Transparent FDM 3D Prints are Clearly Stronger!

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Using a special parameter, you can't only print transparent FDM 3D prints - this parameter will also make your parts super strong!
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:24 3D Printing Transparent in Resin
02:35 Transparent FDM printing
05:25 Flow Multiplier
06:32 Extrusion Temperature
07:39 Why are regular prints not transparent
08:38 Part Cooling
09:15 Print Speed
10:10 Sponsored Section
11:42 Static Strength Tests
15:18 Impact Strength
16:05 Conclusion
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@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

What applications do you see for transparent FDM 3D prints? Are you just looking for clarity or are you excited about the strength?

@TGG141 Жыл бұрын

I’d say if you are doing a model of a house or something with a window, you could use it for that

@NurettinSevdik Жыл бұрын

Making lenses for lasers, some lighting system etc.

@honroy1950 Жыл бұрын

this would be sick for a beetleweight combat robot

@jaychimera372 Жыл бұрын

annealing the transparent 3d prints ? maybe it helps with the clarity ? if 100% infill was used also maybe try upping the flow rate to compensate the tiny air bubbles?

@joemulkerins5250 Жыл бұрын

Machine safety guards is my main application anyway.

@Spartacusse Жыл бұрын

I guess this just confirms what we already knew, for better layer adhesion, print slow, print hot and avoid gaps, the clear filament is just better in showing how good of a job you did on those settings.

@haraldhimmel5687 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I made similar experiences printing vases in PC. I guess with a heated chamber faster speeds yield comparable results to said 15 mm/s.

@1SmokedTurkey1 5 ай бұрын

@@haraldhimmel5687how fast are you printing?

@ipodtouchiscoollol 2 ай бұрын

I wonder if the lack of contaminants such as pigments in clear filaments also contribute to stronger bonds between layers

@defan123321 15 күн бұрын

@@ipodtouchiscoollol Здравствуй. Я видел сравнение характеристик пластика с пигментами и без. Пластик без пигментов на тех видео обладал лучшими свойствами и прочностью.

@ipodtouchiscoollol 15 күн бұрын

@@defan123321 me no speak ruski me no understand

@legofreak5769 Жыл бұрын

I'm kind of wondering if you could vary extrusion width extremely finely to create holographic effects within the glassy print

@kaihorstmann2783 Жыл бұрын

No way. This would require modulation in the range of the wave length of visible light, i.e. fractions of micrometers.

@GamMngitSssEmoTionaL5953 Жыл бұрын

@@kaihorstmann2783 It's wouldn't be impossible but it would be very very expensive to do and would probably need a one of one state of the art 3D printer to the nano scale ✌️

@gonun69 Жыл бұрын

@@kaihorstmann2783 I think he meant deliberately creating small voids to create a 3D "holographic" structure in a clear part. Like those plastic cubes they sometimes sell at fairs with 3D "images" inside.

@Juiceboxer0 Жыл бұрын

could be done. You'd have to have tiny voids or bubbles in the model

@legofreak5769 Жыл бұрын

@@gonun69 those little plastic cubes are exactly what i was imagining

@shirothehero0609 Жыл бұрын

(side note on the yellowing: using a UV blocking overcoat helps significantly with the yellowing.) This is really excellent for making 'optics'. While you're not going to get a perfect TIR lens, this will get you 90% there for prototyping and diy flashlights and fiber optic and light pipes for light transmission for indicator LEDs or models, etc. Rad stuff.

@fischdl73 Жыл бұрын

Which one do you recommend? I've used krylon transparent uv resistant and it's been in the Florida sun for a year with only a little yellowing.

@tachywubdub2469 Жыл бұрын

I was personally wondering how foggy something like glasses would turn out (to the human eye) with these

@shirothehero0609 Жыл бұрын

@@tachywubdub2469 ya know, I don't know if foggy would be the issue as much as the distortion from surface irregularities. BUT - if you put enough elbow grease into it and if the interior is fully bonded, you can get an almost perfect lens.

@tobins6800 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if polishing, applying uv protection, then further polishing, refilling imperfections with uv protectant, and further polishing. Rinse lather repeat.

@MiGujack3 Жыл бұрын

This is yellowed car headlights all over again.

@andreasthaler7068 Жыл бұрын

My best transparent prints are done with a 0.8 Nozzle and 0.4 mm layerheight. In my opinion: thicker layers -> higher transparency. But we have to try more. ;)

@Thomas0 Жыл бұрын

I had my best results with a .4 nozzle going down to .05 layer height.

