hey dude what's the background track you have playing around 16:00-17:55, I always like that track on all your vids

Is there anything to suggest how beating the main quest might have effected the dlcs?

@@yourwifesboyfriend1485 I believe it would

@TriagleCity Im guessing someone else already pointed this out but the 5th ending is the secret Elijah ending for Dead Money.

What mod do you have that makes your first person animations look good like at 11:37?

Yeah such a shame!!!! I wish they had of hit ("bethesda's) sales goal with there contract Such a scam

@@samsungphone1326 how is that a scam???

Bethesda is the reason New Vegas couldn’t be what it should’ve been, crazy how this is widely considered the best fallout game, despite it not even being what it wanted to be.

@@XachXack why?

@@MorriganAutumn Supposedly Bethesda sabotaged Obsidian by not fulfilling obligations they themselves committed to, like robust playtesting for QA and providing the team with whatever expertise they needed to get up to speed with Bethesda's proprietary dev tools. Given Bethesda's history of sabotaging studios, this isn't really much of a stretch in plausibility. On the other side of the coin I've also heard things like the insanely short development time for NV wasn't something Bethesda forced on Obsidian, but was rather a deadline Obsidian's upper management pushed for completely against the wishes of the studio's actual development staff. Obsidian's management is apparently infamous for being generally bad to work underneath according to ex-employees. It seems all around like Obsidian's devs were trapped between their own incompetent management and Bethesda's usual scummy practices when it comes to working with outside studios they can't just roll over.

*Why would you prevent such an awesome outcome?*

@@klimaxkid gay sex just make deathclaws stronger

@@billul1 ofc!

@@billul1 like with the Spartans

making the Deathclaws gay would've evolved the Alpha Males into Sigma Males

Or... "we had to cut it because consoles."

@@wolfen26 no, because a lot of the stuff missing from kotor 2 was because of unreasonable time constraints for a Christmas release.

Yeah The same thing happened with Fallout 2 and Kotor 2

As much as people blame Bethesda with the lie about them being responsible for the short development it really seems that the management at Obsidian has always had trouble limiting the teams vision before it hurts the development.

@@toxiccorgi2108 that's actually not a lie, bethesda was responsible for a great deal of issues when it came to NV development. The time constraint lie isn't a lie when you realise obsidian had to use Bethesda's engine which they were unfamiliar with and as we all know is a piece of junk code wise. Learning such a system takes time which they already didn't have. From there, when you have chris avallone as narrative director you should know hes got big ideas and those ideas take time which they didn't have. This lie as you called it is 100% true when you realise what Bethesda did to obsidian and how their actions directly impacted them. As well as Bethesda publishing the game meaning Bethesda did set the release date not obsidian.

You're 100% on the right track.

During the Mr. New Vegas cut lines (around 5:00) he does mention "the dam being rendered useless", so that makes sense.

@@DampWetstew you can make the dam useless in the base game, if you side with yesman but blow up houses bunker in the fort you have to render the dam useless since you can’t hold it because you don’t have a robot army

@@DampWetstew I think that would've been for the Yes Man ending where you blow up the generators after not activating the securitron army

@Ethan Good I believe I saw that, they were ment to be a way larger faction then they are.

That's pretty much what all my videos are about 😂

Not quite as extensive as Obsidian would've wanted, and there's no new quests, but get Functional Post Game Ending if you want something like that.

Do the post game ending

@@theglutton1815 I did actually haha. RIP The Kings I did all your quests for nothing

@@damianwarneke305 They can still be kept alive if you make them go to war with the NCR in the House route

@Ferny Panda Fantastic really annoyed me but I always had to give him props on his ability to bullshit.

