Triple Triangle Bikes Pros and Cons

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3 жыл бұрын

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Triple triangle frames are one of the most polarizing designs in the bike world. Once you see it, you immediately know whether you love it or hate it. But what's the point of triple triangles? Are the actually stiffer, faster, and stronger than traditional diamond frames? Let's find out the pros and cons of triple triangle bike frames in this fixed gear bike check of the Vendetta Triplet.
Thanks to Jazzton Rodriguez from Oklahoma City for sharing this bike!
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Parts list:
Frameset:
Vendetta Triplet/Crew Carbon fork
Handlebars/Stem/Headset:
Zipp Service Course 70 440mm/Thomson Elite 0 degrees 100mm
Saddle/Seatpost:
1990 Selle Italia Ti/Thomson Elite Setback
Pedals:
Shimano M520
Cranks/Bottom Bracket/Chainring:
SRAM Omnium/Phil Wood GXP/Bespoke X Deluxe Cycles 50t chainring
Cog/Lockring/Chain:
EAI Gold Medal 17t/Izumi Super Toughness
Rims/Hubs/Spokes/Tires:
H+Son Archetype/Formula sealed bearing/Panaracer Gravel King 32c
Accessories:
Knog Blinder front and rear lights
Skin Grows Back Plan B saddle bag
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@iura0 3 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention that the longer seatstays in the triple triangle configuration allow for a wider rear tire clearance while remaining straight. Straight seatstays = strong and light seatstays. Wider tire clearance = profit.

@beofux3356 3 жыл бұрын

Good point I didn't thought about before. 🤔

@timboha8191 3 жыл бұрын

I got a poloandbike cmdr and the tyre clearance is well tight, can only get a 23mm in despite the triple triangle

@artvandalay2736 3 жыл бұрын

@@timboha8191 yeah there are a lot of tight clearance trip triangles out there, they are not only wide

@iura0 3 жыл бұрын

@@timboha8191 Well, indeed, that doesn't address other limiting factors, like the chainstays clearance. So the opportunity can be waisted if so desired. 😥

@BRulloda0 3 жыл бұрын

Had a GTB for about 5 years and could only fit a 25.

@TroubleshootGamingMeds 3 жыл бұрын

Watching your channel a lot lately and bought my first fixie last week! Assembled it today and gonna ride it first thing tomorrow. Thanks for all the great videos man.

@aldairconr 3 жыл бұрын

Vendetta Rules! 😎🔥

@jonasosa5126 3 жыл бұрын

Man. It’s hard to criticize a bike online without riding it.

@_dmart 3 жыл бұрын

Easy*

@josephdatan6983 3 жыл бұрын

He should make a content that more on technical not a merely reviews.

@greengonzonz 3 жыл бұрын

Another great bike check from Zach Gallardo. 💙 Keep em coming.

@kevinyap1757 3 жыл бұрын

Finally!!!! Ive been eyeing these bad boys!

@BangTheRocksTogether 3 жыл бұрын

You had me at Purple Panaracers.

@VENDETTABIKES 3 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

@StandbyCymbalist 3 жыл бұрын

Fun build. Thanks for covering triple triangles Zach, Andy Sparks' bike had me wondering 'bout these.

@TheEnrique5655 3 жыл бұрын

Just got a p&b cmndr frameset!! Cant wait to build the whole bike

@galenkehler 3 жыл бұрын

I find the parallel lines of the triple triangle design, every tube has its pair.

@jjpoltergeist 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of the coolest bikes shown yet. I love the sour gummy worms vibe. The tires tie everything together so well. Everything makes sense in this build.

@JAZZTONRODRIGUEZ 2 жыл бұрын

HEY THANKS 🙏🏽

@Michael_DAVID2423 3 жыл бұрын

I love your videos!

@KillingTimewithStyle 3 жыл бұрын

Nice build!

@DavidFraser007 3 жыл бұрын

I have an old Gt Outpost. I just like the geometry , it just looks better somehow and a horizontal top tube helps too.

@CiclistaMinimalista 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a Vendetta a couple of months ago and I love it. Burnt color is awesome!!!😎

@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 3 жыл бұрын

I certainly love it. One of my first bikes is a 90s chromoly GT mountain bike frame, I built my commuter on this frame. I fell in love with 90s chromoly frames cause if this bike. Now I have 4 bicycles built on those frames, Specialized, Trek, GT and Gary Fisher. Raleigh and Mongol are also very Good frames

@gallowglass1594 3 жыл бұрын

Poloandbike’s cmndr is just one of my favorite frames ever. It looks so cool.

