Triangulation: Why

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Dr. Rhoberta Shaler - Help for Toxic Relationships

Dr. Rhoberta Shaler - Help for Toxic Relationships

5 жыл бұрын

#Hijackals like to go through other people to get to you. They like to form alliances with others to upset you, manipulate you, or ruin your reputation.
What can you do about it?
Today's live stream will help you with strategies and strength to stop the triangulation--and to see it clearly for what it is: another method of abuse.
Find your way out of Toxic Relationships is imperative to saving your sanity!
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* * Remember, narcissists and other toxic people come in all genders and ages * *
and toxic relationships can be at home, at work, at play... with your parent, boss, spouse, sibling, friend, co-worker.
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I am Dr. Rhoberta Shaler, The Relationship Help Doctor.
Are you in relationship with a Hijackal? That's someone who consistently puts you down, love-bombs and gaslights you, creates confusion and chaos, and causes you to second-guess yourself? I can help you recognize, understand, and make decisions about those kinds of narcissistic behavior…and especially, how to keep yourself (and your children) safe and sane.
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@kathrynsingh6312
@kathrynsingh6312 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I’m Kathryn and this is my first time on commenting… I’m 53 and I just learned that I am the Scapegoat…
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I hope it will clarify things for you and you'll use that information to realize it had nothing to do with who you actually are, and everything to do with who the Hijackals are.
@8ballame
@8ballame 5 ай бұрын
Pa​@@ForRelationshipHelp
@kaystephens2672
@kaystephens2672 Жыл бұрын
Yep. If they know you want something, even from an early age, they'll make sure you never get it. Awesome insight.
@notagain779
@notagain779 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Shaler, Your mother should have seen the beauty in you, and been very proud to have such a daughter. It was her loss if she was blind to it. I'm convinced that not every person should have children if they aren't capable of actually seeing their sons or daughters for the unique people they are. You're very attractive and very lovable!
@thefaithfulheroine7928
@thefaithfulheroine7928 3 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how these individuals can manipulate so easily. It is so very sad for everyone.
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is so sad...and frustrating, infuriating, depressing, and endlessly tiring, too.
@denisevalley9021
@denisevalley9021 3 ай бұрын
Denise from Iowa. Married for 30 years to a covert! Lies, decit, and triangulation to all his family and our own children. No remorse, either! Thank you! You are 💯 right on!
@wistfulselkie6578
@wistfulselkie6578 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you do 🙏🏼❤️ I gain so much insight from you. My narc husband will tell me that the only way he can get through to me is by yelling at me and getting intense. He says this with a smile on his face. What he really means is the only way he can force me into submission when I disagree with him or to violate my boundaries is by getting loud and dominating. I try so hard to honor my boundaries but when he decides to yell, degrade me and punish me with the silent treatment for days on end it is so hard to not just give in. I have no energy left.
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome. Please see his Silent Treatment as a peaceful time where you are unbothered by his silence. I know that can be difficult as you may be trauma-bonded and plead for him to talk with you. If you can enjoy the silence and refuse to beg him to talk with you, it will be healthier!
@Mnalotus-pk1pc
@Mnalotus-pk1pc 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! When you said “hijackels don’t find any use in you unless you make them look good.” It hit me so hard! My parents always told everyone how great I was academically and I was accepted to a magnet school and I was their “smart” kid who couldn’t get enough of school. I see this pattern repeat with my husband. People ask him how he got with me and how beautiful and kind I am. And wow. I’ve learned so much from this episode thank you so much for doing this work and helping others with this.
@rheanelken2918
@rheanelken2918 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found your channel. My relatives pit eachother and other members of the family - and the community at large - against me by sensationalizing non-truths or lopsided ones, AND ppl FALL for it! There is NO excuse. We were ALL abused and I don't do that to them. I confront their *behaviour* and then they twist that back on me, too. Then they take public credit for my "acceptable" behaviour, while placing me square in the dog house. They also steal my ideas and insights so they appear enlightened. Then when I pull away so they don't have access, I get blamed...even if they have spent literal DECADES estranged. And yes the whole "she (she = me) is off her rocker and I *kahnt undahstaaaaahnd whyyyyyyy she is soooo cruel!" 🤢🤢🤢
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found my channel, too! I hope you stick with the "pulling away" strategy and leave them far behind. It's difficult, and it is a great move to save your sanity and health. They take up too much mental and emotional space in our heads otherwise.
