Thank God you didn't include that idiot Tommi in this video.

800/100,000 = 0.008 = 0.8% of engines involved. Not too bad. BUT, broken crankshaft bearings sounds like you need a brand new engine to fix the problem if it's brand new.....

@@warg333 what if he did? Why does that matter to you?

So much detail they pronounced letters that aren't even supposed to be pronounced.

You don’t pronounce the s in debris. Thought this was well known especially for a producer.

The debris story is just a lie trying to avoid lawsuits and be recalling all engines because it's a design failure.

Newsflash, it's not debris.

@@jgs65elaborate, how can you expect people to care or recognize what you said as valid when you’re having a loud mouth and zero effort into the conversation

I agree. So far from what I’m seeing is that they are just replacing the engines nothing else. I wish they would step up and just replace everything like you said.

Its almost like a good old fashioned v8 is the solution the problem 😂

Could not agree more.

2024s are now experiencing this issue too.

All Turbos in toyotas are currently having the same issue dosent matter if it's the tundra or the highlander gas model.

A couple of engineers I spoke with said that they would be unable to believe that the plants in Japan allowed this to happen.

Unless the programming for the robotic engine building machines is all the same... Most likely

Thus the recall

@@RedWingsninetyonesped

@@RedWingsninetyone Yup - @stevekniess3665 probably thinks it is a conspiracy...

Oooooohhhhh

It seems like the theme in recent years with TFL. Pretty sad about it since this is one of the channels that i frequent

They are not a public service; they are a media site. They need to create content for you to watch. That is the business model. Of course, it will be repetitive and overhyped. All media is.

clilckbait crap as usual.

Right I’ve stopped watching them and if it’s a video that’s somewhat interesting most of the time just skim through. When Roman is in them just just close it and go elsewhere. Throttle House and Truck King are killing it. Only reason I looked at this was because I seen this comment and felt the need to comment myself

Your point 1, Tundras, was fully addressed and is in fact in the title of the video. I agree with the problematic fix - it seems both inadequate and unlikely to be done correctly.

A new short block does not fix the design deficiency that's likely causing bearing failure

@@Sylvan_dB He is saying that it affects 24s but the recall is for 22-23s, NOT 24s. Supposedly, they fixed the problem prior to any 24s being affected but he disagrees. Time will tell.

Their credibility is at stake. They should do a little more research. My dad’s on his second engine swap on his hybrid tundra. Same issue. When we took his truck in there was another hybrid with the same issue.

Agree, vehicle will never be put back together properly. Missing clips, retainers, fasteners, and cable mismanaging galore!

i been alive for 33 years , i think your correct

Especially since it appears to be a new crank cradle design

Wrong.

Agree. They just took a page out of Hyundai’s playbook and blame everything on “machining debris”. Hyundai had engine problems long after the recall was announced. It’s a quality or design problem

I believe your correct the supporting cradle may be too weak, dissimilar materials between block aluminum and cast metal cradle.

If they add the 24's they would have to stop selling them.

@@davidwethington9320 Exactly. I wouldn’t be surprised if the 2024s that are already documented to be failing have the same issue- which would be more evidence that Toyota hasn’t figured this out yet (or doesn’t want to admit the actual problem). If it is actually an engineering design flaw that would mean they likely have to replace every one built- far more costly than claiming a manufacturing issue and playing the odds that not every truck fails… Will be very interesting to see what the recall procedure involves.

They want to maintain friendly relations with toyo! You know it 😮

I had my LX570, was looking forward to new LX-Sequoia-Tundra…. No way I’ll getting anything with 3,5 turbo from Toyota.

They are given special access to Toyota products and events to talk good about Toyotas

Especially for 60 to 80k

I agree with you but, owners aren’t getting a new truck 😂

Mechanical repairs do not affect the value of the vehicle. Collision repairs do.

If you bought a v6 truck you should’ve know you weren’t very bright

​@@flyer8493That's totally not true. A vehicle's reputation absolutely affects its value. That's why Toyota vehicles hold their values longer than Ford or GM because of Toyota's reputation for quality.

that sounds more accurate

💯💯

Traded my 24 TRD Pro last Monday. Wasn’t going to wait for it to hit the recall.

It's definitely engine design.

@@billmoore770what did you end up with…an older V8 TRD Tundra?

Agree. This is going to be a huge problem and doing a short block repair at the dealer is not going to work. They need to halt production and send long blocks to the dealers so they can get these fixed quickly.

There is many with over 100k already with no issues, if it was a design flaw wouldn’t they all fail?

@@ughmasyes sir my uncle has three with 65k 77k and 90K no issues. He does have the oil change religiously every 3500 miles.

i'm not sure if they do this but it would be nice if the warranty time were to be extended by the amount of time the owner could not use the vehicle due to waiting for parts/repairs etc.

Not to mention those who’ve loaded up their trucks with aftermarket wheels, tires, lifts, etc. Put more $ into a vehicle you can’t drive. And apparently their resale values have tanked.

Man loaners are barely even available anyways due to the supply.

