Who Makes John Deere Compact Tractors?

No video

Who Makes John Deere Compact Tractors?

Рет қаралды 273,785

Күн бұрын

Misinformation abounds about who designs, and manufactures John Deere Compact Tractors. Tractor Time with Tim answers this question, giving the modern history of JD compacts, and addresses rumors that Yanmar or TYM makes some Deere tractors.
UPDATE 3/06/23: Looks like I may be contributing to the misinformation! John Deere has reached out to me stating that the 30xxD series is NOT designed by Yanmar. Rather, it is designed by the Pune India engineering team.
This is frustrating to me, as we fully intend to provide detailed and accurate information. We had asked several sources, all of whom stated this is a "Yanmar design". I am sorry for this error.
Tractor Time with Tim Information:
Website: TractorTimewith...
Favorite Products: amazon.com/shop...
TTWT Merchandise: TractorTimeWith...
Facebook: / tractortimewithtim
John Deere Parts (Free Shipping with Code TTWT) www.greenparts...
Use Code TTWT for
5% Discount at:
AgristoreUSA (hydraulic top links) www.agristoreu...
Baumalight Stump Grinder shopgreendeale...
Deck Dolly deckdolly.com
Discount Hydraulics discounthydrau...
Heavy Hitch: heavyhitch.com/
Hood Guards www.5elevendes...
Hydrosplus: hydrosplus.com/
Ken's Bolt on Hooks www.boltonhook...
Lube Shuttle lube-shuttle.u...
Mudd’s Custom muddscustoms.com/
Precision Grapple agfolks.com/
PTO Link tractorptolink...
Summit Hydraulics summit-hydrauli...
10% Discount at:
ISOtunes Bluetooth Hearing Protection bit.ly/3xnc2rS
Ariat Clothing: ariat.dkkdet.n...
Tim’s Favorites - ariat.dkkdet.n...
Limbsaw limbsaws.com
Macnaught www.macnaughtu...
Supporters of the Channel:
AHW John Deere Dealership www.ahwllc.com/
Artillian www.artillian....
Rhino Ag rhinoag.com
IAEquip: iaequip.com/
4 Rivers Equipment: 4RiversEquipmen...

Пікірлер: 686

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

UPDATE 3/06/23: Looks like I may be contributing to the misinformation! John Deere has reached out to me stating that the 30xxD series is NOT designed by Yanmar. Rather, it is designed by the Pune India engineering team. This is frustrating to me, as we fully intend to provide detailed and accurate information. We had asked several sources, all of whom stated this is a "Yanmar design". I am sorry for this error.

@GoGoggansGo Жыл бұрын

Suggestion for a video, could you do an exhaust video between a stock 1025r and Johnny X, sound, DB, basically have some fun with it. Hell compare it to a 2038r. That’s the one thing we haven’t gotten a good video on is the sound because at low revs it sounds great. Doesn’t have to be 20 mins long Just a thought keep up the great work, you could also use a “dragy” and see if they’re is any acceleration differences, how fast 0-2,0-5,0-top speed

@pc5569 Жыл бұрын

Don't beat yourself up Tim. You corrected the information and life is good.

@Totalyrediclous998 Жыл бұрын

Tim, thank you for all this info. I have a 3025D, I don't care who designed it. It does what I want. Could you imagine an app that you took a picture of an object and it told you designer, maker, assembler, country of origin, most objects in our homes you would go nuts with all that info. Thank you for trying to weed through all the info and trying to inform us.

@geneshippers5493 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all of your effort. I don't know how anyone could keep all of that straight. It's sad that's it's not all done in the USA.

@RealJeep Жыл бұрын

I defer to my original post; I have basically given up on who (designs) and builds what and where. If they can confuse you, they certainly baffle the rest of us.

@zhoop1 Жыл бұрын

Great video! First tractor I drove was an '82 Deere 850. Boy is it simple compared to my '23 1025R. No power steering, no 4 wheel drive, no loader, no live hydraulic. But with a 72" mower, 2-bottom plow, disk, and rear blade, it did a ton of work. Dad didn't care it came from Japan so long as he could get parts at the local Deere dealer. Dad traded the 850 for a 790 with a loader. After I left home, he traded the 790 for a 3720 with a cab with heat and AC!

@Wolf1036 Жыл бұрын

The 55 series built in Horicon Wisconsin was designed and built in that factory. We used Yanmar engines and transmissions. The transmission was hydrostatic built to our specification. The system was designed to have live and independent PTO. Many paradigms were broken on these ( at the time innovative and unique ) tractors. First models were the 655, 755, and 855. A few of the firsts on these first compact tractor line manufactured and built in the US since the 9N Ford. The tractors featured hydrostatic power steering, live independent PTO, two pedal hydrostatic foot control, and the big surprise at the 55 series intro meetings was the first jump on and off front end loaders. In all the years I had never heard the cheers and whistles the dealer organization gave us on that unique add to this truly unique and innovative tractor series. Later we added the 955. As we ran out of manufacturing room in Horicon it was decided the tractors would be moved to Augusta, Georgia. Unlike our current line of compacts the 55 series was a frame built tractor. The operators station was convenient and operator friendly. The fenders and hand holds were as solid as a rock ! No flimsy rattling parts here. Today kept up 55 series tractors bring premium prices in the used market especially the 755, 855, and 955.

@connormonck372 Жыл бұрын

In my opinion the 55 series are one of the best compact tractors ever made. I Have a 755 and my dad a 955.

