Trade Secrets CaberDek Flooring ~ Extension Build #5

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James & Ian show us how to install Norbord CaberDek in part 4 of our series.
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@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Check out the ForgeFast MDF & Chipboard Flooring Screw: www.forgefastelite.com

@danielfreer29 3 жыл бұрын

As a store manager of a building merchants I can say that the forgefast torx screws have definitely become a tradesmen's favourite for us. We can tell a good workman from the the good quality materials he buys.

@OfficeBoyBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video! This would have made my life a lot easier on my extension. Top tip, you can get polyurethane glue in tubes that slot into applicator guns, same as silicone or grip fill etc. It's still the same glue, but it's considerably easier on the fingers and forearms, rather than trying to create the pressure as the bottle gets empty and you need to stand it upright to stop the glue oozing out everywhere!

@ashreid20 3 жыл бұрын

Torx head. absolute no brainer. so glad to be seeing more of them

@timmargereson332 3 жыл бұрын

Hi guys, another great video- shame it was a bit short 🙄. I always use caberdeck & the glue but I still use 4 screws per joist. I then clean off the excess & use the clear caberdeck tape over all joints & screws. It is expensive but it does make the whole floor watertight. I started using the clear tape as I found the protective plastic can pull up when you're clearing up. Give it a go next time - I guarantee you won't be disappointed 😉 Regards Tim

@johnboughton7451 3 жыл бұрын

“Why is James looking like Benny out of Crossroads?” 🥴 Right joke over thanks to everyone involved in producing another brilliant video! Thoroughly enjoyable

@anthonydefreitas6006 3 жыл бұрын

He's working on Miss Diane's house 😁

@jameserbe8549 3 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up for the forge fast screws

@paul756uk2 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah was going to post the same. Good screws

@samposton9101 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely thorough job lads. Really great work!

@vinnysurti 3 жыл бұрын

A very satisfying job. You deserve a cuppa tea ☕️

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@derekkearns4202 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting videos and always informative thanks Roger and co, will raise standards for all and hopefully do it right first time ! Nice working in the Posh part of town no vans robbed and tools lifted there !

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

A good trick is to cut some plastic bags and wrap them around your handles of your tools because that glue is a bleeding nightmare once it gets on anything 🔨

@OldDunollieman 3 жыл бұрын

Only if you are an amateur, pro's don't get glue etc. on the handles of their tools.

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

@@OldDunollieman you must be joking it gets everywhere all the time ask anyone that's ever used it not one drop of glue ever 😳🔨

@vespagd67 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomsmith9048 spot gets on tools and hands takes loads of scrubbing with soap and a pumice stone to get of your hands how careful our are

@gsgaming7503 3 жыл бұрын

I love the different characters you meet on site/jobs. I qualified as a carpenter circa 30 years ago and can relate to James and Robin - both quite anal with their joints, setting out, finishes etc... and then you get the others that just do their best and caulk the rest. Keep,up the good work Skill Builder - I thoroughly enjoy your videos. James is good and seems a decent chap but hope to see Robin back for a few videos soon.

@thetallcarpenter 3 жыл бұрын

'do their best and caulk the rest'. 😆 Haven't heard that in ages. 'caulk and paint makes a chippy what he ain't', was the common one on my old firm. 😭

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

Filler and paint make a sinner a saint 😝🔨

@peterwalton1502 3 жыл бұрын

James is a nice fella & a very good builder 👍👍👍

@Ratsotone 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely job lads, well done, and there was some good banter too

@CryptikStudios 2 жыл бұрын

“Nice sunny day” 😂

@joelbarker5575 3 жыл бұрын

I can’t stop looking at the none branded Festool battery on his impact driver!!😳

@thetallcarpenter 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video guys. The jobs coming along nicely. 👍 Its nice to see that its a pretty sizable extension. 😎

@Backwoodscountryman 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and I suggest that you also put it into the category of British bird song. Behind the constant of the Robin, I heard chaffinch, chiffchaff, nuthatch, blackbird, carrion crow, wood pigeon, and a few others I couldn't make out because someone was very rudely talking over it 😂

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

That is amazing. We hear the birds in the background but knowing them all is really great. Tricky with the ear defenders.

