Touge Showdon GR Supra 6MT vs. 8AT【Hot-Version】2022

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Жыл бұрын

Touge Showdon GR Supra 6MT vs. 8AT【Hot-Version】2022
[ENTRY CAR]
TOYOTA GR SUPRA (A91) 6MT
TOYOTA GR SUPRA (A91) 8AT
[DRIVER]
DK Keiichi Tsuchiya
MAX Manabu Orido
NOB Nobuteru Taniguchi
MASA Masahiro Sasaki
[STAGE]
GUNMA CYCLE SPORT CENTER (Gunsai)

Пікірлер: 456

@user-wy7jz1yg9b Жыл бұрын

レスポンスで行くとATに敵わないところもあるかもしれないけれど、やっぱりMTは楽しそう！土屋さんの言う「世界中にいるんだよ、無駄を楽しむ人が」って言葉、本当にその通り。

@tloh141 Жыл бұрын

the fact that hot version is still going gives me still hope for this world.

@user-lh7fs5ow9k Жыл бұрын

メーカーの人々から峠バトルのコメント聞けるの、新鮮です

@DontCare1990 Жыл бұрын

Always good to see keiichi tsuchiya still going strong

@nightdeer_sprinter_trueno_ae86 Жыл бұрын

ここ数年で自動車チャンネルも凄く増えましたが、ホットバージョンが１番しっくり来ます！観やすいし面白い！

@user-zn3vd9bb6e Жыл бұрын

@@Daisukiy 車メインじゃなくてあれ人メインだよね

@mazdaspeed118 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the subtitles 👏🇮🇳

@kitaru298 Жыл бұрын

マニュアルの次は手引きサイドブレーキか初期型からモデルチェンジでどんどんアナログになっていくのも逆に面白いね笑笑

@user-ci6tw5hw8y Жыл бұрын

快適性で言えば圧倒的AT、ただMTにしか味わえない楽しさが俺は好きだ

@test58818 11 ай бұрын

このZF製のトルコン、BMWオーナーだったらわかるだろうけど変速はトルコンの中では優秀な部類だし、何よりシフトショックの無さが凄い。街乗りでシフトショック一切ない。

@user-gl7te7jm1q Жыл бұрын

色んな自動車系の動画が乱立しているけど、やはりドリキン・NOB・オリダーの3人のインプレッションが一番具体的かつ高い次元でクルマの良い点・悪い点を、クルマの専門家や今実際に走らせてる人以外にも的確に伝えてくれているように思います。速く走らせることもだけど、フィードバック能力というのもプロドライバーには非常に重要なんだな、と再認識できる動画。

@JohnTallodi 10 ай бұрын

Manual gives the joy of futility. Best line ever.

@nisshiblack2012 Жыл бұрын

手引きサイドブレーキが今後付くようにお願いします!!

@user-sj3hy3nr1j 8 ай бұрын

車好きが乗りたい車を造ってくれたのが、とても意義がありますね。

@elianpz 8 ай бұрын

Coming straight from the mouths of the best drivers. Telling Toyota "You did a good job, but you can do better, here are some suggestions.." Super cool!

@jinma8681 Жыл бұрын

一昔前だとスポーツカーでＡＴはバカにされたけど企業努力凄いわ！

@MrMarshy123456 Жыл бұрын

Nobody does it like the Japanese addicting from start to finish every hot version battle is epic love it also many thanks for the english subtitles !

@goracks69 Жыл бұрын

How tf does Keiichi still look 50!? He’s looked 50 since he was 40, and almost 30 years later, HE STILL LOOKS 50!!!

@carlovergts02 Жыл бұрын

Asians are built different, also, DK is a fairly active man, even though he’s retired, he still keeps in shape doing all that driving.

@Blballerboy Жыл бұрын

It’s the smell of rubber and gasoline, preserves the soul.

@vladvasiloni1577 Жыл бұрын

he is a true athlete and has a healty lifestyle

@xFlared Жыл бұрын

Keichi was born looking like 50 and will die looking like 50.

@happyguy4525 Жыл бұрын

Masturbation and/or sex

@napalmman8292 Жыл бұрын

It’s good that some car manufacturers still producing cars with manual transmission, might not be efficient like AT but manual is sure as hell fun to drive.

