Really good review👍 how about the Tiger 900 GT Pro vs BMW F900XR that would be a very good comparison. 🙌

I belive the rally pro is 870 and 850mm. It is the road biased GT that is 830 and 810mm seat height :)

It would be interesting to see comparison between Tiger 900, Africa twin, V strom 1050, BMW F850 GS, KTM 790 adventure

I would love to see the Africa Twin head to head with the Tiger 900

Anything above 190-200kilos is still way too much for true off-roading. It would be interesting to see how many normal people actually do end up off-roading for significant distances. If it's a just non paved roads that qualifies as off-road, then either of these bikes can do the job. If money were no object, I would opt for the Triumph as most of my riding will be paved or slightly unpaved gravel roads. I prefer the long distance comfort of the Triumph over the Yamaha. But money is an object and I would imagine that the Tenere does 90% of Triumph at 70% of the cost and probably 80% of the comfort. So I guess, Tenere is the choice for me.

Ktm adv r vs tiger 900 rally pro please

Ahhh I can’t decide, I like ‘em both

I was considering either. Going the T7. Simple reliability and after my test ride I felt at home immediately. You can feel the depth of the research Yamaha put in to it with every second you’re riding. It’s just superb. Forget all the tech on the Tiger that’s never going to be totally reliable. If you want a proper ride, the Ténéré gives you that in spades. I sign my name on one this next Thursday 😀 ... sad that Hinckley can’t yet fully compete with Japan but reliability is what I need. The money I save will go in to accessories and personalising.

Exactly the two bikes I'm most interested in purchasing. Thank you for the review!

As always terse yet informative review.

Surely if you were doing apples with apples you'd have gone with base Tiger900 Rally at £11,700.00 against T700 £9,313 (with heated grips) for the price? Rally Pro has all the electronics which T700 clearly can't ever have.

I’ve been riding fifty years, the last twenty includes owning and riding plenty of off-pavement “adventure” bikes. The best advice I was given about pre-purchase adventure bikes is this simple three step test: 1) Pretend you own it. 2) Take the bike off the side stand, hold it steady, then then let it drop on a rock hard surface. 3) If you don’t feel any sense of remorse, dread, or panic it could be the bike for you. Albeit, a fourth step may include a quick getaway from the dealership, but you get the drift . . .

It would have been nice to have a description of the difference in on road performance, acceleration especially, between the 2. The 900 may be around £3000 more but if it's way faster and has better torque off of corners then it might be worth the extra quid.

Loving the tigers sharp looks

not sure the T700 is the ideal comparison. Where is the Africa Twin, the KTM, the BMW????

Big Thumbs Up!!great info...I'll just have to buy both

Good video and a balanced assessment. However your seat height specs are incorrect - the Rally Pro is 850-870 (the road focused GT has the lower seat).

Is it a good sign that channels like this keep comparing the Tenere 700 to bikes 50% more expensive? Is the Tenere that good?

Great video. I've been interested in both of these bikes but I'm tired of waiting for the T7 here in the U.S. (my local dealer says we won't get one until December of 2020). The T7 would have been my first choice because I am the person who really enjoys taking the big bikes off-road literally. I used my KTM 950 Super Enduro R as my dirtbike while riding with my buddies on their 2 stroke machines. The challenge of riding a big bike in hard terrain is incredibly rewarding. That being said I do enjoy long trips also. I rode the TAT - Trans American Trail on my adventurized KTM 500exc and honestly 99% of the time the bike was way overkill and I wished I was on my bigger more comfortable bike. I thought about getting the KTM 790 Adventure R but something about it just doesn't interest me. So basically what I'm saying is there is no right answer. Get what you think will suit you best. I'm thinking I will go with the Tiger 900 Rally Pro when it's available to me here in a month or two. Maybe one day I'll get to test ride a T7 but I'm not holding my breath that long.

I would have thought that the triumph is pitched against the BMW 850 Gs, KTM 790 adventure and probably the Honda Africa twin. Maybe these should be compared?

