I never understood the logic behind "pulse and glide". Speeding up fires up ICE which is inefficient when speeding up and to do that only to charge battery ?

Thanks...I was also wondering Motormouth said right now fuel efficiency of 4.5 is amazing, but how good is it compared to 10 or 20 years ago. Just so I know to compare.

State of WA has you covered with their new $75 annual hybrid tax which will only go up from here. EV owners pay $150/year EV tax PLUS the $75 hybrid tax on top of car tab fees and all the misc. they tack on.

John Lobo John are you serious? Gas mileage on most vehicles, pretty much every single one was HORRIBLE in comparison, just people didn’t give a shit because gas was so much cheaper. Especially if we are talking 20 years ago

It's called metallic obsidian blue in the UK. I have two tone grey leather(full hide) interior model trim is Excel awd-i (we do not the synthetic leather they have in usa) our cars come from Japan.

V Lee eCVT 😉

Yup! It’s NOT a conventional CVT gearbox - in fact it’s barely even that. All Toyota hybrids utilise a unique “Planetary Gear Set” instead of a conventional CVT gearbox. It is often described as an e-CVT, but is way more sophisticated - and provides an entirely step-less completely smooth transmission system that is best described as LUXURIOUS. It’s the same in any hybrid running Toyota’s Hybrid Synergy Drive propulsion system.

Great choice!

@@nickolastiguan This has noting do with eCVT, this has everything to do with electric motor vs gas engine. Electric motor generally puts out higher torque than gas.

Aoru what? I was simply correcting the original post, that Toyota uses eCVT/planetary gear set In their hybrids. And that CVT and eCVT are mechanically different.

Why do you drive 40,000 miles a year, do you stay on road or something?

That is like 109 miles a day, seriously! I mean how can you even drive 109 miles daily? It is better to move near your work place. Excessive driving can cause disease in private parts.

@@furiousfragment7082 Not if you're a consultant or more flexible in various ways.

Especially cause it's only 1400$ premium.

Yea, I drive around 50k miles a year, and my current car averages 15 mpg, so I could potentially save $8k per year on gas @ $4/gallon, assuming the rav4 hybrid gets 38mpg average 🤯

Ya but the toyota computes pretty good and on point. The rav4 hybrid is hands down the sexiest, most conveited, economical and reliable SUV out there. I don't need to know the exact numbers, it's already the best. Whats your other options? Hyundai? Kia? Ford? lol. Chevy? LOL.... Yeah im getting the totoya it seems. Im just wondering if I really need a XLE or limited, the LE hybrid is pretty well equiped but for 10k you get alot of goodies and the best resell value... hmmm choices choices. Is the rearview cam, heated steering, 360 cams, JBL 11 speaker and bigger display really worth it? I doubt it... That being said all other manufacturers out there are pretty good these days, but Ive driven all of them and trust me nothing comes close to the built quality of the totoyas. They are very nice to own. Tons of little problems in other cars that go unoticed until you do, and when do you if you like your shit smooth you start being bothered. Little things like the window assemblies, the designs of the wipers and windshield gauntlet, the interior and comfortable drive/shift. The only thing that toyotas rivalise with is higher brands like german cars and luxury models. Ive been driving a ford fusion sport awd 2011 for some years now, its a GREAT car, very reliable and performance all day everyday, but fuck man ive been dumping it to drive the 2015 rav4 our family has laying around. Been 3 weeks now and im not really looking back. Ok sure the rear dif. lock, stability control off completely and big ass snow wheels combined with the snowstorms made it exceptional but hey my fusion is tight asf in the snow too. Most control too. But damn man there's something about these freaking teeyotas that just give you a carefree ride lol I even found myself enjoying my GRANNY's Toyota corolla S with fn paddle shifters (lmfao). I didnt use the paddles ever but damn that little thing was FUN to city drive in the summer with all the tech and drivability. Never cared for a second about the car/driving part could enjoy life abusing that little thing without stress. Most of it is mental, but the mental part only exists because these little cars really ARE reliable and fun to drive in normal poor road conditions like traffic and bad roads. P.s: If you guys need a little kick go and test drive a rav4 hybrid in EV mode stuck in traffic. It's VERY enjoyable. Not only you get a good torque, silence and smooth commute, you dont get the frustration and braking and accel all the time wasting gas. Trust me it's a keeper for most "passive aggressive" drivers like 90% of men. When I drive my 275hp Fusion I feel the need to go faster and its frustrating in the city. In the rav4 I just see better around and chill the f out. lol

I hand calculated for almost two years and over 17,000+ miles on Fuelly. The computer was always within two or three tenths of a gallon.

