Top 5 Turkish Handguns (ft. Kaya of Classic Firearms)

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In this exciting episode of TFBTV, ‪@JamesReeves‬ teams up with Kaya from ‪@ClassicFirearms‬ to showcase the top 5 Turkish handguns. From 1911s and 2011s to striker-fired models and even a Beretta Cheetah clone, we dive into the best offerings from top Turkish brands like Girsan, Tisas, SAR, and Canik. Join us as we discuss the features, performance, and value of these impressive firearms. Whether you're a seasoned shooter or new to the world of handguns, this video has something for everyone. Don't miss out on this in-depth review and comparison of Turkish craftsmanship at its finest!
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CONTENTS:
0:00 Introduction
3:25 Girsan Witness 2311
7:20 Girsan MC 14T
9:51 Tisas Night Stalker 1911
12:09 Canik Taran Tactical Innovations Combat Master
16:40 SAR 9 SOCOM
20:20 Wrap up and Conclusion
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@rickh9396 Ай бұрын

These two guys cleaned out all the smedium shirts in New Orleans area stores during Kaya's visit.

@Steeler307 Ай бұрын

Plus, Larry Birds safari court shorts.

@BryantMoore87 26 күн бұрын

@@Steeler307 💀💀

@TheSmoke420TiresBbqGuns Ай бұрын

At the bathhouse his names Turkish Delight

@davegeorge9538 21 күн бұрын

🏆 you win the Internet today!

@grahamr4916 Ай бұрын

I think it should be noted that TISAS, Girsan, and MKE are all pretty well established at this point. Most of the shotgun manufacturers are just sweatshop startups that just slap parts together.

@JJ_SDWR Ай бұрын

I recently picked up an SDS Mac 2 (Benelli M2 clone) and with about 200 shells of buck/slugs through it I've been impressed. I paid 300 and I'm good with the product.

@alexander1902 Ай бұрын

I have yet to meet someone to speak highly of any of those guns. They're cheap and fire MOST of the time. That's all.

@brandondavis4306 Ай бұрын

@@alexander1902 then you are talking to gun snobs I own several turkish weapons and they all run prefect for me I own too tisas 1911's and they have yet to fail me. both have over 400 rounds.

@11aaguilar Ай бұрын

@@brandondavis4306respectfully, 400 rounds is nothing and is not indicative of a good product. If it makes it to 5,000 rounds without issues, let us know

@Standefiant Ай бұрын

@@alexander1902 Girsans are great

@rickpineo2588 Ай бұрын

James hanging with his Turkish clone of himself with genetic improvements😉

@dsanchez9703 Ай бұрын

😂

@dezrtrat702 Ай бұрын

That was almost gay

@mmancino1982 Ай бұрын

Lmfao

@Brad-ic4bp Ай бұрын

A used $250 Canik TP9SF was the first semi-auto pistol I ever bought (years ago). It was 100% reliable, easy to shoot, accurate and easy to maintain. Budget knock-offs or not, Caniks are great value.

@colt10mmsecurity68 17 күн бұрын

…great if you’re too poor to buy anything of quality. Screw any company that builds under the sword of a crescent moon.

@aaronpat123 17 күн бұрын

Me too.

@richdubbya Ай бұрын

The SAR CZ clones are pretty friggin top notch. Surprisingly good.

@Holloway_Farm Ай бұрын

My B6's extractor broke on the first mag. SAR refused to fix it. Any company that doesn't honor their warranty won't get any money from me.

@DarthWolfen077 Ай бұрын

Indeed, though it could use a few tweaks on the trigger if you know what im saying

@Bossplaier-px1ic Ай бұрын

@@Holloway_Farmthanks for that. I was just looking at one of these and now I won’t look to buy anymore.

@rogerwood5228 Ай бұрын

The K2 is one of my favorite shooters. Absolute beast.

@DazdnCofuzd Ай бұрын

You sure they're CZ clones, look more like H&K clones.

@davidgraflex2065 Ай бұрын

James and Kaye have great chemistry

@yussefhyman7311 Ай бұрын

Yo! When he “blessed” the Gucci Gersan, I cracked the hell up!!🤣🤣🤣

@fancyfancypunx Ай бұрын

Ryan going for those porn camera angles. Creativity pays off.

