Rory Stewart: “We’re Living in a World of Fairy Tales”

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Rory Stewart is a British academic, broadcaster, and former diplomat and politician. 💥Join us on our Journey to 1 Million Subscribers💥
He served as a Conservative Member of Parliament for Penrith and The Border from 2010 to 2019 and was a junior minister in four government departments from 2015 to 2019, holding the posts of Minister for the Environment, Minister of State for International Development, Minister of State for Africa, and Minister of State for Prisons. He ultimately joined the Cabinet and National Security Council as Secretary of State for International Development. He resigned from the Conservative Party in October 2019. His memoir Politics on the Edge (published in the US as How Not to Be a Politician) was a best-seller. In March 2022, Stewart and Alastair Campbell launched The Rest Is Politics podcast, which tops politics podcast ratings in the UK most weeks.
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00:00 Trailer
00:48 What is conservatism?
03:00 The damage done by Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Brexit
04:42 Our big problems are structural not due to incompetence
08:50 Why the Tories failed on housing
17:22 I’m worried the Conservatives will lurch in the direction of Reform
19:28 I’ve got big problems with Rishi Sunak
21:06 SPONSOR: Shopify
22:23 What the Conservative Party needs to do
25:03 The inefficiency of the Civil Service
28:09 The fairy story of ‘we shouldn’t have to choose’
32:42 The fairy story of ‘the market solves everything’
34:33 The dangers of populism
38:43 Aren’t people right to have an issue with uncontrolled immigration?
45:44 We should be careful not to ‘move fast and break things’
47:17 We’ve seen the bad results of populism
51:20 The system is screwed
52:53 Keir Starmer doesn’t even know what a woman is!
54:16 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?

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JOIN our Locals community to hear *Rory* answer audience questions: triggernometry.locals.com/ CHAPTERS👇 00:00 Trailer 00:48 What is conservatism? 03:00 The damage done by Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Brexit 04:42 Our big problems are structural not due to incompetence 08:50 Why the Tories failed on housing 17:22 I’m worried the Conservatives will lurch in the direction of Reform 19:28 I’ve got big problems with Rishi Sunak 21:06 SPONSOR: Shopify 22:23 What the Conservative Party needs to do 25:03 The inefficiency of the Civil Service 28:09 The fairy story of ‘we shouldn’t have to choose’ 32:42 The fairy story of ‘the market solves everything’ 34:33 The dangers of populism 38:43 Aren’t people right to have an issue with uncontrolled immigration? 45:44 We should be careful not to ‘move fast and break things’ 47:17 We’ve seen the bad results of populism 51:20 The system is screwed 52:53 Keir Starmer doesn’t even know what a woman is! 54:16 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?

@alistairbolden6340 10 күн бұрын

He lives in a bubble and has never been to Birmingham in his life. Its disgusting how disconnected with reality he is. Most people do not give a cr** about the environment or how someone in a lovely little village in Sussex feels about preserving the landscape. The right wings job is to fight against all of the left wing issues, cut to the core each issue and remove anything that gets in the way. For example if environmental laws are preventing the building of power stations or housing then remove the laws that are problematic. The left will always look to add red tape and extra laws the right should be always trying to remove as many laws as possible, it should be pro freedom.

@Avidcomp 10 күн бұрын

Francis.. and Constantin ... ALERT @08:50 Why the Tories failed on housing. If you watch the documentary Ex Nihilo: The Truth About Money (on KZfaq) it explains how our monetary system is the main driver of this and many of our other problems. Watch the whole documentary, but for those too lazy to learn, new credit is created through commercial banks and additionally Government gilts (for all their spending) are created out of thin air and with the BoE buying them up, we have currency devaluation, which drives the new now money first into the financial markets, which intern are pushed into asset classes such as housing - artificially created cheap money, devaluing the pound and driving prices of everything up. Seriously, watch the documentary and someone get the boys on Trigonometry to watch it as well.

@kevindavis5772 9 күн бұрын

His rhetoric on populism about was and displaced people, was not by populist government this was under liberal left governments.

@acfiv1421 9 күн бұрын

Conservatism is not that hard to define. Conservatism is based on prudent skepticism - Look before you leap. Not all ideas are good, no matter how well-intentioned they may be. What are the consequences of implementing a new idea? Will you solve one problem but create three more? If a new project, after being implemented, turns out to to have bad unintended consequences, is there a way to backtrack? These are questions that progressives and leftists never, ever ask, which is why everything turns to crap whenever they take charge. Conservatives are supposed to ask those questions and be the adult in the room. It is not as sexy and exciting as progressives who charge ahead no matter what. That is why it is important that the electorate is educated in how to think logically, and understand the behavior of governments, bureaucracies and organizations - topics that progressives have effectively removed from our schools' curriculums for exactly this reason.

@DebateKing69 9 күн бұрын

All I hear from this guy is "no accountability" !!!! It isn't us MPs is the civil service blah blah blah ? I thought the MPs TOLD them what to do ? Is the tail wagging the dog ? If you wanted the real reason why cons are doomed its people like this guy ! Complete pass the book coward elite ! It was typified by his comment of "we should get female judges from Afghanistan" ! I mean what the hell does that have to do with the UK taking in people from round the world ? The problem isn't with the civil service its with people like HIM !

@MissUltimaThule 10 күн бұрын

As a commercial archaeologist working in UK construction I can tell you that archaeology doesn’t prevent housing being built. We literally excavate and remove entire Roman and Medieval cemeteries to make way for housing. The problem seems to me to be that once built the housing is massively expensive and out of the price range of most young people hoping to start a family.

@SerMattzio 10 күн бұрын

Part of this is because inviting millions of people into the country every year also generates an insane artificial demand for housing. These MPs know this. They don’t care because a lot of them have mates that make a fortune off of it.

@mogznwaz 9 күн бұрын

Housing owned by foreign investors, given to immigrants but paid for by the taxpayer m. A total and utter scam

@martinpaddle 9 күн бұрын

In my town, a big construction project was stopped because of archeological finds. In any case, this was just one of many examples.

@MissUltimaThule 9 күн бұрын

@@martinpaddle ⁠⁠ I mean ‘finds’ don’t stop construction. Archaeological investigation can cause *delays* in the planning process as there can be surprises. Generally a good heritage assessment of archaeological potential in the proposed development area should limit these surprises and keep the client’s timeline on schedule, but obviously you can never be 100% sure. A site would have to be of world heritage level significance to actually permanently halt the planning process. Normally we’re in and out before people even know there’s an open ex under way. We do it because people care about heritage, and we’re paid very little considering the industry we’re attached to.

@eighteenfiftynine 9 күн бұрын

We wouldn't _need_ to destroy our heritage for housing if we simply stopped importing people and stopped supporting the breakdown of families. Our birthrate is below replacement.

@andrejota1151 10 күн бұрын

One thing I will say is that Rory is describing the problem with how government is run. You can't get anything done at all. Imagine if Gov had the sole job of developing mobile phones we would still be carrying those giant dial bricks.

@Bward888 9 күн бұрын

This is why I favour a more authoritarian form of government. It's impossible to address fundamental problems if you're being hamstrung by dozens of procedural and legalistic elements that are preventing you from doing anything, or are forcing you in to an ineffective compromise position that nobody actually wants. Our current problems will never be resolved inside of a liberal democratic framework.

@peterbennett7176 8 күн бұрын

I can’t quite tell if your serious or not. But just to point out what you probably mean when you say you are in favour of a more authoritarian government is I’m more in favour of an authoritarian government that completely agrees with me. The trouble with authoritarian governments is you don’t get much say in what they think so you’re actually just as likely to end up with one that thinks the exact opposite. Which I’m guessing you probably wouldn’t like.

@andrejota1151 8 күн бұрын

@@peterbennett7176 authoritarian regimes won’t happen in the UK but here’s an interesting thought for you would you consider someone like Tim Cook or Elon Musk to be an authoritarian? My issue with the UK government is as Rory and Sulla has described its very hard to get anything done in WM. I mean what’s the solution here? This is what I got out of the interview is that the UK is going to have to make some tough decisions to sort out this mess but I don’t see it happening. There’s a lot of other problems to discuss but the way I see things going the only way out of this is if UK be comes like Singapore.

@Bward888 8 күн бұрын

@@peterbennett7176 Oh golly gosh. I never considered that! Thanks. Better stick with this democratic system that has delivered nothing that I want for my entire life, and my only option is to vote it out and replace it with a fundamentally ideologically identical government that also delivers nothing that I want. I suppose I COULD eventually see a government elected that wanted to do something that I would agree with, but wouldn't be able to do anything because of an obstructionist legal structure and civil service that the government is powerless to do anything about.

@jacqdanieles 7 күн бұрын

@@andrejota1151yes, Tim Cook or Musk or any CEO does operate like an authoritarian. Within certain parameters, they call the shots. But a country is not a corporation. In a corporation, if the employees or customers are unhappy with the decisions made by management, they can simply leave & the corporation will ultimately fold. Citizens of a country can't do that. That is why they can demand a say in how the leaders run the country.

@esotericagenda 8 күн бұрын

Sounds like he's essentially saying you have to accept what you get, because to demand better is populism, and therefore inherently bad.

@sergarlantyrell7847 5 күн бұрын

No but you do have to accept there is no magic wand that will solve everything. And tending towards over-simplification and radical solutions that promise everything but end up doing more damage.

@garylake1676 Күн бұрын

You could say this about any political party, it is a puerile argument as all political promises are 'fairy tails'.