@Oli_Hudson 3 жыл бұрын

Great job fellas!

@BuildWithAE 3 жыл бұрын

Nicely done James, the plunge saw are a must have a awesome weekend all the best Tony 👍

@jimichip 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Tony.

@DavidHowellsBuilders 3 жыл бұрын

Great as always lads.

@thinkFishcatchFish 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video, really helpful 👍

@chekymonkey4452 3 жыл бұрын

grate job men verry professional-looking good

@jasonantigua6825 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely stuff!

@antonybradford5948 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry if someone has already said this - my top tip for hammering in to close the joints is to use an off cut from a section. Cut off to leave a square face and then leave the tongue/ groove to slot in and hammer home your board 👍🏼 Great job chaps, and a good product 👍🏼👍🏼

@tinytonymaloney7832 3 жыл бұрын

That's a good tip, have done that before years ago but why doesn't somebody come up with a nylon profiled bashing block??

@HewzTV 3 жыл бұрын

@@tinytonymaloney7832 selecta do with their screedboard. Not timber but same principal

@mark3995 3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff lads👌👌👌👌

@ryanh3285 3 жыл бұрын

Forgefix screws are awesome I've used them for loads and they are reasonably priced.

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Toolstation

@dave1secondago 3 жыл бұрын

great vid guys

@1billwill 2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU GREAT VIDEO.

@farukadam1696 3 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic job

@farukadam1696 3 жыл бұрын

Regards Faruk

@jimichip 3 жыл бұрын

@@farukadam1696 thanks.

@stevehallam6495 Жыл бұрын

You are right about not nailing the board leading edge as it becomes difficult to pull the next board in. The NHBC get rather over excited about gluing the board perimeter but it's all a load of tripe. We did about 70 houses before we were told we had to do it and there were zero issues in any of them with any perimeter boards.

@eddjordan2399 3 жыл бұрын

You better be using a bottle of glue per 3 boards like they say on the bottle.great job as always you are the king.

@michaelbanks9544 3 жыл бұрын

7.50 I found the same when I did mine, leave the front row of screws out until you have the next board in 👍🏻

@Pistol_Knight 3 жыл бұрын

Basic rule of fitting to any joist, the bow all over the place put the screws in but dont drive them home, all this new gluing the T&G and to the joists! does nobody care when Roger has to go round in 10yrs to change the en-suite how is he going to re-route the pipework when he cant get the boards up!!!!!?

@Daniells1982 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pistol_Knight yeah mate, you're better off dropping the ceiling below. Especially when using these I beam type joists. They'd be destroyed lifting the floor and structural integrity gone.

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

@@Pistol_Knight that's what oscillators are for 😝🔨

@ilijadjujic5911 3 жыл бұрын

I've never put screws in on the front of the board with this system I've always screwed into the back edge until it comes to the last row. Never had any issues doing it this way

@justbreakingballs 3 жыл бұрын

Common sense.

@SteveAndAlexBuild 3 жыл бұрын

Loving this series chaps ! As for the flooring yes the glue does ooze out and dry and is a right royal pain in the arse when us brickies do the internal blockwork and try and tidy up the floor 😩. I’ve never seen a chippie painting the edges or filling the nail holes ( no screws on new builds ) on site yet . Maybe that’s why our 12 month old floor boards bloody creak 😡😡. Great video as ever chaps 🧱👍🏼

@jimichip 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers! Yeah it’s a nightmare to sweep, I think that next time I’ll get the tape the sticks over the joints to try and reduce the bump that’s left.