@asas-mb4wj 3 жыл бұрын

zach, just wanted to say thanks for the effort you put in your videos. You really have something special for the fixie world. No other part of cycling has this much entertaining coverage. I DONT EVEN OWN A FIXIE yet. please consider bringing back a yearly fixie points for april fools. Thats what got me into your channel, im sure others too. It was really fun looking at what to do, and what not to do. Some of those bikes were inspirational too haha. Anyways love the channel

@nadsv93 3 жыл бұрын

Searched for Vendetta Triplet on google and one of the first 10 images is this bike posted on reddit

@akotosinatoy7606 3 жыл бұрын

Dolan pre cursa review thanks!!

@sleepingslightly 3 жыл бұрын

Dude I didn't know you had a dog! I love you even more!!💗

@SchwippSchwappSchwen 3 жыл бұрын

lol the text by sheldon brown basically says hellenic stays are impractical if your trying to attach brake cables, luggage racks or framepumps. which you won't on a track bike.

@victorflorest 3 жыл бұрын

I love that frame ..make more vids related to you awesome bike pls

@Aubreykun 3 жыл бұрын

Now I have to know your takes on wheelbase length and fork rake.

@AlexLernt 3 жыл бұрын

What a beauty!

@natfredes1981 3 жыл бұрын

Im gonna be honest with u man, I came here for that saddle bag, its awesome were did u get it?

@ifell3 3 жыл бұрын

Many years ago I had a triple triangle mountain bike called a 'greyhound'. Great geometry!

@MichalBrat Жыл бұрын

The biggest advantage for me is enhanced compliance on my GT bike. Those two side tubes (sorry, I dont know the correct English name) connect directly to the main tube, not being connected to the seat tube at all. They are made of some kind of fiber glass, so they are really stiff in horizontal direction but allow the rear wheel to be comfortable on bumpy roads.

@hectorpinol7951 Жыл бұрын

That thing is beautiful ! Do I have to go to Peru to get one? His color scheme is Sick!

@PeterVonDanczk 3 жыл бұрын

Wikipedia and the brand's webpage says "GT" stands for "Gary Turner", the founder of the company. I owe a GT bike. Love it!

@PeterVonDanczk 3 жыл бұрын

@the iron way No idea! I owe a GT Grade AL frame. And in my part of the world, PDS 290 is a sander power tool ;-)

@harrygoz 3 жыл бұрын

Liked and subscribed！What is the coupler on the middle of the top tube? I assume it’s protection of sorts and I see if often but cannot find clarification anywhere

@yeongkitz2838 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Zach, can you make a video talk about bcd130 vs 144? Thanks

@GordonMoat 3 жыл бұрын

Got a Tribe NYC triple triangle, just because I liked the way it looks.

@robertmyers5269 3 жыл бұрын

Kudos for the call out to Shelly's page. My own experience with Hellenics (though I didn't know the origin of the name then) was that they were yet another way for freaky niche British builders to charge more money for distinctive frames of limited utility.

@harleydavefalcon4842 3 жыл бұрын

any thoughts about a Vintage Semi-horizontal dropout roadbike frame converted into fixed gears?

@channelone422 2 жыл бұрын

I had many different frames over the years. Steel Colnagos, de Rosa, Miyatas. And my GT TT is the best feeling bike I've ever had.

@jeremiahshine 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, good chap. Thanks for the vids and wisdom. I'm a newb to fixed gear and I binged your channel and subscribed. The universe gifted me, after my Daddy-cycle lowrider 😛 was stolen, a 72-73 Motobecane fixed gear Frankencycle. The bike is a large. It taint comfy straddling the bar as it perfectly thuds when I stand flat footed and the seat is all the way down to pedal nicely. Is there anything to shorten her up? 700x25's on it. I wonder how many Fixie points I can get for a bike that's too big to be nimble. It's a fixed-tourist bike for me. A 1/4" lower would be perfect. Lol. The current tires are slicks so I can't use the belt sander.🤔

@mllacsamana 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder when Zach is gonna feature an ave maldea frame

@urobos1 3 жыл бұрын

I mean... looking cool is the single most important thing when building/riding a fixed gear.

@joen3992 3 жыл бұрын

Older rider here: I restore and ride early 90s steel frame GT mountain bikes. That triple frame gives you a bit of flex when riding a trail...makes the ride comfortable. Unlike the aluminum versions of GT triple frames that don't...but that's my opinion. Nice bike btw.

