Not much of a comparison - I must say. More like side to side reviews of 2 bikes. Would be nice if you could let a few testers ride both bikes on the same course and then compare their aggregated ratings of both bikes on some key qualities (stiffness, compliance, sprinting, descending, etc). That would be a fair (fairer) head to head comparison. Just sayin

Emonda all day long!

16 years ago, when Trek introduced the first post-Lance Madones, I told our district manager they needed an H1.5 cockpit. The 2-3cm gap from H1 to H2 was just too much. So I'm glad they finally brought H1.5 to the Emonda SL range.

To make this a worthwhile comparison you must compare the tarmac with the trek SLR models

Hopeless review. Never really did any head on comparison. Just words. Don’t waste time really won’t help you decide between these two bikes

Nice review. I have been considering both of these models for my next bike. I have learned two things. The Tarmac is longer and lower so will be a little more stable and easy handling at higher speeds. Also, i ran accross some bike aero data done in the uk that ranked the bikes with riders. The graph correlated closely to stack-reach ratio, meaning reducing the cyclist's frontal cross sectional area was the biggest aero benefit. The Tarmac is a little faster if you are flexible enough to be comfortable with the rider position. I'm a current Trek owner and may go Emonda because it is a tad more upright.

Totally useless comparison.

Best rider makes the bike performs the best. That’s the bottom line

So you got essentially an entry level Emonda and a top of the range SL7...other than looks what are we supposed to be comparing the bikes on? That's a huge difference in the weight of the frames for the Emonda between the lower frames and upper. Most manufacturers the gap is more like the specialized where you gain 150 g give or take. 700g difference in frame weight and that doesn't include the fork seems like it is done on purpose to discourage enthusiasts from buying the lower tier bikes. Like the heavier frame is literally double the weight of their lighter frame - that's ridiculous.

I have the Emonda SL7 Ultegra and absolutely love the bike. Might have to splurge and get the SLR.

Depends if you went to the washroom in the morning or not

The best between these two is cleary the Giant TCR.

I ride a Willier zero slr and tried my friends Emonda slr6. Different levels of rigidlty i suppose but the Willier feels so much more responsive than that or the colnago v3rs

Which one to choose? Just listen to your heart. After all the aesthetics is the main quality of bike riding.

would you kindly do a comparison of the SL7 Sworks vs the Wilier Filante SLR, I believe those are the most similar bikes in terms of aerodinamics/weight as one.

Why title a comparison video "Which one is best?" if you do not offer an educated opinion about which one is best?

Thanks for the vid! Are weight claims typically just the frame by itself, meaning without seatpost and handlebars?

The Bike industry needs to actually review bikes instead of rating everything supplied as great. There isn’t enough actual independent testing that goes on. (From an SL7 owner)

"There should be something, no matter whats your budget" my budget: 300 bucks 😂

Whichever can take the widest tyres.....we don't all have nicely surfaced roads....

Varmac vs. Madone-Lite 😉😁👍👌

Anyone can compare specs. This video leaves us none the wiser.

aero enhanced for the mountains vs aero enhanced for the flats? How does wind and drag know one is going up hill or going on the flat? Is the trek's geometry and stiffer parts of the frames different; one for hills and one for all around? Is that what is being said here?

Canyon ultimate cf sl is better than both ?

Strange test on totally different priced models.

90% of the time same old trek, specialized and canyon. Give us a break, other than sponsored crap viewers can look pastvit. Make some good content for a change.

out of the trek and specialized. I chose Trifox, better then both combined and 1/4 the price.

How much of a difference does the integrated handle bar have over the standard 🤔

I had a Tarmac and loved it now I have the Emonda and love it 😐

What colour is Tarmac on this video?

But is the Giant TCR better than both?

What are These purple Shoes tho

the emonda weighs as much as most gravel bikes, aside the $12k model

For that price difference, you could by trek Emonda's for half your team.

The weight of the Trek frame you quoted (under 700gm) is the unpainted weight. The SL7 frame weight is for a painted frame. Great job spreading mis-information.

I wonder who has the most stage wins in Grand Tours?

Did you actually weight both of them? I'd bet the emonda is the claimed weight and the spesh is way off.

I’m enjoying the bike so far kzfaq.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.

i mean dude wtf this isn't even fair. you have the mid-tier trek vs the top of the line specialized...

I considered the Trek Emonda, the Specialized Tarmac, and the Giant TCR. I bought the Emonda because it has the prettiest paint job. Just kidding! The Emonda does have the prettiest paint job, but I actually bought it because my local independent bike shop, which is a dealer for Specialized and Giant, has not received any new bikes for months and did not know when a Tarmac or TCR might be available. The local Trek store had both a 2020 and a 2021 Emonda available in my size. I brought my 1994 Trek 2200 to the store and asked them to match the handlebar and seat position. The could not do so with the 2020 Emonda, which has Trek's H2 fit. The mechanic estimated the handlebars would be 3 cm higher. The 2021 Emonda has Treks H1.5 fit and could match the position of my 2200. Even though it was heavily discounted, I was happy to find a solid reason not to buy the 2020 Emonda so that I could avoid the dreaded BB90 bottom bracket. Both the Emonda and the Tarmac now have threaded bottom brackets. The TCR has a press-fit bottom bracket, but Giant claims to have few problems with their bottom brackets due to tighter tolerances.

Compare a r 12 specialized with sl7 500 trek is not the same

I can already tell you the drawbacks to all of them...their ridiculous price tags!!!

oh yeah so why is my Cannondale super six evo scram red/2013 liter than my new trek 2022 madone slr7

Giant TCR is best

Trek 💯👍

I have the TREK Emonda SLR (the previous generation w rim brakes). It is amazing; Super light weight, exciting to ride and climbs like magic. It's like driving a Ferrari, you better know how! I have the new S-Works Tarmac SL7. It is sublime to ride in every way. It's like driving a Bugatti, a magic carpet speedster. Sad though as it's on recall, very concerned and let down by the company.

SL7 is the best allrounder in the world he is fast vert very fast !!

copying the/SLR TAG frm trek .why can't specialized use their own tag line

And the winner goes to... TCR !

Trek👍🏻

I hate comparison reviews where the author doesn't pick a winner. 0/10

Screech!

This comparison is ambaracing 3k bike vs 0ver 11k? Are you out of your mind?

notice they not dare compare put the specialize against trek madone.bc madone rules baby

I found no useful information here.

I see so many people ride around on aero madones while holding the bars at the brake hoods

Emonda gg

Bring back rim brake emonda

1442 Gram = 1.4 KG One kilo bike come on man What is he saying bro 😂

What a cop out video...

Stu your saddle is to high

I know these companies are paying you reviewers to post these videos but don't you think your audience deserves better? There's more to cycling than expensive bikes that 99% of your viewers will never be able to ride.

Could do better 3/10

Shitest comparison ever

Make them a little lighter and more aero, and its soon no workout anylonger 🤦‍♀, so you can stay home and leave the road for us motorcycle riders

So boring. Speak faster