Traxxas Mini E-Revo VXL 1/16 Brushless Tarmac Test: 2S LiPo vs 2x2S Parallel LiPo!

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Traxxas Mini E-Revo VXL 1/16 Brushless Tarmac Test: 2S LiPo vs 2x2S Parallel LiPo!

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After the last Off Road Test Run on 2S LiPo and 2x2S LiPo in Parallel I got curious and wanted to test and record the Traxxas E-Revo VXL/Velineon 1/16 with a 2S and a 2x2S LiPo in Parallel on tarmac/on road too ... and watch the differences.
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I guess the result was as expected so this is also a demonstration of which battery set-up not to use on tarmac unless one has a wheelie bar or/and a lot of wide open spaces (and do not care if gears/motor/esc gets damaged) ... and I guess, it is also a demonstration of how it should not be driven/controlled. I gotta get used to the fact that this little thing really wants to flip and roll over as much as it can.
WARNING! DISCLAIMER: Traxxas do not recommend running your E-Revo VXL 1/16 with more than 2S LiPo and normal/stock gearing. This could damage internal gears, motor and ESC. Refer to your manual for safe driving set-ups.
You can watch the NiMH, 2S LiPo and 2x2S LiPo in Parallel battery test run on a ball field with the Traxxas E-Revo VXL Brushless 1/16 here:
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@silverianoiiivillanueva7433 5 жыл бұрын

I think you are still running on a 2s battery but just higher mah battery. Based on your connector. It is a parralel connector. Use a series connector to become a 4s.

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactely. Everything was explained a few days after the upload and the title was changed etc. 😉

@doodgeslagenmug 11 ай бұрын

Explains why mine was never twice as fast. I used to own one 10 years ago. Now the batteries are dead tho, car is fjne.

@johnheden 5 жыл бұрын

OK, so you used a parallell connector, meaning you keep the original voltage (2S), but double the capacity (mAh) for longer run times. This will usually also lead to slight improvement in acceleration because higher current can be delivered. If you had used a series conector, you would experience a car nearly impossible to control due to the extremely high voltage (4S).

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, exactly! couldn't have said it better. At the time of this video I was absolutely new to all this "series" and "parallel", and at that time I believed (because of the increased speed) that the voltage must have changed :-) But I was soon corrected here just after the upload so I got the chance to learn more :-) Thanks for the fine comment and explanation, John.

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Guys! With the help of a couple of kind and keen observer-friends I have corrected the title and description! (Thank You!) This video and the last video, as most of you know by now, is not a demonstration of 2S vs 4S but instead a demonstration of a single 2S LiPo battery vs 2 x 2S LiPo battery in parallel. I'm a newbie at this "LiPo" so I believed what I was told when I bought the batteries - especially when I tested the two battery set ups against each other and found a huge difference in performance/acceleration. In my head, that could only be explained by a huge difference in volts so I didn't question my information. But apparently 2S is not just 2S and other factors than volt can be involved. I'll leave the explanation to better folks, untill I'm sure I actually understand it correctly myself :-) I'm very sorry if I have misled anyone in the last couple of days. Luckily I had help and the mistake is now corrected. Consider this as a disclaimer ... I still can't get to an understanding of why a single 2S and 2x2S feels so different ... I think the footage speaks for itself. Would love to hear an explanation if you have one :-)

@wadetubman 6 жыл бұрын

Nordic RC Visions could it be that 2 batteries in parrallel increases the C rating and can supply more current even at the same voltage? Hence more power?

@Harkeness_RC 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree! 2s is Enough for this, 4s you got hardly any control. Might also be that the car is too light too. Great video👍look forward in seeing your next test run. Awesome stuff😃

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Harkeness O7 Thanks! I actually made a mistake on this one. It's only running 2S both times. Found out that if it actually was 4S it would probably be dead by now :-) But second time it's a parallel 2x2S. What a difference still! Can't get my head around why it would make such a difference though :-) well, I make mistakes and live and learn while doing it :-) Thanks for watching, my friend.

