Traitor King Review #13: A Good Side to Wallis Simpson? Who Knew!

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Cheere Denise

Cheere Denise

7 ай бұрын

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@hurricaneheide
@hurricaneheide 7 ай бұрын
Churchill's concerns remind me of watching out for a misguided child and teen. It's as if he is constantly trying to look out for him as if he was his brother or even son.
@rachmunshine9474
@rachmunshine9474 7 ай бұрын
I believe he knew him since he was a young lad, so that sounds about right. Probably habit.
@partlycloudy3519
@partlycloudy3519 7 ай бұрын
I agree the duke and duchess charity work needs to be acknowledged . For once they didnt think of themselves and helped the community as best as they could
@lisalivingston6473
@lisalivingston6473 7 ай бұрын
I've always believed that sincere charitable works are best done to the benefit of the recipient and not necessarily the person participating in the charity. I often hear of the generosity of people during their funeral or memorial services as a tribute to their humanity.
@alisonboydell7143
@alisonboydell7143 7 ай бұрын
Thank you . I am so sick of the stupid endgame book . You are a Ray of sunshine
@cleverkittn
@cleverkittn 7 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to see this chapter. I was worried you were more ill than you let on, and thank you for giving it to us despite the difficulty of the holiday and health disruptions. I’m feeling as selfish as David himself in how much I was impatiently and eagerly awaiting this. 😊❤
@hildagreen7143
@hildagreen7143 7 ай бұрын
I totally agree! I live on a farm with zero reception, drive 30km to phone, catch up, download emails, do online banking and... Spoil myself with a choice of KZfaq downloads to listen to while I work the fields. And posts from Cheere are the first ones I grab!
@Pepper0077
@Pepper0077 7 ай бұрын
“Quite frankly, what the hell did we just read?”😂❤😂 I have way too vivid mind movies, so the Cruella comment made me laugh too. 😂
@meganpodesta9197
@meganpodesta9197 7 ай бұрын
Me too 😂😂😂❤
@fabulousnewt770
@fabulousnewt770 7 ай бұрын
O fantastic, spent the entire morning dealing with numpties and computer problems. Going to have some lunch, walk the dogs then come back and chill to this. I am enjoying the book so much and it's great to hear your take. Glad you are feeling better.
@vparkerrd96
@vparkerrd96 7 ай бұрын
I’ve really enjoyed learning more about the historical context of the Windsors. Thanks for reading it for us. Glad you’re feeling better, strep throat sucks.
@micheleheddane3804
@micheleheddane3804 7 ай бұрын
I do not see Queen Mary parting with any family jewellery, she was known to be very acquisitive and if gossip was true light fingered
@ginalou5774
@ginalou5774 7 ай бұрын
I’ve heard that too. She used to visit people and after she left she’d take a‘souvenir’ …usually something expensive 😂
@krishnavyas313
@krishnavyas313 2 ай бұрын
​@@ginalou5774 she didn't take them, she told them ,she liked it and good manners dictate that you should offer her if she likes to take it with her and but good manners also dictate she should say no but she always said yes
@kipscathy1850
@kipscathy1850 7 ай бұрын
None of us is all good or all bad. Remember when the Duke, as Prince of Wales, toured the Welsh coal mines and said “something must be done.” But then he abdicated when he had the chance for influence to change it. The light and darkness war within us all. Free will is a b - - tch 😊
@christinepaige2575
@christinepaige2575 7 ай бұрын
I’m probably just projecting here, but I’ve always taken Wallis’s letter to Queen Mary at face value. The awareness that I was widely regarded as an awful person would have really gotten me down after a while, and I’d have written the letter hoping to show the most influential member of the royal family that there was a side of me that was decent and sincere. I wouldn’t have expected anything in response, so Queen Mary saying “I send a kind message to your wife” would have put me clear over the moon. (I do _not_ think, though, that Queen Mary would have gifted Wallis a brooch that had belonged to Charles I, though! Good grief. Wouldn’t such a piece have been part of the Crown Jewels? 😵‍💫.
@baz7055
@baz7055 7 ай бұрын
Wow I've never imagined Wallis holding, comforting and feeding babies on a regular basis. All of us are more than we show on the surface. I've read that Sir Winston Churchill admired King George V1 greatly as he grew into his role as king, serving boldly during the war, and worked to overcome his speech impediment. They became friends. Then at his death he tutored and helped HMQE11 as she became a young queen. I think he loved them in a way and tried to reign in David so he would do less harm to the monarch and UK and the commonwealth. Kind of like a parent might reign in a wayward child so they leave less harm in their wake. Get well soon
@CarolFremel-my4hs
@CarolFremel-my4hs 5 ай бұрын
I always thought of her as EATING babies 😂
@BeBe76182
@BeBe76182 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, Cheere Denise. It was worth the read for the German who was put in a monkey cage. I laughed out loud with you. This is really needed for me right now as I am getting over ankle surgery (yesterday) for repair of fractured bones. The injury occurred Friday before last. The injury and aftermath was not nearly as painful as the repair. I ask for prayers. I have never had a fractured bone before! But it could have been worse for which I am most grateful. ❤️😊
@rachmunshine9474
@rachmunshine9474 7 ай бұрын
Feel better and try to look on the bright side (which I am well aware is much easier to say than when you’re the one in pain,) but it could always be worse is how I try to look at it. 😊 get all healed up and well soon though.
@eshiestrik2756
@eshiestrik2756 7 ай бұрын
I missed this next episode. I'm so sorry that you haven't been well ❤ Thanks for all your excellent discussion on this book.
@meganpodesta9197
@meganpodesta9197 7 ай бұрын
Churchill came from a very powerful aristocratic family. Hence his family had been monarchies for centuries. I think he was devoted to the monarchy and concerned about David causing damage to Britain and the monarchy.
@Ellie-Mae
@Ellie-Mae 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this book. Best wishes!😊😊
@marciagoodall8318
@marciagoodall8318 7 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear you were ill during Thanksgiving, it always feels worse over a holiday when family are coming doesn’t it. I remember seeing a documentary about Edward when he was Princess of Wales and he always spoke about doing something for the poor, this was the 1930s when poverty really did mean starving. However he was rather too self absorbed in his own desires to accomplish much, glad to hear he did try to do more in the Bahamas
@jomarsh6449
@jomarsh6449 7 ай бұрын
Freudian slip, there? Princess??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@marciagoodall8318
@marciagoodall8318 7 ай бұрын
@@jomarsh6449 my auto spell seems to like doing that 😂
@rachmunshine9474
@rachmunshine9474 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think he basically was so spoiled and self involved that even words of wanting to do good, though he might have wanted to mean them, were just that- talk.
@rachmunshine9474
@rachmunshine9474 7 ай бұрын
@@jomarsh6449 I saw that lol
@michelle2143
@michelle2143 7 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to see this story made into a feature film! It would be so timely with all the similarities to H&M’s traitorous actions. I really enjoy reading this with you.
@partlycloudy3519
@partlycloudy3519 7 ай бұрын
Yes yes
@merrywalsh2809
@merrywalsh2809 7 ай бұрын
I don’t know what to make of David driving into the poor neighborhoods with his car that he just drove all over the fairways, but entitled does come to mind. I also was reminded that we need to be careful judging the actions of others in another time. Boys have always loved gun play, and children in the fifties when I was a kid, loved coins, collecting, getting gifted, spending. I wonder if David saw them playing, organized them into a troupe and gave them coins purely as fun and enrichment.
@tracioneka7998
@tracioneka7998 7 ай бұрын
So glad you are feeling better & bringing us this new chapter.
@meganpodesta9197
@meganpodesta9197 7 ай бұрын
I think the duchess was all about appearances. At home, they were king and queen with all the trimmings. 👀but behind closed doors. 😅😮
@esterbengoa6077
@esterbengoa6077 7 ай бұрын
Listening to the author explain how difficult has been ger access to the information, im not surprised he talks about his sources. The interview was heartbreaking. All thise papers destroyed just because is really scary
@karenrobertson2312
@karenrobertson2312 7 ай бұрын
Good Morning! ❤
@Anna_Key
@Anna_Key 7 ай бұрын
It's possibly true Queen Mary sent Wallis a King Charles I brooch. Because KCI was beheaded! And is a great cautionary tale for Royals ever since.
@esterbengoa6077
@esterbengoa6077 7 ай бұрын
Im so happy to see you back.❤❤❤
@margaretgreenwood4243
@margaretgreenwood4243 7 ай бұрын
Cant wait for you to review Scoobie’s new book 😂
@grose2012
@grose2012 7 ай бұрын
Please do!
@meganpodesta9197
@meganpodesta9197 7 ай бұрын
Perhaps they want to convince those in power that they are capable of having a far more prestigious post or returning to the royal fold.😒😅
@angelaevans6269
@angelaevans6269 7 ай бұрын
I think it was part of his defence strategy. Churchill knew how dangerous both David and Wallis were. He had to keep them somewhat placated but also under his nose, so to speak.
@ellenmccain6740
@ellenmccain6740 7 ай бұрын
So happy you are feeling better! And happy for another chapter of this book which I find quite interesting. I know things were different then as to separation of classes, how to treat people deemed to be ‘less’. Character or lack of character sines through during perilous times. Edward and Wallis seem to know what they should do but their follow through is lacking. At their core they are selfish, self indulgent people who cannot get past their own petty wants and desires. He is quite childish. So many similarities between them and Harry and Meghan!
@christineparckys3326
@christineparckys3326 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I hope you feel better soon.
@kipscathy1850
@kipscathy1850 7 ай бұрын
Happy to have you feeling better!! (PS - Nassau is pronounced Nas’ Saw) ❤
@loubieloujones5698
@loubieloujones5698 7 ай бұрын
Thanks I never know how to say it! 😂
@jomarsh6449
@jomarsh6449 7 ай бұрын
Almost identical to the space center
@amylouise9853
@amylouise9853 6 ай бұрын
A suggestion for a future Royal to read about - HM Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother. Her public image and who she seems to have been in private are quite different
@DawnSuttonfabfour
@DawnSuttonfabfour 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Madame Cheere, glad to know you are feeling better. I feel you give us all a very entertaining read.
@lynn6221
@lynn6221 7 ай бұрын
Yes!!! Another installment of the book.
@jmoore1939
@jmoore1939 7 ай бұрын
the fact that they could show humanity makes their selfishness that much worse
@susanjacobs279
@susanjacobs279 7 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the chapter. Hope you are feeling well soon. Godspeed ❤
@pattititman1621
@pattititman1621 7 ай бұрын
Please don't lose enthusiasm for "The Traitor King" book. Our enthusiasm is dependent upon yours!
@cheeredenise
@cheeredenise 7 ай бұрын
I haven’t, I’m just being honest that there’s a lot of repetition.
@denb695
@denb695 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Cheere Denise for another thought provoking chapter . Wallis longing to be around and talking to human beings was the way the Nazis viewed people and presumably how they were able to ignore the great suffering of certain groups of people .Of course the categories of people not needed would have widened in time.
@bearessentials4383
@bearessentials4383 7 ай бұрын
Charles I was beheaded!!! A coincidence!!!
@cherylsuegaunt6693
@cherylsuegaunt6693 7 ай бұрын
Hope you’ll be well and healed soon. Sending prayers for that. Hope your holidays are happy too. Oregon, 🇺🇸
@colleenbrown3366
@colleenbrown3366 7 ай бұрын
Maybe Wallis' cold attitude was in fact grief for a life she couldn't attain, i.e. domestic bliss with a more masculine and protective husband and children of her own. Maybe.
@marguerite9605
@marguerite9605 6 ай бұрын
Get her hair done in Miami?😂😂😂😂 - center part, severe bun
@krishnavyas313
@krishnavyas313 2 ай бұрын
Winston Churchill's mother Janney, was mistress of King Edward VII (when he was prince of wales), Herbert von Bismarck(son of Otto von Bismarck), king Milan I of Serbia, Karl, 8th Prince Kinsky of Wchinitz and Tettau and Evelyn Edward Thomas Boscawen, 7th Viscount Falmouth and many more. Due to affairs timings there were rumours that Winston Churchill is illegitimate son of king Edward VII and his brother John is illegitimate son of Evelyn Edward Thomas Boscawen, 7th Viscount Falmouth but she dismissed it by saying her son are spiting image of her husband Lord Randolph Henry Spencer-Churchill. Regardless Winston has been always close to royal family and was monarchist and would 100% let any royal get away with murders or any other crimes.
@queenredspecial
@queenredspecial 7 ай бұрын
Yaaay Cheere! I was worried about you. (And going through withdrawals for my smack.) 😊
@michelegraham9044
@michelegraham9044 3 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to read something about Churchill’s life as he’s featured so heavily in this book in ways I didn’t expect at some stage in this book club of ours.
@donnajarvis9542
@donnajarvis9542 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think he was mocking the children. I think the children had fun. Growing up in Ireland children played outdoors, played soldiers, cowboys, marching, It was children playing, all in the late 40’s and 50’s. And as for throwing the real coins that is what is done at parades today, all plastic, Mardi -gra, plastic necklaces for adults, a little bit of fun. Thank you for doing all this work and sharing your insight.
@avagrego3195
@avagrego3195 7 ай бұрын
Interesting chapter, thank you. I do not understand how / why people go through their days in an alcohol haze.
@star_amie3679
@star_amie3679 7 ай бұрын
Given the fact that Charles I was beheaded, and what little I know about Queen Mary's sense of humor -I really wouldn't put it past her. Icing on the cake being, Wallis not catching the meaning, and considering it a complement.
@rachmunshine9474
@rachmunshine9474 7 ай бұрын
Happy belated Thanksgiving Cheere Denise! To you and yours! ❤
@someamericanfanofQE2
@someamericanfanofQE2 7 ай бұрын
King George VI and those exclamation points was an unexpected detail for me. Too funny. 😂😂
@Rando15
@Rando15 7 ай бұрын
This chapter was a little different, and I was surprised at Wallis becoming involved, despite the lack of people status among the poor Bahamians. Neither of them won me over. They're selfish, entitled people who don't belong anywhere.
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Cheere 👍😊 I am so sorry that you were ill. Glad to see you on the mend.
@MegPaterson2
@MegPaterson2 7 ай бұрын
I’m so happy you are feeling better now luvy and that you prioritised your family too, that is what is most important ❤ Bless you Cheere, I hope you are feeling 100% better now Xx
@gabbyb4493
@gabbyb4493 7 ай бұрын
Glad your feeling better and had a wonderful Thanksgiving with your family! We always wait with patient anticipation for your next Chapter!
@sarahjensen8095
@sarahjensen8095 7 ай бұрын
This story is so fascinating. I had no idea!
@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied
@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied 7 ай бұрын
The bathing and rocking the babies to sleep, really did touch me. Very interesting…
@judyholiday1794
@judyholiday1794 7 ай бұрын
I have been looking,and waiting for this for the last 5 days..I work crazy hours and if it doesn't appear in my notifications I miss it ..
@meraaiki6129
@meraaiki6129 7 ай бұрын
So enjoying this book! Can't wait for the new release every week!
@maxinefreeman8858
@maxinefreeman8858 14 күн бұрын
Maybe they thought it would upset the English people if Germany got David? The public didn't know about him and the Nazis. There were German U-boats all over. They sank ships all along the Atlantic seaboard from NYC to the South. They also went into the Gulf of Mexico and sank oil tankers. 😊
@vickicarreno8932
@vickicarreno8932 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really Enjoying Your Review.
@lesellen7850
@lesellen7850 7 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the book reading. Your one-line zingers are fantastic.
@hildagreen7143
@hildagreen7143 7 ай бұрын
I'm still your biggest fan! You never disappoint and I have mentioned you on many channels. Anyone who enjoys a great review, with brilliant humour should know about you! I love all your work, will let some time go by and then relisten to them all.. Not Worhy though OBVIOUSLY 😂 I admire your tenacity haha, yet you made it extremely listenable! ❤❤
@JustMe-oq9zk
@JustMe-oq9zk 7 ай бұрын
You're right. We needed this chapter
@3kidmama
@3kidmama 7 ай бұрын
I agree - it IS good to hear a bit of the "good" they tried to do for the island they were governing - even if it was done through the lens of the aristocratic viewpoint.
@lisalivingston6473
@lisalivingston6473 7 ай бұрын
My head snapped up when you mentioned someone being locked up in a monkey cage at a zoo. I really didn't see that coming. I guess David and Wallis should be grateful they never saw the inside of a monkey cage after all their treachery. I'm happy to see that you seem to be fully recovered from strep throat, Cheere Denise. Thanks for another chapter...it was worth the wait!
@meganpodesta9197
@meganpodesta9197 7 ай бұрын
Does she see them as human beings or is she like the colonialist duke? Fulfilling a fantasy that portrays her as an angel .😮
@kirbybelle8940
@kirbybelle8940 7 ай бұрын
George V’s Children might be a good read next.
@LisainNewJersey
@LisainNewJersey 7 ай бұрын
I think Wallis and David should have gone to the monkey cage. 🐒 Thanks for another great episode.
@user-hc2vd7dn7o
@user-hc2vd7dn7o 7 ай бұрын
Hi Cheeri, love your channel and its a good job I look forward to your Readings, I continually have to resubscribe over and over, I will keep do it , just letting you know,
@paulacostescu1041
@paulacostescu1041 7 ай бұрын
The queen wrote to Walis... like KC wrote to MM... crazy. Thanks for your dedication. ❤
@mrsdashwood9700
@mrsdashwood9700 7 ай бұрын
Possibly Churchill cared about David because he witnessed, first hand the severely dysfunctional environment David was exposed to. David’s Father, George V was an evil, insane, tyrant who abused his children from a very young age and Churchill saw King George for what he truly was. David also had a nut job of a nanny who abused him and Davids own Mother was cold and imo incredibly selfish, greedy beyond words and just flat out weird. It seems to me Churchill had a heart and took David’s upbringing into consideration when making decisions concerning the former King. Possibly because Churchills family life was also dysfunctional.
@partlycloudy3519
@partlycloudy3519 7 ай бұрын
Queen Mary was none of things . She did alot of charity work and started the model of charity work the todays royals do .
@jomarsh6449
@jomarsh6449 7 ай бұрын
David was never abused by the nanny…he was simpered over by her .. she abused Bert, the one who ascended the throne after the abdication ( too many George’s!)
@mrsdashwood9700
@mrsdashwood9700 7 ай бұрын
@@jomarsh6449I disagree. The nanny pinched David hard as a baby just before he was about to go in to visit his parents. Her goal was to have him crying so hard his Mother would hand him back to the nanny. The nanny might have done the same to Bertie, but not 100% sure.
@KathiLou1980
@KathiLou1980 7 ай бұрын
It is so strange that the letter writing resembles the current discussion of mm “writing KC111 and he wrote Back “ poppycock!!
@christallaktorides6904
@christallaktorides6904 7 ай бұрын
The traitor king and his wife was also the tragic king. Sometimes I feel sorry for him- he seems so lost
@lizpongratz9466
@lizpongratz9466 6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@shieldmaiden1318
@shieldmaiden1318 7 ай бұрын
That's a cute sweater! Hey is there a new Omid Scobie book that's controversial or something? I keep hearing little things about it and I'm wondering if you might cover it.
@jomarsh6449
@jomarsh6449 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@shieldmaiden1318
@shieldmaiden1318 7 ай бұрын
@@jomarsh6449 do you want to see that happen too?
@lisamcg93
@lisamcg93 7 ай бұрын
Nooooo! Do not buy that book Cheere please 🙏
@user-tt3jb2do8m
@user-tt3jb2do8m 7 ай бұрын
Their becomes a point of no return in trust, when you show yourself as often as these two. Like another couple of recent renegades. !!!!!!! 😂, like Jada and her CAPITALS.
@meganpodesta9197
@meganpodesta9197 7 ай бұрын
In a zoo😂😂😂❤
@sunfish7021
@sunfish7021 7 ай бұрын
UNLESS.......unless.... Church was playing both sides of the war. Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know.
@sunfish7021
@sunfish7021 7 ай бұрын
I have a folding chair that the United States government gave to my great Uncle Tony when they turned the beer cellar in our tavern into a bomb shelter. It says United States Civil Defense. Underneath those words stamped on the back of this chair it states that it was made in Germany, by the Kreuger Company.
@gabbyb4493
@gabbyb4493 7 ай бұрын
Could not wait for this today Cheere so I could escape the fallout from End Game! Please assure us you wont read that horrible book.
@cheeredenise
@cheeredenise 7 ай бұрын
I have no interest in looking at that trash. He’s not a good source of information. I know Harry and Meghan aren’t truth tellers, but I would rather read the lies out of their own mouths than regurgitated lies that Scobie offers us. It’s just a general waste of time.
@maxinefreeman8858
@maxinefreeman8858 14 күн бұрын
Was it Winston Churchill 's father or mother that were aristocratic?
@KathiLou1980
@KathiLou1980 7 ай бұрын
FYI. The ad for Expedia keeps showing up over the ability to leave comments. It’s irritating!
@cheeredenise
@cheeredenise 7 ай бұрын
There should be an X in the top right hand corner so you can close the ad…sorry for the inconvenience!! KZfaq’s ad policies changed and, as a creator, I don’t have any say over any of it. They put up what they want when they want to.
@janetzahner5173
@janetzahner5173 13 күн бұрын
Churchhill was gay in my appention.
@jannieannie5140
@jannieannie5140 7 ай бұрын
Please, please stop mocking our English accent.
@lisamcg93
@lisamcg93 7 ай бұрын
She’s not mocking us, she’s done voices for all the books they’re funny
@cheeredenise
@cheeredenise 7 ай бұрын
Please, please, get a sense of humor.
@jannieannie5140
@jannieannie5140 7 ай бұрын
@@lisamcg93 the voices are all mocking the way we Brits speak.
@jannieannie5140
@jannieannie5140 7 ай бұрын
@@cheeredenise I have previously, politely, explained that it is offensive to mock the way you perceive a nation speaks. I enjoy your otherwise intelligent reading.
@lisamcg93
@lisamcg93 7 ай бұрын
@@jannieannie5140 No they are not and if you feel mocked by that I’m afraid that says a lot more about you than anyone else.
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