@roxasparks Жыл бұрын

I use .6

@rileyneufeld7001 Жыл бұрын

That's likely due to there being less inter-bonding layer gaps since each layer is taller so it can't refract light as much.

@SHIFTHOLDER1 Жыл бұрын

Same here, using PC filament. There also seems to be an effect where bubbles are mostly present at the start of each line, then disappearing along it, regardless of nozzle size. Maybe it is possible to start each line slowly and then speed up. I do wonder why this happens though. I believe that air gets into the nozzle after each line ends, especially when stringing or drooping during the travel. No idea how to test this theory though, since this would require a transparent nozzle....

@ALex-qc4lf Жыл бұрын

The issue with thick layers is mostly that you get a bigger rounded edge on the Extrusion which leaves much more space for potential bubbles. With thin layers the holes underneath the rounded end of the Extrusion are much smaller leaving less air gaps. Thicker extrusions help a lot to and thicker layers do too to a degree if you can remelt the previous Extrusion on time.

@AlphaPhoenixChannel Жыл бұрын

My jaw hit the floor after like 15 seconds when the vertical test sample necked and the rest of the video did not disappoint - awesome stuff! I've been playing with mirrors instead of lenses because I figured this was impossible!

@AlphaPhoenixChannel Жыл бұрын

Also for my mirror samples, I've been printing them almost vertical so that I minimize the effect of layer steps after smoothing. what do you think about printing your lenses vertically? (other than taking forever, I'm curious about the accuracy of the final shape)

@BRUXXUS Жыл бұрын

I saw a wild test print on Thingiverse a few years ago to a challenge print a solid cube with a sphere hole in the center. The image made it look totally transparent. I followed the instructions, although they suggested a lot of sanding and polishing, which I did, it came out pretty much transparent! Big thing I learned here was to align all the infill lines. Can’t wait to try it!

@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын

This was a super helpful video. First of all, the fact that those bubbles are so visible and due to poor drying really helps to reinforce that drying the filament matters... I didn't really consider drying my PETG in the past because I conflated "water proof" with not retaining much water. Now I see that PETG can be both water proof and also retain moisture... and the proof is in the bubbles. (Thanks for showing that). The fact that the parameters that improve transparency also improve the strength of the print is also really amazing. Thank you again!

@jayphone1 Жыл бұрын

Again one of the "Stefan and the Quest for the Holy Grail" Videos which I like most. 🙏 Thanks. I once used this method with transparent PP filament which also gave excellent transparent results and almost isotropic properties. I smoothed the part by "shock heating" (how I called it) the surface with a heat gun on 500°C . This quickly melted just the surface to a liquid state but kept the part integrity. By some kind of surface tension this totally smoothed out the layer lines and the part looked injection molded afterwards. Hope this helps in future endeavors. It might also help with vertical impact strength because besides molecular orientation the surface roughness also might have it's "impact" on those results.

@jayphone1 Жыл бұрын

@@user-io4sr7vg1v Thanks. 🤗

@gonun69 Жыл бұрын

This looks really interesting. I recently switched to a 0.6mm nozzle and printed some parts with a blue-transparent PETG filament. I was surprised that they looked much more transparent than parts I've printed with almost the same settings on a 0.4 mm nozzle. I guess that makes sense as the extrusion width is greater, leading to fewer boundaries. With the new Arachne slicer engine, bigger nozzles could be very interesting to achieve more transparent prints. A while back I read from someone that he achieved more transparent parts by ironing every layer, although that sounds like it would take forever. But it might be worth it for just the top layers.

@dgkimpton Жыл бұрын

This matches my experience too - wider extrusions + thicker layers + higher temps + more perimeter/infill overlap seemed to help with clarity. I usually print at 20 or 30mm/s so not a lot to say there. I think the key is as Stefan hinted - as few transition boundaries as possible and making them as solid/complete as possible where they do occur.