@thetallcarpenter 3 жыл бұрын

@@jimichip We use the tape aswell James. Rip little squares for the nail/screw holes and then lap tape around the complete perimeter.👍 Good job mate, and this type of decking makes the job so much more civilized and when its all done inside, you just rip up the plastic and, BOOM, a nice clean floor. 😎

@andrewrobertson4171 3 жыл бұрын

Ive been using the Simpsons strong tie Quikdrive collated screw system for nearly 20 years. Square head Robertson screw and corded high speed drill with autofeed . So much quicker and it has an extension so you can screw the flooring standing up to save my dodgy back🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍🔨

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

I have one of those and never use it because the screws are too expensive

@redstihl9027 3 жыл бұрын

Glue and coil nailer all day long 👍🏼👍🏼

@gsgaming7503 3 жыл бұрын

@JeffPorters 3 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@allanlee5817 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure on the cost difference between the standard board and the coated board but in the past I have used concrete sealer applied with paint roller on standard board to waterproof.....worked well, was quick to apply, rapid drying and no issues with wet weather before the roof went on

@jamiehalpin9921 2 жыл бұрын

You're creating a non breathable board though.

@adamlancaster183 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoying the series Roger, any chance of longer episodes? Just get settled in and then it finishes!

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Adam We have a really long one coming up in two or three weeks time. Good to know you like a longer video. We chuck a lot of good footage away.

@adamlancaster183 3 жыл бұрын

I use KZfaq like a tv so longer the better for me, don’t throw any footage away!

@samoconnor3037 3 жыл бұрын

I agree Roger... don't let that footage go to waste... we will watch it!

@tobsco2 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder I reckon you could easily add another 5 mins of footage to this without it dragging. Always like watching James work

@noskills9577 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder don’t be silly mate we will watch it

@jameshurst3279 3 жыл бұрын

That was a fast climb from 200k to 300k subscribers

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Yes we are very pleased with the growth and hope it continues

@jacannon9147 3 жыл бұрын

Great Job again lads, top quality I would recommend Floor Tite screws , excellent quality. QUICK Question, I would mainly use 18mm or 25mm plywood exterior grade, Cheaper and have had terrible experience with chipboard products when used in exposed conditions, What's your views ?? Well done again!

@craigcrofts156 3 жыл бұрын

Few friendly tips! Rip 15mm off from first row to make it easier to apply the glue to the edge rather than a groove. Use a sledge hammer to knock it together. Leave the block work down if you can and mark the floor in one go with a chalk line and you can secretly fix through the tongue so there are less holes in the floor. But the polyurethane glue is the best, you won't need anymore fixings and the floor will never squeak. Good job guys 👍

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Yes we could have cut that groove off.

@brickrightbuildinglandscaping 3 жыл бұрын

As a bricklayer makes it easier years ago would lay the internal skin from the external so on the scaffolding. So game changer for us . Question then what trades does it hinder ?really enjoyed the video. Justin brickright 👍

@davidwills6640 3 жыл бұрын

A plumber has to work above his head.

@shaunhennessy603 3 жыл бұрын

The brickies will love that in the morning.👍 Better than a few scabby sheets of Osb to work off😂

@gixer6847 3 жыл бұрын

brill vid as always but @ 9:16 in, who's the guy trying to knock in the board while he's standing on it .. lol

@spanishpeaches2930 3 жыл бұрын

Haha !I was laughing at the old 'Oirish method too !

@lunavx 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer using lost tite screws in the tongue, also I use a bit of offcut to use as a tapping block

@OldDunollieman 3 жыл бұрын

NO screws into the tongue EVER !

@coops6621 3 жыл бұрын

that's one mahoosive extension

@fireblaster9961 3 жыл бұрын

Good to see Ian’s not doing all the work this time, good lucky to the plumbers and sparks in years to come with all theses supper glues chip board floors....omg the end shoot, think they used enough glue

@justbreakingballs 3 жыл бұрын

That glue ain’t gonna do shit to stop me plunging a circular into it. That’s said no plumber or spark should be needed for 30yrs

@badninja1971 3 жыл бұрын

Moving towards Torx screws now, fed up with the cost & inconvenience of PZ2’s constantly snapping. Used 200 PZ2 in one day on a loft conversion screwing new rafters to existing trusses. 🤦‍♂️

@davehole643 3 жыл бұрын

20mm border gap around the perimeter for expansion, and pipe/cable installation?