When in Rome

man calling Spectacular would've been awesome lol

100 speech. 1 charisma

I agree, I was thinking the 5th ending could have been some kind of meltdown option where you blow up everything like the dam and maybe even Vegas with a nuke or something, complete chaotic evil option that could require bad karma

@@moongus_makes Makes you think what would a destroyed New Vegas look like? I would've loved to walk through a destroyed New Vegas and be able to walk into the ruins of the Lucky 38 where the Penthouse ruins is now a part of the open world. Would've been a memorable moment where one of the most decorated interior with an overlook turns into a complete wreck. If the dam were destroyed, maybe the Colorado river would be higher/flooded and Lake Mead would be slightly lower.

This is a really cool idea With yes man you're given the option to basically destroy the dam during the battle, this would have surely led to the 'fuck you' scenario

The problem with that though, is that New Vegas has its own reactors and doesn't even need the Dam to have electricity.

@@cgijokerman5787 And that right there is why Fallout fans are the best fans in the world.

The delivery is hilarious, he sounds like he's rock hard in there lmfao.

I mean theoretical power armor.

I would think he’d be in scribe robes not power armor.

@@RaidsEpicly He also sounds like his many chem addictions are getting worse too lol

still gonna get blown up

3 years + pc only. oh man! it would have been even more perfect :(

​@@--Traveler-- Yeah I can't play without open freeside and open strip

​@@--Traveler--no, just 3 years. Fallout NV is super awesome, and everyone should get to play.

@@--Traveler--why PC only?

​@@Dualbattle2062less limitations

Fallout NV isn’t Skyrim. A post-game could’ve worked. It could’ve actually shown how your actions changed the Mojave

I think they made the right choice to cut it if they weren't going to be able to do it right, instead of just saying fuck it

I mean it’d certainly be possible to show, it would just to take a lot of effort and, especially, time, which they didn’t have.

Omg a year and 7 months? This game would have had to come out on next gen in 2012! IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EPIC! I NEEEEEED IT!

Microsoft needs to contract Obsidian on a New Vegas Extended Addition. Keep the game the same, but add in all the cut content and any other minor improvements. Maybe some smaller graphics and gameplay improvements, as already included in various mods. Much quicker, easier and safer than a full remake or new Fallout game.

@@Joshua-fi4ji thats not happen. most of folks that work then not work anymore for obsidian.

@@AkiWataru I know, but they did a decent job with the Outer Worlds, despite that game overall being a bit mediocre. They'd be fully capable of remaking and expanding on NV as most of the groundwork has already been done.

Actually I think microsoft has both Bethesda and Obsidian currently so a re released new vegas is possible

I don’t see how that would work, what I’ve taken away from TC is new vegas was in development long before it was ever even a thing officially, i.e. the pen & paper games the devs talk about Plus I don’t see a scenario where Microsoft says “Bethesda, Obsidian, work together! Chop! Chop!” going anywhere but a firey death

How many people that worked on New Vegas are still at Obsidian anyway? You've heard the stories. The best first person RPG, lying in the middle of weaker games. Playing it, that's not the hard part. It's letting go.

I would take literally only added content. The DLC is perfect for me, I wouldn't want anything extra apart from what would have been in if time permitted.

Some cut stuff would be nice, but not everything. Having stuff for the sake of having it, isn't so good, it can just bloat the game, or it doesn't fit, or they couldn't fix it, or it ruins story...so it goes. Sometimes it can be the reverse of that, but that is the dilemma of creating a videogame. Development has to end somewhere otherwise, when does it end? So you throw stuff out for one reason or another. Having all cut content would break it....even more, I know this is Fallout we are talking about here.

Everyone also gets a robot dog complimentary too

You had me at and it’s pretty cool, man

You paid? I beat his a$s for it lmaooo

20 barter (which you might have by accident) lowers the price from 1000 to... 20.

Not as annoying since it's cut content, but if you use mods or console commands to get the cut Child at Heart perk you can also just pretend you're a space captain or something and get the C-Finder for free.

@@Dee-sz4jc evil

@@Dee-sz4jc I'm surprised you just beat him up for it instead of abducting him, replacing him with a clone that will die soon, making him spend his life training in boot camp to be a super soldier, and sending him to fight dissidents. ONI must be going soft...