@UNSCPILOT Жыл бұрын

You might be going the right direction with this, at least to speed it up, with a wide nozzle and good heading you could probably maintain the results with better speed or get better results for low detail parts at similar speeds, course bigger nozzles will struggle with finer detail as a cost

@r2d2fish38 Жыл бұрын

0.6mm nozzle with 0.2mm layer height has extremely good properties. The layer lines are still there but feel more like a texture than full bumps in the part

@jonatanboy 10 ай бұрын

Even with a 0.4 nozzle i’m certain that the effect of the light refracting is much less apparent in pigmented transparent filaments. Printed some transparent yellow recently, went a bit hot, took it slow, and i Can almost read through it in like a size 15’ish font

@MrPodushka 2 ай бұрын

How does stringing and oozing look on that nozzle?

@derickschmidt6957 Жыл бұрын

We use a lot of these same parameters to make prosthetic sockets as strong and clear as possible. The main difference is that we use large nozzles to go with our big parts. I usually go for layer heights up to 1.0mm as opposed to something like 0.6mm not necessarily for speed (added benefit though!) but because it creates less light refraction opportunities and we can see through the sockets pretty well, especially when looking at them straight on through the layers.

@dtibor5903 Жыл бұрын

I started 3d printing 1 year ago, and I quickly realised that transparent PETG is much more stronger than opaque ones. Now I have a lot of slightly colored transparent PETG filaments from Devildesign, and i'm really happy with the results for functional parts. Still it is not strong as ABS, it is way more brittle, but much convenient for printing in an apartment. I print with absolutely normal settings at 50-80mm/s on ender 3v2 w volcano, just the extrusion multiplier is raised with 5-10%. Usually I don't care to be perfectly tranparent.

@thegribbs Жыл бұрын

I don't hear about many people using the stuff, but Devil Design has the nicest PETG I've worked with. Very consistent, and flows nicely. I print it no slower than 150mm/s, pushing past 200mm/s when I need something done quickly. Nice colours too.

@dtibor5903 Жыл бұрын

@@thegribbs especially the galaxy colours looks quite good, great for toys!

@mocmaniac1571 Жыл бұрын

Honestly I can't wrap my head around the quality of your videos. This is outstanding ! The amount of research, trial and error to find the best settings is amazing. Greetings from Belgium

@spedi6721 Жыл бұрын

Testing bigger nozzles might be interesting. Especially CHT nozzles.

@thedamnone Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing CHT would be worse for transparency, because of the split path. PETG beats into a foam, like egg whites, so you don't want to disturb it with fast retractions, high E-acceleration or split nozzles.

@Balorng Жыл бұрын

@@thedamnone it does not - flow stays laminar. Cnc kitchen already tested that.

@spedi6721 Жыл бұрын

@@thedamnone as you said.... You are guessing. We will know it for sure if someone will test it. I do have a 1.4mm CHT and clear PETG at home, but I'm not feeling confident doing the test and everything correct

@ilikewaffles3689 Жыл бұрын

@@spedi6721 already tested my guy

@joemulkerins5250 Жыл бұрын

What excellent timing for me with this video. I need to make safety guards for abrasive polishers in a medical device company i am work for. I have the designs made and PETG and 3d printing will be acceptable. However i was about to abandon the idea it was not transparent enough for the operators. I am now going back to the drawing board! 😁 And Wow, the layer adhesion there is something i have never seen but only with pp. Thanks very much Stefan. From Ireland.

@jessehavok4181 Жыл бұрын

I was on a quest to print clear parts 2 years ago and discovered that it's a very good way to calibrate your settings as well since it's a sure fire way to see if your layers are properly bonding as they should be.

@animatorgeek Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video! I've been experimenting with transparent prints lately and I also appreciate its value for both strength and impermeability.

@Incendium87 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if strength or even internal clarity could be even further increased by combining this with the technique that I think you explored awhile ago of packing the printed part in salt and reheating it.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

It probably would and PETG was a very good candidate for that.

@BFManticore Жыл бұрын

I have tried it, spending about two weeks working on it and I ended up with nicely transparent prints with accurate dimensions to get rid of bubbles for salt remelting. Turns out that once I got layer adhesion that good, there was no need for salt remelting. Feel free to test it of course, but the improvement in terms of strength will be likely unnoticeable and for me not worth the extra work and time of a salt melt, which has a decent failure rate depending on the object's shape.

@FilamentStories Жыл бұрын

This was so much fun to watch! Thanks for the detailed research into the specific functionalities of FDM printed parts.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@loom4k Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! It's really interesting to see that such simple change within the settings and using the same filament can bring such visual but also technical improvements. I love this channel!