@propdoctor21564 Ай бұрын

Helps get more women watching the channel 😁

@user-zi1ev2xj6c Ай бұрын

Video of James' "turkey in the straw" in its natural habitat.

@jic1 Ай бұрын

@@propdoctor21564 Yep, women. That's who they're trying to attract.

@mikeorick6898 Ай бұрын

There are 8 Turkish companies that make pistols, 85 that make shotguns. Canik is owned by a company that makes aircraft parts for Airbus, Boeing, and Lockheed; they know hi-tech gear. Turkish Defense Industries (SSB) under the Indigenous Local Handgun Development (ÖYTG) Project delivered over 400,000 pistols manufactured by Sarsılmaz (HK clone), Samsun Yurt Savunma/SYS, CANIK (Walther clone) and Girsan (Beretta clone) to the Turkish Armed Forces (TAF) and the Turkish National Police (TNP). The pistols had to meet or exceed the NATO and US test standards to be selected. They've won some Asian contracts. I've been issued the M15, M1911A1, M9 and M11. My Canik runs as well. It runs better than some of the M17/18s I've seen on military, police, and private ranges.

@DarthWolfen077 Ай бұрын

Also the fact that the SAR-9 was the only Handgun to surpass the NATO stress test of 100,000 rounds without the need of changing any components… That’s a testament of how good this pistol is.

@ericmacfarlane6695 Ай бұрын

Tha is actually impressive

@hey1010101010929384 Ай бұрын

Loved my sar 9

@03Grunt-arrino Ай бұрын

*According to the Turkish Ministry of Defense. I’m sure they were impartial. Haha

@wheelguns4wheelmen802 Ай бұрын

I have shot a friend’s SAR-9 on multiple occasions and it’s basically a Glock 17 that is slightly more ergonomic.

@heat147 Ай бұрын

thats a huge lie with a big bold ignorance for any manufacturer in the planet, Even MK23 can not pull that coun't without spring replacements.

@to3ta64 Ай бұрын

The fact that you guys left out the Tisas Zigana PX-9 series is criminal. The only Turkish Pistol that I know of that’s had a Country(Philippines)Contract for it, and that has seen real life use in Police force and a little with their military.

@stevec9704 Ай бұрын

James loves his Turkish guns 💪🏻

@Philosopher-TR Ай бұрын

I live in Turkey and I can't get a gun because of the damn European council laws

@elmeramuro Ай бұрын

we get james flaming turkey with their #1 youtube rep in person, Wonderful

@christianiversen8227 Ай бұрын

Kaya is a great guy. James, you were FIRE in this vid! I could not have laughed harder when you referenced your own kidnapping in Istanbul. Great shit talk.

@bobyjones3905 Ай бұрын

I actually got a Springfield XDM elite 9mm cheaper than most Turkish guns

@sertank735 Ай бұрын

He writes his middle initial on his ear pro so people don’t call him “Junior” at the range.

@Dibbs10101 Ай бұрын

Good to see James getting out and making friends.

@larsbliss2728 Ай бұрын

I dig my tisas hi-power clone. I did grab a few turkish side by side shotguns. No complaint about any of them.

@MX5autoxer Ай бұрын

Tisas only has 1911, Beretta 84, and PX-9 models. Girsan has a High Power.

@one-metallica4156 Ай бұрын

I have a Girsan Hi Power, it’s awesome.

@jstud999 Ай бұрын

@@MX5autoxerso you’re telling OP he doesn’t own what he owns ? Why don’t you Google “ Tisas hi power” before making you self look silly in KZfaq comments.

@Desutroy Ай бұрын

Tisas used to make a hi power clone. The thing just up and disappeared from the market and a year later Girsan comes out with theirs. Tbh, Girsan making modern optic and railed versions. They shoot well too

@one-metallica4156 Ай бұрын

@@Desutroy I will say, Girsans modernized versions of the Hi Power is making FN look bad.

@kungfukitten6735 Ай бұрын

My theory for the quality discrepancy between the shotguns and handguns is that the handguns are being made for the US budget market but most of the shotguns are made for the Turkish budget market. So a company like Canik can make a 4 to 6 hundred dollar handgun and deliver a quality product with a decent profit margin, but if they tried to sell those handguns in turkey where the average monthly wages are much lower that 400 to 600 dollar pistol would be the equivalent in terms of affordability to a 5 to 6 thousand dollar pistol in the US market.