@Wolf1036 Жыл бұрын

Amen brother ! An example of customers, dealers, and Company working together to bring great products to the market.

@chrisreibold1634 10 ай бұрын

Glad to read a comment like this! I have a 1989 755 4x4 with loader I inherited from my Uncle. I love the tractor and will never sell it! Would like to find 955 with loader and backhoe at some point. Hard to come by though.

@jamesanderson2176 Жыл бұрын

As an Engineer, I would like to address a couple of things. I hear comments all the time that start, "Why would the Engineer...". First, Engineers do NOT define what a product will be. We work to a set of specifications created by marketing and management that include weight, dimensions, features, cost, etc. Second, we reuse things a lot. I would expect that it is rare to design an alternator, for example, to fit exactly ONE model. Whenever possible, that component comes out of a catalog (probably an outside supplier's catalog) of existing alternators, selected to match requirements. Yes, that may put a mounting bolt in an awkward spot, but it also means that there are millions of them in the field, not dozens, so you'll probably be able to find a replacement in 20 years. Finally, when it comes to JD continuing to use Yanmar engines in their compact tractors, I believe that's a very good thing. Those engines probably have decades of development and incremental improvement behind them and, again, a huge installed base for future parts availability. Sometimes, it's just better to go to a proven source. Show me an over-the-road truck where the engine, transmission, axles, and chassis came from one manufacturer.

@brianworley7705 Жыл бұрын

As a former engineer, I agree. I also have shared that sometimes the specifications put an engineer in a tough spot with a less than ideal maintenance access or other similar issue. Typically that individual engineer isn't just outright choosing to do so for troubling a mechanic. It may have been the lesser of worse choice options or decided by management folks with the authority to make that final decision. An engineer doesn't normally intent a poor design, although there may be a disgruntled one here and there with a bad experience.

@patrickjoy9551 Жыл бұрын

Not really sure why people get so bent out of shape on "where" their compact is built. Quality of machine (reputation of the brand as a whole) and good dealer support should be what matters. Not what color or the name on the sticker. The Deere is great tractor and the Yanmar engines (and design team) are top notch as well. I bought a Kioti based on your informative videos and advice. Could not be happier with my decision. They have a good track record of solid dependability and I have a great dealer close to home. For me it was a win-win. I am lucky to have JD, Kubota, Massy, Case/IH, New Holland and Kioti with in just minutes from my rural home. Kioti was the closest and gave me the best bang for the buck. But I would not have hesitated to purchase from any of the others if they had the better deal. Keep up the great content Tim.

@kramsey253 Жыл бұрын

I am restoring a 1941 John Deere B that my father bought in the 1960's. It has been in our family ever since. I can walk into my John Deere dealership and get any part or gasket I need. It is amazing. Love your videos and the Bible verse at the end.

@jeffreyyeater1780 Жыл бұрын

I have a 41 9n. I can get any part that thing at our local ford tractor dealer.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

I honestly think one could build an 8N from scratch by buying parts. Would be a crazy expensive, but fun project.

@joeaxberg3470 Жыл бұрын

This is not universally true for all JD’s. I have a 1969 2520 Diesel. It has the early CBC injector pump for which it is impossible to get new parts. It was obsoleted by Deere (Roosa Master made the pumps) in like the 70s/80s. They made upgrade kits ($$$) in the 80’s to switch them over to the newer JDB pumps, but that kit is no longer offered.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

@@joeaxberg3470 Area Diesel Service in Illinois can help you with your pump.

@jimhancock5047 Жыл бұрын

Good info! Had wonderful success with a JD 950 2WD FEL doing all sorts of projects. A local farm had an 850 4WD FEL that my memory says was made in Germany. Don't remember now if it was Mannheim. This was back in the 80-90's. The farm had other JD equipment and all were maintained well and had tons of hours.

@utubota5522 Жыл бұрын

When I owned my old Yanmar tractor, I went to the JD dealer for parts. At the time, someone made a translation list of the Yanmar-JD parts list.

@harrisla123456 Жыл бұрын

WOW!! Thanks for all of your effort to keep us informed!! I have a 4710 bought in 2004 and 1025R bought in 2021. This really helped me learn more about my tractors. Keep up the good work.Thanks a Bunch!!!!!!!!!!!!

@pc5569 Жыл бұрын

The days of vertically integrated manufacturing has been gone for decades for American manufacturers. Still common in Asian manufacturers. Great video Tim.

@steveprice4779 Жыл бұрын

I bought a new JD 970 in 1994. It has a Yanmar engine. And I believe it was built entirely in Japan.... It has been an Icon of Reliability. No issues at all. A very strong and solid piece of equipment. I spent 20 years in the Marine Industry and saw lots of Yanmar engines in boats. Here too they have a very reliable history. A friend of mine has a large yacht with twin Yanmar engines. His engine's have over 12 thousand hours on them and have just normal required maintenance. Great engines.

@ryanclawson9275 Жыл бұрын

This was one of the things that kept me coming back to Deere when I look towards a SCUT/CUT for my uses. Going to look at other companies that have a dealer presence in my area (CaseIH, LS, Massey, Mahindra, and Deere), Deere looked to be the most consistent in who they partnered with and parts support for tractors that have long since been discontinued. It’s not a situation where Iseki built this series, TYM (or their predecessors) built this series, Mitsubishi built this other series, LS MTRON built this other one. Most everything painted that shade of green can be traced back to Deere or Yanmar. And as someone who’s had to deal with chasing down obsolete parts or vendors/subcontractors who may/may not still be in business, I can definitely appreciate that level of brand management and support.