@jaredkrivin6204 Жыл бұрын

This is something I've been curious about for a long time, it makes sense that the parts are stronger given the adhesion is better but it's more impressive to actually see the results of the tests, thanks Stefan! I might just have to try this out for my own stuff.

@LambdaDriven Жыл бұрын

There's a really cool parallax effect you can get by printing a couple layers of PETG flat with perpendicular infill. I used it to create holiday tree ornaments that play with light in some really interesting ways. Printed hot and slow with esun translucent green PETG

@tronique5736 Жыл бұрын

You could try printing a dyed version of the material with the same settings and use strength testing to compare. If the presence of dye changes the behavior then you can see a clear difference in the strength and failure behavior. Another idea is to use a sensitive light detector to measure the light transmission of less transparent samples. Shine a bright light (of well know brightness) through a thin sample and measure the light intensity on the other side. Higher measurement on the sensor means higher clarity, and thus stronger parts!

@BFManticore Жыл бұрын

So glad you finally did a video on this... I can attest to just how well this works. I have been using settings similar to this after working towards transparent prints just like this video, and I haven't had a print break along a layer line in 2 years (or around the time the salt melt got popular - my progress towards these settings was to fill up the melt cavity more fully). Even with heavy usage items like fencing sword grips, small protrusions printed along the z axis will break across all the layers, with cracking instead of layer splitting. Admittedly, my prints are a bit slower, but the true bonding between layers allows me to use them in higher-stress scenarios where injection-molded durability is expected. It also makes design notably easier when you don't have to constantly think about which way the part will be printed and which axes will be weak.

@amarissimus29 Жыл бұрын

I bought several kilograms of HT a few years ago specifically for this purpose. Mostly making small windows and light pipes for LEDs. Never quite got to the transparency I was going for, even with minimal layers. I'll check out some of these tweaks; it looks like I've got more room to improve than I thought. Well done, as usual. Thanks.

@rileyneufeld7001 Жыл бұрын

Printing like this and then salt remelting it with ultra fine salt would make some glass clear prints! You would have to sand and polish the outer surface however.

@dn275 Жыл бұрын

For me the transparency is a secondary feature, the more interesting outcome here is the layer bonding. A few thoughts that I have: Would printing in an enclosure allow for faster print speed? Because the printed part temperature is higher it needs less time to heat up enough to bond with freshly extruded material. To improve bridging, cooling could be enabled only during bridge features. A comparison of extrusion width would be interesting. I think this would have a huge impact. Parts would finish faster and could have even better bonding. Great videos as always! I really enjoy these investigations.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Printing in an enclosure might help a bit but will cause on the other hand cooling problems with the PETG again.

@dwkaolawdjwdkaoakl1570 Жыл бұрын

amazing work as usual! i print many parts in clear PETG. no application specific just because it looks cool. awesome how you even got more transparent!

@StephenByersJ Жыл бұрын

Wow. Watching those samples yield is pretty incredible!

@joscha9201 Жыл бұрын

There is this experiment where you can see internal stresses in acrylic glass over polarized light while bending or other stress. I wonder if that is also possible with the clear prints it should be quite interesting if it works because of the inhomogenity

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Good point!

@lezyne1234 Жыл бұрын

I recently noticed when printing with transparent PLA, that layer adhesion was much better than coloured PLA. When i printed parts in different colors and I almost couldn't remove supports of the transparent ones, when the coloured ones just broke off easily.

@dtibor5903 Жыл бұрын

If you want the strongest materials, always avoid black, they are the worst, natural color is the strongest. Slightly colored tranparent ones are good too

@SianaGearz Жыл бұрын

@@dtibor5903 Black can be plenty strong, since relatively little pigment is needed to absorb a lot of light, but also sometimes you get repigmented regrind and other shit, it can be difficult to trust. White has a scary amount of pigment, since the pigment is transparent. Highly opaque light colours can have that same issue. The absolute worst is silk PLA, that's got little rubbery bits of filler to make it behave this way, and just doesn't bond well at all.

@dtaggartofRTD Жыл бұрын

pigments can have a huge effect on the properties of a material. Back when I was into knot tying, I came across some research that found pigments in the nylon fibers of the rope could affect tensile strength by as much as 30%. If adhesion and tensile strength are a priority, unpigmented is generally the way to go.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Should investigate that at some point!