In 2007, consumer reports showed that the engine was the biggest issue, with some reporting a complete failure. Among the 537 complaints collected from this consumer report, air injection pump failure and knocking pistons were the two complaints. In addition, there were reported issues with the speed control, with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reporting issues with speed control, engine cooling, and accelerator pedals. These are dangerous issues, but they appear on a small scale compared to other brands. The worst year to date for the Tundra was 2012. This year alone saw several consumer reports with issues, including the engine, the transmission, and electrical systems. The top issue reported was the air induction pump, which has a high repair cost. Problems were reported, on average, around 74,000 miles, and the price was over $3,000 to repair. Another critical issue that came out of this year was transmission failure. The transmission is like the heart of a vehicle, and when it gives out, it comes with a number of significant issues attached to it. In the case of the Tundra, issues with the transmission started showing up around 9,700 miles, which is very little for a car with a reputation like Toyota. Average costs for transmission replacement are about $5,000.

Toyota must love wasting money on warranty work.

Bro when we had it, everybody was complaining about gas mileage and how everybody wanted to trade in for a new 3.5 eco boost ford. Now everybody or mostly wishes for the v8 to come back 🤦‍♂️.

Blame that on Government and EPA, always about emissions.

@@PRO4XKEV yea we should just ignore global climate change. I have no kids and don't care if the planet is unlivable for most people in 100 years . My relatives won't be struggling to find food water and shelter.

That's 100% true. There's also a possibility of a sub supplier messing with feeds and speeds to decrease machining time, or "alternate tooling". By numbers, doesn't sound like tooling being worn.

This happened in the USA as well as Japan 🇯🇵 seems unlikely to

Or just get rid of the ICE and go EV , but that would be bridge too far for Toyota, they're rather go with FOOLCELLS or Hydrogen powered ICE.

I've seen several videos showing the worn main bearings, but I've not seen a single image of chips or debris of any kind. Also, they've been making crankshafts for how many years and they have this problem now? And they duplicate this mistake in two different engine plants, one in the U.S. and other in Japan? If so, this is like forgetting the recipe for how to make ice.

@@AuralioCabal-nl8giEV’s have their place. But as a vehicle that is expected to be able to tow, their range is reduced by 1/2, to 1/3 when towing. In areas where cold weather is a factor, their range is reduced even further.

V8 can't pass the pollution control. You won't see a V8 unless hydrogen engines happen.

The idea is to do away with reliability so customers come back sooner. Toyota has fallen to the greedy WEF style of business just like all other car manufacturers

@@Dokooobut wef is the good guys. They hate pollution

I had a 2011 tundra 5.7. Loved it. The 5.7 sounds great. I just traded it for a 24 tundra. That v6 rips man lol. No sound though.

Thank the EPA for that

Best comment here, everything is garbage now.

Exactly, and prices have never been higher to add insult to injury.

We'd think Lexus would be immune to such massive defect. But apparently no...

Only they have made tons of engines without these type problems in the past. Even my 2003 Dodge Ram with the 1st year Hemi has never had a engine problem. It’s 21 years old!

Fire those Alabama workers and engineers

Amen😂

You will

@@Odat Dont bring that bad energy

@@mr.monkei hope it doesn’t but it’s not looking good for long term reliability. I hope I’m wrong.

Wow!!! Congratulations

my 1995 f150 only has 120k miles lol. I have too many vehicles to put many miles on each

Bought a 24 SV, also almost bought the Tundra.

Won't regret your decision. Currently on my 4th new Titan. 23 XD PR.

@@paulbenderavich3833 So bummed they quit making them. I'll bet Nissan is kicking themselves right now with this Toyota situation. They could have really capitalized on it. 🤦‍♂️.

Good choice. The only time it’s gonna suck is probably 10+ years from now and parts become harder to find but enjoy your truck.

@@SuperSnakePlissken I think you are right, that's definitely one of the things I worry about. Thanks.

Wow, that's insane if true. Hyundai is replacing engines for the same issue for about $8k.

Car Wizard just said in a video that a 4 cylinder turbo replacement in a newer Jeep was quoted $21,000. People make fun of EVs...gas engines are no better.

Mine was 32k. Took 4 weeks from when they had Toyota rep confirm engine failure.

@@bedlamfirm3285 holy cow, i don't think my 7.3L powerstoke is even that much to rebuild

I believe the Nissan titan engine recall was a short block replacement and the mechanics were given like 32 hours turn around. A month seems an awful long time.

We have to keep in mind that there’s likely massive insurance at play here. If it’s a design problem vs debris in manufacturing, it could affect Toyota insurance claims. Someone is going to have to foot the bill for these warranty claims. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Toyota is trying to pull these claims under an insurance policy for coverage.

Even if it's true, they still don't know where the debris is coming from or how to stop it. These motors are all junk until they figure that out.

Hyundai recalled their Theta II engines for the same issue.

I don't believe the GM engines grenade themselves and blow up when the cylinder deactivation fails? Do they? This is a safety recall since the vehicle will stop moving (same with Hyundai). Correct me if I'm wrong

"Recalls it?" And do what? They recall these vehicles but they're not doing anything. Have some more Kool-Aid.

