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Nioh Onmyo and Jutsu buff stats Power pill, Carnage talisman, and more tested

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tracerbeast

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Күн бұрын

Today I tested Nioh Onmyo and Jutsu skills to find the stats. I tested the Power pill, the Carnage Talisman, Weakness Talisman, Steel talisman, and Protection Talisman. These Onmyo and Jutsu skills behaved differently than what I expected.
To understand the damage buffs in Nioh I came to a realization. Damage buffs are treated as if they are elements in Nioh, and I figured this out with my testing. I found that both the power pill and the carnage talisman had two different attack percent increases. They are different from enemy to enemy but they will be one of two percentages. Enemies can even have a resistance to one and not the other.
For Power pills in Nioh in the two damage percentages are 25% or 40%.
Carnage Talismans in Nioh are 82% or 107% with a defense decrease of 98%.
Weakness talisman in Nioh was a 9% attack increase and these numbers were pretty similar to the water status effect.
Only one damage percentile will be constant on any given enemy, and that number will be constant like a resistance.
For the defense talismans in Nioh I was pretty disappointed with the debuff numbers I found.
For the Steel talisman it was a 6% damage reduction for william.
The protection talisman was much better negating anywhere between 700-1000 damage.
Something else I wanted to mention was that rear attacks do a massive amount of damage, above 50% more.
If you like my Nioh Onmyo and Jutsu Stats Power Pill, Carnage Talisman, and more testing video hit that like button and subscribe if you are new.

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@wantedfreak12
@wantedfreak12 4 жыл бұрын
You’re a real one for spending your time to help others bro 👍
@nottoday9182
@nottoday9182 4 жыл бұрын
I suck at these types of games. I love how Nioh let's you use multiple kinds of combat. I've been trying a combo of devigorate, and Carnage. Seems pretty good
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Been wondering what the actual numbers for these buffs are, so I decided to test it. I tested around 40 different types of enemies ranging from humans to yokai and bosses of each type. These numbers kept popping up and only had variations within one percent. If there is something you would like tested let me know below and I will try to make another testing video as soon as I have enough to test for a new video.
@samemmott404
@samemmott404 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Did you happen to test devigorate talisman atall? Just out of curiosity really, i havent bothered using them yet.
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
I tested it today, and all I will say is as far as defensive spells go everyone should use this one. I will let everyone know why when I release my next vid, found more crazy stuff. lol
@sadsheep
@sadsheep 7 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful, now I know not to use weakness talismans. Thank you.
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
No problem! Going to test Onmyo and Jutsu power on these next. I want to see how points affect these buffs.
@Rockfello
@Rockfello 7 жыл бұрын
Great calculations pal.
@dqz-3141
@dqz-3141 7 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work bro! i think you'll become one of the larger Nioh youtubers glad i found your channel when you had around 400 subs!
@ogloc6735
@ogloc6735 4 жыл бұрын
You could overwrite the defense debuff from carnage talisman with steel talisman buff though. It not just removed the defense debuff but also applies the defense buff as the talisman said. Just make sure to use carnage before steel though or else the carnage defense debuff overwrite the steel defense instead
@Turbulent2000
@Turbulent2000 7 жыл бұрын
Nice vid and research! Thanks for spending ur time for it!
@dra6o0n
@dra6o0n 7 жыл бұрын
We might see those underwhelming buffs being updated to scale with stats, as higher difficulty missions and enemies starts to get added to the game. The main reason why those buffs never are as effective is probably because players have leveled armors which scales in defense multiplier, to quite a good level too. If your gear's level is higher than the mission, most of the time you are at or above the suitability of taking damaging (lethal) hits.
@MeaningNeverMind
@MeaningNeverMind 7 жыл бұрын
Came here for Nioh, subbed for TeamSESH
@itwas467
@itwas467 7 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, carnage talisman's debuff can be negated by steel talisman. You can pretty much have carnage up without any penalty 24/7 atm. N frankly weakness is pretty good for burn/poison builds that may or may not use more combat dmg on poisoned burning enemies, because it double dips your dmg. Weakness talisman also applies separately for your talisman buffed weapon so weapon buff main tengen builds(although it also uses carnage/steel talis combo lol) will actually see huge increase in numbers. Also, the true power of magic builds comes from discord status which buffs dmg taken also. You might want to do separate tests other than unbuffed physical swings against healthy mobs. It's a lot more complicated than that.