@tofuyabunta2233 Жыл бұрын

ドリキン「世界中にこの “無駄” を楽しみたい人がいる！」こりゃ名言ですな！！たしかに速さと効率を考えたら2ペダルが良いだろうけど、3ペダルになることで広がる世界がある。実際、MY2023の「RZ」はMT車のほうが売れてるそうです。

@hittermad9429 Жыл бұрын

むしろ4気筒の方にMT欲しいかな

@user-tv1dp5sq8q Жыл бұрын

気持ちいいだろね

@user-eu1ob7to2q 11 ай бұрын

86が売れなくなるのでは？

@dwpjg 11 ай бұрын

@@user-eu1ob7to2q100万円以上差があるのに、そんなわけない。

@Unknown-zt5qd 9 ай бұрын

@@user-eu1ob7to2q客層は違うと思う

@strangebirdwatcher Жыл бұрын

Awesome video and thank you for the subtitles 🇺🇸

@ramensospicy2992 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the English subtitles! 🥰

@DoubleOSevan Жыл бұрын

Super thankful for the English subtitles! Arigato gozaimasu! 🙇‍♂

@AnserOne Жыл бұрын

Thank you for another amazing video! (And also for English captions)

@andrestrd Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the english subtitle

@Domi39 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for english subtitles!

@user-hk7gg3xe5t 3 ай бұрын

50代ですが死ぬまでにオーナーになるのが夢です

@TK-qz6gs Жыл бұрын

濡れてるっていってるのに28秒前後とかネジ飛んでるよなぁ

@macnchillidogs1601 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the subtitles!!

@Cichlid_Visuals Жыл бұрын

even if the manual was 5 seconds slower i would still choose it without a second to waste.

@FreshYoungDude Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to English subtitles! Love the videos. Thank you!

@Chavez96PR Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the English subtitles!

@mingomix1 Жыл бұрын

good way to start a friday! thank you so much!!

@user-lk1kp2zz9q Жыл бұрын

凄く楽しい企画をありがとうございますっ！！

@11metalfan Жыл бұрын

Thank you for captions!

@astry6473 Жыл бұрын

土屋のコメでMTとATでサスセッティングがで大きな違いがあるわけないじゃんと思ったがノブのコメでそもそもATの方は改良前っていうオチなのはズゴーって感じ

@rzero21 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Best MOTORing official for the subtitles!

@andreasroussos25 Жыл бұрын

English Subtitles thank you !!!❤️❤️💙💙

@carlosdossantos1251 Жыл бұрын

11:47 true manual transmission car people will understand this part

@xxCablexx Жыл бұрын

definitely agree, if you have a MT it'd be a lot better with a hand brake just like the new Nissan Z

@newbiedebater Жыл бұрын

Great comparision!

@pumarolz Жыл бұрын

I love this channel so much, the inspiration I get from everyone in this channel is astonishing.

@junceiro Жыл бұрын

I drove both of them, and absolutely loved the manual one, much more raw and easy to play with... In terms of pure performance you lose a bit on a straight line - you always have to take the 'effort' to shift - but it seems faster and gives you such a control feeling. Fortunately, it seems these three fine gentlemen agree with me... eheheh!

@beastlysun Жыл бұрын

For drifting and fun at circuits its good to have MT. However 99% of MT Supras will spend most of the "raw, look i can handle manual" life on highway in 6th speed followed by 1>2>N shifts in city

@hamstersizedasian Жыл бұрын

@@beastlysun to be fair, most cars even with AT will spend 90% of their time on commuting anyways (with the exception of garage queens).

@hsato1918 Жыл бұрын

これでサイドブレーキが付けば完璧👍

@elteridge Жыл бұрын

ちょっと谷口さんだけタイム速すぎない？笑

@twinturbocars Жыл бұрын

I feel like one thing no one is mentioning in the comments is how much a suspension changes the character of the car

@user-dw9yo3db3y Жыл бұрын

峠バトルGRスープラ6速MT VS 8速AT超いい企画ですね、❤😊

@McGrezzive Жыл бұрын

Loved the battle, and Orido feeling on Manual Supra!

@gepokomaru Жыл бұрын

I hope under their new CEO, Toyota keep on developing great cars for the driving enthusiasts!

@highrpm1 Жыл бұрын

*Thank you for the video*

@user-qn7nf4ii1t Жыл бұрын

土屋さんの言う無駄を楽しむってその通りだと思う。ATが完璧になり過ぎて、MTに乗りたくなる。でも街乗りオンリーに近くなった今はATで電子サイドを重宝してる。

@tomas_YZF-R3 Жыл бұрын

これ、何気に気になってました。良い企画

@hoyfreedom 10 ай бұрын

seeing new gen supra with manual makes me happy ugghh the proper wayy

@eiros59 Жыл бұрын

I love this video, it’s beautiful.

@nomaschalupas2453 Жыл бұрын

the supra was always a smooth power, comfortable ride for touring.

@raysegura6669 Жыл бұрын

Amazing drivers, great cars

@Guirrmo Жыл бұрын

Love this video as it explored pushing the cars harder. During the circuit. Was that a screen that showed tire temperatures ?