More likely Brotherhood, Elijah, or possibly even Ulysses than the Followers I think.

@@Psychonautical89 No, there's multiple cases of major faction functions for The Followers being cut, odds are they were the 5th ending. The BoS were minor faction from the start much like Fallout 1 thanks to their severe losses across Nevada.

it's the fantastic-i mean spectacular ending.

@@KiraSlith No, the 5th ending was the Legion ending with Caesar dying during the operation and Lanius becoming the new Caesar. The Followers being a major faction was cut long before Obsidian finalized the story.

I think the 5th ending was to destroy the three factions, like in Independent ending, but also destroying the dam

Babe, you shan't slight me again babe. Come watch TriangleCity post haste.

Stop trying to wake up your hand.

Definitely

We... have that though

@@robertcampbell3019 I was referring to the after hoover dam content

I was going to scream if no one knew that the Legion has two endings, technically. Thank you.

@@trouslinabone Can you explain? I didn’t do the legion playthrough yet

If I remember correctly they are doing some of the cut content I could be wrong tho

Don't count on it

I would not dare ask those guys to do extra work like restoring post game content as that would require probably bunch of new dialogue that they would need to voice and just would have to come up with there own ideas of what it would look like as its kinda vague

May not necessarily be a good idea. The developers of FNV have gone on record saying that some of the cut content is because they run out of time, but some of it is stuff they ended up not liking and so they actively chose to remove it from the finished game. If we think of a game during development time as the draft for a novel, some of it HAS to be removed to improve the quality of the final result.

nah, i'd rather leave up to modders of F4NV. let them get the core game out, then other people can try implement changes. and kokeshi is right. not all of it was cut because of time. a lot of it was cut because it wasn't good enough. NV is a steak with most of the fat trimmed off. adding the fat back in doesn't make the steak better, it makes it worse.

and its still the best Fallout game to date, Bethesda only wish they could make a game as good as Obsidian

@@Badookum I have only played 3 and New Vegas so I shall take your word for it.

@@carlgreene538 4s just 3 with a more polished but dumber down version of new vegas combat but with an absolutely boring and uninteresting main story.

@@robertharris6092 I haven't played 4 and probably never will as I don't have have a modern console.

@@Badookum it really isn't, fallout 2 is probably the best tbh

Agreed.

We can thank Bethesda for that since the developers had to rush the development of the game

*2 more years* *that’s all the would’ve needed*

@@Gamer-ry6xy No they didn't. They offered a bonus if a certain score was achieved by a certain time. Obsidian tried meeting it but failed. It was Obsidians decision alone to release Fallout New Vegas as a broken unfinished product to try and get that bonus. Chris Avellone says as much.

Both of them are counted as Legion ending tho

@@MasterGordon5115 Yes, but both legion endings have very different outcomes for some areas, so likely this “fifth ending” in the code was likely just distinguishing between the two scenarios.

That seems like the most likely 5th ending to me as well. Theres actually a section in the official guide that seems to reference their questline.

@ayy lmao they already have a major pro and a con , it feels like the only reason they don't have an ending and more presence is time.

Does this mod work with TTW ?

Mister Pidor

If that's the case then glad they cut that out. A Followers ending doesn't make any sense.

@@BIadelores Followers are pretty closely aligned with Benny, they had the ability to hack yes man and were probably pretty well liked by the people of the Mojave. Imo, with Courier backing Followers would make a good degree of sense.