@TBE.LLC. Жыл бұрын

My big issue with John Deere is that their corporation is actively fighting right to repair for agricultural equipment that is hurting our nation's farmers,....

@Nathan_g38 Жыл бұрын

Please read the whole right to repair act before getting upset there is a lot more to it then just information in the ag world please understand what your talking about before saying anything

@dankreoger611 Жыл бұрын

I read an article last week, that JD lost most of the lawsuit.

@joelgregory3225 Жыл бұрын

That is false

@dankreoger611 Жыл бұрын

@@joelgregory3225 the article stated that Deere is cooperating on most issues except safety and emissions

@carlstrohm3785 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure they just gave up at least a part of that fight, so farmers/consumers have access and can fix their own.

@kimjohnson2512 10 ай бұрын

Tim, my 2003 JD 2210 was built in Japan. I ordered it and it was the 1st one sold in Saskatchewan, Canada. 1775 hours on it right now. Runs great.

@GPOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Good day Tim. Excellent episode and very informative. Loved it. Big thanks to you for all the work that must have been involved in putting this together. Have a great week out there!

@beefitter Жыл бұрын

I started with a JD 650 non hydro no loader. Upgraded to a JD 4310 with a loader. Needed a little more lift capacity and upgraded to a JD3046R. This latest tractor gave me the power needed to use lifting heavy objects in my business. Recently purchased a cabin in northern MN. Needed a tractor to get the dock in and out, do brush work etc, so I purchased a 2038R with self leveling loader. All of the attachments I have, can work on the 3046R and the 2038R. Such as snowblower, grapple, box blade, tiller. All of the JD tractors I have purchased over the years have been very reliable and all of them were able to function best to their horsepower limits.

@82ndpara21 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I’ve had a 3320 and now a 4520. Absolutely love them and the power tech engine.

@chadroberts1246 Жыл бұрын

Great information, Tim. I did not realize the 3D was a Yanmar tractor made in India. Keep up the good work.

@assyholey4224 Жыл бұрын

China owns 55+ of India and many other country's tractor MFG. this nice man is reading from a script.

@davidgrisco1939 Жыл бұрын

Original 2305 owner here. About 500hrs, just routine maintenance by myself. Parts availability is great. I've toured the large Deere assembly plants in the Midwest. As a manufacturing engineer/ quality program manager, I'd like to see the subcompact line operations. Yanmar engines are in my friends sailboat too.

@andrewslagle1974 Жыл бұрын

yanmar and kubota make the top compact diesels in the market !

@martyshelton1818 Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your deep dive and description on this topic, I was looking for an older compact tractor and wanted a JD, your description will help me decide.

@lawsonlawnandfarm8073 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video here I really enjoyed that. I was thinking that the modern compact tractors were John deere built I didn’t know that the 3d was a yanmar design though. However the yanmar style tractors were pretty darn good too. Those older 50 series were bulletproof to my knowledge. I had a 2305 though that I tore the pto out of and come to find out it was a common issue. It had the tag right on it built by yanmar

@azaleaoutdoors8109 Жыл бұрын

Your visit to Augusta is some of my favorite content on KZfaq! Great video thanks Tim!

@carlstrohm3785 Жыл бұрын

I'm 20 seconds in, paused, and feel the need to say it. My 1025R was built in the USA. Yes, there are some foreign parts, but a lot of it is USA made. My purchase was based almost entirely on that fact. I've watched videos of Deere assembly plant tours, maybe even one on this channel 😉, and it's nice to see American jobs building your tractor. Now I'll watch the rest of the video. Done. Yep, USA 🇺🇸. Nuf said.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

...in fact, I don't believe there are any OTHER KZfaq videos from inside the Augusta factory. As far as I know we have the only ones!

@carlstrohm3785 Жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim I knew I watched it on TTWT!

@alpine9996 11 ай бұрын

You said it: ASSEMBLY Plant. Just where they are bolted together from Japan?

@carlstrohm3785 11 ай бұрын

@@alpine9996You should find Tim's factory tour video and watch it. A good majority of the tractor parts are manufactured in the USA. As they follow the line, they say where most of the parts and sub-assemblies are made. Check it out.

@davidbailey2742 Жыл бұрын

A thought relative to TYM/John Deere connection. Before I retired, I worked on a team to propose options to expand our business ( insurance) into other countries. Some foreign countries will not allow companies outside their own to open up and do business independently in their country. They require the outside company to find a resident company within their own country to sponsor and distribute those products. So perhaps JD wants to sell their products in South Korea and they need TYM to be their required go-between. Just a possibility.

@Orefamilylawncare Жыл бұрын

Two minutes into the video and tim really hit the nail on the head with couplers and hoses. We all know Tim is a Deere guy lol. Yes many people say Kubota makes everything from bumper to bumper I THINK it's often said because Kubota makes the engines. With that said again Tim makes very very valid points of argument. For the record I just can't understand why Deere is stuck on plastic hoods 🤔. That's actually one thing I do like about Kubota is the steel hoods.

