Tri-ang Stephenson's Rocket : Repair Request

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Жыл бұрын

Martin sent me this old Tri-ang Rocket to repair as it had suddenly stopped working.
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@paulmason1977 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this video! My Stephenson’s rocket was not working and wouldn’t budge on tracks. When I took apart the engine,I saw lots of dirt and cleaned it out. My Stephenson’s rocket can now run on the track as it wants!

@stickbug6800 11 ай бұрын

Bill, excellent job and a very informative repair video! I had a similar situation with a Tri-ang Rocket that functioned well when I first bought it second hand, but it also mysteriously quit working. After watching your video sequence on taking it apart I was able to ID the problem and make the repair. What I found and believe was the problem, corrosion had occurred on the drive wheel axles and bearings. Once I cleaned them and the motor (as you had done in the video) and repaired the same red wire for the smoke stack, the unit now functions as it should. It is light weight and struggles with traction but will pull the 3 cars and tender as it was designed. I must also say, I've had problems with work surfaces and taking your lead, I now have a dedicated towel surface that is working like a charm. AT 72 1/2 years it proves you're never to old to learn. Thanks again for the video and guidance. It's great to find someone who takes the time to share their knowledge and experience. Best wishes.

@wideyxyz2271 Жыл бұрын

Great repair of an old classic from my youth!

@trainzville9237 Жыл бұрын

You did a great job Bill. Being 60 years old, the Triang Stephenson's Rocket runs quite well, apart from the stuttering on the points.

@pedalcarguy Жыл бұрын

Nice job yet again! I have the old Hornby version of the Rocket with coaches. The paperwork dates the set to 1983. I don't think there are any changes compared to this Tri-Ang one. I tested mine and it runs happily with a 9 V battery. So your diagnosis of damaged windings may well be correct. I also have the new Hornby Rocket set. It was overpriced but I just had to have it. I'm sure you understand. 😅

@brucebigglesworth9532 Жыл бұрын

As always, your patient and methodical approach wins through. I wonder if the owner paid the same as me in the 1960's - after many months of saving pocket money I had the requisite 21/6 (£1.07p) for the Triang 'Rocket' set. Thanks for all the videos

@bigmac60 Жыл бұрын

As an electrician of 40 years I would love to see someone rewind that motor. Nice job bill

@simonturner5450 Жыл бұрын

Paul, if you have a look at Mr Snooze on KZfaq he has just done a series on rewinding and bearing replacement on X04 motors.

@stephenrice4554 9 ай бұрын

Superb job, 👍

@modelrailroader5619 Жыл бұрын

Good one, Bill. Those multi meters sure come in handy. Great forensics all round. Cheers, 🇨🇦

@KenShepherd-rs4tj Жыл бұрын

Hi Bill, Great video. I bought a Tri-ang Stephenson's Rocket set during the week and, it ran well on an initial test. Although I always service motors and electrical contacts when I acquire a locomotive (they are usually in dire need of it!!!), I can see from your video that extra attention needs to be given to the rear "bearing", which appears from your video to a plastic part with no oil felt pad or sintered bearing .... no wonder it melted! Cheers.

@johnjephcote7636 4 ай бұрын

No firm ever made Brandreth's 'Cycloped', the wagon with a moving belt operated by a horse upon't. (A popular but against-the-rules entry at the Rainhill Trials).

@petersmith4455 Жыл бұрын

hi Bill, i remember when these came out in the early 60s, good old Triang Railways !

@MrSnooze Жыл бұрын

Hello Bill, I always use a small amount of flexible glue to hold the rear bearing to the magnet, I think the bearing has shrunk a bit over time allowing it to wobble about and become noisy etc. Holding it with a dob of silicone restores the motor to quiet smooth running. An enjoyable episode, best regards to you

@OOElectronics Жыл бұрын

I've worked on a couple of these.The back bearing is a bit basic and I found some light grease helped. The other issue was that the springs that hold the brushes in tension might need their angles changed slightly to better bed the brushes on to the commutator. Possibly the plastic that holds the brushes was enlarged or maybe slightly distorted due to heat in the past. As you note, amazing for their time. I have mine on radio control now but with the smoke still from the track power.