@RaveyDavey 8 күн бұрын

If Rory is right, and we really need the current levels of migration (c.700,000 extra people a year, 1.2million entering to stay long term) just to run our services, then we're screwed and we need a totally different economic model. Because that is not doable. We cannot build enough houses for 700,000 extra people a year. We're cannot recruit and setup enough doctors, police, fire stations, expand the NHS, upgrade our roads and rail, produce enough water and power etc. And in a few years, we'd need MORE than that for it to scale up to the now larger population. That's an insane Ponzi scheme. And that's just economically. The Coleman projection predicts White British down to 54% of the population by 2061. That's an unrecognisable country. Is that what we really want?

@endaohalloran6649 6 күн бұрын

Yes you can because Britain went through periods of larger population increases in its history when it had much higher birth rates than it does now and was able to build accordingly There's no difference in a population increasing from births or immigration when it comes to building more housing for the future You're ignoring the fact there's always natural emigration from the country and older people dying. Every day And the fact those expansions in services can use the new labour arriving to fill that expansion A growing economy needs more labour to function. And Britain is an aging population with an educated population that doesn't want to work low paying jobs at the levels necessary to function. Immigration fixes these problems. It doesn't create them

@stleonards1066 5 күн бұрын

@@endaohalloran6649 sorry, what were the periods of larger population increase?

@endaohalloran6649 5 күн бұрын

@@stleonards1066 sure, throughout almost the entirety of the 19th century up until WW1 the population growth rate in Britain was around 1% per year. It bounced back to 1% for a few years after WW1. And again after WW2 during the baby boom it was 1% for a few years with the last being in the early 60s From the Early 60s until 2000 the increase was below .5%. Sometimes barely over 0%. And then with EU expansion in the early 2000s the increase rose to average around .7% for the last 20 years Britain grew economically and housed people during these population increases before when they were even higher than they are today

@stleonards1066 5 күн бұрын

@@endaohalloran6649 they were presumably not higher in absolute numbers though. I imagine 0.7% now is far higher than 1% in the 19th century. We can't go on having 1% growth in population when our population is already in the millions, the problem becomes exponentially more difficult to deal with with each year.

@stleonards1066 5 күн бұрын

also the periods you mentioned were periods of growth through birth rates whereas now it's almost entirely immigration or the children of immigrants so it has a completely different social dynamic

@howecreative 10 күн бұрын

The irony of saying "we're living in a world of fairy tales" when you host a podcast with Alistair Campbell is mind-melting.

@Locke350 10 күн бұрын

Neocons/Leftard Hawks, two sides of the same globalist warmongering coin.

@fredo1070 10 күн бұрын

Exactly, most of the world's problems for the last 20 years are caused by Alastair Campbells lies.

@Leeds71 10 күн бұрын

Yep, one of the most vile ever in the UK who worked for the poster person for evil - interesting alliances, says a lot

@chasleask8533 10 күн бұрын

What the fuck is he droning on about ?

@fanfeck2844 10 күн бұрын

Typical politician saying everyone else is wrong and im right

@Notsram77 10 күн бұрын

I'm glad you had a voice on the show to talk, even if most of your audience don't agree with their ideas. It's good to get a little exposure to that from time to time.

@thetruth9210 4 күн бұрын

He had no great ideas

@LBBspock 9 күн бұрын

As an American I can tell you that once a government entitlement or agency is created on this side of the pond, it's nearly impossible to ever dismantle!

@charlesbrown1365 8 күн бұрын

A very good thing : people are truly entitled to their entitlements.

@davekeehn8388 7 күн бұрын

All roads seem to lead to the bureaucracy.

@Tiasung 7 күн бұрын

@@davekeehn8388 Its called ''the system'' for a reason.

@ParaquatSC 6 күн бұрын

@@davekeehn8388 well the alternative is dictators or feudalism as far as we've every found out.

@davekeehn8388 6 күн бұрын

@@ParaquatSC Or perhaps we could tone down regulating everything under the sun and not pay hundreds of thousands of people to be our feudal masters.

@thetruth9210 4 күн бұрын

We don't have to sacrifice anything for our grandchildren we are sacrificing things for Immigrants

@richardvitty1745 Күн бұрын

We're sacrificing for our parents?

@thetruth9210 Күн бұрын

@@richardvitty1745 No your parents sacrificed to bring you into the world and look after you, to bring you up a decent human being feed you and cloth you and where possible treat you with holidays and presents on your birthday and Xmas. Many parents missed out themselves so that their kids come have things and even when your parents die they will have done their best to leave something behind for you

@gurnoorwalia9298 9 күн бұрын

Trudeau is not remotely fiscally conservative. 😂😂

@elgee6202 7 күн бұрын

There isn't even such a thing as "fiscally conservative". That just means free markets, which are liberalism. Proper conservatives advocates protectionism and what the French might call a dirigiste economy.

@gurnoorwalia9298 7 күн бұрын

@@elgee6202 i agree with you as i am not a loony free market fundamentalist but a conservative myself. But my point was addresing Rory’ absurd claim that Trudeau is a centrist and fiscal conservative.

@Xerus35 4 күн бұрын

@@gurnoorwalia9298 Conservative means different things in different countries. US republicans are also called conservative, but they are nothing like the conservatives here.

@cameronmiles645 4 күн бұрын

Hasn’t he continually lowered debt to GDP? apart from Covid years

@gurnoorwalia9298 4 күн бұрын

@@cameronmiles645 yeah just for two years out of his almost decade reign and that too by less than 2%

@nihilistlivesmatter 10 күн бұрын

Stewart thinks saying 1/2 percent of our population is more palatable and/or goes under the radar than the actual figure of 350k aka the size of a large city every year

@Nebulous361 10 күн бұрын

Agreed, it seems it managed to slip past the interviewers aswell. I had to rewind that bit several times as I assumed he meant 0.05. Absolutley fucking wild perspective, if these lunatics keep pushing in this direction, the right will produce someone who makes Farage look like Corbyn.

@123axel123 9 күн бұрын

He is talking about asylum seekers. In addition he wants other immigration. Then the asylum seekers will bring dependents. Rory is so deceptive.

@BB25_25 9 күн бұрын

But why would he want that many? I still don’t understand why people want to destroy the west, you can’t take this stuff with you when we die.

@maxwest6595 8 күн бұрын

It's the population of Reading

@nihilistlivesmatter 8 күн бұрын

@@maxwest6595 *It's twice the population of Reading

@richardmarquardt1477 9 күн бұрын

This guy called Trudeau fiscally responsible 😂😂😂

@amraceway 2 күн бұрын

Driven by private corporate demands.

@harryhall9777 Күн бұрын

He said fiscally conservative, which he is.

@Freedjabl 12 сағат бұрын

Yes, Canada only ran a budget deficit of 1.4% of gdp compared to 4.4% in Britain and 5.5% in France

@grahamsonofajack 9 күн бұрын

Easily the best prime minister we'll never have. His Politics on the Edge book is excellent.

@petegiant 10 күн бұрын

The number of immigrants in such a short space of time with no infrastructure to support them should be viewed as a crime against citizens.

@vrabgaz9944 9 күн бұрын

and the point he made very clearly is the alternative to that was total economic collapse

@aungkyawmoe8023 9 күн бұрын

@@vrabgaz9944 no. 1.5 millions and if you still have the same problem, there is a logical fallacy in your argument. out of 1.5 how many of them went to NHS and what other effects does the rest of it have? Immigrants are more tribal voters than the any person in west. (I can say it cause I live in one of those countries). You can see them radically changing your politics already. If you can't britishnize the Muslim migrants, you can't muslimize the Britain either. But the left wing type got moral superiority complex that they don't see themselves as equal man as Muslim migrants. They precieve themselves as morally superior enlightened liberal westerners who couldn't grasp the concept that Muslims as regular men having their own with tribal instincts. They see them as moral brownie points.

@MaherRo24 9 күн бұрын

@@vrabgaz9944 What is the net economic benefit of importing African Mohammedans who are illiterate in their own languages?

@Andy78L 9 күн бұрын

@vrabgaz9944 which is absolute rubbish

@vrabgaz9944 9 күн бұрын

@@Andy78L right and where are the millions of labourers nurses care home workers drivers farm workers etc etc etc whod all just sprout out of nowhere if they hadn't been imported?

@svenhaheim 10 күн бұрын

If you vote for the greens you have lost the plot and can not call yourself a conservative.

@joefuller1150 10 күн бұрын

Yeh it’s like he was in the Tory party just because he felt like it.

@Samhain__UK 10 күн бұрын

If you think a genuine Conservative can support the current party of buffoons (non of which are actually conservative) then you can’t call yourself a functioning human being. The party left Rory, he didn’t leave them.

@nyetzdyec3391 9 күн бұрын

I don't think I've EVER heard the Left described as being optimistic about the future. The *lack* of optimism is a large part of their motivation to CHANGE things. I would even say that nihilism is very common among the Left, perhaps even predominant.

@secretbassrigs 9 күн бұрын

These two are on the left by American standards and the song by the kinks really explains the UK well. Good luck . You'll need it.

@AdamIndikt 9 күн бұрын

@@nyetzdyec3391 Yes, it was a strange characterisation of the left and right in those terms. I think it’s an unexceptional comment to say most political movements have a positive view of the future (ironically except Greens, who are Malthusian to the extreme and see disaster everywhere). The difference to me seems to be that the left wants to get to their vision through destruction and rebuilding (year zero) and the right to get to theirs through building upon the heritage of their ancestors. The right also has a clearer and more positive vision of the future, given they base it on a tangible respect for the past. The left sees a future in only theoretical terms based on rejection of the past and present.