@davidford9017 Жыл бұрын

When it comes to the hoods it really comes down to a matter of preference. There are merits to both. I have owned in the past both Deere and Kubota with metal hoods and over time they would be dented and scratched from tree branches,gravel,ect..now I own a 3R Deere and I can personally attest that they are way stronger than people think they are. I have had tree branches and logs hit my hood that would for sure have dented and scratched a metal hood. They only blemishes I can see are some scuff marks that I’m fairly certain would buff out if I tried. Plus as things wear out over time plastic hoods don’t rattle as much as metal hoods. Just my two cents but I can say that I am a believer

@waynejones5239 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2032R and have dropped serval logs on it no damage from them fell with the loader clear up when I went to dump them they bounced up and landed on my hood

@Treeplanter73 Жыл бұрын

A build history of Kubota tractors would be cool and interesting to watch.

@Lumber_Jack Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting, as I think they are one of the last manufacturers to do all the major stuff "in house" (except for generic parts/components as Tim noted). But the definition of "in house" still involves multiple countries and sub-corporations under the Kubota umbrella. At one point Kubotas came entirely from Japan, then transitioned to a combination of Japan/US manufacture and assembly. There are still quite a few models that are built by Kubota Japan and come over in a crate or in knocked-down kits for assembly at Kubota USA or a dealer. Some of these Japanese units are paired with front loaders and backhoes that are made by Kubota USA. This would all make for an interesting video, so I hope Tim likes your suggestion!

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

@@Lumber_Jack I would need help on this. I may look into it.

@Lumber_Jack Жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Tim, I suspect you could find someone at Kubota USA who would love to ramble on about this topic -- I know they have been very proud to tout their USA manufacturing capabilities coming online over the years, so there is probably a real interesting story to tell. It would make a great video and I think you're uniquely qualified to present the story. Thanks!

@cubcadetmadness4673 Жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim may be a good video with Neil messick

@RealJeep Жыл бұрын

Didn't Kubota used to be a Japanese brand?

@TedErhartCFP Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this one Tim! I have a 2004 4510 and I've been super happy with it. Interesting to know it was a Yanmar design. I always say knock on wood but I've literally had no problems in the 6-years I've owned it. I'd like to upgrade to a 4066R at some point but I'm not sure I'll ever sell my 4510. Very simple machine. I believe my engine is totally mechanical (no ECM) which means more reliable in my mind!

@dfestus Жыл бұрын

Nice presentation . In 2003 I purchased a deere 2210. It was the predecessor to the 1 and 2 series. It really was a nice machine at the beginning of the sub compact tractor revolution. I think this machine deserves honorable mention . Thanks for all you do. Love your videos.

@dankreoger611 Жыл бұрын

We use a 2210 at the farm. Great little tractor.

@717790 Жыл бұрын

The 4000 series were some of the first compact tractors designed and assembled by John Deere. The exception is the 4100 was totally built by Yanmar. I was at the Augusta facility in 2004 back when the 4010 series had started. One of the engineers gave us a private tour on a Saturday. So there is a little bit of gray area there. John Deere and Yanmar worked very closely on those. I have pictures of brand new 4110, 790, and 990 tractors in crates ready to be sub assembled if you are interested.

@DLTJR1959 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video Tim. Love your channel. Appreciate the information. Very informative. Those series made by Yanmar for Deere were GREAT TRACTORS. They were very reliable, simple, and just ran and ran and ran. I owned a grey market YM 1700 and never repaired anything on it in 20 years. Seriously. Only used to pull a finish mower, small scrape blade, etc. I don't understand the sniping between owners of Kubota, Deere, etc...To me it comes down to local support and personal preference. I'm not a fan of the aluminum rear ends on some of the Deere units. That's MY personal preference. I'm an orange guy. My dad sold Allis Chalmers. The ORIGINAL ORANGE TRACTOR. 😁

@jvin248 Жыл бұрын

"Original Orange Tractor" ...I grew up with a WD on the farm, and picked up my own two years ago.My brother got a WD and rescued a local B.

@brandonkahuna1251 Жыл бұрын

I have a YM1700, it just keeps going and going

@michaelhorath6851 11 ай бұрын

I bouhgt 2015 a YanmarFX24D 28 Horse 4 wheel drive, Loader Mower Tiller , had 560 Hours on it ,3 Cylinder Diesel... No Problem with this Tractor ... and so much cheaper than the ( GREEM YELLOW PAINT ) !!!

@t.conner4798 Жыл бұрын

Hey Tim, next time you talk with a JD boss, ask them why they don’t give discounts to JD stakeholders. Their shareholder office refuses to answer me. Thanks, and great video.

@darylsmioth1904 Жыл бұрын

The best compact tractor for Deere were the Yanmar engine ones made in Japan. That run I believe was in the 90's and the 770, 870, and 970 were extremely reliable.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

My dad had a 750, then traded for a 770 to get power steering :-) Loved em both!

@gregwilliams386 Жыл бұрын

I had 3, and they are good.

@JohnSmith-dj5gf Жыл бұрын

It’s good that JD has a close partnership with Yanmar and still uses Yanmar engines in all their compact tractors because we all benefit from the reliability. What chaps my hide is when people say Yanmar isn’t a viable tractor company when they darn near power the whole industry.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

John, the issue with Yanmar is lack of dealerships. ZERO in Indiana where we live. The tractors are high quality.

@ltdlawnservice4586 Жыл бұрын

Love Deere and kubota from an American stand point. But TYM is offering better specs for less money. And with the latest acquisitions seems they are geared to be big 3 if not already.