@adrianbew9641 3 жыл бұрын

I've covered the joist ends with dpc in solid walls but not cavity. Is that now standard practice or personal preference .

@julianthornton9076 3 жыл бұрын

I still think you cant beat sheathing or osb then you are not forced down the plastic pipe route, we do a lot of work on old properties & mickey and his buddies love a good chomp on plastic pipes!

@justbreakingballs 3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense, build the modern house like it’s going to be infested with rats and mice. Steel conduit for all cables, pyro, switch gear to explosive environment standards, iron work for the plumbing.

@grantcook5376 3 жыл бұрын

Was james using your best cutting in brush?

@repairlad1934 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with watching skill Builder at 3.30am when you can't sleep 👍

@rutgerhoutdijk3547 3 жыл бұрын

Are torx only now becoming popular in the UK? I use nothing else for 15 years at least. Don't understand why philips is still used.

@CucumberFanatic 3 жыл бұрын

Phillips have been outdated for years now, the standard over here is pozi screws, they actually have the same contact as torx screws and are generally much cheaper, it's rare to find people using torx over here tbh.

@rutgerhoutdijk3547 3 жыл бұрын

Pozi is just a slightly improved philips, it's no match for torx in terms of grip.

@CucumberFanatic 3 жыл бұрын

@@rutgerhoutdijk3547 it's up for debate, but from all the tests and comparisons I've seen and my own tests I've found pozi drive to be more reliable when used properly. Torx has 6 contact points and pozi has 8. But everyone has their own preferences I suppose :)

@spanishpeaches2930 3 жыл бұрын

I've been using torx screws for at least twelve years. I just find them the best for purpose. They never cam-out.

@acciid 3 жыл бұрын

I had this argument with the chippies who did the loft on my last place. I was doing the studwork on the floor below and was using torx. I tried to explain how they are better engineered but they were too stuck in their ways. Their reasoning was you had to change the torx bit for different size screws too often. The only down side I've found is if you have a screw that sticks. On posi heads the bit will jump out and chew it, which is annoying enough, but with a torx it can rip the head clean off. Not so easy to get the screw out.

@harronfn4845 3 жыл бұрын

1:50 just go corner to corner both ways ie top right to bottom left then top left to bottom right to check for square as your measuring both the hypotenuses so no need to do and calcs

@amazing451 3 жыл бұрын

Very through looking installation as usual never seen carpenters paint the heads of screws or filling the joints before. Just one point why did you put an extra joist in next to the trimmer, 0.50 on the video if you had laid the joists at 400mm?

@brianwood5220 3 жыл бұрын

Great job Ian & James. Do you have to sand down the joins when the coating is pealed off?

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

No kjust run around with a scraper and it comes off

@brianwood5220 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder Excellent stuff then.

@daihedral9269 3 жыл бұрын

It can only be a matter of time before a tool/ chemical/system for removing glued down floors without destroying the whole house appears on the market. This current way of fitting floors while effective in the short term is one hell of a hostage to fortune.

@melvinpartridge688 3 жыл бұрын

Is wrapping joist ends reg's, I was told many moons ago they stopped that because of sweating and rot, they used a gel instead, anyway interesting videos, thanks.

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

They don't sweat. The joist is in the warm area so the moisture level is the same. The wrap is an extra precaution that James likes to use but it is not required by regs. What is required is air tightness and this is achieved by using a sealant around the wrap. That still allows any moisture in the joist to come out through the open end of the wrap.

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

I'll be a spax man until the end 😝🔨

@davidprice9265 3 жыл бұрын

Its great and its right , but I don't think the guys on £3 quid a meter down at persimmon or Taylor wimpey have the same finesse as you guys

@JDalston 3 жыл бұрын

We do a fine job on TW

@concreteart1111 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid Roger... I thought the T&G on these boards were designed to be strong enough to be fitted mid joist with no noggins needed? or is it just belt and braces? Cheers

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

That is a common misconception. All the manufacturers advise against it. Admittedly the boards can support a fair load but there is a difference between a live load and a dead load. People tend to tread on the same spot over and over so you have to think about an 18 stone person treading on that board end and cracking that chipboard tongue over several years. Maybe he/she had it coming to them, there has to be a penalty for eating all the pies.