My brother put a device on his gm to stop that crap. Also they have a tranny issue that you need to address before its too late.

@@volvo09, thankfully the GM and other domestic manufacturers are getting past the warranty period. These TT Tundras are failing before the first oil change (less than 10 K miles). That’s why it angers me with EVERY video on this Toyota debacle including 10 minutes of dribble saying, “forget this 800-pound gorilla 🦍, what about GM, Ford and Ram having failures after the 100,000 miles.” 😂 bunch of clowns 🤡 and Toyota fanboys afraid of being wrong because they nagged everyone who bought domestic.

Not necessarily. If the small oiling ports that go to the camshaft bearing get clogged, it's going to overheat and fail. It's a very realistic scenario. The engine design may lead for this too easily, but may still be perfectly fine under ideal situations. Also the short block is the current fix. With so many vehicles affected in the recall I'd guess a long block replacement is more likely.

Maybe you should have your license revoked

I just brought my 2024 tundra home. No problems. Zero. Let us know when you actually buy a truck.​@@hanksta34

Strange the Sequoia isn't included. Built on the same plant with the same hybrid powertrain

getting into 1 ton diesel engine prices at that number

And the dealer couldn't guarantee the replacement short block won't have the same short bearing life problem.

Many engines failed before the first oil change so that’s irrelevant.

It's a design issue. They didn't leave metal shavings in the engine, LOL.

This assumes the debris from machining is accurate, if the bearing spins due to a design issue, you only have shrapnel from the bearing getting torn up given a spun bearing blocks the oil flow to it

Who wants to do this????? Come on…

@@NapoleonDynamyte Nobody wants to do this? Anyone who buys an experimental turbo V6 making 500 ft lbs of torque can call AAA.

Tundra is a US built truck…it suffers from the same poor build quality as the rest of them.

@Travis12861 I'm a blue-collar worker, and in my 20 years of working at factories, I can say more than half the people don't take pride in their work. People are always late or absent, on their phones, doing drugs or drink, lazy or just don't pay attention. I don't know because we are so diverse, union focused, too much government help or what. I do take pride I'm my work and I think of who will owe what I'm building. Sadly, most corporates are way too foucs in their share holders.

@@Travis12861 The Tundras affected have engines manufactured in Japan and USA. It is an ENGINE PROBLEM

I'm going to guess you never actually looked into the #'s of all the US recalls before you formulated your statement.....

Are you trying to imply US manufactured vehicles don't have recalls? If so, I have a plastic donut to sell you.

As someone that reads a lot of comments on youtube i think your correct

Their reputation exceeds what their modern vehicles actually deliver.

how many. miles at failure?

Amen to that!!!

The irony of Toyota having the same engine problem as Hyundai and then warranting them for 100k miles like a Hyundai.

I believe it’s a bad design.

Probably a design flaw they didn’t catch. Could be a massive problem for Toyota since this engine is going in a lot of vehicles.

@@briancoleman971 that’s what I’m wondering. This is all speculation… The public test vehicle was the LS500 in 2018. My guess is that they may have only seen a couple failures and didn’t think much of it because the sample size was so small. Thus they went forward with putting it multiple vehicles in 22. I’m no engineer, but I’ve been an auto tech and last 20yrs as an aircraft tech, my experience leads me to believe there’s something else to this.

Yet some ecoboost V-6 get to 200k with proper maintenance.... this is a design problem.

That is not how a tundra hybrid is designed.

@@a-borgia4993it’s not what it’s designed to do, but if the gas engine fails, the electric motor would get you off the road. I think the recall will be expanded to all models when they actually figure out what is wrong. Right now, Toyotas liability concerns require them to warn the non-hybrid owners that your truck may strand itself in the middle of the highway.

Only if you are pulling into traffic the hybrid motor is not enough and could get you killed. My neighbor had this issue😢

Did that with my manual transmission a few times, it one time rolled down a hill and hit a huge boulder. Luckily it was only a dent in the bumber

A buyback is the best case; it will have no resale as no one wants to gamble anything significant on a blown engine, and the risk of something going wrong during the rebuild now makes you wonder if the engine might seize up on you anytime you take a long road trip. A long\extended warrantee is great, but I’d rather have a short warrantee on a reliable engine then a long warrantee on a potentially\more likely to be unreliable and now worthless engine.

Machining debris very well could be the culprit. That issue affects Hyundai's Theta II 2.4L 4cyl. However, the engines usually last a lot longer before catastrophic failure than what these Tundra engines are experiencing.

Made in Mexico

My neighbor’s hybrid would lose engine power when pulling into traffic😮. Lemon law buy back

My neighbor’s hybrid would lose engine power when pulling into traffic😮. Lemon law buy back

I don't think the Titan is made any longer? Though the Frontier is better than the new Tacoma, IMO.

@@palebeachbumthe frontier is one of the last naturally aspirated trucks on the market

@@Uknown76 You can still get the chevy 5.3 and ford 5.0

They suck too, trust me.

Thanks for watching!