@rheanelken2918
@rheanelken2918 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForRelationshipHelp Wow! I didn't expect a reply. Well, my mother died in Sept, and a couple of the sibs are legally 'in charge' and pulling rank. I'm third in line to be exdcutor (despite being primary caregiver), so I have to keep the line open until we find out who has authority over mum's debts. Anyway, thanks for your work. I'm considering a one-on-one, just have to plan it out.
@cartermusic2020
@cartermusic2020 23 сағат бұрын
I love this woman ❤ what a beautiful legacy. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
@chrisb4653
@chrisb4653 2 жыл бұрын
So glad that you're here too! Wonderful, you're a fairy!!! Your true words go into my body and soul like an antidote, thank you so much!
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear that you find the videos helpful. You're so welcome!
@kathrynsingh6312
@kathrynsingh6312 3 жыл бұрын
My mother has been using me my whole life in triangulation abuse with my father and now that he has passed away my whole life/family shifted with my mom triangulation/conditioning my 3 brothers separately to come at me physically so angry from my mom saying that I’m elderly abusing her. You have a calming and very on point of your speaking with my language… but I can’t speak….. I’m so lost for my words
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
That's sad and difficult. I hope you can create distance from your brothers and mother, if not physically then, at least, emotionally.
@MaileyMcAslan
@MaileyMcAslan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat. It got so much worse after my dad died. When I warned (stupidly) my mother that I needed the abuse to stop and my medical needs addressed or I would be forced to go to the authorities for help (which, in 2021, was NOT going to be the cops, ffs), she made a preemptive strike (or got someone to report me for her, idk which, and I’ll never know) and I GOT IN TROUBLE. I couldn’t even leave the house to get help for myself - no driver’s license because I didn’t jump out of bed on my birthday two years ago when she woke me up yelling at me like a rabid drill sergeant to go now or forget it. I could barely even take a shower and dress myself 2 years ago. I was told by state protective services I could not have an angry tone with my 82 year old mother. Honestly, I’m still confused on that point. It doesn’t matter that I’m half deaf and part of the “tone” was me trying to freaking hear myself. It doesn’t matter that I’m practically disabled and in terrible chronic pain and adrenal exhaustion every day of my life for decades. It doesn’t matter that my mother was perfectly happy with me lying in agony and exhaustion in bed for 3 1/2 years with no medical intervention. It doesn’t matter that, beyond all expectation, I managed to get out of my death bed last year and drag my body back into a semblance of health. It doesn’t matter that I started my art and music back and am building a business to try and support myself. Self esteem, confidence, happiness, joy, peace, purpose, security, re-engaging with the world … 👈 All of which really ramped up the abuse and sabotage, btw. It doesn’t matter that I have Aspergers and truly didn’t understand stupid people games and didn’t get the manipulations. It just drove me bat sh!t crazy and made me sick and I got red flagged and labeled and pathologized and over medicated. They just go for the low hanging fruit and easy prey - I’ll forever be the one with the problem since I couldn’t hide it like they can. It doesn’t matter any of my difficulties arising from my family’s abuses, I just still have to be the scapegoat and they want me to take the blame and shame and accountability and further modify myself for everyone else’s benefit while they get to continue being pure jerks to me. And she’s been yelling and screaming at me and abusing and manipulating and sabotaging me my whole life, and continues to do so in the worst ways. And as the scapegoat, I’ve been trained my whole life to never even be able to see my side of the story so I could never defend myself. I finally find out what this abuse is, why I’ve been NUTS and so beaten down my whole life, and because she’s reached a certain age she still can’t be held accountable or talked to in a certain way, although she does it to me. Who was there for me when I was a very young age? Nobody. Nobody could be. She had it sewn up and under control and I knew better than to ask for any outsider’s help. I ran away for the first time at 4 - they just sent me home. I still can’t get any real help. It’s a fkn JOKE. Our parents had free reign to hit us, yell at us, completely shut us down and break us and that was the status quo … then they changed the rules on the same generation and we lose AGAIN. They win. Now I just can’t speak to her at all. The government agent’s opinion on “verbal abuse” (which she admitted was based solely on my TONE) scared me into the very silence I used to employ as a terrified child to stay “safe.” I have to run from the room when she tries to engage me. And worry that that’s somehow neglectful of her great age and needs. And wait wait wait for the government’s verdict on my angry tone. I’m working very hard to get away - still not well, need expensive, ongoing medical care, no income, zero allies, having to figure out all the logistics of the terribly confusing world of regulations and rules and laws and red tape and show me your papers and do it all with zero help after decades of being isolated and utterly alone. With God’s help I can do it. Btw, I think it’s NUTS to not have a slightly angry tone when you’re angry. That’s what THE COVERT ABUSERS DO. Especially when you’re only using what your abysmal parents gave you and taught you to use. It’s beyond me how some people who should be able to see and understand are SO CLUELESS. And they get paid to be very very ignorant and very very powerful at the same time.