@solodolo6018 Жыл бұрын

Steel is a lot more forgiving than aluminum

@JusTavvy 3 жыл бұрын

My washer came off my super toughness link, probably didn't tighten it enough though. No longer using said link

@sidneythong4680 3 жыл бұрын

We need a GTB build for a bike check!

@joshuastaroselskiy2524 3 жыл бұрын

Could you please review the UNKNOWN Singularity?

@joelw.3921 3 жыл бұрын

I got that same frame 😁😁😁🤗🤗🤗

@frasersimpson3914 3 жыл бұрын

The apartment complex where this bike is looks exactly like the one in Let Me In (2010)

@davidburgess741 3 жыл бұрын

I like the burnt finish on this one! I'm neutral on the triple triangle design. Hopefully Phil wood corrected the rather obvious non drive side bearing to spindle mismatch of GXP. The purple tires complete the package.

@rockybilbao 3 жыл бұрын

love my GTB

@c.w.9615 3 жыл бұрын

Will the standard Wabi crank set work on a State bike?

@chrislukes9037 3 жыл бұрын

While I agree the example image you showed for rear brake routing does look a little funny, I don't get the explanation. At 4:39 you reference the "sharper angle" of the seat stays, but if anything the cable housing is actually making **less** sharp of a turn -- with a standard double triangle frame, the seat stays would be closer to vertical, so the housing would be making a sharper turn from the horizontal top tube. If anything, I've run into issues on double triangle frames where my brake cable housing runs into interference with the seat post binder bolt at the "traffic jam" at the seat stay cluster, which a triple triangle would avoid (but this is more of a practical issue than an aesthetic one).

@jawntanamo_bae 3 жыл бұрын

It’s definitely love it or hate but damn I love it. It’s interesting that the design is so polarizing you can still find some places online selling the BB17 new with a quick google search. I think the Vendetta looks great btw

@JAZZTONRODRIGUEZ 2 жыл бұрын

THANKS 😎

@HeavensMouthpiece 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone know any other sellers of track frame triple triangles? I cant find anything

@andyjame1971 Жыл бұрын

Exactly as described

@jacobvega2133 3 жыл бұрын

That’s my homie Jazzton’s bike 😂

@GutterLivinStargazer 3 жыл бұрын

Zach, how tall are you? And what size is your frame?

@drewstreet4178 8 ай бұрын

Love em, got 2x 1998 gt timberline and 1x 1999 gt tempest, triple tri frames are my favourite by far but i did go bikepacking in august with my timberline and my god it was shit for storing things😂 very fun to ride though despite the added weight, ive been looking for a decent priced gt gtb for ages now and only just found vendetta bikes so may have to get one of them instead

@elmergarcia8724 3 жыл бұрын

I just got a GT gutter ball last week and built it yesterday lol

@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 3 жыл бұрын

Mine is a 90s GT zaskar frame, and I built my commuter bike on this frame

@M.____________ 3 жыл бұрын

sheeeee, shouldve featured my breakbrake17 for this vid instead

@ME-hm7zm 3 жыл бұрын

I'd no idea that kind of masterlink chain ever existed. I suppose with some LocTite blue it should be fine to ride for ages.

@amitkumar-wj8gn 3 жыл бұрын

Extra triangle would be perfect for a frame bag...:)

@Chopperdog Жыл бұрын

I have a satin black triple triangle alloy frame factory built hub motor e-bike with 700C wheels it gets some looks as it looks like an old 80s GT road bike it just needs the drop bars instead of mtb bars..

@andrecalvelo6425 3 жыл бұрын

Ave Maldea Steel frameset review

@SedatedGhostwriter 3 жыл бұрын

If he can get his hands on one.

@ProsperwithGod 2 жыл бұрын

Can u review 6ku bikes?

@timetravelfilms727 3 жыл бұрын

The only problem with a triple triangle is that you can't use those triangular bike bags.

@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 3 жыл бұрын

There are frame bags made for this design too

@ko-biko 3 жыл бұрын

Can anybody tell me what the green frame at 0:06 and 3:54 is?

@Sporophore_Hunter 3 жыл бұрын

I've wanted a vendetta ever since I saw them on ig 🥵

@SimplicityForGood Жыл бұрын

What about the PoloAndBike triple triangle bike that is going for 25% discount now!? Anyone tested it? They call their model CMNDR

@heated817 3 жыл бұрын

clearly sheldon brown doesnt care about the most important spec. Coolness

@BernieHoule 3 жыл бұрын

My screw fell out oof my chain when I stopped at the furthest point from my house. Thank god I had my cell phone with me so that I could call for a ride home.