I'd really like a full comparison between these two and the KTM 790 Adventure, the other top middleweight.

has anyone ridden a GT Pro offroad? would be keen to hear how much offroad (read: light offroad, gravel, green lanes) it can handle. I am a shorter rider and the rally pro is unfortunately too tall.

It's the lack of complicated systems and electronics on the Yamaha that appeal to me . Just get on it and ride. The much lower price would be hard to ignore too.

I loved this review, since I can make my own conclusions. ... The weight is not properly assessed, and even in the video the reviewer claimed Tiger is 220kg, but in reality the Tiger is 201kg dry ... +20kg of fuel, +oil, +brake fluid, +coolant, +fork oil, +etc ... and the final weight will be much higher than simple extra fuel (until someone measures it). So what is the actual weight? ... It may also be possible that the radiator is larger on the Tiger to account for larger motor, hence more coolant. ... We need someone independent to properly weight all the bikes with all required fluids using the 3 scales method (front wheel , bike wheel, side stand). At the end of the day all manufacturers should provide weight of their bike fully fuelled and ready to use, not 80% of fuel, or some arbitrary number. Even minimal maintenance tools should be included in weight, and normal tires not extra slim ones lasting only the trip home from the dealer. People tend to show only their good side and when there's no good side to show, they change the way data is displayed, I hate manufacturers that show only dry weight, makes me not trust them. ... Those 4 extra fuel litres on the Tiger will be weight you have to carry most of the time ... you will probably add fuel less often, but you will be at least 4kg heavier all the time. And this is weight up high. And I suspect that since the motor is bigger you need the extra fuel to account for displacement, weight, etc. ... The crash bars on the Tiger are only for the motor and there is no protection for the radiator and upper fairing. To have the same protection on the T7 you would probably need to add 2 or 3 kg, so that's not that very much. ... The Tiger does have more power since it's a 888cc vs Tenere's 689cc ... so this the the extra 200cc of power, but also extra maintenance, and probably even more expensive insurance. ... Those 20HP more on the Tiger will be of no real use in the trail unless you go flat out and will obviously consume more fuel ... all other reviews point out that int he trail you do not really need a lot of HP. I guess it depends on the rider, but comparing a Tiger 900 with a Tenere 700 we need to realize these things. Where it will help having more HP is going two-up and that's probably only tarmac anyway. ... The actual range is more than 200 miles on the Tenere 700 and this will probably be enough for most... (see link) rockriverpowersports.motorcycles/Motorcycles-Yamaha-Tenere-700-2021-Johnson-Creek-WI-fb7f155e-46bd-45fa-a909-ab11004790bf ... Yamaha also claims a fuel efficiency of 56 mpg and a range of 215 miles ... but it depends on the rider ... the Tiger has an estimated range of 230 miles ... so there is not much difference there ... ... if the T7 carries an extra 4 liters = 0.89 imp.Gal * 56mpg = 49 miles ... so this will put the T7 in front of the Tiger on actual range with an extra 34 miles. ... The actual mileage range on flat ground will also be different as opposed to going up a mountain since the less weight you have to carry the easier it's going to be and the less fuel you will use. The devil's in the details, I know. ... for all those wanting more ... here is another option ... www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/triumph/triumph-tiger-900-2020-rally-gt-pro-review-price-spec ... I think I have to stop analyzing these reviews, ... at the end of the day we should all buy what we love and make the most of it. ... so go out here, buy a motorcycle ... and ride baby ride ...

Hi i would love a comparison video of all adventure bikes that got a 19 inches front wheel: Tiger 900 GT/GT pro, V85TT, V-Strom 650 XT /1050 XT, CB500X, F750GS, R1250GS... I wish we would have much more choice in that category!