@concreteart1111 3 жыл бұрын

We always d4 glue and twin thread screws into place also. We use noggins where needed as belt and braces. Be great if a manufacturer could come up with a reinforced t&g board that didn’t require noggins. It would cut down on the use of timber and dramatically speed the job up! Anyway, cheers for the response and keep the great work up!

@CarlosFandandgo Жыл бұрын

Is this flooring suitable for a bathroom? I need a new 22mm floor in my bathroom project. It will be fully tanked with Impey water guard.

@calummcclouud7468 Жыл бұрын

So would you scrap the excess off once dry or just leave it how it is

@Manu-fv4cc 25 күн бұрын

Is the chipboard ok to use for flooring? I have heard that is not strong enough and also if get wet with water will go bad quickly

@joshuamatheron1 3 жыл бұрын

I generally don’t screw the front of the board until the second board is in place. Can be a bastard to get in otherwise. Not sure that’s a days work for one person :)

@hendrax5889 3 жыл бұрын

Too right. £350 for joist set and flooring down my way. Twice the size of this one too!

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

@@hendrax5889 that's very cheap 🔨

@JACKATTACKED 3 жыл бұрын

👍

@ADF-js9vi 3 жыл бұрын

Use an off cut for knocking in to prevent breaking the tongue. Also, would it be easier to have the glue in a sealant cartridge so it could be applied by a gun?

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

We did use off cuts but they disintegrate

@danielbolton6905 3 жыл бұрын

Off cuts of chipboard do disintegrate. We use a tapping block or flooring bar. They are made for the job and can be used on your solid floor instals too.

@Anthony-dh3ty 2 жыл бұрын

Is this 18mm or 22mm flooring ?

@MarvinofMars 3 жыл бұрын

Caberboard is very good. Some siteswe dont fit until the roof is tilled. Letting the joists dry out. Normally let plumb first fix happen too. Glue and screw is the best fix for sure. 4mm screw just pop the heads of 5mm-6mm these days. 22mm is a great board.

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

This board is made for fixing at this stage. The whole point is to give you a safe working deck that resists the weather.

@MarvinofMars 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder It would be away to wet in NI to consider that idea. We lose a day a week here with rain on average. Working in Dublin a day a month only a 100 miles away! That's not considering wind either. Sep-April allow for gales every 2 weeks. So peaks can often halt for weather windows. Good enough idea, speeding the works up, but the plumbers would crack not getting first fix down. They wont leave copper hanging with block work on going 2-3 weeks from peaks. Window companies here refuse to measure until masonry is complete and all thresholds are fitted. Plus then it 4 -6 weeks for delivery. On theft alone the odds are stacking against you in social housing scheme at least..

@justbreakingballs 3 жыл бұрын

I always think the sooner you get it all built up and screwed together with the floor on etc the better for it all to to dry as one unit, yes stuff will still move I’m sure but if the floor dries out independent it can move easier.

@dziadekstev 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Skill builder. what is the name and model of your impact driver ?? is it festool impact ?

@spanishpeaches2930 3 жыл бұрын

This might seem unusual, but I bought a Panasonic impact driver about fourteen years back. Looked at the De Walt, then Makita in the shop, then held the Panasonic and it fitted my hand like a glove. Probably the best tool I've ever bought. It was about £190 back then and is still going strong and have never replaced either battery. The amount of 150mm screws it's put in is unreal.

@bromkin 3 жыл бұрын

Just interested to kNow how many bottles of glue did that take ?

@jimichip 3 жыл бұрын

I think it was around 6-8.

@AV_N_DWG Жыл бұрын

So... you stand on the board that you want to hammer in place.... Surely hammering the board when you are sitting on it makes it harder for it to move.. Because you have your weight on it??? Or is there a reason for it??

