Thanks for your input I'll get the 23 horse now. I've been shopping

Hell yeah!! Love hearing that! 👊🏼

It’s a great mower!

I run Toro's because of the quality of cut, and that's it. Either you're going to bust your knees or your back, take your pick, but I'm not sacrificing the cut I get from Toro. Tearing turf is how you make your turns and if you do a zero turn, turn, then you're going to tear turf regardless. Only problem I have is transport, the Grand stand has to be bungeed or ratchet strapped down or it'll move all over the place.

@@elitelawns9437 I agree to a point. The Ferris I have will slide no matter how you turn unless you really slow down before even beginning the y turn. The toros can do that turn at almost full speed of your careful. What years are your grandstands? I have a 16 and a 19 . The 16 will move on the trailer but the 19 is pretty good about staying. I secure them regardless these days as I'm now in the mountains but back in Florida they only got the strap on the way to the first properties she the way back to the shop

@@Hillsidelanscapemanagement 2011. Only maybe 700 hours. I don't have a full week mow schedule, and I change the oil and put Lucas products in it. I only have 1 and run a 52" ...whatever the name of that Toro is... Groundmaster? It's a 2011, too. I don't know what the Japanese know about engines, but if I could put a Kawasaki in my truck... I had an old self propelled Honda that I let the oil almost run dry one time, and it still kept ticking. We just got Ferris around here and I heard about them back home, but I don't know that I trust a suspension system on a mower. How's that work out with the cut?

@@elitelawns9437 I think Toro upgraded the parking brake on the grandstands since 2011 so that may be why I don't have much of a problem with them rolling on the trailer. I've never had anything with a Honda engine but I've heard nothing but good things about their small engines. The Ferris definitely doesn't cut as well as the Toros but I think that's more about deck design than the suspension system

toro has best cut quality ? is there anything else better or toro is it

Love that tip. Thanks!

Yes they are I also have the first run of the Craftsman turn tight t260 built like a little tank love the 5" turning ability best $3,000 I spent I have herd the newer versions 2022 to present have been downgraded from the original first run 2019 to 2021

@joey-zr8lt indeed I have the 2021 T240 Kohler 7000 series Engine 22 horsepower 725cc V Twin 3 year unlimited hours warranty and it's designed after the Kohler command commercial Pro Engine so basically your getting a commercial engine on a residential mower there heavy also the dry weight on mine with out the deck and 3.1 gallon fuel tank is 630 pounds straight frame mine has the 46" deck yours is the 48" I looked at John deere Husqvarna simplicity none matched up to the craftsman T240 turn tight series Tractor paid $3,470 with tax best investment I made..I do like this fellas Toro Toro is also a awesome mower

how do you like it. i am getting a demo to try. is cut quality good? folks above say they like toro better?!?!?

Thank you, I’ve never had an issue with any of them actually. With that said personally I do prefer Kawasaki mainly because I’m more familiar with the parts and so is my dealer but like I said, I’ve not had any issues with either.

I honestly haven’t had any issues with my Ferris. I would get extra belts I never replaced mine yet, but having so many grandstands over the years that is good to have on hand. The air filter would be good too.

@@LawnThumbs thanks a bunch for your assistance. Excited to get it over the weekend and put it to work.

No mine don’t but I never had a grandstand before 2014 I believe. What size deck is that. Just curious if it’s 48” or bigger.

@Lawn Thumbs 36" . I bought to get into back yards. And it's really handy on really small turf areas on islands and such at commercial properties. Looks like yours doesn't have it, but honestly, they probably made the hydros smoother and did away with it. It's just a stick that has a 1 to 8 rating. 8 is wide open. I rarely use the feature as I go in "haul balls" mode anyways lol. They aren't fast to begin with, and one thing I will say is that the tradeoff for reverse speed is not good. Either you speed up the forward and go turtle slow backward, or go kinda slow forward and decent reverse. I am mulch mowing everything and only mow properties that the customer wants me to treat and fertilize as well. I don't mow weeds. So even on thick Bermuda or Zoysia, those units can handle higher speeds of cut, even with mulching decks. My buddy got me into those curved blades and not the ninja ones like I assumed were the best. No lines left afterwards and easier to sharpen. Also mulching is basically no chance of throwing rocks. I've had one person in 10 years stop and say a rock flew out and hit their windshield. Even then they never followed up with me wanting to get an their info and proceed through. (Oddly was a really nice Escalade) 😆

No, I found an out of work super master welder and showed him what I wanted and he built it. Then I over paid him and had him make me more.

5,300 Sq Ft

My gut is saying the Ferris, just because I don’t remember having to change that one yet? But I don’t usually fix those mowers my shop guy does so I could be wrong.

No issues other than last week the bearings on one of the front wheel assembly for the Ferris came apart and it’s taken about 2 weeks to get the part needed. It could be a mis communication with the parts place but that’s been my only issue this far.

@@LawnThumbs I'm shocked bearings came apart on that Ferris. Always thought they had upper grade bearings. Well if that's it, not bad then.

I’ll measure it tomorrow. And I do love the gas tanks but I’m doing something new. I’ll show it soon.

So it’s really hard to measure this but I feel like 36” is the measurement measuring from tire to tire in the outside. I think that’s wider than the deck

@@LawnThumbs thanks freddy. I have 40" to work with.....so it sounds like a 36 z1 stander would work for me as long as I take the chute off and use a mulch kit. your timing couldnt be better....i was just home for lunch and checking youtube....LOL.

@@LawnThumbshey Freddy, how wide is the deck without the chute blocker? The website says 42 with the chute blocker up but I think it’s closer to the 36?