@Tukulti-Ninurta 8 күн бұрын

Brilliant explanation by Rory Stewart of why no politician can do anything ever.

@markie1aa 5 сағат бұрын

What does he mean we're "dependent on immigration"? We're "dependent on immigration" for the most catastrophic problems we now have & that we've ever had.

@TheGloriousRestoration 10 күн бұрын

This is ridiculous. He is so concerned about the 'values' of certain politicians that he is willing to go from Tory to Green. And yet he also tells us it doesn't matter who is in power because they can't do anything anyway. This is totally illogical. What then is his real concern? To preserve the culture and cohesion, not of the country as a whole, but of the elite class of which he is himself a member. This is the only explanation I can see for his being so down on Johnson, Farage etc. despite making all manner of excuses as to why governments can't do what we want them to do. People like this guy are the real roadblock to progress.

@Melanie_Star 10 күн бұрын

Do you not see Johnson & Farage as members of the elite class?

@joannleichliter4308 10 күн бұрын

There was a time when the "elites" had some moral underpinning and so could provide some protection against the destruction of the blind worship of change, masquerading as progress. Those days are gone, and, to paraphrase Yeats, every modern nation is indeed like the tower, half dead at the top.

@TheGloriousRestoration 10 күн бұрын

@@Melanie_Star of course. But they are not really accepted. Many of their peers go to extreme lengths to excommunicate them for not playing by the rules of that class.

@rext5299 10 күн бұрын

Well said. He is the reflection of what passes for a Republican in the US. They profess to be conservative but what they are conserving is their own asses. Anyone who challenges their version is ridiculed and demeaned for being "unrefined" in their understanding and methodology. Paradoxically, his version of conservatism is what really needs to be jettisoned.

@SworBeyE16 10 күн бұрын

The fact he shares a podcast with Alastair Campbell sums up all you need to know about his care for values and morality.

@seamusharris9341 4 күн бұрын

At 41 minutes Rory Stewart suggests bringing in asylum seekers totaling 0.5% of the population each year. . . Meaning that over the course of a decade you would have a population comprising 5% asylum seekers. After two decades you'd be at 10% asylum seekers - just asylum seekers, presumably on top of all the other immigrants that would no doubt be arriving. Where do the indigenous British people fit in exactly? Why are they expected to become a minority in their own nations? What happens at the point where Britain becomes enough of an overcrowded balkanized hellhole that nobody in their right mind would want to move there? Will British get offered asylum elsewhere once their country has been destroyed?

@thelimey351 7 күн бұрын

He is talking about agreeing to take 350,000 immigrants *EVERY* year - he’s nuts !

@frenchcat2910 6 күн бұрын

Scared?

@NorthernObserver 6 күн бұрын

@@frenchcat2910 Why do you want to live in rivers of mud?

@rych7852 6 күн бұрын

@@frenchcat2910 YEs. Its unsustainable!

@armingleiner5292 5 күн бұрын

@@frenchcat2910 Yes I dont want to live in Nigeria.

@jimpollard113 5 күн бұрын

@@frenchcat2910 Low quality thinker?

@JM_93 10 күн бұрын

Or “why listening to the public is problematic”

@brianlopez8855 10 күн бұрын

What do the "public" know about anything. Why would anyone ask them ?

@chickenfishhybrid44 10 күн бұрын

@brianlopez8855 sometimes I think that's fair. The problem is when people who will wield the idea of "democracy" as a weapon against their opponents or ideas they don't like but then will also say "well the public doesn't know right in this case anyway" lol

@tomtom21194 10 күн бұрын

@brianlopez8855 individually, not much. But if you ignore the people's general outlook and principles for too long you get the French revolution and your head gets chopped off. You can persuade the public to change their opinion over time, that's democracy, but ignoring your populace is dangerous. And it should be.

@spm36 10 күн бұрын

Clearly more than your average politician it seems@@brianlopez8855

@anglianreed5218 10 күн бұрын

@@brianlopez8855 'The public' presumably includes you among its number. Do you wish your views to be ignored by those who govern us, because "What do you know - why ask you anything"?

@DavidSmith-mo3dk 10 күн бұрын

It's not about LONDON it's about the COUNTRY. I can't listen anymore.

@dcoughla681 10 күн бұрын

Yes, exactly this.

@offshoretomorrow3346 10 күн бұрын

Did he really say 'Trudeau is Centre-Left'? And did KK let him off without comment?

@wills2864 10 күн бұрын

Too stuck up his own arse like most of the left!

@dcoughla681 10 күн бұрын

When asked where “Up North” was, the art historian, Brian Sewell, said anywhere outside of zone 1 on the tube map. Non-Londoners should look that up. I think Rory Stewart and his Professional Northerner buddy, Alastair Campbell, would say the same.

@mrror8933 10 күн бұрын

It's not about the party, it's about the country.

@mahoney86 9 күн бұрын

Why doesn't Rory address the problems that "populists" talk about? He just talks of it as itself

@james3744 7 күн бұрын

its all waffle, slippery waffle

@SM-mz2hz 6 күн бұрын

Because he'd get himself caught in a logic trap.

@Analogue_Cyclist 6 күн бұрын

He did address them but what I got was that the solutions are way more complex than people credit and that the lack of honesty about this is part of the problem. Finding people who know what the problems are is easy - really easy - finding people who know real, workable solutions and how to fix it things is much harder.

@SM-mz2hz 6 күн бұрын

@@Analogue_Cyclist The likes of Rory make things sound more difficult. Creating of just thought up barriers with his waffle..

@TibetanFox68 6 күн бұрын

@@Analogue_Cyclist Well, leaving the ECHR would be a start. We can't do anything if we constantly get things forced on us by law.

@johntaplin3126 5 күн бұрын

Never seen two guys look so less convinced by Rory's logic.

@wonderlabs_AI 10 күн бұрын

Rory's idea of accepting 0.5% of the UK population in asylum seekers works out as 350K people taken in each year.

@RichardEnglander 10 күн бұрын

Yes, and then knows we already have a housing EMERGENCY. He's a fucking joker

@Monkey-fv2km 9 күн бұрын

Which would be fine if they were culturally similar to the British and were distributed evenly around the country, rather than dumped in already population dense poor areas where the open borders middle class aren’t inconvenienced.

@RichardEnglander 9 күн бұрын

@@Monkey-fv2km no, it is too many low skilled people whose language and cultural differences are huge.

@shelleyscloud3651 9 күн бұрын

And yet he expresses surprised at the number of people on benefits! These people are barely literate in their own language! They’re of negative economic value to us!

@SaintGerbilUK 9 күн бұрын

350k is half what we currently take in and only 100k over the houses built. I disagree with him on many things but I think it was just a broad figure put out as a placeholder.

@GaryWarren-gn8zg 10 күн бұрын

One of the most disturbing things I find about Rory Stewart is that he doesnt speak of leftwing authoritarianism.

@Bailiol 9 күн бұрын

Agreed - I have heard him criticize the "identitarian left" in places, but it's always extremely muted. I think if he picked this issue up more aggressively, he might actually position himself as more of a unifying figure and be able to resolve some of the polarization.

@perikleshistory 9 күн бұрын

He's voting Green he is all for it

@teresauk31 9 күн бұрын

To be fair, he hasn't to my knowledge been asked about that, specifically. But perhaps he would say extremism always fails because whether far left or far right, they are big on control and want to force an ideology, and will force it by fair means or foul. It could be argued that centre-left/centre-right is the ideal position because it considers the needs of people but still is aware that a healthy and stable economy is vital because financial stress is the worst or most existential stressor apart from war and natural events such as earthquakes/volcanic eruptions.

@simonpapworth8974 9 күн бұрын

Absolutely, almost every single criticism he levelled against 'populism ' was equally applicable to left wing authoritarianism, and several were applicable to more general left wing policies.

@timsharkey5794 9 күн бұрын

Justin Trudeau centre left fiscallly conservative … can I have what rory’s smoking please? Also - returns on these housing developments - why is it always there is no magic money tree? Then they cut down the rainforest and spaff it elsewhere - keep it, spend it on us.

@GingerDrums 9 күн бұрын

The comments here say everything. Many people want simple solutions that involve a simple scapegoat. They want to blame "migration" or "The EU" and expect things to change once they have been removed and disgraced. The whole point here is that we are not ready to face the actual conversation: things are really difficult and we need to be willing to make harder and tougher compromises and ultimately accept being poorer in order to finance the structural and infrastructure changes that would be neccecary. Of course nobody is willing to accept or engage with these issues directly, let alone vote from a position of knowledge or understanding.

@GingerDrums 7 күн бұрын

@mikesmith1485 Hey Mike, thanks for your question. By single point of contact I mean ideas like "immigration" and "the EU" being responsible for englands problems as populists like Farrage would have it. Rory is, quite rightly, admitting to the difficulty of our situation and that there are no easy fixes. Hope that clears up what my waffle was about. Edit: I edited my OP to clarify. Wish you and england the best!

@davidbettney785 8 күн бұрын

The problem with popularism Rory, is that it is popular !