@rkatz69 Жыл бұрын

@@SianaGearz it really depends on the manufacturer tbh as to how much the pigment will impact the strength

@ArtLieberman Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Your research with transparent printing is Super Helpful!

@ThatJay283 Жыл бұрын

thanks! i've printed with a 0.8mm nozzle with a layer height of 0.2mm, and i got really great results

@stevenclark2188 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if slicer modding to interlace fill paths every other layer (with a slight reduction in layer height?) could also help make prints more monolithic like this by directly filling voids in the previous layer.

@piranha1337 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, or what's with layer ironing for each layer?

@finlaygreenaway193 Жыл бұрын

Would take ages though

@robcauson4595 Жыл бұрын

Weirdly enough, I wondered the same thing last night. I've been asked to make a model of a part of a homing missile's guidance system and it needs a translucent window, and I was idly wondering about ways to print that rather than doing the easy thing and just using acrylic or whatever.

@stevenclark2188 Жыл бұрын

@@finlaygreenaway193 It might come with slightly faster speeds as it would require less smooshing. It's still the same amount of plastic so who knows? Maybe it just averages out the same.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Very good point, though that might require half width extrusions at the start of every other layer. Maybe just varying extrusion with on every other layer might be something that's very easy to implement.

@maximthemagnificent Жыл бұрын

A related topic I've been interested in is 3D printed diffusers for LED light strips that are customized for the actual strips so can perhaps do a better job evening out the light than off-the-shelf uniform diffusers.

Жыл бұрын

I find that unlikely, but it's still very useful having custom diffusers!

@wayne6318 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stefan, I can see this being used for "dust shrouds" on a CNC Router, where you can see the cutting bit. Well Done

@sofronio. Жыл бұрын

I saw the how to print glass on printable also. And what you did extra in the video really opens another door. Looking forward for more dive deep info.

@AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын

I have recently been printing clear crystals that I light up with an LED RGB puck, I found that differing temperatures and layer heights helped with clearer parts although they seemed to light up better with a frosting effect acheived with higher temps in PLA.

@cesarplaton8284 Жыл бұрын

Can you make a video baking these pieces in salt to see how clear they get? You will probably have to polish them after baking but I think the result would be spectacular.

@VV-om8vv 4 ай бұрын

This was very useful thank you very much. I just “graduated” from PLA to PETG and I think translucent is a really cool benefit of the material.

@DEtchells Жыл бұрын

Wow, great work and very interesting! As you said, another small but significant step forward for stronger parts 👍

@Freysn Жыл бұрын

Very interesting! As a skateboarder I noticed that the wheels which are colored wear off faster than the uncolored ones. I assume that the color particles weaken the material.

@cho4d Жыл бұрын

6:36 pro english tip - where you were stressing the end part fifTEEN and fifTY (because they sound similar) we would normally do the same for fifteen but then instead stress the FIF part of fifty. idk if this is a real rule but it sounds better this way to my ear anyway.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

👌 appreciated

@jonwebb9261 Жыл бұрын

This was very impressive and surprising! What incredible layer adhesion. I'd love to achieve anything near that on a normal PETG print!

@B0tch0 Жыл бұрын

I just started printing brackets last week and I struggled figuring out the right settings. Thank you for your video, it came out with a perfect timing ☺️

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@MMuraseofSandvich Жыл бұрын

Now I'm curious as to whether _lenses_ can be made this way. I'd imagine clear polycarbonate would be insanely hard to print, but I bet it would be incredibly good if one could get it printed completely solid and in roughly a lens shape that could then be polished and vapor smoothed. This would definitely be a place where a dedicated drybox would be ideal in addition to the filament dryer.

@paulstrealer5414 Жыл бұрын

PC is pretty handy to print with. It wants an enclosure, and to print a little hotter than a stock ender 3 can print (metal hotend is enough). I get good results with an unheated enclosure, 270c nozzle, 80c bed (covered in kapton tape).

@jimurrata6785 Жыл бұрын

I was seeing fresnel lenses as soon as I saw the thumbnail. It's an interesting thing to consider.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

If you get PC to properly print it's also a great contestant! But dry it! Bed adhesion can be tackled with Magigoo PC or similar.

@shirothehero0609 Жыл бұрын

You absolutely can make a lens like this. The surface and voids are the biggest problem for home lens creation, imo. using a wet sand method coupled with a UV inhibitor clear coat in a couple layers can do AMAZING things. Enough elbow grease post processing and you can create excellent TIR like lenses or at least a lens close enough to a cast or molded in lens to work well for prototyping and small production where true optical clarity isnt a necessity.