@@SeanNaut It's not because of the Followers' status or views, the Followers are not a fighter faction. They don't have anyone with arms except guards they hire for protection. They have no aspirations of taking over any territory and even if they did they are completely lacking in the appropriate armaments, or numbers, to even give it a try. The idea that they'd be at Hoover dam fighting makes no logistical sense for the Followers. The Courier would either have to somehow one man carry an entire faction at the battle with no good back up in a place where everyone wants to kill him, or essentially hand over the territory to the followers after taking it over with the securitrons. That would make some kind of sense to an extent, but again the Followers are not interested in claiming territory, all they basically want is to just provide for the population. And if they somehow forget this to claim all of the Mojave, all they're doing is opening themselves up to getting massacred when the Legion and/or the NCR are done licking their wounds, as they have no adequate way to protect themselves. And to top it all off, in the independent ending, the Followers get super overwhelmed by the amount of problems the independence caused. If they can't even manage to support freeside/Vegas there's no chance of them managing to support the entire Mojave.

Could of been a peaceful ending, with Caesar once being a follower and his respect for them and the factions links to New California, maybe some sort of diplomatic solution could of unfolded between the legion and NCR. Or maybe the followers joined with the brotherhood to take the dam by force for the technology uno

@@marcusperilli266 Something like that, the Brotherhood thing, is what I would've liked. Personally I feel the independent vegas ending is undercooked and if it was me, I would've made it the most complex, and one of the ways I would've done so was by giving the ability to setup trade routes (like fo4) and set up diplomatic agreements between all the smaller factions so you can effectively create a larger super-faction of sorts that will help you kick out the NCR and the Legion at Hoover Dam. An ending where upon the Courier leaves the general role of leadership at the Followers' hands, due to their positive reputation with the population, would actually make sense, as long as the rest of the tribes/gangs/whatever can agree to put down their hostilities and provide the much needed equipments and supplies. For services in return, of course. If a proper (not fanmade) Fallout New Vegas remake is ever made that would be at the very top of my wishlist along with a post-game ending and a sprint button.

I mean her husband probably have an affair back in California, atleast she have Silus to play with.

What? No

@@therobustmole1137 oh yeah

😢

If the legion takes the dam I’m saving a bullet just for me

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

@Nagger true but I was just giving a suggestion, I mean they already had Veronica's lines for dead money in the game before dead money released so I mean maybe they had it in mind but still probably not.

@TheForging545 is that a mod?

Or maybe killing everybody in the game

@@GlitterGothBunny Yes, it's a really good experience, I recommended trying it at least once in your life.

​@@admiralamel9563 Really? I never saw the appeal, seemed like it was trying way too hard to be uber grimdark, though I guess Chris "I think Fallout isn't post-apocalyptic enough, even though humanity would obviously recover and advance, so I'm gonna set up several ways the wasteland gets fucked" Avellone paved the way for that.

He won't betray you if you weren't an idiot. Like if you blew up the Securitron bunker or ignoring the other factions.

Tina Herr idk about all that

It's about getting more focused on what you need, and not being able to let other people control him.

@@jonh5941 well, you literally got him in the position of power he is right now. He owes you. The only thing that would tarnish that is if you kept making bad choices. (This isn't including the interview where a developer said that when Yes Man became "assertive", he made it so that he could only follow the Courier's orders.)

@@Lance-The-BoS-Lancer I dunno, sounded to me like he was implying he was turning himself into a SHODAN. Just in a very Yes Man way. Guess they left it open to interpretation on purpose.

Thank you so much dude! 🖤🖤🖤

That was the one thing stopping me from going with house, wish they changed that

​@@milkape7363 lorewise it makes sense, the Brotherhood isn't gonna like House using robots

I didn't know that! That's so cool

@@TriangleCity if i remember correctly its when he is teaching you bitter drink

I didn't mean it was cut, just playing it for reference

maybe its possible now that Microsoft owns both Obsidian and Bethesda.

Although I know for a fact that few would've had as much cut content cut out as New Vegas, do to Obsidian's time constraints.

Must also say how well voice acted those lines were! Very immersive and heartfelt

Best ending

like a post-apocalyptic occurence at owl creek? i actually love that idea

No other than very small cut content changes, they're keeping it as to the original as possible.

@@geth7112 do you know which particular cut content they're using?

No unfortunately not, I'm just going off of what they said on their Discord

@@geth7112 I don't blame them, that'd be a ton of work on top of a metric fuckton of work. Do the hard part and leave that to someone to mod the mod.

