G'day folks! a brief discussion on swapping from Mickey Thompson's Baja boss AT to Toyo Open Country MT.
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@JohnWilliams-qf2cm6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your honest comments mate. I am an old bloke with a 2018 Hilux, still on road tyres. Your tyres get a true workout, everyday, not on weekends. And you are not sponsored. But if you were I reckon you would still give an honest opinion. Love watching your videos, will go a long way to helping me decide on new tyres. One of the best sites on KZfaq I reckon, keep up the good work. All the best mate from Melbourne.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Good old hilux mate that's the go! Thankyou, that's high praise and I really appreciate you watching and getting something worthwhile from the vids. I will always be as honest as I can, it's just the way it goes I reckon. Thanks again mate. 👍
@JohnWilliams-qf2cm6 ай бұрын
Me again mate, fitted a heavy duty rear diff actuator plate guard, same brand as you fitted when you had the Hilux.Wanted to say thanks for showing that, very helpful. Thanks again.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Hey no worries mate, they are one of the most important upgrades as far as I'm concerned with the dramas I've had in the past.
@markslowen14116 ай бұрын
Great work - Tyres on your application are literally a huge consideration to make - great channel - I’m about to buy a number of these new model 70 series for an extremely demanding application in Liberia West Africa so I have been watching your show from the get go with great interest - keep em coming .👍
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Wow mate that is bloody awesome, thanks for watching I'm glad your getting something out of the channel. Tyres are definitely a huge consideration. I'd be interested to know more about that project, the vehicles will be working hard I imagine?
@tropicsalt.6 ай бұрын
Great picture quality. Thanks for the vid. I've had BFG KM's for over 10 years and think that they are a great all-rounder even though they are for mud. People that say they are dangerous in the wet probably drive their 4WD like it's a car around roundabouts.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
No worries mate, thankyou for watching. That's a long run with BFG. I do want to try them one day.
@interceptor79056 ай бұрын
I had Toyo Open Country on Ford Territory,the best tyres I ever had!
@fatmanoverlanding6 ай бұрын
So unlucky to have two flats w/in a short amount of time, and on practically new tyres too. That's gotta hurt the wallet. But tyres are critically important. Specially for you, with the type of work you do, having the correct quality tyres is as important as having a very reliable and capable vehicle. I like your pragmatic approach to these things - utterly level headed. Onya mate. 👍
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Yeah mate pretty unlucky, I did two with the Mickey's and one sidewall with the Toyo's already which I mentioned in my latest vid. It never ends mate! All I really need and care about is reliability and I don't like to muck around with shitty equipment. And yes lots of money on tyres lately, ridiculous. I'll sell the Mickey's I had on the front.
@MattysWorkshop6 ай бұрын
Gday, it’s going to be interesting with how they hold up, hopefully good, cheers
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Yeah for sure mate, I've got a lot of faith in them! They did bloody well on my previous cruiser. We will see.
@sassall42846 ай бұрын
Damn. I was looking at getting those mickeys. Might stay with my Yokohamas then. They have been flawless for me
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Yeah look some people love them, and you could get them and be absolutely fine, who knows. I just ended up with a less then ideal experience I think yokohamas are great mate.
@BundyBearsShed6 ай бұрын
I have had 3 vehicles with full sets of Toyo all terrains and now I have them on my 79 series, so I reckon they are a good thing. Not one puncture but Im only in rough country now and then. I run 33s and empty get around 13.89 and loaded mid 14s .
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
That's the go mate, I'm actually getting the right rear Toyo replaced today, two sidewall punctures on the same tyre... not bad economy. I'm getting around 600km from 100ltr.
@buzz99726 ай бұрын
I found the side biters on the MT Baja AT’s have torn away from the sidewalls when in heavy rocks. They are good for other terrain but not rocks/boulders. I’m going back to tyres with a little less aggressive side biters.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Very good to know mate, thanks what will you go with?
@shalininaicker6 ай бұрын
I've had a pretty good run so far from a set of Hankook Dynapro RT05s 265/70r17s on my 2019 Hilux.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
That's the go mate. 👌
@robertgeddes5116 ай бұрын
I would be interested in seeing a bit more on your day to day jobs on the station. What machinery do you operate etc.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Station tour vid coming up soon mate!