@alvindimes649 3 күн бұрын

That is exactly the problem, appeals to the thickos dog whistling 😅😊

@davidbettney785 2 күн бұрын

@@alvindimes649 Majority of the country must be thickos then, but it's better than being a clinically insane liberal :)

@kemuse1 Күн бұрын

The problem with populism is the people.

@davidbettney785 18 сағат бұрын

@@kemuse1 Mmmm, I think that was Stalin and Hitler's stance...The problem are the people...If only they'd fall inline !!!

@kemuse1 17 сағат бұрын

@@davidbettney785 Hitler was voted into power and had strong public approval. Stalin came into power as a result of a popular uprising. Trump tried the same (and failed, as per).

@FarObserver 10 күн бұрын

Rory doesn't realise he isn't conservative. I think it will be quite shocking to him when he figures this out about himself.

@offshoretomorrow3346 10 күн бұрын

He felt at home though. 95% of the party isn't conservative either - they're Blairite socialists.

@estelle4069 3 күн бұрын

Vengo ahora

@davidcoverdale722 Күн бұрын

I've read his book - well one of them - and he does realise that. He has a really bad blind spot for one particular type of "ideologically driven" immigrant though - and that's his problem.

@kevinlarkin5761 10 күн бұрын

I will watch this but I think I will end up thinking, who is this bloke and why does anyone care about his opinion

@allancrotch2953 10 күн бұрын

correct

@Radiatron18 10 күн бұрын

You can’t discover people if you don’t watch people you don’t know lol

@elminster8149 10 күн бұрын

@@Radiatron18 To be fair, I already had an idea about him. This interview has reinforced my opinion. Tories like him are the reason the party failed. Broad church, wrong religion.

@allancrotch2953 10 күн бұрын

@@Radiatron18 Why would you think I do not know Rory ?

@nautique1970 10 күн бұрын

@@elminster8149spot on 👍

@vthompson947 Күн бұрын

I continue to find it astonishing that a man who has worked in Afghanistan refuses to admit that humans can't change sex, that men are more aggressive than women, and that both sexes benefit from single-sex spaces.

@gsjame 8 күн бұрын

Who is going to feed all these people if suddenly the UK can’t import food? The population of theUK is unsustainable.

@AFGuidesHD 8 күн бұрын

pfftt, don't worry about such trivial things, China, Russia and America will always sell us food.

@ezioauditore3128 10 күн бұрын

PLEASE get this bloke back in as leader of the Tories. They will be finished.

@stephen655321 10 күн бұрын

Zero seats!

@Leeds71 10 күн бұрын

I'd rather put him in Labour since they are the same and try and kill that party off as well.

@januarysson5633 10 күн бұрын

@@ezioauditore3128 😂 😂 😂

@22448824 9 күн бұрын

@@chrisBaxter-ly8or You must be a boomer.

@pandowdy9947 9 күн бұрын

He has already proven himself to be utterly unelectable, long before the rest of his party did.

@Sarrrt7278 9 күн бұрын

Rory Stewart is someone I wouldn't normally listen to, so it was great to hear him on your show and to understand his viewpoint better, thanks for doing this interview.

@thetruth9210 4 күн бұрын

he pretended to be a Tory when he is not

@colindant3410 6 күн бұрын

The reason the UK 'needs' so many immigrants is because indigenous British people know that the wages of most public servants, such as nurses and teachers, don't cut the mustard in today's UK economy.

@involuntarilychad4048 4 күн бұрын

We insist upon people here in the UK, studying to do the jobs that we massively need, being subject to the same system of costs as everybody studying subjects for which there is no such national shortage (or in some cases even any basic need). We impose barriers upon the use of our own resources.

@chasingrainbows5288 3 күн бұрын

Absolutely nailed it, its often a trade off raise these wages and you'll find less need to fulfill these roles with immigration as the natives will take the roles. However it will often mean raises taxes, so choose would you want less immigration if it meant paying more tax?

@involuntarilychad4048 3 күн бұрын

@@chasingrainbows5288 Or reduce the cost barriers to people training for these roles and increase the labour supply? Wack up the tuition fees on useless degrees to compensate and don't depress the economy's ability to generate revenue for taxation by imposing tax rises upon it. By definition of stimulating the domestic supply of staff for the NHS, you both lower the need for tax rises to pay higher wages and the need for immigrants to supplement its workforce.

@JillessJack 10 күн бұрын

Why I'm not popular, by Rory Stewart.

@chrimbus71 10 күн бұрын

Hes a , i cant say the word

@ashfield1425 9 күн бұрын

😂😂

@splendidindifference 9 күн бұрын

His book is currently number 2 in the Amazon Nonfiction charts and has been in the Top 20 for 32 weeks - quite good for someone so unpopular. How is your book doing?

@chrimbus71 9 күн бұрын

@@splendidindifference hes popular amongst C o unt ry folk

@ashfield1425 9 күн бұрын

@@splendidindifference Why does anyone else need to write a book? What a silly thing to say? Rory is unpopular with traditional conservatives because he was in the Conservative Party when he should have been a Liberal Democrat. This guy was doing everything he could to thwart a democratic vote on Brexit. That’s why he is unpopular. He is only reinforcing on this interview that he was fooling anyone Conservative that he was a Conservative. He is not.

@m9saville 10 күн бұрын

He's a cheap impersonation of Blair. He literally just listed problems but came up with zero answers to them.

@Eric_Hunt194 10 күн бұрын

He looks like "Blair: The Methadone Years"

@elcristoph7380 10 күн бұрын

"He literally just listed problems but came up with zero answers to them." - That was literally his point, dumbass..

@edgar9651 10 күн бұрын

How often did you hear about the details of the problems he described? I.e. why housing is such a complicated issue. There are often complicated problems which have no easy solution. He acknowledges that fact and does not add another simple solution which won't work.

@m9saville 9 күн бұрын

@@edgar9651 But there is a solution to the housing problem. Control immigration to a sustainable level so we don't need a million new houses a year. Instead of running it like one big Ponzi scheme.

@QuirkyRobots. 9 күн бұрын

Yes, his mirror neurons were in overdrive. Maybe he could apply for Britain’s Got Talent as an impressionist 😂

@NeoN-PeoN 7 күн бұрын

This man seems like a perfectly likable, intelligent man. But then he called all those politicians like Macron "slightly center-left and FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE". What? I'm sorry? This makes me think he's not as smart as he might first seem. Either that, or he's willing to lie.

@dazzle4708 6 күн бұрын

He’s not talking about Macron or Trudeau, he’s talking about David Cameron who implemented financial austerity, and he’s lumping them together because they have the same vibes.

@alexwood1390 5 күн бұрын

I admire Rory and think he's a very insightful commentator with a wealth of experience, especially on international issues, but I'm often flabbergasted by what he characterises as left or right. He frequently refers to centre-left Conservatives in the UK for example, when conservatism IS right wing (though of course a Tory can be left-wing on specific issues). I can only conclude that hes somehow conceptualising left vs right not in absolute terms based on ideology, but in terms of how they compare to each other, almost in some BBC-esqcue false kind of "balance". The problem with this is that the Overton window can shift a lot, and it has swung to the right in the UK. Thats how we get quite moderate social democrat or democratic socialist [principles labelled as "far-left" and lumped with communism, while some quite strong anti-immigrant and authoritarian views are seen as just "right-wing" And I say all this as a broadly leftist who is HIGHLY critical of how far many on the left have gone on a lot of issues

@dazzle4708 5 күн бұрын

@@alexwood1390 I completely agree that he does have an odd perception of the Overton window, but there is a legitimate argument for the position of the conservatives - even if not ideologically, they have governed as social democrats. We have massive immigration, legal and illegal, we have totally uncurbed social progressivism, we have a large welfare state, the military is deprioritised, we have a behemoth of a single payer nationalised health service, taxes are high and our finances have been imprudently managed.

@alexwood1390 5 күн бұрын

@dazzle4708 I would completely agree on all of those issues, and that the solutions offered by the left are largely either I adequate or the issue is denied altogether. Take immigration, it's impossible to have a nuanced conversation with most on the left about the need to bring immigration levels down to manageable levels, without being labelled racist or anti immigration. Which is absurd, we clearly rely on immigration, but to pretend it can just run in the 100s of thousands yearly is deranged, especially when the same people will (rightly) point to the lack of house building to address the housing crisis. Turns out you can actually say "we rely on immigration for everything from drs to cleaners, but we need to have manageable levels of immigration, and yes, of course questions of culture and assimilation matter". That's not racist, that's about as sensible a statement as you can get

@pierstheoneandonly 4 күн бұрын

@@alexwood1390 Your ingrained social-liberal purview has clearly informed you in your advancing a complete inversion of the Overton window. Any with the vaguest balanced perspective can see it is weighted, overwhelmingly, to the left. Hence, any who are centrist, who hold reasonable concerns about e.g. immigration, the characteristics of those who are coming and how pernicious the culture, objectives, sympathies and loyalties of the majority of them, are condemned (cf. the establishment-pattern soft-islamist maggot being interviewed) as 'populist' or far-right, if not fascistic.

@dello8928 Күн бұрын

Quite the contrast between: 1. the video's demonstration of how to conduct a nuanced respectful and thoughtful conversation on a range of topics affecting Britain today. And 2. the 5 pints later at the local Wetherspoon's 'Rory is a twat' style posts in the comments section.