@fixerupperer Ай бұрын

Pretty sure Turkish citizens mostly cant legally own handguns.

@TurkishRepublicanX 27 күн бұрын

You are close, pistols are made for the Turkish military, that has about half a million personnel whereas the shotguns are made for civvies who aren't as knowledgable about firearms as most american buyers so they buy anything that looks cool. Turkish military on the other hand has very high standards for weapons, obviously.

@bicevorsi1705 24 күн бұрын

Canik sfx rival in turkey one tousand us dollars if you want to buy american gun kimber 1911aegis elite 8300 us dollars Springfield prodigy 1911 9150 dollars and procedures hard and you must pay taxes for five years 1500us dollars

@LVbibby Ай бұрын

Epic gold bling filled garish piece and the Kaya under carriage segment chef's kiss never change Men!

@propdoctor21564 Ай бұрын

Great video as always entertaining and informative... I own several different models of Sar-Arms/Sarsilmaz pistols and have been very happy with them.

@kingbaldwiniv5409 Ай бұрын

Thank you!!! I finally get to see Sarsilmaz on TFB TV! I have shot several Sar pistols, and loved them. Canik and Sarsilmaz are remarkable pistol makers, I am a big fan of both.

@joshmajor8662 Ай бұрын

He seems MUCH cooler here instead of on classic for some reason Lol 😂

@lz_377 Ай бұрын

Yea I feel like he plays more of a tough guy character on Classic. He seemed more natural here.

@mattwhite7421 Ай бұрын

I have a Tisas Raider 45. Its a great range toy. The trigger is fantastic. They did have a recall but Tisas was nice enough to give me a free mag when they sent the gun back to me.

@KracknCorn Ай бұрын

Tactical short shorts boys in town

@Philosopher-TR Ай бұрын

We are happy to have such a strong ally🇺🇸🇹🇷🇺🇸🇹🇷🇺🇸🇹🇷🇺🇸🇹🇷

@Mtn_Mig Ай бұрын

I have a Girsan 1911 model that was sold briefly in the US and I love it. It looks great, it's well made, and works flawlessly all for less than $500.

@felipeCMoon 26 күн бұрын

Best collaboration video ever! Great job!

@robertk407 Ай бұрын

Man I love my Girsan hi power clone

@jmpetersrn Ай бұрын

Are the magazines cross compatible to a Browning HI Power?

@DARTHDANSAN Ай бұрын

Check out girscan mc1911sc

@AndrewDasilvaPLT Ай бұрын

Agreed.

@robertk407 Ай бұрын

@@jmpetersrn Yes.

@zombieslayer7759 Ай бұрын

Oddly enough, their single stack 1911's are supposed to be pretty good for the money.

@manuelporro-vizcarra184 Ай бұрын

Nice colab. Blessings to both

@jimfarmer693 Ай бұрын

Another great video, thanks.

@aliozturk4195 Ай бұрын

erdal reis selam bu efsane sevdiğim kanalda seni de görmek güzel... thx tfb dude for coop with erdal

@suchit1975 Ай бұрын

I love the collaboration.

@larryratliff2215 Ай бұрын

Great collaboration TFB and Kaya...

@Cooleyo789 Ай бұрын

Need more James and Kaya, shiz is hilarious

@mitchfritz6047 Ай бұрын

"top 5 rashes to have on the back of your nutsack"

@johncoleman2495 Ай бұрын

James showed you at least 4 of those with his upskirt shot🤣

@nehalchishti9814 Ай бұрын

Could also include Tisas PX9 Gen 3/Carry , Girsan Regard MC/R9 , Canik TP9 SF Elite/Elite Combat/SFX Rival , Stoeger Cougar 8000 etc. And some honorable mentions like Sarsilmaz (CZ 75 clones) , Tisas Zigana K/F/Kanuni/M16 , Girsan MC9 etc.

@jimsig2194 Ай бұрын

Excellent review.. I like the caniks but they have major flaw in the grip design that is why you can not shoot the gun fast enough as it jumps alot. I even emailed canik company about the issue and the remedy for enhancing the geometry of the design but no one even replied to my email.. On the other hand the SAR9 looks like they have addressed this issue by the specific shape of the grip at a specific location and the proof is the gun was dead stable in Kaya's hands as he was speed shooting it. IF CANIK GUYS ARE LISTENING I HAVE THE DESIGN IDE TO MAKE THE CANIK MORE STABLE AND EFFECTIVE FOR SPEED SHOOTING LIKE THE SAR9

@Crangaso Ай бұрын

James & Kaya - Top 5 Turkish Delights!