@christophercoconis2575 6 жыл бұрын

That is absolutely crazy something so small shouldn't be that fast...lol 😱

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

He he, quite uncontrollable, at least with standard shock set up and no wheelie bar etc. But still alot bigger (more like 1/14) than the 1/18 WLToys that go just as fast :-)

@Remoteaddicted 6 жыл бұрын

Great video! Always thought those are only up to 3S. 4S is from another world. You need a wheelie bar with a lenght of 50cm for a "normal" run on 4S. Would be interesting how fast it goes on 4S :)

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, mate! I believe you're right! Changed the title and the description box and added a comment. Good thing I have friends here like you that can help me get down to earth and correct my misleading mistakes ;-) It's actually running 2S both times ... I think, lol. Was told that the connector should set the batteries in series, and since the change when running it was huge, I didn't think twice. Well, anything else than a single NiMH 6S/7S or a LiPo 2S is brand new to me. In my head a single 2S and a 2x2S in parallel should produce the same speed and acceleration, but apparently not :-)

@ShenRC 6 жыл бұрын

don't even know why they make em run on 4S it's like insane on these little rc's! Nice vid.

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

shenlonco Thanks, Steve. Sigbarth RC has just told me that the connector I'm using is a parallel. So it should be 2S with both batteries. Why is it running A LOT faster then? I'm very confused. Hope I can use your experience :-)

@ShenRC 6 жыл бұрын

Hi I I had a connector like that with mine when I used 4S it does appear to be parallel may have picked the wrong plug up? but there is a 100% sure way to test this and see because It's hard for me to see it the connector the video. Get both charged packs hook them up to your Y harness and get a volt meter and test the + & - on the end that connect to the esc if you get way higher than 8.4v then it's the correct plug and if not then it's running parallel but you will still get a bit more speed because the batteries together act like one big one letting more amps flow through them... but 4s voltage will be insane...let me know what your voltage reads.

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

shenlonco Thanks! Good idea. Will do that when I get to mine. It would be strange if it is running 2S with the two batteries. It feels so different. Not just 'a bit' more. In the vid I can't even give full throttle without flipping it over on the roof. I can easily do that with one battery even though it sometimes produces a wheelie.

@ShenRC 6 жыл бұрын

Let me know what happens.

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

I will. I have corrected the title until then :-)

@coltonwilliams7834 6 жыл бұрын

Because the slipper clutch if it’s all the way right it grips the gear more but If u loosen it the spur gear will not be as tight on the pads behind the spur gear so it pins a tiny bit when eve I hit the throttle and it is harder to do wheelies

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

It sounds like a good tip, Thank you!

@MARKLINMAN1 5 жыл бұрын

I would keep it at 2S or 3s Max. Nice little truck to mess around with on the dirt/grass.

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, off road the stock gearing and a 2S is plenty of power for this little one. Great fun. Thanks a lot for watching, Marklinman1!

@BasBoyRC 6 жыл бұрын

I did fit the wheelie bar, make a lot of difference.

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Basildon Trail Blazing Buddies Yeah, even on 2S it could need a wheelie bar (and a different shock set up). Hope you're having fun with yours still, even though you got the passion for the big, beautiful slow trail trucks right now. Love your build videos. Wish I had more time in between family and work to watch them. Thanks for watching, my friend.

@BasBoyRC 6 жыл бұрын

Yes not a good year for bashing as the grass areas have never been right. They do not get cut very often and with the rain we have had the grass is a constant mess on top so would just trash a car as grass can get so badly wrapped round drive shafts. So the trucks are more suitable to play with and have been going more towards trailing. But you was right disappointed not to get to build the gearboxes on the Cross kits.

@rcsendandblast1579 5 жыл бұрын

Great mini video loved the speed this can reach it's actually almost to fast. 👊😎

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the feedback, Michael! Yeah, almost too fast :-) Definitely a bit too fast for me ... but still fun :-)

@0815antonio 3 жыл бұрын

I have the Same, super Car, only New Servo needed

@NordicRC 3 жыл бұрын

Nice, Georg. Got a new one now. New servo too 🙃🙂

@hollyhillrc 6 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha, this is an excellent example of why I am too nervous to run lipos, and still run nimhs and brushed. I have 2 brushless combos I can use, but until I venture into the world of lipos, they will stay in thier boxes. It maybe my 2018 new years resolution to bite the bullet and go lipo : ))

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Derek! We are much the same :-) Had a really hard time switching to LiPo, and I haven't made the switch completely. I still run a lot of NiMH and brushed. One can use both. You should try 2S LiPo - it's like a NiMH that has been fully charged one minute ago (a fully charged NiMH 6S actually has a voltage above 8.4 but drops very quickly) and stays like that for nearly the whole run :-) And it doesn't feel like too much in a 1/10 model like it does in a 1/16 like this. The only downside, for me personally, is the fact that one has to put them in storage mode in between runs. So for the impulsive runs (where I have no time to charge) I just use my NiMH that I store charged.