@djgeneralbounce 10 күн бұрын

I have to respect the lads for inviting Rory on when they know full well a massive chunk of their viewers already strongly dislike him at the very least. We have tons of podcasters across the political spectrum that only ever speak to people that only speak to people who they and their audience align with, so it's great that the Trig lads aren't entirely captured by their audience. That said, it's clear from the expressions on their faces that they're far from impressed by what he had to say.

@alanrobertson9790 10 күн бұрын

True and it was fun deriding the guy in the comments. Have disliked the guy ever since he tried to frustrate Brexit in the Remainer parliament. To have a referendum and then seek to overturn the result makes him strongly dislikeable.

@djgeneralbounce 10 күн бұрын

@@alanrobertson9790 he seems to have a lot of disdain for the public's opinion.

@QwentyJ 10 күн бұрын

@alanrobertson9790 he didn't try to overturn the referendum result, you're getting him confused

@alanrobertson9790 10 күн бұрын

@@QwentyJ I'm not, I listened to what was said at the time. He later lost the conservative whip for voting against Brexit.

@Trazynn 10 күн бұрын

There's something so deeply cynical about guffawing over the impracticality of populist ideas due to them not being aligned with entrenched interests deeply rooted in the bureaucracy. I'd much rather slowly struggle in the right direction than efficiently move in the wrong direction at breakneck speed.

@vincentmcnabb939 10 күн бұрын

Indeed.

@grantsamson2384 10 күн бұрын

The problem is he is an institutionalist, who cannot conceive of acting outside of pre-established institutions.

@danielbwest 10 күн бұрын

Then you're just another person who's mad at the world, looking for something to satisfy your grievances. just thinking with his feelings. You'll never even know you're moving in the wrong direction because people like you will never admit their wrong

@tomo_xD 9 күн бұрын

Populists have failed wherever they've been in power, see Poland, Hungary, US and India.

@JB-qg2uc 8 күн бұрын

The "there are no solutions, only tradeoffs" is also a very basic principle of engineering, especially material selection.

@lionlamb1012 8 күн бұрын

love the way he seems confused by people not wanting to be taxed to oblivion

@derosa1989 6 күн бұрын

seems no more confused than a population who expect services they don't want to pay for.

@stleonards1066 5 күн бұрын

@@derosa1989 what services are these exactly? We have the highest tax burden since WW2 and you won't be able to get a medical procedure within a year of being referred

@alibabaschultz352 4 күн бұрын

@@stleonards1066 Because dumb selfish Americans have been electing dumb selfish politicians for DECADES, which has corrupted the entire American government. And because Americans are so egocentric, they assume that because their government sucks, that ALL government must suck. It's incredibly shallow and short sighted.

@diveinnjim 3 күн бұрын

Iceland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark all pay much higher taxes than the uk, and (surprise, surprise) they have better education, health services, cleaner streets, care homes, youth services, public library's, etc etc, plus they're always in the top 10 happiness league, brits (no, 20 in the league) tend to be miserable and are convinced this stems from problems caused by immigrants when our problems are caused by white middle classed men, either our politicians, hedge fund managers or venture capitalists,

@lozkko Күн бұрын

@@stleonards1066so taxes are high according to you, but level of services low, and yet we run large deficits? Unless you think that money disappears out of thin air or is wasted ( given the size of deficits we are talking about £130bn of money disappearing, so pointing to popular easy pickings such as benefit fraud, etc won't solve the conundrum), then either taxes are low or services are high.

@intigeral727 10 күн бұрын

The shameless self-serving opportunism of the elite classes never ceases to amaze.

@Bailiol 9 күн бұрын

I'm surprised all the hate Rory Stewart is getting on this channel. He's not utterly unreasonable - I think you have to be quite extreme to think he is. The hatred against him seems like the inverse equivalent of the extremists on the left castigating anyone who dares utter anything positive about British history as being "racist". I think if Rory could facilitate a more productive conversation about immigration and push back a lot harder on extreme left wing woke ideology, he'd actually be quite good. He clearly loves Britain and evidently has integrity. His challenge is bridging the chasm between the identitarian left and the national populist right.

@xhorxhi77 9 күн бұрын

@@Bailioli think you’ll find that people lime Rory, are so politically homeless because they don’t subscribe to the monocausal thesis for all our problems. It doesn’t work in today’s political arena to say that the issues are more complex than just “stopping immigration” or “tax the rich”

@PeterBarkerMusic 9 күн бұрын

@Bailiol I don't know why you're surprised about this audience's reaction here - there's so many instances where I've seen a lot of core Triggernometry fans embody the exact dismissiveness and tribalism that Konstantin and Francis claim to be against. This doesn't apply to all, or perhaps not even most fans of the channel obviously; I've had some cool back and forths with people here despite not being an actual fan myself. I don't think it's a surprise though when most of the channel's content revolves around pushing back against left-wing positions on the same 4 or 5 issues.

@andybrice2711 9 күн бұрын

@@Bailiol He’s not utterly unreasonable. But he just seems like a bit of a push-over who shrugs and gives up when elites resist his suggestions of reasonable compromise.

@HeirToTheScarletSky 9 күн бұрын

I agree with this totally. I watch Triggernometry regularly as someone on the centre/centre-left to get out my bubble. Konstantin and Francis are generally significantly more open minded and reasonable than the audience which is a shame. I wish that the average viewer here could take this opportunity to sit and think about what Rory has said. There's a lot I've learned from him over the past year or so.

@JM_93 10 күн бұрын

I read Rory’s book the places in between. I always expected that someone who walked across Afghanistan to be a little more grounded somehow. There’s a part near the end of the book, where he finally reaches Kabul, having spent months walking and walking and living with rural people who have such a wildly different worldview to our own. (and to each other) When he finally gets to Kabul, he meets people who have been drafted there from the UN, young kids with degrees who talk about how Afghan women want equal rights and this and that and claim to speak on behalf of a country of rural peoples whose ideas about the world we cannot really comprehend. Of course, they stayed only within the capital city and never really spoke to ordinary people, they never asked how they felt about the war (or whether they wanted it in the first place) they never asked them what they wanted the future of Afghanistan to look like. He was making the point that this refusal to fully understand foreign cultures mirrored all western foreign policy, but I wonder how much he knows about ordinary British people, has he ever even spoken to one and asked how they feel?

@redrev674 10 күн бұрын

He lives in South Kensington. Enough said.

@louisbaker4362 9 күн бұрын

If you care about green spaces, biodiversity and ecology then why would you want to allow ridiculous numbers of people into the country which threatens that?

@endaohalloran6649 6 күн бұрын

How on Earth is any of that connected? The entire population of Britain could fit inside half of Yorkshire if it had New York levels of population density There's plenty of space in Britain to have a growing population and green spaces

@TibetanFox68 6 күн бұрын

@@endaohalloran6649 Green spaces are already having loads of houses built on them where I live. Anyway, do you think everybody should all get squeezed together into overcrowded cities just so we can let more unskilled third worlders with very different attitudes pile in?

@endaohalloran6649 5 күн бұрын

@@TibetanFox68 Tokyo, Seoul, New York all have far far higher population densities than Britain. Nobody would ever say these cities are "squeezing" people in. So the entire land of Britain has plenty of space for people to live at lower densities than those cities And housing would need to be built anyway. If the population increased through natural birth rates that means more houses would be needed. It's ridiculous to claim that economic development should be stopped, that people shouldn't be allowed to build and buy new homes, that those jobs shouldn't be created because you don't want to see more houses

@PointNemo9 2 күн бұрын

@@endaohalloran6649 You are comparing the population density of a country to individual cities, you're an idiot.

@louisbaker4362 3 сағат бұрын

@@endaohalloran6649 when you take our immigration figures, and sprinkle in Green Belt regulations designed to prevent urban sprawl, you get the unique conditions we face where we can't supply the demand for our own housing needs. This is further exacerbated when, if we take England alone, as at April 2022: 8.7% of land in England is of developed use, with 91.1% of non-developed use and the remaining 0.2% being vacant. The top 3 land use groups were 'Agriculture' (63.1%), 'Forestry, open land and water' (20.1%), and 'Residential gardens' (4.9%). www.gov.uk/government/statistics/land-use-in-england-2022/land-use-statistics-england-2022#land-use-in-england The argument I made is based on the obvious fact of the "tragedy of the commons" where if you take land for one purpose then it becomes exclusive for the owners needs. Given that only 0.2% is considered vacant, it is obvious that increasing our population artificially will intrude on other humans let alone other species we have to share our environment with. You can't have it both ways. Furthermore you mention about birth rates. In Britain, our population is only rising due to immigration because our population currently has a sub replacement birth rate and recent news warns that we will eventually have deaths outpacing births. So you're point about others not wanting housing is not only misrepresenting my point but also factually incorrect because without mass migration our population would be decreasing which would be better for the environment. Yes having more people boosts a country's GDP but our GDP per capita is not getting better with the modal income not increasing by much where housing has outpaced it by a considerable margin.

@yogazesty426 10 күн бұрын

The bank of England sold £80 billion of bonds the day BEFORE the Truss budget, and then took 5 days to react to the aftermath, this isn't quite the simple picture Stewart paints, he may be more of a buffoon than he thinks Boris to be.

@jumblestiltskin1365 9 күн бұрын

Trig guys know this too and didn't question him on it. So irritating.

@pepelepew2690 9 күн бұрын

He's part of the deep state

@Jacksta805 9 күн бұрын

I like their style of interviewing... there's too much aggressive interviewing styles on the mainstream channels. Allowing someone to speak freely allows us to make our own opinion.