@LedgemereHeritageFarm Жыл бұрын

Those 850/950 were imported for JD, just like IH had Mitsubishi build compacts and paint them Red. People who argue with me are just trying to feel Superior about their purchase. Great video👍

@barrywiseman7012 Жыл бұрын

Great video Tim. I learned something today. I know this video was concerning compact, subcompact tractors, bu question. Were the series of garden tractors 200, 300 400 500 designed by Deere. I know they had various engines. I had 1982 model 317, bought new with Kohler engine, then repowered by Onan after known Kohler engine failure @ 13 yrs. Very reliable and simple- But of course only used for mowing and pulling a wagon. Lasted, and was still working well until I traded it after 38 yrs for a 2020 1025R (arrived with the 2021 54" deck) so I could change implements more easily for snow removal, bucket duty, as well as mowing, Cyclone rake etc.

@hoosierfarmkid Жыл бұрын

All were Deere machines from the beginning, I don’t think Deere has over outsourced their Lawn Tractor or Garden Tractor production. That 317 sounds a lot like my ‘81, except rather than the Onan it got the KT17 Series II when the original Series I kicked the bucket at some point in its life.

@barrywiseman7012 Жыл бұрын

@@hoosierfarmkid Thx for the reply. My 317 was likely an end of yr 1981 that I bought March 1982. Dr you still have it?

@hoosierfarmkid Жыл бұрын

@@barrywiseman7012 Yep, going on 7 years this spring. Have a video up on it after I got it operational again last summer.

@roberthughes2665 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting this together Tim. It's so hard for me to get my mind clear on these manufacturers versus sold under names.

@travismoore3775 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this!! My favorite argument from foreign competitors is that no tractor is made completely in the USA but what they don’t understand is that these tractors are designed, large percentage of parts manufactured and final assembly in the USA.

@nschares Жыл бұрын

I have a 4600. I had no idea about the JD history. Long time fan of the channel, thanks as always.

@roybaughman306 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. .I love my 2020 1025r with yanmar engine 300 hrs no problems. .not even a hydrolic leak..the only ones who run it down about the engine doesn't own a tractor. .I have friends with a kabota.also a great subcompact. .

@paulmollise1856 Жыл бұрын

My 4710 had a Yanmar engine, my 4720 has a Deere engine, 4720 has a Spicer front axle made in China and a E Hydro transmission with a Made in India stamping on it all assembled in Georgia, it’s a global marketplace

@norton2742 Жыл бұрын

Excellent! Very informative. I like how the cat teleported into the video at 16:49.

@LongBinh70 Жыл бұрын

My 4310 is a Yanmar design, and from what you say here, was built in GA. The engine keeps running and running. I recently bought a Yanmar YT359C, 59-hp cab machine, and it is a wonderfully-built machine with a transmission that will take me a long, long time to master all the details. This machine was allegedly designed by an award-winning Japanese designer of European supercars. Maybe that's why the accelerator pedal is too close to the seat for American-sized legs! Yanmar, of course, owns the diesel sailboat engine market. I was always aware of a legend that early Kubota tractors had Yanmar engines, and at some point Kubota announced they would start providing their own engines. Yanmar replied, "Fine. Then we will make our own tractors." No proof - just scuttlebutt and urban legend.

@seanitaliano8759 Жыл бұрын

I had a 50 series, kinda miss it infact. That tractor was a tank, well over 10,000 hours on the clock. Only reason I sent it down the road was the loader was worn out, and there aren't any "rebuild kits" or "pin and bushing" kits. Every pivot point had major slop! Everything else with the tractor was good, it had an overhaul around 9,000 hrs, and wasn't done really well, as it smoked quite a bit until warmed.

@assyholey4224 Жыл бұрын

buy a grease gun maybe.

@seanitaliano8759 Жыл бұрын

@assy holey the PO's needed to buy a grease gun, I got it cheap, and it did what I needed to do. When I had more money, I sold it and bought something newer, and better taken care of.

@assyholey4224 Жыл бұрын

@@seanitaliano8759 I was just joshing you really, some of the steel just wears out like it was poured out of old car bodies also. I welded a 3point on a 3foot old trip bucket. the neighbor gave me last week, that is still better steel than anything new when you weld into it. and the Fergison can lift it up it ok. about 4 feet and trip dump. piece brother.

@ohiofarmer254 Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% I have kubota equipment because we have several good dealers close by. We have several deere store by the same dealer and they have a mediocre at best reputation. I fully believe as long as you get a tractor with a good brand reputaion and a good dealer it will be a good investment.

@jvin248 Жыл бұрын

Dealers change all the time as business fortunes change. Best to have durable and reliable tractor on its own.

@lawrencelacenski9781 Жыл бұрын

My father in law had an 850 and a 1050 and after working on them both along with reading the shop manual only as far as necessary I am fairly certain that the only major difference from the 850 to the 1050 is that the 1050 was turbocharged beyond that they are almost identical even down to the three cylinder Yanmar engine, However the head torque specs and the fuel pump screw is set differently because obviously one has more horsepower than the other.

@scottlitton1987 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like tractors are a lot like cars. Some people get very butt hurt when you tell them the Toyota Camry is more American made than the Corvette due to all the different suppliers. And both are built here in Kentucky about 100 miles apart give or take.

@cliffh8486 Жыл бұрын

Japanese partnerships have made all machines better, especially in the large construction market. Hitachi made Deere excavators a palatable machine. Yanmar is amazing!