@larry648 Ай бұрын

Well, I have a Canik TP9SFX and a Winchester SXP marine defender. Both are very reliable. I love the trigger on the Canik.

@gregwilcox2047 Ай бұрын

James please don't go to turkey you will be kidnapped

@LFDNC Ай бұрын

Only because of his shorts.

@dongvermine Ай бұрын

Wrong.

@SonoraSlinger Ай бұрын

They'd pass him around like a paper bag of miss sharpen Oreos in a prison.

@AdamKorz-ku7fz Ай бұрын

Turkey is beautiful, love the people. Kind to animals too.

@bp8023 Ай бұрын

We know what they did to Lawrence of Arabia.

@bevans7772 Ай бұрын

Girsan Regard is my favorite pistol in my collection. I enjoy it more than my Beretta m9a4 and I don’t mind abusing it.

@AndrewDasilvaPLT Ай бұрын

Agreed.

@kevinallies1014 Ай бұрын

It is a better 92 than the 92FS. Literally everything about it is superior.

@wheelguns4wheelmen802 Ай бұрын

Just did an update video on mine, as I recently reached the 3000 round mark. It’s good for the money, that’s for sure.

@NYG5 Ай бұрын

@@kevinallies1014only lacking point is not having a chrome lined barrel, which only needs like me seem to care about

@TheSheridanbrenton Ай бұрын

It's sad the regard was not used. I have one and it great.

@TunerGalleryGo Ай бұрын

the blessing killed me hahahaha

@ross_7751 Ай бұрын

I have a standard all black SAR-9 that I got for $249 on sale and it’s in my top 3 pistols that I own. Just fantastic.

@royroblox Ай бұрын

Some good fuggin energy here guys, really enjoyable

@asarjip Ай бұрын

SAR9 Subcompact Gen 2 and Tisas PX-9 Carry are my current Turkish favorites.

@t-bonesteak5057 Ай бұрын

The collab we didn’t expect but the collab we needed. Shoutout Kaya still holding down classic firearms.

@johnsnipes5514 Ай бұрын

I'm glad you made this video. I watch both channels, too, but i was really thinking about getting a witness. I think I'll get the tti or rival S instead,

@thePrussian Ай бұрын

My Winchester Extreme Defender 12g was made in Turkey and it’s awesome. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@sappysiggy2351 Ай бұрын

I have a Stevens 555 20g as a scouting companion, absolutely love it! Fit and finish is perfect. Yes I have Benelli's and Browning's but I wanted something to drag threw the mud all day and its a pleasure to carry

@PatrickJames9mm Ай бұрын

The SAR 9 is an awesome gun. Great choice! :)

@DEValentine Ай бұрын

Please review Turkish shotguns. Like, all of them.

@MrKingArthurhk Ай бұрын

Kaya looks like he took James’ chorts off.😂😂

@andrewb5415 Ай бұрын

I’ve got the Tisas night stalker in 45 , really like it

@lordhuck2689 Ай бұрын

Cool, can you do a video about the best single malt scotch distilled in Mexico next?

@puma51921 Ай бұрын

Perfect

@seanpenn4405 Ай бұрын

That's called mezcal

@Anomicchaos Ай бұрын

The Stoeger Cougar is always gonna be the best Turkish gun to me

@mrwdpkr5851 Ай бұрын

So....Berretta PX4 for the win !

@NYG5 Ай бұрын

Waiting for the day when they start churning out PX4 clones and actually update the design because Beretta is too fkn lazy to

@johnalexander7369 Ай бұрын

The Tisas 1911 and the Girsan Regard are two excellent handguns. My Girsan R9 has nearly 5k rounds with 2 malfunctions both ammo related. The Tisas a 1000 round and zero malfunctions with Wilson mags. For those of us that can’t or don’t want to spend $$$ on a custom . In the world of factory

@NYG5 Ай бұрын

The R9 is the M9A1 frame with the Brigadier slide, right? Mine came with the best DA/SA trigger I've ever had, my only issue is trying to find holsters that fit a flashlight and the Brigadier chunk

@Grumpyin Ай бұрын

Kit dropped a Turd. Made me Laugh 😂

@karldot Ай бұрын

I bought a Tisas 1911 kicks ass....no better 1911 at the price...accurate, reliable and beautiful stainless finish please have a look at it!!!!!