@aldursys 9 күн бұрын

That has little to do with anything. The market's response to what Truss was proposing was entirely rational given the Bank of England's reaction function and the way Gilts are *actually* priced. The problem was that the Tory MPs didn't understand what was happening and never wanted Truss in the first place.

@johnkingston1337 9 күн бұрын

They didn’t actually sell any bonds. They announced their intention to do so over the course of the next year, which almost definitely contributed to a shock in the bonds market. Why they didn’t communicate this with the government and why they chose to act at that exact point is anybody’s guess.

@abigailslade3824 10 күн бұрын

Rory Stewart having the gall to tell the people they live in a fairy tale world is peak blindness.

@danw9464 10 күн бұрын

I think the point he's making is that many people can't deal with trade-offs, and I'd say that's true. People want perfection in an imperfect world

@tubewatcher117 10 күн бұрын

@@danw9464but populism exists because the elists were unwilling to make trade-offs with what the populace was asking for. They would pay lip service and do the opposite.

@stones4879 10 күн бұрын

funny coming from a goblin isn't it?

@johnkeane1419 10 күн бұрын

Brits do live in a fantasy world. For example, expecting European services while paying American taxes.

@1972jjb 10 күн бұрын

@@danw9464 The point that Rory type politicians can't deal with, is they're making some of the wrong trade offs. Mass immigration of low ability, culturally too different people is just causing us bigger costs down the road. Politicians want perfect easy lives in a World which pays them to show leadership and not be cowards. And we'd all say that's true.

@skullbonefortnitefilms4156 7 күн бұрын

He was a Conservative MP, and a minister, and yet, he doesn't have a definition for Conservatism.He doesn't have any answers or solutions regarding anything. I respected this man once, but all he does is whinge, whinge, whinge.

@thetruth9210 4 күн бұрын

Conservative MP, and a minister and ran to be PM yet listening to this he is not even a Tory

@joannebooth640 18 сағат бұрын

He comes across as a bitter man who has not got over his failed attempt to be PM. Rejection seems to have made him anti those who opposed him. Obviously he didn't have genuine Conservative values when standing for election. I could define conservatism better than him. He is just another narcasistic politician. Thank god he wasn't elected

@mt0068 9 күн бұрын

Rory is right when he talks about the huge debt issue left by covid - however the idea that this is a unique problem that will let in populism is totally ignoring the fact that Lockdown and Furlough would have been labour policies and the only policy that either Tory or Labour have in a crisis is spend spend spend (the "energy" crisis for example). If they do not fundamentally fix their attitude to problems and think the only solution is to spend then we are truly screwed

@mikereger1186 10 күн бұрын

He should have joined the LibDems. He just isn't a conservative in any way.

@stones4879 10 күн бұрын

raving loonies more like

@alanrobertson9790 10 күн бұрын

No he can't work with other people, he needs to be part of the I love Rory party.

@ThepPixel 9 күн бұрын

@@alanrobertson9790no, he just cant work for Boris Johnson

@Pebble_Collector 8 күн бұрын

He's fiscally conservative, socially liberal. There are (or were until recently) these moderate, sensible types in the Tory party. Johnson and Brexit helped see an end to that. Now we have actual horrible people like Suella de Vil Braverman at the forefront of the party.

@AKbamoida 8 күн бұрын

Far too intelligent

@JD83000 10 күн бұрын

Why was Rory even in the Conservatives. Like the rest of the One Nation lot he can jog on and join the Lib Dems, or maybe do a centrist dad podcast with an Labour spin doctor....

@Benboy1980 10 күн бұрын

😂 😉

@sephus99 10 күн бұрын

"Was he late new labour, was he a coalition Tory or a coalition libdem?" that's how I thought I'd think of Stewart but he just won't go away to fade from memory enough.

@crowbar9566 10 күн бұрын

@@sephus99 Thanks to his mate Campbell telling a pack of lies with his sexed-up dodgy dossier, Stewart got live out his fantasy of being a victorian era imperial viceroy. Over a million Iraqis died, but he doesn’t let that get in the way of a good story.

@kayedal-haddad 10 күн бұрын

A***

@tribalque2232 9 күн бұрын

He actually has done the second one you suggested. He also has basically left the conservatives

@shatbad2960 8 күн бұрын

Enforce the borders, reduce pointless government spending and petty taxation on working people.

@flat6croc 7 күн бұрын

Don't be dim. The vast majority of immigration is entirely legal. Perfectly enforced borders would have made almost no difference to anything. Racists and bigots who dark like brown people coming into the country don't even understand how it's happens, fuckwits!

@WH-hi5ew 9 күн бұрын

Great episode... really enjoyed it lads. Well done! Good to have a variety of voices on Triggernometry not just a procession of similar anti-woke complainers.

@WisdomRebellion 10 күн бұрын

Listening to Rory it seems to me that the ministers are too soft to take on the public servants. If you’re working on a team which handles very important task, such as a war, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed a job share. And if it means that it would exclude some women from that job, then so be it. The war is more important in the grand scheme of things. We have a system where the tail is wagging the dog, and the dog is crying about it whilst allowing it to happen. The country is on its knees, and all they worry about is being kind and fluffy in their approach to staff who refuse to do their job. Also, the idea that the councils won't put planning through because of the environment or residents is ludicrous. Here in the North West, the council puts all sorts of planning for their friend developers. MPs know about it, the Ombudsman knows about it - nobody cares. It's all about priorities and the Tory priorities were all about optics of left-bent media rather than delivering solutions.

@vesterwolf 10 күн бұрын

I concur and believe as with me you could have written an essay on how to simply fix most of our problems. It seems that he does too, however they all involve being practical, abolishing sentimentality like DEI/environmentalism, returning to meritocracy and rewarding competency.

@pastexpiry2013B 9 күн бұрын

@@vesterwolf Sorry but o meritocracy and rewarding competency will melt the polar ice-caps in the year 2012.

@Benelio 10 күн бұрын

The production value for these videos is going from strength to strength! How on earth did you manage to secure Andy Serkis and the VFX to animate this guy?

@jenmazz1257 9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@AFGuidesHD 8 күн бұрын

"Don't vote for populists because they say they want to control immigration" And Rory's high IQ solution to this is of course vote for the parties that openly don't want to and haven't control immigration.

@bryndonbooth9536 8 күн бұрын

He speaks of reforming the civil service by making it more efficient. No comment about culling the waste, no comment about eliminating ridiculous departments, just making it more efficient through training and AI. He's living in the world of fairy tales.

@petergeddes6652 8 күн бұрын

When talking about the NHS he says that reform means prioritization, it means stopping doing some things that you used to

@JamesHeseltine 10 күн бұрын

This is nauseating

@cerievans134 10 күн бұрын

💯

@pastexpiry2013B 10 күн бұрын

Yeah, logic seems to have that affect on lefties.

@Appmus 10 күн бұрын

pedantic jabbering

@dannyquinn9128 10 күн бұрын

Is it because he isn't spreading right wing nonsense?

@Brandon-kj9fk 10 күн бұрын

Rory Stewert is a typical establishment politician who is completely disconnected with the voters.

@mountee 10 күн бұрын

I used to like Rory Stewart before he became a weak man that will bring in hard times

@call_in_sick 10 күн бұрын

🙄

@Enhancedlies 10 күн бұрын

second that

@stephengreaves7935 10 күн бұрын

Yup ...

@stephengreaves7935 10 күн бұрын

Ŕory is not a Conservative ...

@stevh88 9 күн бұрын

He has always been like this.

@chrisshak5216 5 күн бұрын

The problem with the ageing population is that the majority of people and taxpayers are not willing to put money towards it.

@b_tuber-ti8ep 10 күн бұрын

Sorry, lads, didn't last more than 5 mins of this bloke's aimless waffle.

@kateaye3506 10 күн бұрын

I was more fascinated with Konstantin's new hair line.

@sabriya7647 10 күн бұрын

Sorry he couldn't give you Trump one line slogans for the low IQ

@robscovell5951 9 күн бұрын

@@kateaye3506 Meanwhile I was finding Rory's hair line disturbing.

@patchworkpants 8 күн бұрын

Of course you didn't. Complex ideas and deep thinking aren't your forte, which is probably why you're going to vote Reform.

@b_tuber-ti8ep 8 күн бұрын

@@patchworkpants Come, join REFORM UK. We are the future, and with your colossal intellect that future promises to be even brighter. Huzzah!

@countofdownable 10 күн бұрын

This guy was never a Tory and he hates public opinion.

@garyjones6810 10 күн бұрын

He's no less Conservative than Boris Johnson who has no principles

@delver1857 10 күн бұрын

Public opinion supports Labour and left wing politics, deal with it

@fireflyrobert 10 күн бұрын

@@delver1857 only 1 in 5 eligible voters voted for Labour in the general election

@countofdownable 10 күн бұрын

@@delver1857 33.8% of the vote.

@abigailslade3824 10 күн бұрын

@@countofdownableyou are ignoring those who are now so apathetic they didn’t bother.