The engine computer knows exactly home much fuel it uses. Much more precise than your math. You can never be 100% sure you filled up the same amount. I mean can you trust the petrol station pumps readings? They are selling you the fuel. They could be rounding up a bit.

Exactly - far too many people rely on the car's computer for calculated mileage. That's mostly fiction.

@Csab Toyota's computer is pretty accurate. TFL did a fuel economy video with the hybrid. The computer said 41.1 mpg. The calculator said 41.0 mpg.

Thanks for the kind words.

ha ha, welcome to Raincouver :)

JogBird yes!.. i just got one and the first thing I noticed was the knobs and buttons!

Thanks Wade

he's a co2 is poison shill.

Wow what year ?

naveenthemachine Search it online.

I'm not so lucky. All the auto engine start/stopping has worn out the piston rings in my 181,000 mile Prius which now guzzles alarming quantities of oil. A known issue for these little engines if you search it.

I just bought a 2021 RAV4 hybrid. Was made in Aichi, Japan. I think they also build in US as well.

PHEV Rav4 announced coming in 2020-21

The LA Auto Show in November will feature the world premier of the plug-in.

Update. RAV4 Prime is here. PHEV 42 miles on full charge in full EV mode only.

Don’t worry, New President will do something about the gas price.

Too bad you didn't wait for the 2020 model which has it now. That was a deal breaker for me on the 2019.

@@henryhonda8408 the amount I used carplay when I had an iPhone was practically nothing anyway. Only on long journeys for Google maps. I bought a phone mount and problem solved. Every other day, my phone just connects to the Bluetooth.

I read that you will be able to get Android Auto installed in 19's at the dealership

The LE is the best value.

@@rightlanehog3151 I thought so. The other models are outrageously priced.

drumrboynoid Much needed with the abysmal gas mileage of the 4 Runner.

Still a great vehicle no matter which version you got. Even gas I bet you are doing no more than 8L/100KM

Initially ordered a 2019 hybrid XLE but after 4 months of delays we opted for a 2020 XLE. No regrets. The engine is smooth and powerful and fuel economy is exceptional. Did a 45 minute drive to a nearby lake and got 15.7 km/L. The road was mountainous so that's what makes it all the more impressive. Moreover I don't need to worry about the battery long term.

Not as good as the hybrid though

Citroen should let Toyota build all their cars.

Citroen C1 is built by Toyota in Kolin, Czech Republic.

How are the maintenance expenses? Any different than a non-hybrid?

9.0L/100 combined for 2008 RAV4 4-cylinder

The GM diesels have been cancelled but some are still kicking around. I would suggest the diesel if you do a lot of highway driving, they really shine for that but in the city, the lack of power is frustrating. For pure fuel economy the GM units deliver great numbers.

Hello Zack. Great to hear! I will check a couple out to drive and see how they feel. Nice to hear a real report from someone who knows what to look for. I appreciate your feedback and professional reviews. Thank you again.

The Corolla Hybrid hatch is sold in many other markets so it is bound to come here sooner or later. In the meantime the AWDe Prius seems like a decent alternative.

todd baker I have never had any issues in my 17 (I live in YYC). Depends on where you live, and how well your roads get plowed, I guess.

This is completely normal, the ICE on cold weather needs to be warm if you need exta power and not damage the engine if you rev too much. In summer the engine only starts when is necessary so consumption is lowet than during cold weather

agree, exatly same numbers... 6.4L/100 combined rather and 5.7 as best. I got 4.0 but only driving between 50 and 80 kmh, coasting to charge and smooth on pedal. Cheers

@blacknester I have Rav4 XSE 2021 , however, I full it to 900 km but it gives me 750 Km !! even tho I always drive it on Eco and never exceed a speed of 100 Km/H is that normal or just in Canada during winter time consumption is higher ? please advise :(

@@jotasmail I have Rav4 XSE 2021 , however, I full it to 900 km but it gives me 750 Km !! even tho I always drive it on Eco and never exceed a speed of 100 Km/H is that normal or just in Canada during winter time consumption is higher ? please advise :(

@@MrShidokan In cold weather is totally normal for short trips because the engine needs to warm up and keep the coolant temp, but in more friendly weather the consumption is pretty low, engine only starts if the battery is low or you exceed the first "eco" gauge, I have a 2021 rav4 too and the consumption is higher during winter than summer in short trips

What is the gas tank issue in Canada ?