@sad_cowboi8044 6 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of buying one of em

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

I've certainly have had a lot of fun with it :-) Thanks for watching mate.

@sad_cowboi8044 6 жыл бұрын

Nordic RC Visions gonna have to make a lower cg

@rcsendandblast1579 5 жыл бұрын

HauntedByApplesauce Buy a tougher truck. For the money something like the 1/10 slash is more of a longer lasting drivetrain set up. In my experience the mini has tooo much horsies under the hood. Breaks to easily. Anyway I just spent the same amount of money on a new 3s blx Arrma Granite and what a Rock solid Beast. For the money it's better to find something that's tougher than the mini or a brushed version I'd highly recommend Unless you have experience with high power RC cars. Hope you decide good. I know this is a old reply. I'm curios did you go with a revo and how did that fair for you. 👊😎

@lukeburdo 5 жыл бұрын

Great quality camera!

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching, bro!

@paulbutcherrc809 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome car very fast

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah very fast. Got some GPS speed tests with it too in my channel. Thanks for watching and the comment, Paul!

@coltonwilliams7834 6 жыл бұрын

I got the 1/10 erevo brushless with 29and40 gears and I keep mine all the way right cuz I like to ride wheelies

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply, but sometimes youtube/google’s notifications don’t show all comments, sadly. But again, thanks for the tip. Wheelies can indeed be fun. A wheelie bar for this one when it’s running on asphalt could be kinda cool, so it wouldn’t flip all the way and land upside down.

@RBAERO 5 жыл бұрын

In parallel still 2s with double mah. In series is 4s.

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know :-) Corrected the title and everything. Still much more punch and a little extra top speed with the extra amps in parallel. But of course no where near a 4S. I also learned that the electronics are rated to max. 12S NiMH or 3S LiPo. Though I have seen a few short speed run videos with it on 4S. It's insane on 4S. I'll stick to the 2S LiPo :-)

@olviszinebsoteloossandon9754 5 жыл бұрын

Ese auto muy pronto lo tendre en mis manos :)

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Nice! Hope you will have a lot of fun with the e-revo!

@arturos.l.2248 Жыл бұрын

2s is probably the best option given the size and equipment. The NMHIs with a series connector are no joke either, they can reach the top speed, but the run time is bye bye

@PCRCPRO 5 жыл бұрын

2s is perfect, but you can tell on 4s it holds the ground better with the extra weight

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good idea. Maybe even 2 x 6S NiMH. They weigh more.

@maxv.6669 5 жыл бұрын

I have an 1/16 E Revo brushed, would I be able to put a Velineon in it and it drive smoothly without TSM

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

This one definitely does not have any TSM 🙂

@michaelrowe5896 2 жыл бұрын

Vxl system is faster. Depends on driver honestly. But the RC hobby, you are going to wreck. Half the fun but gets expensive...... Worth it 😂

@retam1418 2 жыл бұрын

So even 2 2s batteries in parallel are considered 4s? Isn't that just a bigger 2s?

@NordicRC 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, see the description 😊👍🏻

@miniRCSports 6 жыл бұрын

nice video

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I've changed the title now ;-)

@tenncutt 3 жыл бұрын

How do you place your parallel connector under the body? I have troubles keeping it out of the tire on the driver side. Did you zip tie it somehow or what? Thanks good video. I put the two 2s batteries in parallel and it immediately flipped first trigger pull!

@NordicRC 3 жыл бұрын

Been a while since I ran this one. I suspect I just place it under the body and hope for the best - I cannot remember any trouble with it sticking out. Uhh, yeah this one wants to roll and flip and wheelie a lot 😅🙂

@keenonnorris8510 2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't aware you could run 2 lipos in parallel. I thought parallel/series connectors were for Nihm only

@legendarycinematics3091 6 жыл бұрын

Should i do it to mine it flips on the stock battery And will i need a aftermarket esc

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Do what to yours?