@leslieyancey5084
@leslieyancey5084 5 жыл бұрын
This is so spot on!
@kikit0732
@kikit0732 7 ай бұрын
when I cried, my parents only said “Oh my gosh, I can’t believe this!…” and then they walked out of the room, very far away in the house. And it seemed like they would purposely create an air of ringing silence. I would feel the worst pain in my stomach, chest, and the front of my head. It was awful. I still hate when people do that to me, even if I’m not crying.
@imgdroxz484
@imgdroxz484 Жыл бұрын
I’m dealing with this situation now I need to make an appointment Merry Christmas ❤
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp Жыл бұрын
It's difficult, I know. I look forward to talking with you soon. www.BeAClient.com
@catewalton6204
@catewalton6204 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a horrible sad situation when your own children are flying monkeys.
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is! And, unfortunately, it happens too frequently. Children don't have the brain development or life experience to discern what's happening in most cases. And, older teens and adult children have been raised with it. So sad, disappointing, and difficult.
@catewalton6204
@catewalton6204 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForRelationshipHelp HI, when I try and access the website it says safari can't find the page. :(
@carynm.4662
@carynm.4662 3 жыл бұрын
Getting caught up. So many light bulb moments! Over 10 years later, I can now FINALLY see how the hijackal and the triangulated people in my family have thrown the new "me" up in my face. She has since been replaced. (I guess getting charged with a crime made her less appealing.) But, none of the substitute folks ARE me. As a wise being once said, "There ain't no thing like me, 'cept me!"
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm glad to hear that you're gaining clarity and learning more about how #Hijackals operate. It's nasty, for sure! I wish you well. Rhoberta
@ms.voicer3214
@ms.voicer3214 Жыл бұрын
He constantly talks about his female friends and all the things they do for him. It makes me feel like I’m not good enough.
@pattyrooney1323
@pattyrooney1323 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this.
@glendamorrison5159
@glendamorrison5159 3 жыл бұрын
I have to confess I have been a hijackal. Forgiveness I pray I give and ask for forgiveness.
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Forgiveness is one thing. Curbing the behaviors is the real deal.
@eddiej9745
@eddiej9745 2 жыл бұрын
I have a sister who would probably use someone like you (a psychiatrist) to convince me im the highjackal and crazy. She puts everything back on to me. My sister has convinced my family im the devil and im crazy, shes even isolated me from my extended family because when i told her i dont want to see her shes made is sound like i dont want to see them. She has destroyed my reputation with my extended family. She uses other people to do this and is so sneaky she can tie me up so well in things im supposed to have done that i had to give up and flee. She plays the victim and ive seen her do it to her sister in law as well.....she looks like butter wouldnt melt in her mouth but she is dangerous. Im not the only sibling she did this to, the only reason she wasn't able to get my parents to reject me was because i said to them "Aren't you sick of losing daughters to Catherine's talk" and "Shes trying to turn me into another Elizabeth" (my other sister) She would tie me up like a trussed turkey and there is no way i can fight back. I cant go to extended family get together's, im not invited anyway.....because god knows what shes said. If i ever tried to ask what was wrong i was told i was too sensitive or crazy, my brother exploded at me once because i asked him what was wrong and why is seemed to angry with me, she uses people to fight her battles for her..... Even my son said to me once that she was trying to destroy me and that i needed to cut her loose, which i did. I have heard back via the grapevine that im unhappy and that im anorexic etc....the kinds of things that make me sound crazy. She would use you as a weapon.