@abrahamahmed9445 Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see if annealing these parts has an impact on transparency. I'd also be interested to see if there is a relationship between layer adhesion and loss of coherence during annealing.

@BTom16 Жыл бұрын

This channel is the best 3d printing information on the Internet. Thank you.

@denvermatt Жыл бұрын

I love this, I've been screwing around with clear tpu for awhile so I rushed out and bought the filament you recommended.

@NemecJiri Жыл бұрын

When I did your max flow tests on my printers, I noticed that on CHT nozzles there is no underextrusion at all for a long time, while on a regular V6 nozzle from very low flow there is already a slight underextrusion and this can cause worse transparency and strength. I would also be quite interested to know what effect changing the hotend to hight-flow or ultra-high flow would have on the print speed. Maybe then it would be possible to maintain reasonable speeds.

@Balorng Жыл бұрын

A CHT volcano would likely allow you to print wide lines, high layers AND pretty fast, too... ok, maybe not latter. I suspect that there is "ironing" effect from nozzle conducting heat into the part, ensuring that plastic is fully melted as it is deposited, AND previous layer also melts and fully fuses with one you are printing. For best "ironing" effect you want a very large outer diameter "flat" on the nozzle with normal-sized hole. This way you'll be able to print "almost isotropic" parts considerably faster, at the cost of print melting if you print high details at slow speed.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Good point! Might be worth investigating.

@buidawill Жыл бұрын

Could the extra static load performance in the XY samples come from the alignment of all infill in the direction of the load? Would the same gains be seen if all infill was oriented perpendicular to the loading direction?

@jessicav2031 Жыл бұрын

Excellent point! I would certainly be concerned about this. There are now two weak axes, not one, even if "weak" is not as bad as usual.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

The infill in the test section was oriented along the loading axis for both samples (I used 6 perimeters), so there shouldn't be a huge difference.

@rileyneufeld7001 Жыл бұрын

Having your layers perpendicular is always going to hurt strength and performance. But that's the beauty of 3d printing, aligning your infill and Z direction make parts essentially as strong as injection molded ones.

@Kyrazlan Жыл бұрын

Those results are incredible.

@whoguy4231 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating ... Thank You ... Now got to go buy some clear Petg!!!

@muchtall Жыл бұрын

I'm curious if the impact performance could be improved through either annealing or salt re-melting.

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I didn't test that last time. Will include these specimens in the next test series.

@--JYM-Rescuing-SS-Minnow Жыл бұрын

thanks again Stephan 4 this helpful video!!good luck!!

@casadioDesign Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for that video! I'll for sure try that settings on my 3D printed Ford Bronco replica and on the future projects!

@roscocsa Жыл бұрын

I keep wondering if there is a way to use a low powered laser to re-melt a previous layer just before, or as the nozzle lays down the current layer.

@BrazenRain Жыл бұрын

FDM printer with an SLS laser

@cesarplaton8284 Жыл бұрын

I share your thoughts about the Laser but that will only influence the adhesion between layers and the printing speed. The problem in optics is the empty spaces and the only thing that solves it is the baking, but first the impression has to be as good as the one achieved in this video. Great job by the way!!!!

@roscocsa Жыл бұрын

@@BrazenRain Exactly. Tricky though with how many different directions a print head moves.

@Gejuch2233 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if you came across my projects, that I think are extremely good in terms of transparency, if not even the best, especially the cube, that I've designed. I was researching and testing this topic over half a year

@retromodernart4426 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, you just got me to subscribe after I looked at your channel.

@Gejuch2233 Жыл бұрын

@@retromodernart4426 Thanks, though I'm not sure when I will upload the next video

@retromodernart4426 Жыл бұрын

@@Gejuch2233 No problem, what you already did is great!

@CNCKitchen Жыл бұрын

Great work! Can you share more information on your process?