Great review at last with a bit of dirt road rather than tootling around the village back roads in U.K. As an ex-Yamaha dirt bike rider I would go for the Yamaha if I could own only one bike. To get it ready for serious adv rides I would spend $ on sorting out the suspension to a decent performance for my weight + 30 kg of luggage. It would need a throttle lock device for the long hours on sealed roads. I would add a 30 L Safari tank too ( if/ when Robin Box makes one ). Extra costs about $2000 Au. I did keep my DRZ400 adventurized for long distance hard terrain trips ( 600 km range) but bought a Tiger 800 Xcx in 2015. I have ridden the Tiger across Oz twice and it coped better than I expected it would. Fuel range with luggage was 340-380 Km at 100 kph. Fuel consumption goes up as you increase speed! As you stated the Tigers are comfortable and fully equipped. I used a flexible fuel bladder to get the 600 km range I needed (fuel stations are rare in the Outback). From what I can see they have addressed most of the weak points on the 15-19 model, with the possible exception of the front fender is too low and prone to breakage if you use knobby tyres ( needs 15 mm riser kit, but not TT kit/ poor design). Can you adjust riding modes on the fly on the Tiger yet? As an experience dirt rider I found the Tiger easier to ride with the Traction Control switched on in slippery mud than my DRZ. Picking up a fully loaded AV bike by yourself several time a day is exhausting on slippery roads or loose gravel! One other thing you didn't mention is air box access. Getting to the air filter on the Tiger is a pain, but you can fit a Uni Filter pre -filter which is a 5 minute change over job. One last thing; you need to test the bikes with 30 kg or so of gear on the rear end to see how it behaves in its role as a mule ( ADV bikes primary role). If you don't, your impression of a bike being good in the dirt unladened, might change to "way too light with load'.( think BMW F800) You can use a strap on system like the Mosko Moto Reckless 80 ( brilliant design IMO) for this task.

The Tiger has heated grips and seats! Plus cruise control. If I can add cruise to a T7 I'm all over it.

Hey guys thanks for the video! Just wondering what the engine performance is like between the tenere and something like the versys 650 or the v strom 650? Which of the bikes feel like it has more torque? Or which one cruises better on a highway or which has the higher top speed? Thanks guys!

I would really like the T7, but we still don't have it in Brazil. I'm going to Tiger 900 rally

Thank you very much for this honest comparison. What is about a comparison of big (like BMW r 12(50) GS (Adventure) bikes with those bikes, like the 900 Tiger rally pro? I would be eager for your report. Thanks a lot in advance.

A nice to the point comparison, thank you. And it’s about what I figured. Tell me, which bike is more comfortable to stand up on? I’m 6‘2“ and have yet to stand on a bike I can stand completely straight up on. I’m probably too tall for that, but I would like to mitigate the hunch lol

Great video, what is the tiger 900 top speed ? And have you ridden the bmw f850gs, if so who would win in a drag race between the f850 and the tiger 900 ?

Nice video...i need a suggestion , I ride 350cc bike and i am thinking of Rally pro....Is it a good decision to switch from 350cc to 900cc or i should go for 600,700series....??

Good review

They say the tenere is 205kg wet , every other review l've seen says 209kg, the tiger comes standard with crash bars, rear rack, alloy handguards and spotlights, the tenere does not, the tiger also has a 20L tank while the tenere only has 16L, so by the time you put all that gear on the tenere and the same amount of fuel in each the difference is about 5 or 6 kg , if you want to compare like for like and the tiger has 25 hp more, just sayin

I get what most people are saying about this not being a "good" or "fair" comparison, and you're all right to an extent. Though I'd wager most of you are just adventure bike lovers or just pounding away at the internet, and not seriously considering purchasing either one of these bikes. If you're seriously looking to purchase a bike right now then this comparison is the one you're looking for (though its conclusion was predictable and not the most helpful). If you want to buy a serious mid weight adventure bike right now that is 60/60 on road and off then you're looking at the Yamaha T700, KTM 790 Adventure R, BMW F850 GS Adventure, and the Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro. All of these bikes will do what you want them to. You can draw a line between the first 2 and the last 2 I mentioned and you would have fair comparisons... but then take the overall winner (including price and styling) from each of those 2 comparisons and this is what you have the cheap no nonsense bike that can do it all (T700) vs. The better equipped more luxurious mo $$$ bike that can do it all (Tiger Rally Pro). It's like Jeep Rubicon vs. Range Rover (land cruiser vs. range rover would be more country appropriate but the modern land cruisers are really nice and cost about the same as a range rover). The Jeep wins in almost every category except for long distance travel and pulling tail from a bar saying I drive a Range Rover ( I literally saw a kid do this in college... didn't work for him that night but I'm sure it has on the wrong kind of girl). If adventure motorcycling is your only interest and hobby, or money isn't an object, then get the Tiger. If you're crossing desserts, already have a bike, or just want to save money then get the Tenere. It looks like I'm going to end up draining the wallet on the Tiger because Yamaha can get almost everything right except for its US product Launch. Really Yamaha? Also apparently dealers are trying to charge full MSRP for the Tiger... that's almost enough to make me wait till December for the T700. Maybe the new version Yamaha has planned will be out by then and it will have a tft screen with bluetooth connectivity and possibly a bigger/ second tank?