Not even worth speculating as being possible. It's not even like TTW where they were able to include all the cut content from Fallout 3 for NV going there, the engine was unchanged

Now I wonder would all of the Powder Gangers join the Khans?

@@nickrustyson8124 No they are marked as a separate fraction.

@@Sofus. I mean it could be possible after Vault 19 to suggest to Eddy about the Khans

That dlc always seemed a bit empty to me though I loved the rain, fresh water (tho not sure how thatd be explained) and reading those journals from that one survivor. His story was so sad.

Yeah I would have changed quite a lot to make the story better. The intro cutscene sets up the people of new Canaan but then tells you that they evacuated earlier which is disappointing. I would have changed the beginning to have you and the caravan in the middle of a battle between the white legs and the dead horses and during the battle you follow a white leg tribal or follows chalk. Which faction you follow is the one you side with. I also would have put the new canaanites in the dlc but to do that would require expanding the map a bit and changing the story to accommodate them. It’s hard but the hard work would have made honest hearts a better dlc

As for the caravan they would survive if you chose to go with follows chalk and they would probably become merchants till the end of the dlc. One of the quests they give is to set up a trade deal with new Canaan and the dead horses and sorrows since that’s the whole reason they came in the first place. If you went with the white legs however, you would be forced to kill them eventually since you are in the way of them trading with new Canaan but if your speech skill was high enough you could intimidate them into leaving peacefully

I meant got so many ideas on improving new Vegas. If I was a modder I would put it into the game. I probably have over 100 quest ideas for the game like powder hanger quests where you help the doctor learn to treat addiction and rads which was cut or help them take over primm which was probably another way to settle the quest my kind of town. I would have even allowed them to fight with you in the second battle of Hoover dam. If you got them to side with house, then he would reward them by making them the 4th family of vagas. If you somehow convinced them to help the nice them they would get pardons. If with the legion then they would betray them and all the powder hangers would be dead. If independent, they would terrorize the Mojave for years.

It’s also quite obvious that the fiends were supposed to be a faction with reputation but they ran out of time. Their quests would have been taking over outer Vegas and cam mccarren. One of the quests I would have put was helping cook cook poison the ncr food supply since they are having trouble with food in the game and cook cook being good with food would know how to poison them. This had the effect of lowering the ncr health to make it easier to kill them when you attack. The second cook cook quest would be to kidnap Betsy so you can use her as bait to lure first recon onto ambush and kill them, further weakening the camp. I also would have a quest where you plant bombs in the sewers so when you attack you can create holes in the ground where fiends can come out of so they don’t all appear from one spot and get destroyed. Driver Nephi would have you do quests to take over free side like kill mean son of a bitch or make an alliance with the scorpions gang for backup in the assault on west side. Violets quests would be harder since she’s the craziest of the fiends. She probably would be dealing with the ncr dogs in the camp. Finally before the assault motor runner would tell you they received a message from the spy in the camp for you to meet them and you would do the quest I put a spell on you. After that Curtis would help hsu escape the camp when you attack and retreat to Hoover dam where he could sabotage it from the inside which means more quests at Hoover dam. That’s what I would have done with the fiends

Which is a damn shame, because Benny is hilarious and has a really interesting backstory, and you could easily argue that his plans for New Vegas were the best (freedom from both Legion & NCR, but without Mr. House's overly strict Big Brother-style leadership). Add in the fact that ruling alongside a Loki-type character is far more entertaining than doing it on your own or with the "partnership" of a robot who literally can't ever say no. Plus he has "Pet The Dog" moments that show that is is not irredeemable (there are two routes at The Tops where he lets you go unharmed instead of sending assassins after you, plus he leaves Emily Ortal alone even though she is a dangerous witness who could tell his plans to House), so there was the potential for a villain's redemption arc too, and those are always fun. I 100% would have chosen to side with Benny if I had been allowed to.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one^