@GeorgeDocherty5 Ай бұрын

I just wanna know Kaya's forearm routine

@bidenisgod6978 29 күн бұрын

Sar9 is an absolutely amazing handgun. So easy to shoot well its crazy, fits hands great, reliable. Can't praise it enough

@ultra3535 Ай бұрын

My sar 9 is great. I put the Galloway reduced spring kit in and and gave it a “25 cent” polish and it shoots really nice. No jams, low recoil and never had a malfunction in about 1000 rnds . Pleasure to shoot.

@Wizwiz2112 Ай бұрын

I have a Sar P8L high end cz clone stainless Beautiful looking. Dead accurate. Love everything about it

@bobibobilli1537 Ай бұрын

This is like Voltron the Movie When the Lion and Car Voltron came together whattttttt😂🎉

@mma709 Ай бұрын

I love my Canik SFT PRO. I can live without the Taron tactical logo everywhere

@michaelboyle9512 Ай бұрын

James, the shorty shorts and long takeups never disappoint

@garyK.45ACP Ай бұрын

You should qualify your statements on Turkish shotguns, James. No one can question the failure of the Turkish semi-auto and pump shotguns _you have tested._ That said... My experience with Turkish O/U and SxS shotguns is that they are excellent! I don't expect you have the patience to fire 500 or 1000 rounds through an O/U, but I own 2 Huglu 20 ga. O/Us my wife and I have used to fire 100 rounds a week, most weeks, for more than 5 years. For our weekly sporting clays rounds. No, we do not shoot them with buckshot or slugs. (news flash, most people shoot very few of those rounds) They are not fired quickly...it takes us all morning to shoot two rounds (50 targets each) of clays. But after all that firing and all those years, they both work perfectly, every two shots. A popular Turkish skeet and sporting clays semi-auto are the ATA Venza series. They are not "Benelli clones". They are not "tacticool", they are classic sporting shotguns for clay shooting and hunting.

@lawrencemeadonia7500 Ай бұрын

You also need to notice that he's testing upstarts to the Turkish shotgun world. I have yet to see him try out an established company's imports from Turkey such as Mossberg, CZ, and Stoeger. Even Berreta imports some of their shotgun parts from Turkey, such as the A300 series, which includes their barrels from Stoeger.

@CutlassOutdoors Ай бұрын

“It’s like a beretta 84bb with a tip up barrel.” You mean literally a Beretta 86? It’s a clone of the Beretta 86, James.

@dirteater70 Ай бұрын

It’s not. It’s double stack the 86 is single stack

@wheelguns4wheelmen802 Ай бұрын

@@dirteater70was just about to say that; it’s a Beretta 86 that takes Beretta 84 double stack mags. So, an improved Beretta 86. But not a clone of either Beretta model. I love mine.

@josephesquivel4066 Ай бұрын

@@dirteater70 Still counts as a clone

@maddog8148 Ай бұрын

James is truly awesome in reviewing pistols and shotguns. But we all know he is a Beretta Fanboy!! That’s why he’s awesome. James knows 500 years of greatest doesn’t happen overnight!! 🙌🏼👍🏼💪🏼🇮🇹🇺🇸👍🏼❤️

@jessco8950 Ай бұрын

I am a proud owner of a Canik rival and out of all my pistols other than my alpha fox trot 1911 the Canik has the best trigger. It’s so light yet soooo crisp with such a short reset.

@tofolsalom5784 Ай бұрын

You should have included Tisas 1911 DS/2311 instead the Girsan

@andretaskmaster4101 24 күн бұрын

Love the bringing of classic firearms in to get that secondary though, excellent

@lunatic-hz5pr Ай бұрын

Love the collaboration with Kaya, cant get my hands on a SAR9, always sold out at my local dealership

@miyagifatghost2684 21 күн бұрын

Got a SAR9c im in love with it. Gonna buy another ine soon as well

@compasslife6658 Ай бұрын

I've had experience with Tisas Zigana, Canik TP9SF, SAR 9, and Stoeger STR9. All robust and excellent firearms at about half the cost of comparable offerings. Absolutely best bang for the buck.