@andrewslagle1974 Жыл бұрын

True to an extent, but we should be making, designing and building everything in our country USA .All this overseas stuff has hurt us as a nation!

@cliffh8486 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewslagle1974 we did. Take a look at the past.

@assyholey4224 Жыл бұрын

@@cliffh8486 when Someone said that giant sucking sound you hear IF you sign, and pass NAFTA will be all the good paying jobs leaving Amerixco , but know body wants to work anyway, I just wonder how long Amerixco a service Industry hell Biden can be is now TAXING WATRISS TIP'S. I have 4 tractors. 2- allis, Fergison, and a 2006 dingdong with a rod hanging out the block. $898 for just the crank, $500 shipping good luck.

@dinotudisca3821 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewslagle1974 All these companies are international companies.

@ericcrockett479 Жыл бұрын

@andrew slagle I think he is referring to Japanese influence, but look at toyota, we have a big engine manufacturing plant here in my home state of WV as well as the Hino truck plant.

@kentuckyyankee Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing the research, the early Yanmar tractors were very good machines too.

@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын

I agree ☝️

@turnertruckandtractor Жыл бұрын

Great comprehensive video Tim! I had a grey market Yanmar 1510D before getting my JD 2025R.

@troyr9038 Жыл бұрын

I bought a JD 2025R a year ago. I have 175 hours on it with nothing but proper maintenance. It been a fantastic machine. Is it perfect...No but, it's a very capable machine... The plastic panels people complain about or nice because things bounce off of it versus leaving a dent. Overall, personal preference... I also have a 1978 Kubota L245 but still runs great just got to take care of them...

@FrancoisLemay-lh5ze Жыл бұрын

Excellent information, as always. Keep up the good work. I own a 1025R and I learned a lot watching your videos.

@jimmcknight3021 Жыл бұрын

Tractor Mike might have some insight on TYM question. He has done some history on some of his episodes. On importing, there can be constraints on a company where it is too costly to have their own distribution channel, but there is enough demand where they can turn a profit. Good history of the JD evolution into the compact tractor market. 🚜

@mikehaines6176 Жыл бұрын

Good video. And you're right: the maker of the tractor is the designer. Also, I just don't know of any manufacturer of machines with a LOT of moving parts that makes every single piece of the machines. The Big Three automakers used parts from different suppliers/manufacturers as did the tractor builders.

@rogereubanks953 Жыл бұрын

I miss watching you work a backhoe. I bought my backhoe attachment mainly because of you and I have enjoyed it so much

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

thanks! So many things to do, so little time. I enjoy using the backhoe too. I'm glad you are enjoying it. We have a trenching and backhoe project coming soon.

@stevewarner8880 Жыл бұрын

Good video Tim. I have no issues with Yanmar engines. I’m a Kubota owner and very happy. You have a special relationship with John Deere and I’m happy for you but don’t think you can get by with having yellow wheels on your cartoon animation on your videos. Have a great day

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

Ha! Right. No more yellow wheels here! Oh well!

@kevinsidrow1553 Жыл бұрын

I bought a 81 650 last year for under 3000, it's in great shape. Can't beat the tractor for the cost, great capable machine for the price.

@bad122452 Жыл бұрын

The Kioti Assembly plant has a lot of tractors over in Wendell Tim. I guess they can be said to be Assembled in the USA. It was from the back all the way to the front gate.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

I’ve been inside that building. Not much assembly done there. Same as done at some of the dealers. In other words, I think the dealers can choose to have the wheels put on there in Wendell, or do it themselves.

@ziggycoops Жыл бұрын

Hey Tim. Just wanted to note that the 1026r is still in production and available in Europe in place of the 1025r.

@wickerm Жыл бұрын

Some of the newer TYM including the T25 I own, have the Yanmar Diesels. So I suspect they have trade deals along with the importing you mentioned.

@williamhaynes7089 Жыл бұрын

Tym does have an engine factory... but i suspect that in the USA they use the yanmars because its easier to pass the smog/eps regulations with an alreday approved engine. I have a tym254 with a yanmar engine..

@Tri-Lobe Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the video, Tim. It is always interesting to find out more about tractors, new and old. I knew that many manufacturers out source to companies who built part or all of the tractor. I would like to see more on this subject, maybe some of the old Oliver's and Molines. Ford case international massey ferguson. The history part is always neat. Thanks for putting this video together and I look forward to seeing more.

@assyholey4224 Жыл бұрын

CHINA IS WINNER.

@mikefowler1313 Жыл бұрын

When I bought my Yanmar 347 in 2021 I did this based on two calls to Yanmar. Both times I called customer service and inquired. I was told deere sub compacts have Yanmar designed and sourced Drivelines, engine,transmission and axles. This is why I bought the Yanmar and saved a pile of cash. Why by a deere and pay so much more when the Yanmar is so close to being the same for much less

@jeremymcauliff8485 Жыл бұрын

Very happy with my 1988 model 850. Handy machine for doing food plots and mowing trails.

@mikeRnichols Жыл бұрын

Tim, I enjoyed your video a lot. I did not see mentioned my (year 2013) 2720 model, FEL and series 60 backhoe. I love this tractor the only problem I've ever had was a fuel supply issue, but my local distributor fixed it, eventually. Man, they love that color paint.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

Not intended to be a complete history. 2720 is same as “First Generation 2032R”

@jamieebersole6755 Жыл бұрын

I would agree with not having to worry about yanmar engine support. With the Oliver tractors the aftermarket companies have you covered if agco doesn't and there are allot more yanmar engines.