@stefantherainbowphoenix
@stefantherainbowphoenix 3 жыл бұрын
I guess they nerfed carnage because its wiki page says that it increases damage by 30-44%. In addition, it says that the *weaker* your equipment is relative to the enemy, the higher is the increased damage. Btw, you can negate the defense debuff of carnage by using a steel talisman.
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh 3 years later and i didnt know weakness was that bad hahah
@revfunk8823
@revfunk8823 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.....I guess they upped the weakness talisman??? Its far more than 9% now. My numbers literally go from 30k to 60k on marobashi
@beri4138
@beri4138 5 жыл бұрын
On way of the nioh, where enemies have super high defence, weakness talisman can easily triple my damage or more.
@2012shalashaska
@2012shalashaska 7 жыл бұрын
surprising finds here, thanks for your time on these buffs and another insightful video i have personally had an easier time using steel and weakness, then again im usually playing a fair amount higher than recommend level and use it when im impatient or cornered... a few ideas you may have already considered that i had wondered about- would weakness talismans make a larger difference when also using elemental weaknesses/resistances? do you think the steel talismans overall defense statistic could increase possibly with other effects or higher defense multipliers/reduction percentage? anything?? i assume that with any talisman, I, II, and III has only an effect on the omnyo 'readying' points and not any kind of strength or higher buff percentage? im sure this took a good amount of hard work, I would be interested to see more tests and results like this in the future. thanks again.
@doraemon.23
@doraemon.23 4 жыл бұрын
Does the buffs affect your living weapon like power pill gives more extra damage when using LW or using protection talisman lessens the damage?
@TheMrSlize
@TheMrSlize 7 жыл бұрын
Did you tested it with different stats values? Dex/Magic ? Does increasing these increse effects?
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Check out my latest video, I did just that.
@alienmothprobe9856
@alienmothprobe9856 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, good work.
@KONinJapan
@KONinJapan 7 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@KONinJapan
@KONinJapan 7 жыл бұрын
tracerbeast I don't know why I had a feeling magic was strong. But yeah it's good to know the hunch was right.
@vaporyduck6360
@vaporyduck6360 7 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subs.
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@azurethegamerkobold5434
@azurethegamerkobold5434 7 жыл бұрын
Only question i have is do these buff numbers INCREASE with your magic stat, because i can tell you i notice a HUGE difference in defense with steel up sitting at 30 magic power. While i have not tested numbers, i do wonder what your magic stat is sitting at how much +Onmyo magic do you have.
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
I think I have around 30 points in Onmyo magic, and about 35 points in Ninjutsu. I am pretty sure that skill points will effect these numbers but I haven't tested it. That being said if these numbers scale in proportion to one another, weakness and steel will still be outclassed by power pill, carnage, and protection. Protection is actually really good considering it can be refreshed with sacred brushes. I will start putting some more points in Onmyo to see what the points do towards these percentages and will let you know if I find anything crazy.
@bigdogplayer8833
@bigdogplayer8833 7 жыл бұрын
tracerbeast stats play a big part. I have tried with min/max onto onmyo/nunjitsu, but without numbers. Good idea for another video
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Have that video coming out tomorrow unless something crazy happens, finished all my testing today will upload as soon as I have completed the video. What I found will be interesting to people who like to min/max stats.
@tomatomtom4921
@tomatomtom4921 6 жыл бұрын
what's the difference between power pill 1, 2 and 3? is just the jutsu cost reduction?
@TheChecho3000
@TheChecho3000 7 жыл бұрын
Nice guide thanks!
@BlueEternities
@BlueEternities 4 жыл бұрын
98% defense reduction is a bit more than double damage. Double damage would occur at 50% reduction. I get what you're saying but if you're going to talk about numbers, you need to be precise or the validity of the numbers you're offering are in question which takes away a lot from your input.
@Madman6231
@Madman6231 Жыл бұрын
Respect for the effort, but if youre taking 2x dmg then you have 50% less defense not 97% lol.
