Try putting the turret somewhere the enemy can't destroy it pre-fight, but will have to address once they hard engage, meaning they can't just safely poke it out and it turns into a 6v5 almost, making it harder to focus the backline as samito pointed out. The best way is practice, you don't need to be perfect every time. If you think a spot might work then throw the turret down, don't overthink it, if it works great if it doesn't try again. This way you develop your game sense as well instead of just memorising spots from a video, hope this helps : )

yes please!! i’m grinding echo and could use an updated guide for sure

wouldn't mind that since i find her harder to play in s9

Same, Echo is my most played DPS but I think it’d be great to get some new tips from Samito!

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why u need an updated version tho she barely changed i get the meta around her n the team composition has changed but core mechanic n even tactics haven't changed that much

Well he says if your backline needs help, torb is good. If you're in the need of help, maybe more self sufficient picks like Sombra/tracer or soldier could be good to learn. 1 hero shouldn't do it all

Torb is good, but he's only really good as a counter pick or on maps/points that favor him. I don't think he's a great main.

at that point if you want to one trick even when torb isnt good, probably have to change your playstyle. look for torb one tricks unranked to gm (preferbly someone with avarage aim) and really see the way he adapts when he is getting countered, thats what i did for hanzo and adapting for pharah/ team playing dive cause im also a filthy one trick.

i look for unranked to gm and when is in diamond/master/grandmaster i would pause the video during crucial times like when they are setting up and the fights changes and think for like a few seconds what i would do and what angle i would take and then unpause to see what they do, it help me understand hwo i could play better

​@@hamedyassin8329golden advice. It helps show not only where you went wrong but what the right move is and actually makes you think. Its almost better than self vod reviews imo.

I can't help it if I bust the load instantly when the enemy team is just so pretty

It actually does, I think they updated it when they made bob shoot ashes target

It does. It was added in awhile back

Never even considered that mechanic would be a thing, that is really cool

Hence why he puts it back of point as he explained so they have to commit to the fight before theyd be able to deal with it. But you’re probably way higher rated than Samito right?…so you clearly know best😂 Also If the supports are supposedly building ult charge “infinitely” then torb is as well… and no one smart would continuously feed a torbjorns ult

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I was wondering that! But I think space is more important than killing faster maybe

What???? Must be new to game. First couple months of the game i had the basics of how to play every character at least enough to be able to understand what enimies intentions are for each hero