@MegaGouch 7 күн бұрын

I think everyone knows what the problem is but no one is willing to discuss it. During Covid when people weren't allowed to travel and/or go to work, many people realized that the systems in the West were just not working for them. They don't want tot go work for some meaningless corporation that doesn't care about them, they really just want to stay at home with their family and local community. The big issue above all of this is trying to have perpetual growth that only helps a few people, and the majority of the middle and lower class actually get worse off. They might have more stuff (smart phones, nice car, big TV) but everything else is getting worse. People don't really wants more housing (other than developers and land owners), they just want to be able to afford to buy one. I don't think anyone ever drives past a new development and is happy the country side is being torn up and concreted over. The reality is the housing, immigration, preserving the countryside, loneliness, meaningless crisis etc, all come under one underlying issue:

@thedirectorschair1054 10 күн бұрын

When you have a face of an 80 year old Mick Jagger and the voice of Frank Spencer.

@robkeeleycomposer 10 күн бұрын

That’s very good! 😮

@Vangough792 10 күн бұрын

I can’t believe he’s younger than me. I thought he was older, he certainly looks it.

@inthewildwoods 10 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 Now you mention it

@robturvey9156 10 күн бұрын

A very scrawny Mick Jagger. I can’t imagine Marianne F being interested in this runt.

@nickdean3152 10 күн бұрын

🤣🤣

@LynWilliams1 10 күн бұрын

In fact from my experiences working with both politicians and the civil service Rory is spot on. We have a civil service that is obsessed with processes rather than primary outcomes.

@LynWilliams1 6 күн бұрын

@mikesmith1485 😂

@evenAndre 7 күн бұрын

Regarding the illegal immigration. What I take from it, is he is more worried about upsetting the status quo, than doing what is right. The welfare of Britons seems to be the last thing on this mind. This mindset is perhaps ok if the country is doing well, but not when it's on the brink of collapsing.

@JohnC-nl5xs 8 күн бұрын

Conservatism is hard to define ! I've heard it all now This guy was never a conservative, has no vision and that's why we need new innovative thinking and why Farage will become more and more popular as he at least offers something different to these numpties!

@steveellis7748 9 күн бұрын

He pontificates why everybody else is wrong, and when questioned about solutions, he just waffles.

@akumasdeception 7 күн бұрын

The reason why he and others of his ilk waffle is because real solutions would affect his position in society and he can't have that.

@flat6croc 7 күн бұрын

You interpret nuance as waffle. Most of the problems we face can't be solved by simplistic, populist solutions. Fixing things will take the work of many years, sweating details and fine tuning compromises, not nonsense slogans, polarisation, blaming enemies and smashing things up.

@malikrahman8649 7 күн бұрын

@flat6croc. You didn't define a solution. Your response was just waffle or "nuance" as you like to call it. The equivalent of saying "we need to solve a problem by solving it."

@flat6croc 7 күн бұрын

@@malikrahman8649 I didn't claim I have a solution. I'm saying that real solutions are nuanced and take time and work. Fuckwitted nonsense like Get Brexit Done and Levelling Up is what you say when you're a con artist with no idea how to actually solve problems. We'll see how well the new Labour government does. Personally I'm a conservative (an actual conservative, not a right wing populist who doesn't have a clue what conservatism is), so I'm suspicious of Labour. But they at least appear to understand that solving our problems will take time and the careful, considered work of grown ups, not clueless fuckwits who wank over WEF conspiracies fed to them by their cult leaders and are obsessed with the 'border' when the vast majority of immigration is legal and would not have been stopped by a perfect border. The fuckwittery of the far right knows no bounds.

@carelgoodheir692 6 күн бұрын

@@malikrahman8649 Yes. We do need to solve a problem by solving it. We do not need to pretend we're solving a problem by giving some over simplicistic answer. Good government is pragmatic.

@Melanie_Star 10 күн бұрын

It's pretty unsettling that so many are willing to not listen, discount & demean someone's views, thoughts & opinions based on their go-to, preconceived notions & ideas. Personally, I always enjoy listening, considering & assessing before I dismiss anything. Far too many of you in the comments section have fallen into group think ways, which is highly unfortunate.

@blowfish1702 10 күн бұрын

Yes, listening to him in real time, considering, assesing and forming the opinion he's wrong cannot be allowed.

@peternicho 10 күн бұрын

Fair comment l will listen to you can you please explain why illegal immigrants are allowed to stay in the uk and collect benefits, get free housing and the services of the NHS. Do you think it is fair that we have all paid into our taxes to help establish them over many years, then illegal immigrants can get those very same free of charge when they have only just arrived.

@Melanie_Star 10 күн бұрын

@blowfish1702 That's not what I implied at all. I just think that people should listen once in a while bc they might just learn something new. I don't agree with much of what Rory believes, but I did find some insight & learned much I hadn't considered before. Just bc you don't like someone does not mean that that person doesn't still have intelligent things to add to the conversation.

@1Mutton1 9 күн бұрын

@@Melanie_Staryour right, he did make some good points, but these were equally balanced by bad ones.

@ltmund 9 күн бұрын

You are correct. Unfortunately when that has been happening for a decade to people they tend to return the favour. Rory doesn't listen. He made his mind up about those who don't agree with globalisation a decade ago. Their opinions are to be dismissed as "populist" "unachievable" and "racist".

@syedadeelhussain2691 Күн бұрын

I enjoy listening to Traditional Tory Rory! He is one of the better-educated intellectuals who understands reality. Unfortunately Tory party no longer has such thinking minds within its rank and file. No wonder the Tories have drifted towards the right. Rory must form his own political party ;)

@sn0wdon 3 күн бұрын

His perspective is mostly correct, I think, but it's a boring explanation and therefore unappealing to most people. Was pretty disappointed to see most of the comments making fun of him.

@tomtom21194 10 күн бұрын

The problem with Rory is he is wilfully blind when he finds the topic uncomfortable. Criticise islam or a muslim practice Rory- then i will respect your opinion.

@mr2981 10 күн бұрын

It would take more than that. This guy talks in circles with a scoop of unicorn dust sprinkled on for good measure.

@Enhancedlies 10 күн бұрын

100%

@dannyquinn9128 10 күн бұрын

What does Islam have to do with anything?

@philipk9783 10 күн бұрын

@@dannyquinn9128 nothing

@tomtom21194 10 күн бұрын

@dannyquinn9128 it's Rory's blindspot. It's where his projected integrity stops because he refuses to criticise anything to do with it. He was one of, if not the most qualified in parliament to speak on issues related to the effects of Islamic cultures coming into the UK and yet he said nothing. Grooming gangs. Islamic criminal gangs. Hate preaching. Terrorism. Intifada. Sharia. All of it. He is fundamentally a coward for that fact and so I do not trust him on other issues either.

@PeterPanMan 9 күн бұрын

As an American, I like this guy on an individual level, especially since I read his excellent and very insightful book on Afghanistan. BUT...everything he says in this interview is just a lot of vague flummery! I really have no idea what concrete solutions he has for the UK housing crisis or the NHS. He sounds like a well-spoken 17 year-old telling us how to make the world a better place in which to live.

@timapple9157 8 күн бұрын

Yes, I note that most ignore the wars started in Afghanistan and Iraq and then Syria, as the reason for a lot of the refugees.

@rebeccawoods2481 8 күн бұрын

An intellect, but a rich boy from Eton and Oxford, as well as being a political flip flop. Dad was MI6, so an establishment man. A diplomat in southern Iraq 2003. Sees himself as a Lawrence of Arabia, but was nick named Florence of Belgravia.

@user-zb9gi4wn7v 7 күн бұрын

Is that the trip he went on and came back with Noah Coburn’s wife ??

@ChristopherDowning 7 күн бұрын

And that background gives him an approach to being a conservative that meant he failed and continues to fail to understand what the conservatives need to do - even to survive, let alone lead again.

@FiveLiver 7 күн бұрын

I thought all the remainers had left politics. Why would anyone want to interview him?

@queenanne5917 9 күн бұрын

Could have abolished the Mayor of London in government but wants to witter about pussy footing around the Mayor's regulations. No vision

@RaveyDavey 7 күн бұрын

Funny how the amount of immigration is always "about right" for liberals. Was c.50K a year in the 90s. Now it's c.700,000 a year and that's still "about right". How does that work? What has changed since the 90s that we need 14 times as many people - enough to fill a city the size of Leeds - every single year? What will we need in 30 years? 5 million a year??

@ianinkster2261 10 күн бұрын

Rory Stewart is a valiant ambassador for Inertia.

@codyhill6439 10 күн бұрын

Ahah nailed it buddy 👏

@bigpete4227 10 күн бұрын

Spot on.

@Nick3DvB 9 күн бұрын

almost like he's trying to conserve something... 😉

@mk7073 10 күн бұрын

I thought this was a remarkable interview. Good lines of questioning and very thoughtful responses. I respect Rory's refusal to give easy answers even if I'm not convinced his answers concerning things like a customs union or the ECHR were particularly strong. Though I also have to acknowledge his point that simply ripping up the rulebook in such cases is antithetical to conservative values - laws of unintended consequences and all that. Much to think about.

@mazoomska 10 күн бұрын

I agree. I thought exactly the same as you re: ECHR and customs union. I found him be insightful and interesting to listen to and I enjoyed this discussion. I must be missing something though, given all the negative comments..?

@rasputintouring9014 10 күн бұрын

@@mazoomska I was also very surprised by the negative comments. I think it speaks to the point that most people believe all existing issues are due to conservatives incompetence and will have to swallow a bitter pill in five years when little will have changed

@Isewein 10 күн бұрын

Agreed. Glad to still see such a thoughtful & fruitful disagreement at Triggernometry. There's always that danger that with success comes a new echo chamber.

@user-zb9gi4wn7v 7 күн бұрын

Populism, something Rory Stewart will never have to worry about.