@Ivc406 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I am not a tractor but found you're video very informative, nowadays not many companies have mould shops steel forging etc as they outsource as I have seen in other industries,only downside is are they making the component parts to same standard or inferior quality, All large companies have moved to third world countries cheaper labour and cheaper rental properties, again very informative, you're narration was also top notch regards 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🛠️

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. Check out some of our other episodes. You might enjoy learning more about these small tractors. They are kinda fascinating!

@michaelcschmitt Жыл бұрын

Nice review Tim. I have a Kubota but would also get a JD if it was available and priced right. As far as Yanmar engines, I would have to say they make so many engines that there shouldn’t be any worries.

@wayawolf1967 Жыл бұрын

Its hard to beat anything Yanmar makes. We switched from Kubota to Yanmar several years ago because we didnt want to pay for orange paint and the brand. That goes for green paint as well. When you need service or parts the orange and green ones are WAY to proud of their brand and the price tag reflects that. I like many others see it as a slap in the face to overcharge simply because they can.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

Why do you think they CAN “overcharge”?

@JimFinlayson Жыл бұрын

This is one of your best videos ever. Thanks.

@Dirtanddieselphotography Жыл бұрын

Golf course I work on has a John Deere 1070. They are nearly bulletproof.

@andrewciavatta9663 Жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you for explaining the origins of John Deer tractors. What qe have to realize is that these are global manufacturers sourcing parts from their factories all over the world.

@Slane583 Жыл бұрын

When I was shopping around for my tractor before getting my Massey Ferguson I went looking at the used machines the Kubota dealer had for sale. One of them was a John Deere 850 and the other was a Allis Chalmers 5020. The Allis Chalmers was my original top pick because it was 4x4, had a loader setup on it and the price was reasonable. The John Deere 850 was the second choice but it didn't have a loader & bucket on it and it was 2wd. Of course like anything the John Deere sold even without the loader & bucket and it looks like the poor Allis is still for sale at the dealer. The only reason I didn't go for the Allis was for the fact my mother wanted to use the tractor in case she needed to move some dirt and I wasn't around to do it. The Allis had a manual geared transmission. If she didn't show interest in using the tractor I'd probably have the Allis instead. If I had the disposable income I'd probably have both the Allis along with my Massey. HST is nice to have and easier to use but gears tend to pull more. :)

@RealJeep Жыл бұрын

Great video! The tractor industry is so confusing! TYM, John Deere, ITL, Yanmar and so many others, seem to just use a bunch of each other's parts. Both Deere and TYM use Yanmar engines in the compacts. Even TYM being designed and mostly built in Korea are assembled in North Carolina. I have basically given up on who builds what and where.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

No need to give up. It is not as confusing as it seems. Some of the smaller manufacturers want to make it SEEM confusing so that you WILL give up. They want to mask the fact that they are simply rebranding.

@RealJeep Жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim. I looked on TractorData and was blown away by how many tractor brands or should I say rebrands there were on there. And that's only in the last 10 years! It seems to me like tractor world is somewhat like railroad world. Years ago there were dozens of railroad companies. Now, there are about 5 and about to be fewer than that. When Deere, TYM and ITL are done ruling tractor world, we'll see who's left.

@andrewslagle1974 Жыл бұрын

Stick with the big brands JD, kubota, massey newholland much better parts support when the product ages.

@RealJeep Жыл бұрын

@@andrewslagle1974 The New Holland Boomer 47 and Work Master 40 are made by LS tractor corp. LS also makes a bunch of McCormick and Case IH tractors.

@scottfenton7607 Жыл бұрын

I've seen a video awhile back from TYM about where there are making alot of the other tractor out there but there's a difference between the TYM & the rest! The parts of the TYM front ends are beefier & the same at the rear! But that's all I can recall

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Would be surprised to see TYM selling against itself in that way. If you find the video, please let me know.

@scottfenton7607 Жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qa2motSDreCzZ5c.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын

Great episode guys! I learned a lot and it was great seeing all the graphics and supportive B-roll. Thanks!

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed your episode today. Amazing work with that loader. I really have trouble skimming the ground like that without digging in.

@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks so much. I have unfortunately gotten a lot of practice scooping up that trash over the years! :)

@noelcahill6707 Жыл бұрын

Here in ireland iv always bought john deere there prices are gone so out of control il be looking eles where iv a x740 and x540 and a compact 4400

@davekoch1184 Жыл бұрын

When I bought my JD Utility Tractor in about 1982 my choice was a green Yanmar or a Green Manheim and I chose the 2150. Been a great tractor.

@daviddodier8845 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic info, thanks! People who attempt to use the argument about “who makes it” are usually just covering up for either not being able to afford a JD, or who can afford it but don’t want to spend extra cash, or who are embarrassed about buying non-American and trying to justify their decision. All are valid, but if you just wanted to save money, say that! It’s ok, we forgive you.😂 No need to make up silly excuses.

@jayjones6904 Жыл бұрын

I worked as jd test driver for engineers it was sad time to see axle coming in from China India made engine and plastic axles were in boxes with bottoms covered in gross oil just sad day to me for jd

@jdfleetguy28 Жыл бұрын

Great Video Tim ! I knew about the original 2025R Gen 1s but had no idea about all those older models. Very interesting stuff.

@Kcolby47 Жыл бұрын

Very informative and interesting, Tim. You have certainly done your homework and have done a great job presenting the info. Great job. Blessings.