@rickybozzi91
@rickybozzi91 4 жыл бұрын
Does carnage stack with Kara-Jishi's buff with abilities? And Izanagi buff with healing items? I run a skill based build, so Sanada set with izanagi and izanami. So skill ability, buff with rejuvination and buff when I use skills and was wondering how to maximise With jutsu-omnyo
@gwright1995
@gwright1995 7 жыл бұрын
Your findings on steel talisman are completely wrong for me. When I use carnage and then overwrote the debuff using steel I take literally 100 damage tops in NG+. But I am in full +10 arm.
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
+10? Damn! I am going to do some more testing to see how Onmyo and Jutsu power affect these buffs.
@cally133
@cally133 7 жыл бұрын
What are the best talismans to have to go into missions can you please tell me
@Devilgene316
@Devilgene316 6 жыл бұрын
Where to get carnage talisman.
@kratosk7625
@kratosk7625 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@trashmementomori4354
@trashmementomori4354 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny how I'm stuck at the giant toad boss and he's just killing it whit ease😂
@Me1onPan
@Me1onPan 4 жыл бұрын
TRASH MEMENTO MORI the most easiest boss in the game
@Ebiru2387
@Ebiru2387 6 жыл бұрын
So does thismean steel and carnage dont work together?
@midnightstorm4642
@midnightstorm4642 7 жыл бұрын
How do you get these talismans? I did the Adept mission but I don't know where to buy one.
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
The talismans I am using in this video will be in the Onmyo magic and Ninja skill trees. You have to unlock them with skill points.
@michaeljhale23
@michaeljhale23 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if carnage or power pills effect the damage of ninjitsu items aka bombs or surikens??
@arprime4999
@arprime4999 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Hale I know for a fact power pills do not effect shuriken or kunai not sure about bombs. But I would assume it wouldn't
@dfirevan
@dfirevan 7 жыл бұрын
Does weakness talisman make magic attack better? Like guardien spirit or any of the elemental range attack?
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, because it is a defense debuff it increases all forms of damage.
@piggelin971
@piggelin971 7 жыл бұрын
hey can you tell me IF i spec into Magic Will i DO Møre damage when i use a talisman in My weapon for and effect?. Or Will i DO same ammount of damage without specing into Magic. This is not explained anywhere so i would like some sort of test. Same goes for Poisen on THE Ninja skill tree. What Will increase My weapon effect damage plz advice.
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
I am going to make a video on how Magic an Ninjustsu skill points affect damage from skills and buffs. Just started testing so stay tuned!
@gottenwings5987
@gottenwings5987 7 жыл бұрын
Yo how u do that much damage is it ur weapons types or u get better gear higher up in way of the strong
@gottenwings5987
@gottenwings5987 7 жыл бұрын
And thanks for the good videos
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Much better gear in way of the strong. But my Kusarigama has some good stats.
@BaoLe-iz4fu
@BaoLe-iz4fu 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the steal talisman is for stop monster Ki recover or at least slow it down, no?
@beri4138
@beri4138 5 жыл бұрын
No, that's the Lifeseal talisman.
@chrisbotts8334
@chrisbotts8334 7 жыл бұрын
you don't explain what determines which % you get from power pill and carnage.
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Check the video after this one, I test and explain it there.
@chrisbotts8334
@chrisbotts8334 7 жыл бұрын
tracerbeast ah ok thanks man
@mariovssonic2080
@mariovssonic2080 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! I m gonna stop using weakness t now
@tracerbeast
@tracerbeast 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I suggest power pills over weakness any day of the week. Gonna do a bit of testing to see how Onmyo skill points affect casting, but that will be another video.
@redegd
@redegd 7 жыл бұрын
tracerbeast what is your intro song?
@ducky_got_eaten7919
@ducky_got_eaten7919 4 жыл бұрын
I am trying to find out how u get them not use them
@jonsullivan5171
@jonsullivan5171 7 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how much steel helps you when you have carnage active.
@arprime4999
@arprime4999 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Sullivan 6% lol
@markothulander
@markothulander 4 жыл бұрын
All i wanna know is to get op like some players I met on the game
@eddiegee8639
@eddiegee8639 4 жыл бұрын
How do you get a carnage talisman I’ve been googling it nothing pops up
@stefantherainbowphoenix
@stefantherainbowphoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Go to the menu where you can learn skills, then go to the right to the onmyo magic tab and learn it.
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