@Gejuch2233 Жыл бұрын

@@CNCKitchen I'm glad You liked it. It was over a two years ago, but as I described on Thingiverse page, to achieve this kind of transparency are needed some quirks, and tips. First of all to be clear, that is not how it came exactly from the printer, but I've polished all sides(but from bottom, and mostly from top, are close to the end product). Layer lines should be really small and I was recommending 0.03mm. Flow rate was above 100%, more like 102%, but as You said in your video it depends. Infill type was actually Rectilinear, and infill overlap was around 6%. I did use for all parts, clear PETG, that was beforehand dried pretty long. Temperature was at lowest as manufacture said, and sometimes below that, usually around 210C. Bed temperature was 80/90C. No cooling, but with diamond model, I did use some minimal cooling because of overhangs. And last but not least printing speed was around 24mm/s. In this printing technic retraction is turned off, and pretty much it can print mostly simple objects, at least on the surface, due to need for sanding and polishing. Also printing times were horrible. For example for printing 15x15x15mm cube, it took around 8h to print. And also printing parameters, especially flow rate mostly depended on model. Bed levelling was also crucial, and must be on spot, otherwise print will not succeeded. First I was trying to test it myself, but when I did show results to company that produced that filament, I get some kind of verbal agreement, that I will do more testing and send them(I've also tried their unique filament "Lucent PLA"). But due to time, and that this technik is not reliable enough I've stopped. Summarizing. Lower layer height, printing cooler, flow up to 102%, no retraction, infill overlap around 6%, Rectilinear infill pattern, and mostly ideal calibration of print bed. Then only hours of sanding and polishing, and voilà. So it's only valuable for prearticular cases. Type of printing, that You showed is much more user friendly, and can be used for cases where my method doesn't have sense, though I'm not sure how strong parts are from my side, I didn't really w as think of that back then, but I assume they are close to truly solid. If something is unclear just ask, I will be happy to answer, though I'm not sure if there is anything else to say :) Kindest regards

@finlay9260 Жыл бұрын

I was LITERALLY starting to experiment with glass-like printing a couple of days ago. Good timing!

@Gararrad08 Жыл бұрын

SWIM is used to printing receivers at 0.1mm 100% infill already, so hearing someone else share the pain of the price of quality is kinda comforting.

@braver1234 Жыл бұрын

Just use a resin printer if you need transparent parts!

@braver1234 Жыл бұрын

Great work! I'd really like you to try and print optics with this setup

@joemulkerins5250 Жыл бұрын

Resin is too brittle, especially for my application. It would shatter and explode all over my employees faces if I tried. So there you go.

@NathanBuildsRobots Жыл бұрын

Wow, this is really impressive work. I will have to try this out.

@RegularOldDan Жыл бұрын

Fantastic analysis, as usual. I appreciate you trying this out - as soon as I saw this suggestion in the Printables suggestions, I thought it would be interesting. I was concerned that aligned rectilinear might cause weaknesses along the edges of the aligned infill, but it appears the effect is not at all an issue. Cool!

@FullEarthWorkshop 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic segment!

@CorDawgYT Жыл бұрын

I have an Ender 3 S1 and I was impressed with some clear TPU that I have used. TPU printing is awesome.

@adog3129 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info! Printing shavings drawers for pencil sharpeners

@UFJoy Жыл бұрын

this vid is a blessing! Thanks a lot. I need to print the most invisible plastic stripe. This really helps

@Nolano386 Жыл бұрын

Great work as always. I've been playing with this lately as well. this information will be helpful. If you ever feel like it, I'd love to see some wear resistance tests. It's a thing I've been pondering lately.

@doctorpropain8902 Жыл бұрын

What I found most fascinating about this is that an exploration that started out for aesthetic reasons (pretty see-through parts) ended up having mechanical implications as well.

@mildmannered1086 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your hard work

@Nekomakesnoisesagain Жыл бұрын

I’ve just realised this was released only 19h ago. You’re faster than my thoughts! Keep up the good work!!

@anystrap404 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for Stefan, this was REALLY neat to see and I'm excited for all the potential! You putting out great ideas like this to the world is awesome because it introduces a new line of thinking to so many makers out there. The parameters and settings you're using for this remind me almost exactly of what I do to get functional strong "rubber" straps when printing with flexible filaments like NinjaFlex, which is kind of my passion with 3D printing. I print very slow and with 100% infill or more to ensure there are voids and weak spots within a TPU print. I'm excited to try what you showed in this video with the clear filament I have sitting around. =]

@adambarlev8992 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

@MoralRichMedia Жыл бұрын

This will be great for making light pipes, thanks.

@mattsmith4843 Жыл бұрын

just the info i am looking for, big thanks!!!!