@Prairietrucker Жыл бұрын

All of the large Kabota tractors over 100hp are made by Versatile tractor in Winnipeg, Canada. They also biuld some larger tractor models for John Deere and IH.

@LedgemereHeritageFarm 11 ай бұрын

Remember JDs New Gen Tractors? The builders bought parts from all over the country, gears, hoses, tires, switches, light bulbs, …

@kevinthorrington2131 Жыл бұрын

I have a 1983 John Deere tractor, never had a problem getting parts.

@michaelcangley1868 Жыл бұрын

Great video, Tim! I heard so many of these stories. I'm glad you straightened all of it out. I know this video was about Compact Tractors. Still my question remains. Why does John Deere allow their branding on Lawn Tractors built by "you-know-who" that are sold at the big box stores? And they now even sell them at John Deere dealerships?

@garyaeschliman7743 Жыл бұрын

btw, John Deere builds ALL of their lawn tractors in John Deere factories. You-know-who doesn’t build any Deere mowers. Just sayin’

@les8804 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for clearing things up! Yanmar engine, transmission, and rear end but the tractor is NOT built by Yanmar. Who would have thought!

@petehutzel3778 Жыл бұрын

Tim Good article. Speaking as an engineer, no vehicle manufacturer in this world builds the entire vehicle from scratch. I have two Toyotas (1st or 2nd largest in the world) downstairs. I can assure you that many of the parts were NOT built by Toyota. And there is an F350 down there, too. The starter motor and alternator on that rig were wound in Japan. If folks would like to dig deeper, I can go into the guts of my Kubota looking for OEM evidence. You gotta outsource to be economical. The only question is, how MUCH did you outsource? FYI, Henry Ford built his own steel mill outside of one of his auto plants. Ford does NOT blast steel today.

@jonhill4580 Жыл бұрын

i have a 1250 4wd jd 1987 what a great tractor i live in maine and it starts in winter yanmar 3 cyl diesel

@mikelewis4792 Жыл бұрын

Hi Tim - it would be interesting if you could interview the JD subcompact tractor design team and get their input… Thanks for your content!!

@YMF1891 Жыл бұрын

Many years ago I worked with a guy who spoke disparagingly about John Deere. He said "that ain't nuthin but a Yanmar" At the time I knew nothing about tractors and had no bias but when I asked him to elaborate on why that was bad he just blew me off. The 'Ford' my father in law had at the time was OK even though it was built by Shibaura. 🤷‍♂

@cidertom Жыл бұрын

My old 4520 has the JD PowerTech engine... and that is a small issue with standards: The hp in that 4520, 4720 is in Cat 2 range, but the 3 pt is cat 1. That Caused me to do more shopping after I ripped apart a couple of implements I had from the previous tractor. One "fun " thing when I needed parts, I had to make certain which 4520 they were looking at. Yes, they still had parts for the 1960's tractor as well as the compact.

@TractorTimewithTim Жыл бұрын

You can now get cat2 arms for it

@drayne3750 Жыл бұрын

I just bought a Yanmar 324. I saved $5,000 on green paint.

@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin Жыл бұрын

The engine comes from a differient vendor so who is the marquee? In the auto market GM and Ford are called OEM's and there are industry classified Tier level suppliers...

@ClissaT Жыл бұрын

Wow, so many twists and turns! I wonder are other brands of tractors similarly afflicted with such a variety of manufacturers?

@joshbond8676 Жыл бұрын

Good video appreciate you taking the time to do research and share the information.

@akm03051 Жыл бұрын

It may be the engineers that design the tractors but it’s the bean counters that decide what’s actually built.

@JABECO2016 Жыл бұрын

Kioti is by far better tractor than kubota and jd combined in compact size categories

@garyadams9201 Жыл бұрын

Daedong industry which is Kioti is one of largest steel manufacturers inthe word. Kioti tractors are probably the most in-house built of all tractors next to Yanmar

@halsnyder296 Жыл бұрын

I have Kubota… solely due to local dealers, TYM isn’t available, John Deere dealer had an evil reputation at the time. No other tractor company has a significant presence here. I’d certainly buy and use a John Deere, Kubota, TYM…, but… I have to have good dealer support. I’d hazard to say that our best dealer support here is probably worse than a bad dealer on the mainland. Mostly die to availability from shipping expenses etc.

@mabmachine Жыл бұрын

Dealer support is the #1 reason to go with a brand. Deere didn't always have the best product in a particular market but Deere did had the best dealer network hands down. Unfortunately that is slipping. When I was a kid we had 5 dealers within a 30-45 minute drive. Now there are three and they are all owned by the same company. If you look at Ohio virtually all the dealerships are owned by just four companies. To reduce costs they've squeezed parts inventories and you have to drive all over to get all the pieces you need to put something back together.

@yt650 Жыл бұрын

Decades ago, a steel mill that I do business with but not with respect to power equipment did the following. They needed a new compact tractor to do mowing, they wanted to buy a tractor that was made by a unionized manufacturer. Unfortunately at that particular time some of the components for the tractor they wanted was not available on a John Deere. The components that they wanted were available from Yanmar. So what did this unionized steel mill do you ask, so help me, they bought a yanmar and had it painted John Deere Green. The entire story was told to me by the purchasing department and they wanted to appease the union. Of course none of them realize that they both were made in Japan and at the time imported cars were not welcome at that steel mill.