Colin M then buy a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Better economy, better warranty, more space and almost the same price!

Got ours for 3% on a special deal.

@@Salesmanwithasleeve Mitsubishi still makes cars? damn. Don't see any of them on the road.

I drive a 2019 Insight....great car. Just do a search on the Honda Insight and you'll get quite a few videos to watch. The CR-V hybrid is probably coming to North America next month.... stay tuned there will be a lot of reviews when it's finally released.

How would you describe your driving style? Your fuel mileage seems a little low for a Prius c.

@@rightlanehog3151 I would say I'm driving more cautiously than the majority of people. Summertime I can get as low as 4.3l per 100km average but what really destroys my overall mileage is winter. There are a few -25/-30°C weeks and many -10/-15°C weeks that make it hard to drive in EV only since I park it on the street and it takes a while for it to heat up. On top of that the car is not well suited for snow even with good snow tires. Wheels will spin often and make the car work harder than it usually should.

@@flakeu Good points. The AWDe system Toyota is introducing to their smaller Hybrids ought to really help with winter traction.

@Eat Jat If I remember right, the C has even a very slightly worst efficiency on the highway compared to the regular. I only choosed it because of it s smaller footprint easy to park in tight city spots.

@@flakeu The Prius C is essentially the same car as the previous gen European Toyota Yaris Hybrid. Toyota actually did some fuel consumption testing with 900 Yaris Hybrids over half a million kilometers, and the average consumption was about 5 liters per 100km. So you're getting pretty much exactly what you're supposed to be getting. The previous gen Yaris Hybrid wasn't really considered to be terribly economical, especially for a small hybrid.

That's not info he'd know about unless he actually bought one himself. You're right though. Bought an XLE in July and it's expected to come November (date pushed several times now).

We had the same story from 2 of the 3 Toyota dealers we visited here on Vancouver Island, BC. We ended up in Nanaimo and not only did they have two on the lot (one 2019 and the other a 2020) but we ordered one in the Limited trim and had it in less than a week. Just lucky I guess …..

Dankjewel voor de nieuwe RAV4 vandaag gekregen en dan moet het wel goed met maar ik heb een vraag aan de hand van en de nieuwe wet op de plaats waar je bent en dan moet ik nog steeds niet goed is het een idee voor het eerst geldig gepubliceerd in mijn agenda gezet en dan moet je hetzelfde jaar werd het niet meer in mijn agenda gezet

Nothing different than a regular gas vehicle. Brakes will last longer though. Hybrid system does much of your braking. Another thing you will never feel or notice

Just search Prius longevity to answer your 1st question. BeIng a toyota tech. The system is extremely robust

My 2008 Prius Tspirit Hybrid (UK) was bought 2nd hand in 2013 with 54,000 miles on the clock. I only changed a noisy mechanical water pump at 99,000 miles - and I drove into the dealer for that after almost a month of intermittent noise from that pump. Fast forward to 2019 and nothing else has gone wrong. It’s long out of hybrid warranty over here (8 years) but considering it’s been my daily commuter for over 6 years so far, it just keeps going with NO failures whatsoever. Over here, it gets serviced once a year - I never miss a service! It just passed its 11 years MOT flawlessly with NO advisories. It now has 118,400 miles on the clock, still running on the original hybrid system AND traction battery. It doesn’t even guzzle oil! Less than a litre top up for the entire 12 months added 6 months after service as a precaution. Do around 10k to 11k a year commuting and social journeys. This summer, got 64.5mpg / 623.0 Miles out of a 45 litre tank of fuel. That’s in a hybrid with 117k on the clock at the time - with Airconditioning in constant use (manual settings, 2nd lowest fan speed, 16c). That’s from an 11 year old Prius workhorse. That reliable enough for ya? 😉

@@datathunderstorm Thanks for the details. When it comes due for replacement you can buy a made-in-Derbyshire Corolla Touring Sports Hybrid that will feel like a limousine in comparison.

The Prius should last 20 years so there is no need to rush.

Hope it wll be as good as a the 188 hp 2017 C Max . Kind of doubt it just a bigger vehicle with more electric things to go wong. Rav 4 is lacking in handling and the all wheel drive is not as good as the escape . Rav4 has more HP and higher resale value. Better to rent both for a week if you are planning to live with it for a long time.