@piers995 Жыл бұрын

Amazing repair for such a small model.

@RGJTrains Жыл бұрын

Just subscribed, been recommended your page by a fellow youtuber so i can learn how to maintain/repair my locos, thank you

@jimflagg4009 Жыл бұрын

Thanks again Bill. Keep saving trains.

@marklittlejohn1457 Жыл бұрын

Excellent work bill thankyou for the video

@roberthocking9138 Жыл бұрын

Great work Bill, such a tiny motor !!!

@ModelRailwayShed Жыл бұрын

Great job Bill 😊

@PeterJewell2 Жыл бұрын

Fitting metal wheels and pickups to the tender would probably work wonders with the running. Similarly with the coaches to reduce rolling resistance, although both would reduce the model's authenticity.

@ianlangan6976 Жыл бұрын

Hi Bill i loved this video - awesome restore. I have a Tri-ang R 54 and am curious as to what is the motor used in it? I am missing the small insulated board from the top and don’t know how to look for it online… i know its a completely unrelated question but any input would be greatly appreciated- thanks

@numptypootis8012 Жыл бұрын

Quite like these wee little models, I'd love to have ome with the smoke unit as I have a tiny first radius layiut so this would be perfect, and also I'm just a sucker for smoke units

@DaiElsan Жыл бұрын

It's been 40 years since I last did a motor rewind, and the motor was a lot larger than that little thing. 😂😂

@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 Жыл бұрын

good vid thanks lee

@clivebennettHornbyDublo Жыл бұрын

Rocket Science from OO Bill tip top work!

@ianwalker3158 Жыл бұрын

Hi Bill I have 48rockets all working I've found the back to back is important to set to .565in hope is helpful regards ian

@garethparkin9498 Жыл бұрын

I'd be very interested to watch a video on rewinding an armiture Bill if you wanted to make one.

@piloterrors Жыл бұрын

I've just watched @MrSnooze rewind a Tri-ang armature on his KZfaq Channel, it seemed to work well when finished

@johngibson4641 Жыл бұрын

Hi Bill ,, I got 1 of these little things given to me as a non runner that was thrown in with a job lot of trains that i had bought but its a Bachmann type with 3 carriages from memory and boy what a nightmare of a little thing to muck with. I did eventually get it going but it didnt stay going for long so i just boxed it for later on when I have more patience. Also hows the new layout going ? Cheers from John in Australia.

@mikeking2539 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful.... I have one of the later re-issue of the Rocket... Not sure if it still runs or not.... Far too tiny for me to try and faff around with. And I can't solder to save my life!

@davidbirchall465 Жыл бұрын

where can one pick up a bearing remover from

@carsofderbyshire2850 Жыл бұрын

Just wondering if you would be able to fix my dads class 43 that he’s had for a while it gets power to the motor but it doesn’t run. Any suggestions?

@PeterJewell2 Жыл бұрын

Essentially you have one of two problems: mechanical (bearings etc binding due to lack of lubrication or physical obstruction), or electrical (lack of continuity due to dirt or breakage). Inspection and testing should reveal the cause, which could be: - Check whether it works with the plastic gears removed. If it does, could be mechanical problem with wheels/axles. - Dirty commutator. (Clean/lube motor a la OOBill!) - Dry motor bearings (ditto). - Worn out or missing brush/es or brush springs. (") - Then the difficult to spot one... Certain Ringfield motors have the brush retainers held on with screws. These may be different lengths, in which case the longer one provides an electrical connection between the brush and the chassis, the other doesn't. Get them the wrong way round and it won't work! - Damaged armature windings -- check continuity/resistance between the commutator segments -- check each with its neighbour: assuming you have continuity, all 3 (or 5) should have similar resistance (same order of magnitude). - Or something else, but that's all I can think of immediately!

@carsofderbyshire2850 Жыл бұрын

@@PeterJewell2 Cheers mate.👍🏼

@peterwilliamson4663 Жыл бұрын

Just a thought but would an N gauge motor fit?

@oobill Жыл бұрын

It might. If I had one of these I'd be tempted to try replacing the motor and fitting metal wheels and pickups to the tender. They are quite valuable though so I think there is a tendency to leave them alone.