@Nikowalker007 Жыл бұрын

Supra Auto vs Manual battle👍🙏👌🔥❤️‍🔥 I was waiting for this episode for so long ! 🎉🎉🎉👍

@user-en8to6dk5x Жыл бұрын

オリダーが乗ると、コメントまでしっとりするなぁ…

@possiblybooger Жыл бұрын

Taniguchi looks just like how I remembered seeming him 20 years ago. Holy hell man!

@miljanivanko2312 Жыл бұрын

My favourite show on KZfaq..Best ever! Gunsai.....

@user-nt1so6tu1i Жыл бұрын

スープラもまた一段と上がりましたね☺️ やっぱ結構スープラも速くてめっちゃ超格好いい車だなって思いました☺️

@chrisjames7447 Жыл бұрын

i love this youtube channel. i love your videos. keep making more youtube videos on amazing cars!!! do not stop!!!!!

@Shuten_Wukong Жыл бұрын

Automatics will always be potentially faster, but banging gear shifts just makes any car more fun.

@sabesansarmeegan4185 6 ай бұрын

I really look forward to drive one !

@axlmf7495 Жыл бұрын

素晴らしい！

@_J4CK4L_ Жыл бұрын

Yes please GRMN SUPRA! I have a 2023 Manual and would love to upgrade

@efurination_ Жыл бұрын

GRMNスープラに期待大です。採算やBMWとのアライアンス的に厳しいと思いますが、2025年以降もガソリン車販売可能期間の最後までスープラを売り続けてほしい……と、心から思います。

@user-ym2cq1kc6j Жыл бұрын

純粋なAT/MTの違いによるタイム差って言うより年次改良の足の味付けの差の方が大きくてあんまり企画通りの結果になってない気がする。比較するならちゃんと年式揃えないと… まとめで佐々木選手が言ってくれてるけど

@SupraSav 8 ай бұрын

It is so hard to buy a supra new, everyone wants one. Let this be a lesson to all automakers ; we don't want sports cars, we want good sports cars. Sports cars that are made with passion, with performance and function in mind and a MANUAL transmission.

@bigbird2523 Жыл бұрын

Scary road surface, respect

@2w0nGranTurismo Жыл бұрын

niceee. even though the 8AT is faster i would much rather prefer the 6MT A91

@SkullsAndSnaps Жыл бұрын

Amazing battle!! Would love to see a GRMN supra. I’ve driven an A90 and A91, the handling was SO much better in the 91, VERY impressed. Would love to try a manual!! But would love to see Toyota do a GRMN Supra. ❤

@lukeburkett5645 Жыл бұрын

This show is amazing! I can't believe I'm only now hearing about it

@bbbbojangles2737 Жыл бұрын

Oh man.... you are missing out on 30 years of motoring. Its all so good!

@vibe_pioneer1306 Жыл бұрын

Do a review on Nissan 400z next 👏🏾 thank you.

@user-jo4mg9ou3k Жыл бұрын

益々TOYOTAさんの変態度が増してワクワクしますね。

@shinojima Жыл бұрын

楽しく走れる車がより多く広がっていってもらいたいです。自分も買えたら乗ってみたいです。

@FFFRMR4WD Жыл бұрын

マニュアル車を駐車してギアをニュートラルにしてからサイドブレーキをｷﾞｷﾞｨって引いて「ふぅ…」と一息付く瞬間がイイんですヨ… ボタンパチッはちょっとね…サイドブレーキ引いた感が欲しい。

@oi.naniyattendayo Жыл бұрын

そのやり方ってなぜ教習所では説明されないんですかね。信号待ちでずっとクラッチ踏んでるの辛い

@zakuro9600 Жыл бұрын

@@oi.naniyattendayo ニュートラルに戻すのは大丈夫なはずですよ

@FFFRMR4WD Жыл бұрын

@@oi.naniyattendayo クラッチペダルを踏む時間はなるべく短くした方がクラッチが長持ちしますので、信号待ちではニュートラルにしてクラッチペダルを離して待つのが良いでしょう。ただ、歩行者用の信号を見るなどして、自動車用の信号が青になる前に発進準備を整える様にする必要はありますが…

@alanchantiefighterskuanlia627 Жыл бұрын

I use handbrake to save from overspeed corner. With clutch kick and brake off 1 second to gain front tyre grip safely avoid crashing to tree 😂

@kou55555 Жыл бұрын

良いセリフだな、無駄を楽しむかやっぱり俺、土屋さん好きだわ MT対ATをするとどちらが速いばかりが議論に出るけど俺は1番納得できる言葉だ

@carwash-ryutamaria Жыл бұрын

MT vs AT待ってました！

@3colorgelato Жыл бұрын

昔から考えたら8速ATってすごいよな。

@C-M-E Жыл бұрын

Pretty amazing that there's only 10kg/22lbs difference in transmission weights. Not all that long ago when manuals were more prevalent, that difference could be multiple seconds on a lap/50-100lbs advantage for a manual.

