to worry about. Bloody Spearz is a bit bigger, and skaven will spread over there and start corrupting your land. So of course you want to eliminate them, but there's so many other things you need to do too.

I would put Krok-Gar at number 2 or even 1, personally. I'd almost say the should add a new "Initial Challenge" of "Too Easy" for him. Being able to take that whole area of 5 provinces practically unopposed by any serious threats and the factions there don't team up with each other, and then the area is easy to defend with just the 2 choke points leading out is OP. Now with Malus and Snictch nearishby it's a bit different but not much by look of it (havent actually tried recently)

I've always wanted a corner start position.

I feel like Malus is easier than Malekith. Here is my case: As Malus, you get cheap construction and melee attack sucks on very hard battle difficulty anyways (12+ missle units that don't care about the melee attack) As Malus, you get Hag Graef (-60% local upkeep + lots of money) As Malus, you start with a Black ark (very good for getting sack money etc, get early start on recruit buildings) Although, it should be noted that this assumes you have some knowledge of how the campaign works and keep Hag Graef. Good guide though otherwise!

What's your thoughts on the Dreadfleet starting position?

I think I would have put Avelorn on the list. Imo, the inner ring of Ulthuan is the safest territory in the game, especially the east side where there arent any gates and the mountains are too wide to tunnel.