@coltonwilliams7834 6 жыл бұрын

If it flips easily then loosen up the slipper clutch half a turn

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Ohh, that sounds interesting. How would that help?

@coltonwilliams7834 6 жыл бұрын

The spur gear the pads behind it are gripping it harder so it catches more when u hit the throttle so if u loosen it half a turn it will be harder to do a wheelie b cause t spins the gear a little bit more and it don’t grip as quick and hard but u can still get max speed on it

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Good tip. Thanks!

@emersonrogerioportilhoport3268 6 жыл бұрын

Como vc fez p ele chegar tão longe do controle????

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry. I do not understand.

@dirtrider88 2 жыл бұрын

1:48 thats a parallel connector, your still running 2s

@NordicRC 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! You are right. Old video. See description ☺️

@dev_nickf 2 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about doing this, has anyone experienced any long term issues? I have traxxas link so my throttle is set low too. Just wanna get the extra runtime :)

@NordicRC 2 жыл бұрын

It should be alright with dual 2S LiPo. A little more power and much longer run time.

@mthef10 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, did you install the high speed pinion gear?

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

Nope! This one should be all stock. But thanks a lot for watching.

@mthef10 5 жыл бұрын

Ok 👍. Thank you for replying and making this video too :)

@alexon559 5 жыл бұрын

Appx how long do those lipos last both of them in parallel ?

@NordicRC 5 жыл бұрын

I am not sure actually, since it always depend on how you run it, surface etc. But a good amount of time. Somewhere between 30-60 minutes I would say.

@chozeroz8971 6 жыл бұрын

How are the temperatures on the esc and motor while running 2x2s

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

It’s been a while since I ran it on 2x2S, but if I remember correctly it was okay. I think, though, Traxxas recommends gearing it down (with the included pinion) for runs with batteries in parallel or series.

@icebjorn7453 6 жыл бұрын

Is it worth to buy or how fast is it? I maybe thinking of getting one that goes 55km/h

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Ice Björn! I've found it quite fun ... and extremely durable. Definitely think it can go beyond 55 kmph with 2x2S or 1x3S. Hope you find one that suits you.

@rchobbyer 4 жыл бұрын

The ESC will not dried ?

@NordicRC 4 жыл бұрын

Only 2S here

@rchobbyer 4 жыл бұрын

But you put parallel 2S LiPo, it will not dried the ESC ?

@NordicRC 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it’s still only 2S, just with more amps, but still the same voltage. I think the ESC is specified to max. 3S LiPo and 12S NiMH.

@andresvillagomez75 4 жыл бұрын

Nordic RC Visions I can run the 3s lipo and not worry about hurting the car

@rchobbyer 4 жыл бұрын

Andres Villagomez the esc can support 3s lipo without worries

@leograph5045 4 жыл бұрын

I thougt it is only 2S or 3S and not 4S🤔

@NordicRC 4 жыл бұрын

It is only 2S in this video ☺️ My bad back then (see the previous comments)

@rc-tossen3411 6 жыл бұрын

lol its all wrong parallel will only combine the Mah And series will combine the voltage and give the car 14,8 volt........

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly! My first try with parallel/series. Check the description. Got it all wrong 😄 I just thought that because it was going so fast with two batteries it was because of more voltage, but I learned now that it is only because of the ability to draw/discharge more amps with two batteries.

@hellebust 6 жыл бұрын

not switching to 23T pinion on 4s?

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Robin Hellebust It’s actually not running on 4S but only 2S. Read my comment here - Sorry for the confusion :-/

@hellebust 6 жыл бұрын

alright i see :) just ordered this car with series plus paralell cables :) and 3-4 extra batteries :D can't wait to get my hand on this baby!

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Robin Hellebust Cool! Had a lot of fun with it. Flips very easily though but extremely durable. Great fun. I’m glad I didn’t have a series cable when I tried it out. I would probably have set it up in real 4S and burned out the motor and ESC :-) Plenty of speed on a 2S though and more than plenty of speed on 2x2S :-)

@hellebust 6 жыл бұрын

bought another stock battery and 2s+3s. will have alot fun with that ;) and a heatsink for the motor ofc!

@NordicRC 6 жыл бұрын

Never even tried it on 3S. Must go like crazy.