@ARCNA442 Жыл бұрын

Especially since the auto has two additional gears.

@orB11W Жыл бұрын

やっぱずっとMTでやってきた人達だからMTの方が速いのかな？って思ったら足違うんかい！

@user-of7he4no6g Жыл бұрын

足の味付けも違えばホイール1本あたり1.2kgの軽量がなされておりますので一概にMTが早いとは言いきれないですよね……

@alanchantiefighterskuanlia627 Жыл бұрын

MT is faster in the corners because more control cure understeer. Auto cant cure understeer and worse no handbrake to save u.

@user-cx7jt3mk9u Жыл бұрын

オリダーも言っていたがMTは繋いだ瞬間ドン❗️とダイレクトに前に出る。トルコンのオートマは変速スピードは速いが繋がる瞬間に一瞬滑る。ここでロスしてるようだな🤔

@tk7852 Жыл бұрын

相変わらず谷口さんのスタイルはオーバレブ

@wezkerlim 8 ай бұрын

not just hand brake lever, we need a dipstick too. eliminate that stupid sensor & sop of starting the engine just to check engine oil lever & condition. dipstick is the safest as we can check the oil lever & condition without having the start the motor. what if the oil isn't good or sufficient for the engine to run but you just have to start it to check it. it's dumb move by bmw. even bmw racing team has a delete kit & install a dipstick instead on 1 of their track engines.

@user-hr1ih5fi9u Жыл бұрын

フェアレディZはサイドついてるもんねサイド欲しいよなあ。。。

@austin2Kool 7 ай бұрын

Wished they would go ahead and compare both new models instead of a new vs old model

@1218kana Жыл бұрын

スープラが欲しくなりました。

@user-cs9fl4el7l Жыл бұрын

もっと動画出してほしーーー

@Magic_Vince Жыл бұрын

Supra GRMN with S58 please!!

@kenkozawa9810 Жыл бұрын

I really wanted a MT Supra even if no backseats, no handbrake and not being a true toyota product...ended up ordering a gr corolla 😅

@chrisginoc Жыл бұрын

I got an A91 6MT. Wanted my garage queen to only have 2 seats and since it was impossible to find a Morizo Corolla I gave up my search

@davothegreat9990 Жыл бұрын

Gr Corolla is alot slower though!!

@tturi2 Жыл бұрын

GR corolla is a good choice still, very much like a celica gt4 or evo 7

@sadTimeSwordNoises Жыл бұрын

THATS MY CAR BBB a91 MT. with DK askin for the hand brake maybe we see conversions in next set!?

@freezedTIM Жыл бұрын

same with Nobu and Orido! please listen Toyota

@shibaspeed Жыл бұрын

Make a GRMN Supra for the USA as well please

@user-hima_ed Жыл бұрын

マニュアルいいね

@II-py2od 10 ай бұрын

MTの運転はさすがと言うしか無い程うまいなぁ。確かにここまでうまいMTと張れるぐらいまで進化したATも凄いがやはり乗るならMTかな。 ATは最初こそ性能の高さを確かめられはするけどすぐ飽きちゃいそう。特に普段乗りも合わせると

@e_skie2685 Жыл бұрын

Well done gentlemen.

@user-ss9se8vk6r 7 ай бұрын

どっちも良い！スープラがかっこいいからそれでよし！

@blackciman4222 Жыл бұрын

この型のスープラ前期ならばサイド復活の光あり良い意味で肉増しのトヨタだから前期と後期で化けるのがあるから（ベスモで学んだIS-F.MR2）

@Quebster Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the amazing video! I don’t understand the electronic parking brake fad. Seems a mechanical lever would be so much simpler and is what everyone wants, especially with a manual.

@ARCNA442 Жыл бұрын

Electronic brakes have a ton of advantages. You're replacing a set of cables and pulleys that have to be routed through the car and are exposed to the elements with a small electric motor. The result is simpler to install, takes up less space, and requires less maintenance. It's also safer since the average driver never uses their parking brake, but an electronic brake can be programmed to engage automatically.

@dwhat598 Жыл бұрын

@@ARCNA442 haha dumb

@danielcamacho1913 Жыл бұрын

@@ARCNA442 In other words, the electric parking brake is for the manufacturer's benefit, not the driver, unless the driver is so obtuse as to need an automated nanny brake. And now, instead of cables exposed to the elements (which I've never experienced or heard of a problem with that) now you've got that small electric motor exposed, don't you?

@Seramics 10 ай бұрын

@@danielcamacho1913while you have your point. You gotta adjust the driver word, its for the benefits of the driver, but not sports driver. How often will a user of MT Supra, drift and use the parking brake in the process. Thats only a very tiny subset of the users who buy Supra for sporting reasons, which is already itself a tiny population.