would love to see a off road comparison of a nc750x vs the tiger 800, as far can see they would be as good as each other..

Perfect Review @visordown.

Buena comparativa, en precios cuál es la diferencia?

Tenere. It's where less is more. Thanks for this review.

I would like you to compare a Triumph 900 GT pro to a BMW GS 1250. I know there different category but people still cross shop for these two bikes. It would be interesting to know how the tiger being 100 lbs lighter and the bmw having about 40 more horsepower on real world use. How big is the bmw beside the tiger., etc. It would be awesome of a review. Thanks.

172cm here... don't let the seat height of the Tenere discourage you, bike is slim, I faced no issues during my recent test ride. I was super happy with the road performance as well... even in the motorway. So yep excellent commuter.

I’m trying to decide between the Tenere 700 & KTM 1090 Adventure R.

Hello, awesome video and comments. Can you compare DesertX and Tenere 700?

Really great content! Thanks for this video!

What about the price of the tiger rally... not the pro.. ??

How about comparing the Yamaha Tenere 700 vs the BMW F750GS? Would be interesting 🤔

Tiger 900 vs GS 1250 Adventure would be a comparison I'd like to see

Why not Triumph 900 Tiger GT Pro against 1050 Tiger Sport ?

Compression on the front forks on the rally pro didn't look good for a small jump was there room to adjust ?

I have tested both with my wife as pillion. The T7 surprised me by the capability of its engine to deal easily two up ride, with uphill roads and stops, no problem. The new three cylinder is amazing, much more reactive at low rpm. As mentioned in the video, the T7 is more off road oriented and the Tiger more complete as an allrounder. As I would like the T7 to fit me better, I calculated that I would arrive to the same price, maybe even higher as the Tiger, where I don't have to add so many things. I don't really like all the electronics manufacturers put on bikes nowadays but I guess it is like that unfortunately.

I own both and I agree with the review. They are both great bikes with different focuses.

How come you never did a review on the BMW S1000XR... and if you do can you please not compare it only to the old model, and give more emphasis on what can get closer to this bike by real life approach.. Keep doing the great job you already done.. Cheers

Please compare the Street Triple RS vs. the KTM Duke 890

make a difference between triump 900 Gt and multistrada 950 s ...

Compare Bmw F850 GS Adventure VS Triumph Tiger 900 rally pro

I would like to see the new S1000XR when it’s released against the latest multistrader

I am wondering how bad the vibrations are from that new T Plane crankshaft in the Tiger at highway speeds?

did he mention power output ? l think the tiger puts out about 25hp more than the tenere

50 mpg thirsty? You wouldn't want to fill up my Rocket 3 then!

Nick Sanders has just said the T700 is the best adventure bike he has ridden, you can be sure he will have taken it to some wild places.

Honda Africa twin please Review

I own and love both of these bikes. Why? They are both too good to let go. Yes they overlap but they are different enough that everytime I sit down and think about which one I need to sell I just can't. I could offer them both up for sale and the Yamaha would be gone tomorrow, the Tiger would take a few days longer just because it's more expensive (they are both pristine, under 5k miles!). If you had two beautiful wives/girlfriends that wanted to stay together with you, why wouldn't you? 🥰

How does the Triumph Rally Pro compare to the new Honda Africa Twin CRF1100D4? As the best all round and value for money adventure bike!!

Cleverly comparing two bikes you've ridden but aren't actually side by side. All the footage is from bike launches. