Transforming Pain Management: Pain Reprocessing Therapy with Howard Schubiner

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Dr. Howard Schubiner discusses the link between childhood trauma and pain, as well as the brain's role in creating pain. He highlights the challenges in training healthcare professionals to understand and address mind-body pain. Dr. Schubiner introduces the symptom perception model and explains the process of pain reprocessing therapy. He emphasizes the importance of ruling out structural problems and using the FIT criteria to determine if the pain is functional, inconsistent, and triggered. This conversation explores the revolutionary data on non-structural pain and the importance of transitioning to understanding the emotional piece of chronic pain. It delves into the role of emotional awareness and expression in pain management and the challenges clinicians face in incorporating a mind-body approach. The conversation also highlights the healthcare system challenges and available resources for clinicians and patients. Finally, it discusses the future of mind-body approaches and training opportunities.
**TIMESTAMPS**
00:00 - Start
03:24 - How did Howard get to his current focus?
08:54 - Challenges we face in education of healthcare professionals
16:34 - Do clinicians need to go through a journey before they can adopt this type of approach?
18:47 - Are we overdiagnosing structural causes of pain?
31:01 - How does Howard's approach manage the emotional components of pain?
38:00 - Any concerns of crossing professional lines into psychology ?
41:06 - Barriers to utlizing this type of approach
44:04 - The struggle healthcare professionals have to make the transition to BPS practice
45:22 - Where can people seek training?
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@Hinz2005 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely wonderful. Dr. Schubiner is so approachable and explains these concepts so well. He has been kind enough to email with me. He truly cares and wants people to succeed.

@cheryl8493 3 ай бұрын

I’ll have to try reaching out to him, also. I do have spine problems, autoimmune and fibromyalgia and always wonder if it’s structural, neuroplastic, both, or a lot from my brain. I also found Dr Eleanor Stein on KZfaq. She’s from Canada, a retired psychiatrist who recovered from ME, MCS, and fibromyalgia.

@escapingbenzoozhopehelphea523 3 ай бұрын

@@cheryl8493 Lots of people have recovering from fibromyalgia and spine problems using these methods. I've read Alan Gordon's book The Way Out and have Dr. Schubiner's book ordered. I've had MEFM (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis and Fibromyalgia) for 50 years, and after over a year of practicing these methods and doing daily somatic tracking - lots of great videos on KZfaq - I'm beginning to see extraordinary improvements. I already recovered 80% from these and 3 other so-called "incurable" diseases by ignoring the doctors and listening to my body! I was disabled for 20 years, mostly housebound and bedridden, UNTIL I quit the benzos and antidepressant prescribed as standard treatment for the pain and insomnia of fibro, but was told they too were "incurable". By facing the trauma and emotional repression that caused them - I recovered 80% and got my life back! But a series of inescapable stresses caused a relapse - which I'm healing from now. With the help of mind/body work, I hope to heal 100% this time - as so many have, even those who've had it like me for decades! It's exciting, and I wish you well in your journey.

@elainehewitt6813 3 ай бұрын

@@cheryl8493Fibro is ABSOLUTELY neuroplastic in origin! Consider childhood trauma/abuse.

@sweetmountainbaby 2 ай бұрын

Hi ,how long did it take to answer your email ? I sent him 2 about 2 weeks ago . Thank you

@ModernPainPodcast Ай бұрын

@@Hinz2005 Glad to hear you’re getting the help you need

@OldPain2GoStevenBlake 8 күн бұрын

Schubiner does great work and it aligns with OldPain2Go concepts.

@elainehewitt6813 3 ай бұрын

Eloquent articulate young man with a timely message. Very nice. Thank you!

@ModernPainPodcast 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@NE-pz4ku 2 ай бұрын

It is the letting go of the anger after imagining f-ing someone up that isn't so easy. The mindbody doesn't believe me when I say I have let it go, the anger is still there.

@ModernPainPodcast 2 ай бұрын

Sorry you’re dealing with that. Hope you’re getting the help and guidance you deserve

@totaltherapysolutions 4 ай бұрын

Great episode. Watched the full thing.

@ModernPainPodcast 4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@cherylputman7645 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic interview with Dr. Schubiner. Glad I listened all the way through. “Walk a little bit with joy. Walk 5 steps with joy.”

@ModernPainPodcast 4 ай бұрын

@@cherylputman7645 Thanks! Howard was a great interview!

@sweetmountainbaby 9 күн бұрын

Hi are you looking for participates for the PRT study this summer ?

@ModernPainPodcast 8 күн бұрын

I would go to Howard's website and message him there to see. Best of luck!

@ameliabaldwin4549 4 ай бұрын

The background music is a little off putting but i persevered and really appreciated the input. I am trying to find a way to treat my chronic pain and this sounds very interesting and realistic..

@ModernPainPodcast 4 ай бұрын

Glad you made it past the music. Glad you stuck around and found some value. THanks for watching!

@escapingbenzoozhopehelphea523 3 ай бұрын

@@ModernPainPodcast Loved the interview, but too found the music challenging. So many of us with pain issues are highly sensitive people, and easily bothered by jangly music - which is why somatic tracking videos have soothing wave sounds or soft music. Yours was peppy and journalistic, I see the appeal, but too preferred the podcast. Great interview, insightful questions, and many thanks! I'll keep watching. And tell us more about yourself! You had info on Dr. Schubinar but nothing here on your own experience and background.

@Truerealism747 3 ай бұрын

@@escapingbenzoozhopehelphea523yes for sure found out I have asperger's reason to have TMS

@songs-rj4qh 2 ай бұрын

this is great but some of these assaults on our emotions happen EVERYDAY also imaginary practice of saying what you'd really like to say and get really angry with the people that deserve it we dont get that actual opportunity so that imaginary thing isn't very satisfying anonymous letter writing can be good or when you dont have anything to lose write a scathing letter to that awful person. as for pain perpetrated on others people who were victims it can be very upsetting to live with that the injustices. and finally most people do not want to be sat down face to face eye to eye and tell others how they have been unfair or rude or mean or cruel. Few people would go along with that. All this said it was a wonderful discussion thank you!

@ModernPainPodcast Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@joesedlacek7552 Ай бұрын

How do you find a clinician? I’m interested in finding one in Cleveland, but don’t know where to look.

@ModernPainPodcast Ай бұрын

@@joesedlacek7552 I would google pain reprocessing therapy and use their find a provider search

@natkay9994 Ай бұрын

I believe Howard has a website called freedom from chronic pain and there is "find a practitioner" on there I think

@elainehewitt6813 3 ай бұрын

Our health care system is so F ed up in bed with shitty insurance companies that a lot of docs who really want to help people do it out of pocket so they don’t’ have to deal with all of it thereby reducing the number of people who can pay for such services. I’m spending savings at 74 to get good folks to do this with me. 🤷‍♀️

@ModernPainPodcast 3 ай бұрын

I’m sorry you’re dealing with this. Our system is definitely broken

@terriewood2735 Ай бұрын

I can resonate with the doctor that committed suicide. I have felt that way but I do believe in the mind body approach and have experienced relief from back pain for a good period of time but it is back now with a vengeance and I am really suffering. There are no practitioners where I live. I need help. Where can I get it?

@ModernPainPodcast 26 күн бұрын

You may see if there are practitioners doing virtual care through them. I’m happy to recommend someone who may not be certified through them but quality clinician