@4bnewb9696 ай бұрын
Nitto is owned by Toyo. Not sure if their tyres come from the same factory or share construction methods. I ran 2 sets of Ko2’s on my previous vehicle (Hilux) and had no issues with them, albeit my vehicle use is nowhere as harsh as your environment. Yes, they were ‘skatee in the wet when worn, but they were reliable. Enjoy your channel. Cheers
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Yeah mate that's it, that's interesting good to know I've heard good things about BFG and they are are a global giant involved in racing and all sorts. I'll try them one day. Thankyou 👌
@paulboon11004 ай бұрын
Tyres are one of those things. I had BFG's ko2 on my hundred series no flats or anything but in mud they stink! -My upinion! Had a delamination problem with BFG'S well. Anyway for my bike i ones bought an Avon rear tyre, the thing was NOT round, so another one under warranty, well to make a long annoying, to me, story short, i went through 8 yes 8 tyres all with the same problem, it ended up being a "batch" problem the last one was of a different batch and was good. Just saying maybe you had a similar problem? I now run "Comforcers" MT 285 75sx16, 10PR, cheap but have run them before in the outback quite a bit, with no problems.
@OutbackOffroadNT4 ай бұрын
Haha what a bloody muck around mate! Yeah part of the issue for me was running the stock GXL rims which are a little to narrow for my size tyres. They are 7 inch wide, I've since gone to 8.
@kisbushcraftdownunder6 ай бұрын
I have had a lot of good results out bush with the old Dunlop road grippers still a factory option from Toyota not sexy but tough.
@ianparsons88946 ай бұрын
In 225/95R16?
@kisbushcraftdownunder6 ай бұрын
@@ianparsons8894 I think 🤔 so they come on the workmate not the best road manners but in hard terrain they seem to be tough
@ianparsons88946 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s 225/95R16 then. Same diameter as 285/75R16 but much narrower which would also help a bit with less punctures (less width to worry about)
@dustyfarmer6 ай бұрын
Even better were the old Dunlop Super Gripper's in 7.50R16 8 PR if you like riding on pizza cutters. Fats are where its at with me now.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Yeah mate, you see them on a lot of standard rigs getting around.
@0684474 ай бұрын
I’ve chipped and damaged my at baha boss just testing suspension on ruff corrugated roads for like 10 mins . 20-30 thousand klm towing the caravan and doing exploring will sort them out I guess 😂
@OutbackOffroadNT4 ай бұрын
Yeah that will be a good run for them mate, especially if you are hitting the dirt.
@ianparsons88946 ай бұрын
Was there any warranty with the Mickey Ts? Also the Maxxis Razr MT might be another good option with the mining spec variant having further reinforced sidewalls.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
That's a negative mate unfortunately, yeah for sure I have looked at them and may try them one day. Interestingly, the fella at my local Tyreright reckons Yokohama have warranted punctures for their g003 MT... Thanks 🍻
@OutbackOutlaw6 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s what I’m looking at.
@OutbackOutlaw6 ай бұрын
Your rig is looking shweeet. The tougher sidewalls is safer. What’s your view on the Maxxis MTs?
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Thankyou mate, I have not run the Maxxis MT, so I have no first hand experience. However I hear really good things about them, and ronny dahl swears by them, he is sponsored by them now, but he was running them and liked them before the sponsorship. Maxxis in general are supposed to be solid tyres. Cheers
@OutbackOutlaw6 ай бұрын
@@OutbackOffroadNT yeah I know RD was running them. All good. I’ve had some ATs before and they were good. Just thinking bout going to the MTs on my 200. Keep posting mate, good channel.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
No worries mate, the big 200! Nice mate. Thanks much appreciated. 🙏
@craigwoodward45666 ай бұрын
Got 108,000 out of first Toyo MT’s Zero issues including fair bit of off road. I won’t use anything else on my 80. Best Tyre you can buy
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Holy shit, really? Well Ronny Dahl's mate Torbs got about the same apparently. That's incredible for an MT, Toyo don't muck around aye.
@szejim17576 ай бұрын
I am in cairns shop recommend me maxxis rather than Toyo. But I want AT tyre for my hilux, now I am back to research what tyre for my 79, interest about the extra fuel consumption with 33,
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Cool mate, yeah heavier tyre, more rolling resistance. Aggressive tread pattern etc. More fuel unfortunately.
@peterarnold11736 ай бұрын
Hey mate how's it going. I've run the toyo open country for about 4 sets now and average around 70 to 80k out of them. Rotate every 10k great tyre good for putting a load on. Bit of a shortage of them at the moment I've paid anything from $270 to $350 a tyre , that's in Townsville and Cairns. I've used bfg muddy and had a fail with them. Stay with toyo mate they are great. I'll check the price here for you next time out of here. Get them a lot cheaper. Rito keep going 👍.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
I'm good thanks mate, hope your well. That's good feedback and I really do like these Toyo's, my old man likes the Toyo all terrains. He used to run them on his hilux. Appreciate that mate the bloody prices here are insane haha.