@bikecurious9163 3 жыл бұрын

Do you need to land on a joist I thought caberdeck will span the gap? Anyway top work again

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

If your setting out from scratch you'll land on a joist as the boards are 2400mm but if it's set out differently I put 3 bridging timbers in front middle and back it might be over kill but it does no harm hope that helps 🔨

@stevengillespie6729 3 жыл бұрын

Always land on a joist..... if not put a dwang in for support

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

You can't join in between the joists with no support. People are getting heavier. We might have point load from a bed and two heavy people going at it.

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

@@stevengillespie6729 you'll have to translate that for him pal not everyone has worked in Scotland 😉🔨

@dampwally611 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomsmith9048 Let's face it Tom, nobody works in the People's Republic of Jockistan.

@hardwin82 3 жыл бұрын

"you know how 6mm looks like ..." haha

@antonyporter5045 3 жыл бұрын

Hi guys what do you think of AEG power tools ,drills/impact drivers ???

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

They are a neglected brand in the U.K. They are owned by TTI and fall somewhere between Milwaukee and Ryobi.

@spanishpeaches2930 3 жыл бұрын

I have a large mains powered AEG drill. Absolute beast. Have a slightly smaller Millwaukee one...another beast.

@acciid 3 жыл бұрын

Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft. Try asking for that in your local tool shop. I've got a couple of their Sanders. They're ok.

@matthewgartell6380 3 жыл бұрын

You need water on polyurethane glue for a proper bond

@courtneykachur9487 3 жыл бұрын

What is the black stuff wrapped around the ends of the joists?

@tomsmith9048 3 жыл бұрын

A damp proof course 🔨

@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 3 жыл бұрын

Looks painfully (literally) slow and cumbersome. Squeezing out glue on your hands and knees, then screwing down on your hands and knees is a back breaker. How about some gun-applied polyurethane adhesive (1 can equals about 6-8 large tubes of subfloor adhesive = much less waste) and collated screws/screw gun to dramatically speed things up and save your back? This system is for the birds. I'd use high-quality subfloor (Huber Advantech), screw and glue and then use a pressure-sensitive acrylic tape (Siga/ProClima/3M/Zip etc) to air and water seal.

@justbreakingballs 3 жыл бұрын

Kinnell I’d imagine you would be wasted putting a floor down. You need to be working on that thing they have landed on Mars or something if that level.

@marknadin770 3 жыл бұрын

Hi fellas as im not a builder why the gap between board and block.cheers

@christaylor5291 3 жыл бұрын

Inner skin to build between joists, so flooring will eventually be 10-15mm away from inside blockwork.

@tradingplaces787 3 жыл бұрын

if u mean at the end of the joists that will usually be infilled with block once the internal course comes up.

@SandyMiller737 3 жыл бұрын

Do the joists always sit on the outside blockwork?

@handle1196 3 жыл бұрын

What was the glue name, eas it same stuff for t&g and the joist?

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

expanding polyurethane glue

@MARTINA-gc3tq 3 жыл бұрын

why are the joist ends protected with DPC when they are free floating?

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

They are built in.

@katabrontes 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder I wondered about that as well and couldn't see how they were supported. I assumed they must be sitting on something below.

@cameronhill6368 3 жыл бұрын

I’m guessing you will go back tomorrow and scrape all the glue off the joints when everything is dry???

@ilijadjujic5911 3 жыл бұрын

I tend to leave it myself but I don't know what the manufacturer recommends as I've never watched an installation video, I would say it gives a better water seal doing that

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

You have to leave the glue until the covering is peeled off then just go around with a scraper. It is made to work this way.

@cameronhill6368 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder makes sense I suppose, in NZ we tend to scrape it off 1-2 hours after it sets when doing a 2 story or add on

@daves4026 3 жыл бұрын

Regardless if the product is chipboard,and water don't mix so would get it water tight first then get the floor in

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Dave The whole poiint of this product is that you can fit it and then leave it open to the weather for a limited period.

@hendrax5889 3 жыл бұрын

On site we just screw the first row and glue the rest. No more screws.