@dougsmith2658 Ай бұрын

Stoeger.? Not a fan

@MrBuckeye63 Ай бұрын

I own a AHSS FXS-9 … absolutely wonderful pistol…

@patfetizanan5055 Ай бұрын

Love this collab. Well done gents!

@Dadof5-4 Ай бұрын

I carry a Girsan P35 PI. It shoots almost as good as my original HI Power

@franks6857 28 күн бұрын

Love the camaraderie. 2A, USA. This is what it's all about.

@Razcal1x Ай бұрын

you missed the Tisas double stacks, excellent pistols, at least mine are! I have the carry and the Nightstalker, both have run flawlessly, I did put EGW barrel bushings in them.

@bbbshot Ай бұрын

Love the intro music. Takes me back to the '80s.

@bobbyjohnson7191 19 күн бұрын

Had an older Girson 1911 loved it.

@markmasztal2253 Ай бұрын

Love my CANIK TP9 Elite, TP9SFX and Mete SFT.

@sgtkasi Ай бұрын

I got a Tisas 1911 GI for like $330 and I love it for what it is. Fit and function is excellent for the price, and my Garand got its buddy for super cheap!

@rafaelpaun1907 Ай бұрын

I have 2 Tisas 1911s, never had a problem with either of them. One of them is the double stack 2011 and it shoots amazing.

@dougsmith2658 Ай бұрын

Run it hard or much at all ? .doubt it

@rafaelpaun1907 Ай бұрын

@@dougsmith2658 thousands of rounds dude.

@yettidude 2 күн бұрын

Years ago I had a Tristan t120 made by canik and it was awesome. Defiantly sold me on the caniks

@stevelambert8854 Ай бұрын

Glad to see the SAR9 getting some exposure. I have the standard with 4.4" barrel, and the Sport with a 5.2" barrel. These have been totally reliable. I own a Glock 17gen4, Sig 320 Xtac, H&K VP9, Canik TP9, Walther PDP and a few others and yet I don't ever hesitate to take the SAR9 out. Trigger is not up there with the PDP, but neither is the Glock 17's trigger.

@matthewcochran3325 25 күн бұрын

I love Turkish pistols. I have a Canik TP9sfx and a Tisas Zigana KC and they are probably the best shooters I have.

@mrtlsimon Ай бұрын

The TISAS PX9 would've been a better number 5.

@avguidotti Ай бұрын

I have an older Tristar C100, which is a near clone of the CZ75 Compact. I absolutely love that pistol.

@stephentthomas Ай бұрын

I have the base model Sar9. Fantastic firearm! It looks like a Glock 17 and an HK VP9 had a budget baby. Got mine for $270.

@Philosopher-TR Ай бұрын

I live in Turkey and I can't get a gun because of the damn European council laws

@MrTacklebury Ай бұрын

I have a terrific Tri-Star Over-under shotgun. I really like it and have never had any issues with it. I like the side by side also, that they produce and it's one of the better side-by-side shotguns available at working man prices. I have a PX-9 that I love, although it isn't the one you guys reviewed, it's the full size and I can stack them into an inch if I try, so I love those. I have only had one semi-auto, but it was very good also, although I don't do 500 round melt-down reviews. It fired all the 3" mag's, buckshot, slugs and even bird shot that I had without a hitch. I actually gave it to my son-in-law so he would have a good house defense gun.

@rickyst3am6oat94 Ай бұрын

6:45-6:48 thank you 🙏

@markwatson7652 Ай бұрын

I love my new Girsan MC114 BDA .380, a Browning/Beretta BDA clone, and I loved my Tisas Fatih .380 Cheetah clone, which I should never have sold.

@carlrobinson8177 Ай бұрын

I have 2 Turkish Bullpup Shotguns Garaysar Fear 109 and the Fear 105. Awesome 12 gauge shotgun’s I FKn love em.

@stevenhess5528 Ай бұрын

I own both the canik and the sar. Shooting, both are really good. Ergonomics, the sad hands down. The sad just fits me right.

@anthonys6385 Ай бұрын

Mac 9 DS is pretty good. 400 rds so far not a single malfunction. Trigger and mag spring need work though.

@A_potato9772 Ай бұрын

I REALLY want the highpower with the tangent sight and hopefully a repro holster stock to hit the market. The 500 yard adjustment is so delightfully optimistic on a 9mm handgun.