@peterarnold11736 ай бұрын
That's great, i run a 2018 79 single cab and do a lot of station work out to Mt Isa and up through the gulf. And the muddy comes into their own, especially when it's pissing down . And compared to others, they aren't that noisy. Unfortunately, they do burn more fuel . I have run the mickey thomson as well, and don't rate them . Get more, k out of the toyo.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
That's very interesting, lots of people telling me about tyres drive around in town and don't understand what it's like out in the scrub. Great to have another perspective from someone using there gear out bush. How do you like your LandCruiser?
@peterarnold11736 ай бұрын
. it great . I've put 200k on the clock gets serviced every 5k from new. Just tuned it and amazing the difference. if I got 250km to quarter a tank was pretty good , but first drive out of town I looked down at the same stage and had 320km . I only wanted bit better fuel economy and when I over take bet more power, no need to drop Back to fourth, leave it in 5th, and just pulls. The bloke who tuned it does work for a company that has probably 6 or 7 stations, and he did a manifold clean first, then tune . It's well priced as well.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Yeah that's the go mate, 5000km service intervals really are what's needed for vehicles that work offroad. I'm toying with the idea of a tune. Always worry about reliability and like to leave things as stock as possible though, I really need it to be done properly. And not looking for crazy power.
@davideddy23216 ай бұрын
Please don’t laugh we’ve had an amazing run from KENDA MT. 10/10
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
HAHA....... just joking mate, nothing wrong with that at all! I like the Kenda Kleva, I've had a fella tell me they are good in the bush... I would definitely try them. Cheers 🍻
@RoamingRooma6 ай бұрын
I am supposed to hear Mickey’s disappointed you. Was this pure bad luck, we can come to a kind of conclusion after you cut that tyre in 1/2. Let’s dig in to details. I am running ATZP3 two sets in my prado for nearly 8 years in all sort of conditions, never had a puncher or even a slightest leak. Please do that dig in review, l have to lock in to a decent tyre for my new Troopy Thanks mate Always appreciate your work. Don.M
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Could be a bit of bad luck, I am keen to cut the tyre in half and see what's what for sure. Be interesting I reckon mate, that's a good run and if they've served you well that's excellent. Thankyou
@RoamingRooma6 ай бұрын
@@OutbackOffroadNT Thanks mate. Keeps posting
@rockbiterhd6 ай бұрын
I had talks with mt about tyres hard to get answers over priced crap I run nitto trail grapplers m/t the best ever they are heavy tyre but man are they tough straight up 5,000ks hard dirt not one mark now 40,000ks in like new love em that’s on my 100 series turbo diesel enjoy
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
That's pretty interesting mate, yeah I will try Nitto one day. Toyo and Nitto are quality heavy duty tyres. Sweet rig btw, cheers
@rockbiterhd6 ай бұрын
@@OutbackOffroadNT I think toyo owns nitto both good tyres enjoy
@dustyfarmer6 ай бұрын
Toyo have killed off the Open Country AT2 and replaced it with the Toyo Open Country AT3 which has a softer tread compound & different tread pattern. I've seen Toyo do this before with it's tyres and the new tyre is nowhere near as good or lasts as long as the old version. I won't ever buy COOPER tyres again, all marketing hype with a B.S mileage guarantee they are so I might have to go Bridgestone.
@dognute27466 ай бұрын
Was running Toyo MT until year before last. Changed to Toyo AT3 when out and about and needed to change tyres that were on their last. Could not get Toyo MT in a hurry. My impressions. AT3 are better on bitumen in the wet and a bit less tyre noise. They might use a smidgen less fuel but not enough to worry about. MT better off road and appear stronger. 3 ply sidewall vs 2 ply for AT3. Intend to fit new Toyo MT before I head off around Aus in a few months.
@dustyfarmer6 ай бұрын
@@dognute2746 Good to know about your experience with the AT3. I've never had an issue with the AT2 in the wet & otherwise. I might give the AT3 a go depending on price. I had Toyo HO2 LT 8 plies on my one tonner 20 years ago & Toyo changed the carcass size & tread width and pattern and the new version was rubbish compared to the old HO2.
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
Yeah look I have heard good things about the Toyo at3 to be honest. But the Toyo MT is obviously stronger and my first pick over something like the at3.
@mrgarrison35166 ай бұрын
Can u read on the Mickey Thompson tyre where they were made? (country) Thanks 👍
@OutbackOffroadNT6 ай бұрын
USA mate.
@mrgarrison35166 ай бұрын
China or Thailand, I would understand them puncturing easily.....but American made 🤦
@robertgeddes5116 ай бұрын
I would be interested in seeing a bit more on your day to day jobs on the station. What machinery do you operate etc.