@edwarddaniels42 3 жыл бұрын

Have to say, I'm not entirely sure the benefits of this type of deck over regular osb? Wasn't particularly well explained in the video... Likewise some of the detailing with plastic wrapped joists? A bit more explanation would be good!

@anthonydefreitas6006 3 жыл бұрын

The DPC on the ends of the joists is to prevent rot. Some companies make plastic sleeves that slip on.

@milesfinch 3 жыл бұрын

How are you supposed to be able to access anything installed under the floor later down the line?

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Miles It is the way of the world. People fit oak floors and tiles and the only way to access them is from below. There is nothing under that floor that needs looking at for the next 50 years. Cables are good, no junction boxes, pipes are continuous with no joints. What more do you need?

@milesfinch 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder Fair point.

@beverleyhadland5274 2 жыл бұрын

I notice you have used blocking between the joist, as a carpenter for 38 years something I would never recommend this practice I know this is quicker, however it is bad practice as when joists start shrinking gaps are left either end of the blocking exposing The nails and with deflection you get a squeaky floors. To keep joists from any movement the proper way is herring bone strutting Call me old fashioned but that to me is the proper practice. Great Prog

@SkillBuilder 2 жыл бұрын

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@olgajoachimosmundsen4647 3 жыл бұрын

Have Robin left SB?

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

He might do something with us from time to time but he is doing other stuff right now.

@tobsco2 3 жыл бұрын

His own channel is getting really good now if you haven't already seen it, just search Robin Clevett

@jameshurst3279 3 жыл бұрын

You’ll know you’ve found the right channel when tries to sell you something

@LH-wn1wt 3 жыл бұрын

First time installing Caber Flooring? What's with the built in joists? Masonry hangers are a far better option. I know most architects show expansion/movement joints on both skins but any builder worth their salt knows they're rarely put on the inner skin. Enjoy the videos but some parts are a tad cringe-worthy.

@justbreakingballs 3 жыл бұрын

Built in joists? That’s how it’s been done forever. How are hangers a “far” better option?

@charlieshwan5574 3 жыл бұрын

5:56 why is the gap to the wall so large?

@jimichip 3 жыл бұрын

There’s still another block to be laid in between the joists so the flooring will actually only be about 25mm from the inside block work skin.

@tinytonymaloney7832 3 жыл бұрын

Good vid that but I bet old Blagger Bodger the local builder won't be wasting time touching it up like that. He'll have taken his part payment by now an moved on 😀😀. Was that glue the same as Gorilla glue??

@jimichip 3 жыл бұрын

It’s pretty much the same glue it’s just a PU glue but we have to use the caberdek one for the warranty.

@fireblaster9961 3 жыл бұрын

Egger protect is better

@dalemalpas4960 3 жыл бұрын

Just used that for the first time cuz TP had ran out of caberfloor. I was impressed with the Egger 👍

@fireblaster9961 3 жыл бұрын

Check the spec on egger protect and why would you use anything else

@klaeLIFE 3 жыл бұрын

@@kevocos why not?

@OldDunollieman 3 жыл бұрын

lol No comparison.

@acat6821 3 жыл бұрын

Rewiring houses in 40years time isnt going to be fun for the sparks with these floors... and plumbing, essentially you will need to replace lots of floor.

@SkillBuilder 3 жыл бұрын

Piece of cake rewiring. The holes are drilled so just drag new cable through. Access holes drilled and filled Not difficult

@acat6821 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder of course, my point being it isnt as easy as floorboard, cables are clipped and pulling cables through holes blind can be dangerous because of cable burns. Im not saying it is impossible but it will be much much harder than todays rewires with the older properties... chipboard flooring is a pain today, let alone now its being glued down!

@Daniells1982 3 жыл бұрын

@@acat6821 I'm with u mate. Dropping the ceilings below will be easier. Getting the floor up in the future will destroy the joists.

@justbreakingballs 3 жыл бұрын

@@SkillBuilder that’s nonsense. Pulling cable through existing holes lol. That’s said I agree that who cares in a sense. He place is going to be wired now properly. Good for decades.