@macswanton9622 Жыл бұрын

We count on your work as the highest standard for reliable and accurate data for linking home and business. The global community thanks you

@qdmc12 Жыл бұрын

I love this! I've been using similar parameters for testing with clear PLA. I will adjust my params with these new findings and apply to PLA. :)

@Stampy36 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the data. You should try baking it (like strength baking) hopefully help the clear look as well.

@tablatronix Жыл бұрын

wow this is old, nice to see it revisited and still valid

@chitownbangin Жыл бұрын

Someone FINALLY covers this, the pigment vs. transparency difference in strength.

@LonersGuide Жыл бұрын

Great point about the polymer chains.

@jellyfish1433 Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait to see what is in store for the future of 3D printing! Of of the fun parts about 3D printing is all the engineers from different fields that use them and can find flaws and fixes as they work with them on projects. When you have a ton of engineers in a hobby, things seem to progress pretty steadily. With the changes to 3D printing in just the last 5 years, it makes me excited to see what is to come in 10-15 years down the road! Who knows, 3D printing with metal might actually become obtainable for hobby makers without using metal impregnated plastics

@chrisholmquist7725 2 ай бұрын

Just recently got into 3D printing and I've been consuming a lot of your videos lately! One thought... after all these years of tests, it would be great to see a video that summarizes all of the most successful techniques and methods to improve "strength" for a given filament. Finally, it would be great to see what this Übermethode produces in terms of measurable results. Thanks for all your hard work!

@CodyTaylor115 Жыл бұрын

Super cool while transparency is a really cool goal the strength results are far more practical and useful

@isorobot 10 ай бұрын

I’ve printed transparent PP tubes for model rockets for quite some time, I use them as examples demonstrating the strength of 3DP parts. They are incredibly strong for a single wall thickness with a .8 nozzle

@LarryPfeffer Жыл бұрын

Pleased to hear you mention gas/fluid-tightness as a reason to try this approach -- brings me closer to taking the plunge.

@LeadSkillets Жыл бұрын

Haha I'm glad I'm not the only one with PETG overhang issues. Already have some Overture PETG, might have to experiment a bit.

@fkopac Жыл бұрын

Years ago I tried some PET filament from Taulman, then the best bet to get something that could be used as a light guide. They had similar suggestions to achieve transparency, with one significant difference: They said thick layers were best. I wish this parameter were tested too. Thank you for this and keep on making :)

@vito7056 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this!

@b.ryancooper5344 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! Thanks for the credit.

@flymypg Жыл бұрын

OMG. My first 3D printer was the crowdfunded 101Hero, a tiny delta with a quality speed of only 11 mm/s, up to 14 mm/s for "quick" drafts and some vase-mode prints. I never got rid of it for sentimental reasons, and now it has a NEW USE: I'm going to make it my GLASS PRINTER! WOO!

@p07gbar Жыл бұрын

Fantastic work!

@briannewman6216 Жыл бұрын

An excellent review of transparent filaments. For many applications the color of the part is irrelevant. If color is important the part can be easily painted. A process which also can be used to reduce the effect of the layer lines.

@francescocaravella4556 Жыл бұрын

I was just thinking about this today, i had made some key caps in transparent petg, i made sure to use concentric layers and infill for best transparency.

@guerrillaradio9953 Жыл бұрын

The grooved look of transparent FDM parts is perfect for one thing...lenses for lights on cars, both model and full-sized!

@andre9095 Жыл бұрын

This has been a want forever, thanks

@MrHeHim 8 ай бұрын

I've noticed on smaller parts close together on the build plate can use a small amount of cooling without any difference in clarity. This also stops the PETG (in my case) from warping from excessive heat Keep in mind, anything on a bed slinger (especially without an enclosure) in being cooled both passively and actively when the bed moves back and forth. Edit; I'm printing on an enclosed printer with the top off and doors closed

@troyhetherington6744 Жыл бұрын

This was great. Wish I had seen it before printing a replacement light bulb lens/diffuser for oven hood light!

@AdamFlanders Жыл бұрын

Craft resin casting offers an indirect method for perfectly clear items. I print my object, smooth the surface with sanding, cast a negative mold in silicone, then pour in craft resin. Inexpensive and very easy for simple models. Provides better clarity even than resin printers.

@isthattrue1083 Жыл бұрын

All I use now is Overture Filament. They were the first I went with and have not been disappointed. I don't even have to dry it out. Just open the package and start printing.