@momojes_3 6 ай бұрын

We all like to chuck and jive about triple triangle frames but we all know that they're there for tiny framepacks.

@niccstuazon1838 3 жыл бұрын

Here in the Philippines we have the Ave Maldea and pusaworks triple tri design frames hehe

@steven-cu1rk 3 жыл бұрын

could you review some bikes from santafixie.com?

@jessealava7747 3 жыл бұрын

This is a heart breaker, I just had my 2011 GT Gutter Ball stolen last week 😢

@appetit2619 3 жыл бұрын

Lugged next?

@lakishaweaks9784 3 жыл бұрын

I have a GT grade elite gravel.

@devianb 3 жыл бұрын

That triple triangle is the only reason I ever wanted a GT bike.

@Eimrine 3 жыл бұрын

GT Avalanche first revision is my dream bike for touring

@pedrobarros4837 3 жыл бұрын

@@Eimrine I have one of these, but I don't know if it's original or a replica.... Nevertheless, it's a great bike IMO.

@mdlouie 3 жыл бұрын

Are Thomson stem and seatpost just for style, or are they actually superior in performance to cheaper brands?

@cccpkingu 3 жыл бұрын

They work, they don't fail. Made in the US. There are slightly more flexible ones out there if that is the kind of performance you are after. Reasonably light. The Masterclass ones are lighter. Do note that they are on the small side for diameter.

@mdlouie 3 жыл бұрын

@@cccpkingu Thanks for the reply!

@johnkasey6318 3 жыл бұрын

Tribe makes one too

@floshey 3 жыл бұрын

You should have a slight delay before your audio starts in videos. It often sounds like the first word you say gets cut off.

@johnshrader5631 3 жыл бұрын

Dude! My dog's name is Seymour too! :-)

@_oksure_ 3 жыл бұрын

fuck, i need the ti GT pulse in my life

@chupa_mi_dongle 3 жыл бұрын

I want to ride that bike. That is all.

@galenkehler 3 жыл бұрын

I can't ride triple triangle bikes cause my legs rub the stays 😩

@danstumm 3 жыл бұрын

Cool Cool

@davidross8233 3 жыл бұрын

I love triple triangles but don’t like dropped chainstays at all. Go figure.

@dovy6666 3 жыл бұрын

"Stiffer that lo pro riders neck" 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@tomcruz3774 3 жыл бұрын

Wow the pros really do outweigh the cons

@immatureradical 3 жыл бұрын

I ride a poloandbike. Aside the silly name, It's clear that the third triangle doesn't offer any practical advantage. Still, its a sweet ride to get for a price below State cycles and such, as it seems to achieve a good compromise between stiffness and compliance for the road thanks to its oversized cromoly tubing and carbon fork. For a cheap bike that is not crap at all, the third triangle is just a little bonus in eccentricity I guess.

@cygnusx1858 3 жыл бұрын

Wait i have one of those screw in links, are they actually dangerous? Or just reasonable...

@SchwippSchwappSchwen 3 жыл бұрын

they are standard in keirin racing, i cant believe everyone is so worried about chains breaking, you guys know chainsaws exist right? and motor engines have them too?

@Casual_BackPacking Жыл бұрын

I didn't use the Izumi master link that shit is for racing velodrome only

@event4216 3 жыл бұрын

Around 2015 European market seen a SS/FG bike from Romania(?) with dropped stays. Boys, they look distinctive but then triple triangle looks better with its complete parallelogram. Diamond is still unsurpassed. I leave those triple and double triangles (they do exist!) and double top tubes to bike admirers and archeologists....

@nyohaku 3 жыл бұрын

Nice. How about checking a mini-velo next ? (sans elevator muzak)

@danierprat 3 жыл бұрын

Talking about aesthetics I don't like them. But I think they are "stiffer"? Due to more "triangles"?¿

@supervortex8363 Жыл бұрын

ITS A GT COPY...IS THAT NOT UNDER COPY RIGHT?

@Meccanico208 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know how you talk about triple triangle frames without talking about 3Rensho (SAN Rensho) and their triple triangle frames made by Koichi Yamaguchi. Yamaguchi even made GT branded frames for the GT US National team before they were a production frame.