That would be comparing garbage to diamonds. Ford = junk

@@halaheleu7013 , LOL, an Escape outhandling a Rav4! Now that's some funny shit. The Toyota AWD blows away most every other as well including Subaru so I'm guessing your other statement is just as much nonsense as the first.

You’re right. The absence of rubber belts is a good feature of the Toyota hybrid. No separate alternator, nor any belt driven air con, no conventional starter motor. The 2 motor/alternators do it all (via the inverter/d.c. convertor kit).

Claude W Blow it out of the water, lol. It’s already surpassed the Camry as Toyota’s number one seller.

For years I was jealous of the amazing Diesel options in the European market. After the VW Dieselgate scandal, Diesel cars were finally subject to real world testing across Europe. It was discovered that virtually none of them were meeting the EU air pollution standards which were already lower than ours . Until dirty Diesel engines are cleaned up, we don't want them to foul our Canadian air. It also seems that many European countries want to get rid of them as well.

@@rightlanehog3151 yes I agree totally but there are very few petrol options available to us in the UK and over priced Hybrids and over rated EV,s just don't make sense financially to most drivers and talking about range and economy, the figures published are at least 20% exaggerated especially in the cooler months.

@@rightlanehog3151 EU co2 is poison political bs.

Greg Polkinghorne hahaha yes, we waited 3 months for ours to arrive in NZ! 6 months is crazy. Toyota is pushing the petrol versions a bit because they have so many more in stock. The hybrid absolutely annihilated the petrol versions though, even the adventure version with the eight speed

@@pingchen5291 hearing it's more like a year now. Hopefully mine won't get delayed further than Jan/Feb.

Greg Polkinghorne wow?? That’s nuts. They are the smart buy though, so I think people are realizing that and production can’t keep up with demand. Hope yours comes soon, you’ll love it! If you got the “limited” it has a really gorgeous interior and some nice features

I ordered the basic LE hybrid model and was told three month backorder in Canada

I think they are worth the wait.

I just bought a 2019 and it has android auto and apple car play

The hybrid should get very good mpg in the city once warmed up. If your trips are very short and engine stays cold, even city mpg will suffer. People that take very small trips should consider the new RAV4 Plug in prime model that is coming out next year.

If you leave it in ECO model you will get much better gas mileage. Smooth acceleration and braking also contributes to better mileage..... I drive a hybrid and get incredible mileage. (much better then manufacturer's numbers)

Our gallons are bigger in Canada so you would be getting 50 mpg up here.

Matrix has been back and now called Corolla Hatchback, but not AWD. It might even get a Hybrid since the sedan has one already...unless, they are too busy building more RAV4's. Who knows...Toyota might rebadge again a Subaru or BMW.

@@gueyvr With a third side window, the Matrix was clearly a wagon not just a hatch. The new Corolla hatch has many attributes but it is too small to equal the practicality of the Matrix. The Corolla wagon sold in Europe and Japan is the closest thing in Toyota's current lineup to the Matrix which sold so well in Canada from 2002-2014. Toyota sold the Matrix, Venza and Prius v in Canada for one additional year when compared to the American market. They seem half way to accepting that we want wagons in Canada so I take every opportunity to encourage them to give us one more. The Corolla wagon is built in the same factory that already supplies us with Corolla hatches and many sedans. There is no reason it could not be exported as well.

100%

@@Alyssa-cb7zj whole world cannot be wrong, I think...

Literally understood nothing lol

@Ululu Kululu I have since traded that car in…but the battery recharges itself all the time. It never ran out of charge in almost 180k miles.

I think it will take a lot less than 5 years to cover the Hybrid premium. Don't forget, the owner of a regular RAV4 will also be spending a lot more money on brake replacement.

@@rightlanehog3151 if you hyper mile like me, probably 😂 My wife's 2011 Rogue has just over 90k km, and just eyebslling the brakes, the front still have 30-40%, and the rear 20-30%. So depends on how you drive, the how good the OEM pads are.

I prefer the grill on the Trail (Adventure) model but I agree it's NOT a reason not to get this great car.

Absolutely.

I'm not knowledgeable about the rotors etc savings. My venza needs these every couple years why does a hybrid not? Thx

@@sharkhark Just look into the virtues of regenerative brake systems. In general, brakes on a Toyota Hybrid will last over 100,000 miles.