@jaydixson1731
@jaydixson1731 Жыл бұрын
My ex best friend of 30 years was love bombing and tri angulating my wife. That immediately ended our friendship and I never responded to the Hoovers
@amothergoddess2774
@amothergoddess2774 Жыл бұрын
YES, I COULDN'T BELIEVE MY HI-JACKAL SISTERS BELIEVED MY HIJACKAL MOTHER OVER ME, I'M NOT ONE TO TELL LIES, BUT NOW I REALISE THEY WERE ALL TALKING BEHIND MY BACK!
@DJ-fh7xn
@DJ-fh7xn Жыл бұрын
You are bang on so yrue
@flavioaraujo-lk4oj
@flavioaraujo-lk4oj 3 ай бұрын
Thank you verry much
@DJ-fh7xn
@DJ-fh7xn Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@cinduhughes3351
@cinduhughes3351 7 ай бұрын
I dont trust anyone they will always disappoint u n be jealous of u n what u got. Tell ppl nothing so they cant use it against u
@smallhouseinthemeadow6131
@smallhouseinthemeadow6131 3 жыл бұрын
My mother gossips about me with my son and her neighbors, then trys to engage me in gossip about them.She says terrible things about her neighbor and I am always protecting her neighbor because I love her.I wish that she was my mother instead.My mother is jealous of me talking with anyone else.The other day she had me watch a sad story on t.v. and then made fun of me when I got teary-eyed over it.I felt set up. I told her that she should be happy that she has an HSP for a daughter and she told me that I am "too sensitive for my own good"...Ugh.She is exhausting.
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that you're having these troubling difficulties. I'm sure it is exhausting. People with Hijackal tendencies do like to set up others and then degrade or make fun of them. You might find listening to this podcast episode of mine eye-opening or affirming: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsucatGBr8uncYk.html I wish you well.
@risingeagle6332
@risingeagle6332 Жыл бұрын
Tell your story in 1 to 2 seconds by way of allegory, analogy or metaphor without the nasty details. I was able to heal this way, by not repressing my experience. I shared details when it was relevant and useful. I did the research, went into therapy with Crisis Trauma-bond psychologist familiar with Hijackals. General counselors and therapist are typically not trained or skilled enough to help victims of the hijackals. I often found my self educating the therapist and counselors; which added to my anxiety. Get with therapist who fully understand what trauma bonds are and how they wound the victims. Ensure therapist and counselors are fully knowledgable about Stockholm Syndrome, gaslighting and CPTSD, NPD Abuse and the debilitating Grief Cycle that results from psychological abuse at the hands of Narcissist with NPD.
@asdfgnmyuiopxcvbhjkl
@asdfgnmyuiopxcvbhjkl 10 ай бұрын
should i expose? for my mental health. i’m isolated and have been threatened with everything under the sun. debating going to civil court
@cynthialucasmoore6106
@cynthialucasmoore6106 8 ай бұрын
Yes. I'm here,, please help
@annefaulk9489
@annefaulk9489 3 жыл бұрын
Why do the parents believe someone who lies out of there teeth and act like they don't believe you?
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Usually, because it is convenient for them, they have Hijackal tendencies themselves, or they are under the power and manipulation of a lying Hijackal. Any chance one of those options is what's going on in your situation?
@annefaulk9489
@annefaulk9489 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForRelationshipHelp it sounds alot like my parents believing my sister who's a pathological lier and will bend over backwards for her.