@joostengelsman4755 8 күн бұрын

This episode seperates the realists from the believers. If you don't like his message you should really ask yourself why.

@januarysson5633 10 күн бұрын

Public school boy who thinks he knows everything. 😂

@philipmulville8218 10 күн бұрын

I think that’s probably right. I like Rory a lot, but he does have a God complex, is too cerebral for his own good, and isn’t enough of a bastard to be a successful career politician.

@philipmulville8218 7 күн бұрын

@mikesmith1485 Mike, you seem to be using a quote I didn't use. I tried to be as clear as possible.

@redrev674 10 күн бұрын

Rory contradicts himself when he talks about populism. He starts off by saying that what the country needs is a bold courageous leader that can make bold changes to structural problems like NHS, planning etc that are the result of our establishment, civil service, traditions, local democracy etc. Then he said that he doesn’t like populist leaders not because of what they are saying (which he admits is true) but because the way they go about it break’s conventions, traditions etc. My conclusion is that he hasn’t properly thought through his ideas which are irrational. To solve hard to solve structural problems you need fresh approaches which challenge conventions.

@123axel123 9 күн бұрын

Rory is analytical and could be a professor. He cannot get anything done in real life

@Der_Thrombozyt 9 күн бұрын

The key part is the trade-off he talked about. Breaking stuff to get vital things done doesn't come for free and the difference between a populist and a bold leader is that the latter acknowledges the price convinces the people that the gain is worth the cost. In contrast, a populist is either ignorant of the cost or deceives the people by telling them that they can have their wall and have Mexico pay for it. Or have their Brexit and all the EU subsidies. Or cut immigration while keeping all the nursing homes and hospitals staffed.

@MA-jz4yc 9 күн бұрын

Populist leaders more often than not point out valid problems but their solutions aren't workable or well thought out. They end up breaking things even more (like Boris Johnsons hard brexit). You need to be bold and break conventions but also pragmatic which is a hard balance to strike.

@cponeill 9 күн бұрын

I didn't see the contradiction there because he explained that the issues are complex whereas populists claim it is simple. Importantly his idea of the leader required includes vision and long term thinking (e.g. 20 years to develop the competency required to fix the NHS). Populist leaders like Farage or Trump will try and tell you that is simple and quick just to replace the elites, drain the swamp, cut though the red tape etc which is only possible if there is a backsliding on democracy and states become more autocratic which in turn has negative consequences

@dazecm 9 күн бұрын

When I hear "Bold courageous leader" I also hear whispers of "Authoritarian".

@colindant3410 6 күн бұрын

I object to the use of the terms populist and populism. These are pejorative terms used to attempt to denigrate political parties which promulgate alternatives to the so called mainstream parties, such as the Conservative and Labour parties.

@user-jn2tn5lc7c 3 күн бұрын

Rory Stewart is a joke. He called the Tories far right and when challenged by Andrew Neil he couldn’t give one example. What are his values? This clown moved seamlessly from Labour to the Cons.

@osu7356 10 күн бұрын

TLDR, Rory answered every question with, "that's really complicated, let me drone on about a different subject for a while."

@shelleyscloud3651 9 күн бұрын

It’s so condescending. He genuinely thinks the little people haven’t yet grasped the depth & complexity of our many issues. It’s truly eluded him that we understand the trade offs and are accepting of them. And the excuses, the navel gazing, denial of reality, the CAN’T DO attitude…..he’s a perfect poster boy for why our whole political class needs binned.

@Vince01 9 күн бұрын

He's whataboutism incarnate. There's no conversation to have with this man. There's a lot of words -- sure! -- but no conversation. He's an intellectually dishonest, dangerous fool.

@carollayne87 10 күн бұрын

I can't bear to watch.

@Spindlegrind 10 күн бұрын

Same

@Fragmentofbone 10 күн бұрын

@@carollayne87 He is a magician! He can dry bread just with his voice.

@ergophonic 10 күн бұрын

@@Fragmentofbone 🤣

@queenanne5917 9 күн бұрын

Why are Michael Gove and Oliver Letwin the 'most competent' people to solve the housing crisis?

@kossfan 9 күн бұрын

The housing crisis, despite what all the so called experts would have us believe, isn’t a typical supply and demand situation. While it is true that house prices like any other commodity are dictated by how much someone is willing to pay, the factor that determines how much one can pay for a house is how much the banks are willing to lend. Very few people can purchase a house without the need to take out a mortgage, therefore, if the banks were still restricted to lending only 3.5 times the value of one buyer’s salary, house prices would be pegged to the average wage, just like they always were. It really shouldn’t be that difficult to understand, but it seems that politicians and even housing experts don’t get this. As a result of these silly property prices, the cost of building supplies has increased, as has the cost of land, everybody has jumped onto the band wagon, and who can blame them? A vicious cycle has commenced. The government, in their wisdom have increased the minimum wage to try to offset the cost of living (which is really the cost of housing). The consequence of this is the increasing cost of all goods, as manufacturers cover their increased wage costs by raising prices. This should have been dealt with at least 20 years ago, I fear that it is now too late though.

@simongreaves9465 10 күн бұрын

Rory is the Gareth Southgate of politics.

@skinlo01 6 күн бұрын

A winner?

@RichardEnglander 10 күн бұрын

13:00 No Rory, we dont dream of a Technocratic Government, we dream of secure borders and being left alone in The Shire free of Orcs.

@philipmulville8218 10 күн бұрын

Cé?

@MrLolrobinson 8 күн бұрын

Wow you just proved his point!

@RichardEnglander 8 күн бұрын

@@MrLolrobinson duh 🙄 euphemisms. Nobody thinks that Orcs really exist. Cope harder

@1212Diablo 8 күн бұрын

@@MrLolrobinson Do you think hobbits lived in a technocratic government? Haha lol! You know nothing about this xD

@flat6croc 7 күн бұрын

You do realise that 100% secure borders in the last few years would have had almost no impact on the brown people you hate coming to the UK? The vast, vast majority of them came here legally and would not have been stopped by perfectly secure borders. If you want to achieve your racist utopia, you need to at least understand how hte hated brown people are getting in! 😂

@RM-di3ds 6 күн бұрын

Massive respect to both parties for this interview, great to see you talk to one of the few political grown ups. The fact that the real answers to questions are muti faceted and not easy should ring true to anyone who has worked in a large organisation. Markets don't fix everything and neither does socialism - if it was simple the world would be a utopia.

@Trutheater 7 күн бұрын

He has a million reasons why he can’t do anything but none for any action. If you need any further proof that he is in no way conservative and has no principles of his own he talks about his friend Alastair.

@ramosel 10 күн бұрын

This guy and Kamala Harris went to the same school of "Spew a lot of words without saying anything meaningful".

@666atyler666 10 күн бұрын

I think most politicians have this affliction. Biden can't even formulate words never mind sentences. It's all coming crashing down and nobody can stop it. I mean NOBODY! God Speed

@merc9nine 9 күн бұрын

If Kamala could speak 1/100 as well as this, she'd be the nominee. She's far far worse.

@martinpaddle 9 күн бұрын

You confuse 'meaningful' with 'what I want to hear'. Essentially, he is pointing out that things are more complicated instead of taking the easy route and blamimg immigrants.

@LuisCarruthers 9 күн бұрын

He is talking about a lot of practical issues. You must have not listened. You don't have to share someone's ideology to find the interview interesting.

@spiritualpolitics8205 9 күн бұрын

@@martinpaddle So, the complicated truth is that the UK must absorb immigrants at the high annual rate currently in place lest jobs would go unfilled? Hard to believe the cost-benefit calculus is complete or sincere on that...

@cnrspiller3549 10 күн бұрын

The private sector is more efficient than the government, but if your procurement is shte then the private companies will take the pss. The real scandal, Rory is pss-poor procurement.

@garethbarry3825 9 күн бұрын

If i could double like a comment, i would do so. It seems to me that you have hit the nail on the head regarding 'failed privatisation.'

@jawhale833 9 күн бұрын

When a politician like Rory starts speaking the truth he either gets ignored or people attack him. The truth is managing hundred of millions of people in a complex and messy world is an extremely difficult task.

@joystickmedia1769 8 күн бұрын

This man is about as conservative as a gay pride parade. We don’t have any obligation to take a single immigrant. Neither do Japan, neither does any other country.

@TheRooftops 7 күн бұрын

I had to look this guy up because I thought I misheard that he was a conservative. Dude, you and your ilk are why the Conservative party are not conservative anymore!

@alastairhunter353 10 күн бұрын

Another illuminating interview guys. Thanks. You never get this depths on Question Time

@albedo0point39 10 күн бұрын

Hoping he gets asked some tough questions for a change. Sick to death of the fawning behaviour of the MSM to this closet socialist.

@Drawthought 10 күн бұрын

Closet? He's been a skinsuit wearing Tory for a long time now. It was pretty obvious.

@redmed10 10 күн бұрын

Well?

@thevale2456 10 күн бұрын

Socialist? 😂😂😂

@glenvance6737 10 күн бұрын

well how disappointed where you?

@hughiemg2 9 күн бұрын

@@glenvance6737 I thought they did a decent job of pushing back on what he was saying. Their style isn't gotcha journalism but there was more accountability than any of the other interviews I saw with him

@andreimustata5922 5 күн бұрын

I almost forgotten that there still exist thoughtful politicians. Not that I necessarily agree with his political vision but because he is seriously actually discussing existing problems.