@annefaulk9489
@annefaulk9489 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForRelationshipHelp my father said she is very honest but I know she lies out her teeth like one night she tried saying my clothes basket was hers and I said this is my clothes basket
@annefaulk9489
@annefaulk9489 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForRelationshipHelp how do you correct this behavior. My mom's even has told me I'm too far away but will go to my sister who lies in the blink of an eye. And she's 100 miles away
@cynthialucasmoore6106
@cynthialucasmoore6106 8 ай бұрын
Hi Shannon
@sunshine-db2zm
@sunshine-db2zm 5 ай бұрын
How do you deal with flying monkey's who are important to you but the narc uses them to get to you
@cynthialucasmoore6106
@cynthialucasmoore6106 8 ай бұрын
Hello everyone 😊
@cinduhughes3351
@cinduhughes3351 7 ай бұрын
Ppl r evil trust no one
@asdfgnmyuiopxcvbhjkl
@asdfgnmyuiopxcvbhjkl 10 ай бұрын
help my own family talked me out of staying at the dv shelter. i gave up my rapid rehousing application. i would’ve been free by now but they sabotaged me and my efforts at healing really bad. came back to abuser with 3 babies but his untreated alcoholic and addiction mixed with his abuse isn’t even the problem anymore, it’s something wah worse. he’s allowing his narc family to bury me. his dad is so abusive, he drove his son to drugs as well as me this month to a drug like state no drugs needed lol i’m cut off from everything afraid to leave my cat here alone
@cinduhughes3351
@cinduhughes3351 7 ай бұрын
Hi Roberta u help so many. Ppl I'm. Cindy my sister's n friends n ex's did to me I'm strong like a. Lion. Bring it on. Power
@annefaulk9489
@annefaulk9489 3 жыл бұрын
So. If you know a family member is very truthful and you know the other one really lies all the time how does that look like and why do they do that. And turn it around on you.
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Liars lie to be right, to change the unconvenient narratives, to confuse, to create chaos, because they can, and in the case of pathological liars, because that's who they are. If the truthful member of your family believes the liar, that's a big issue. Hold your ground, state your truth in factual terms, and give the lie no power. I wish you well with that. It's difficult, I know.
@annefaulk9489
@annefaulk9489 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForRelationshipHelp that is my sister for you. She's even told my dad I was taking him to court and he got mad at me. I told him what are you talking about I'm not taking you to court
@annefaulk9489
@annefaulk9489 2 жыл бұрын
So in that case should I just block my sister out of my life
@annefaulk9489
@annefaulk9489 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've tried standing my ground but I've even caught my parents in lies. Like my dad saying she's very truthful
@kelllykimbrough47
@kelllykimbrough47 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any hope if you are married to one and love them?
@ForRelationshipHelp
@ForRelationshipHelp 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! The only hope is to figure out your exact situation. Every #Hijackal is a little different, as is every family. Loving them makes it more difficult to see them clearly and recognize the need to change. Hijackals seldom change, except for a hot minute when they think you're going to leave them. They "hoover" and "love-bomb" to make you think they care and are changing. As soon as they feel secure again, they drop the act and behave as their bad selves again.
@m.asammy3049
@m.asammy3049 3 жыл бұрын
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💞
@cinduhughes3351
@cinduhughes3351 7 ай бұрын
I dont get close to anyone i talk to. God who has tooken care of me family is close either didnt protect us abused till i left 15years old didnt look back didnt choose r parents
@cinduhughes3351
@cinduhughes3351 7 ай бұрын
Ppl r battlefield of their own. Minds n cant reason with ppl who ill in their. Brains
@bodymindsoul60
@bodymindsoul60 2 жыл бұрын
Hello
@LadyLuck8_4
@LadyLuck8_4 10 ай бұрын
Sure, well said but not these people are narcissists, they may have narcissistic style or be plain toxic. Not all of these people have a cluster b personality disorder
@user-oq3et5kc6v
@user-oq3et5kc6v Жыл бұрын
They all believed the jackle children 3 sisters All because they wanted to children for promised Monel alcohol designer clothes and drugs daily take outs concerts promise of cars 🚘 Sisters got their chance to down me due to long held jealousy so they looked better than they are
@taraarrington2285
@taraarrington2285 Жыл бұрын
They bring in so many flying monkeys 🤷
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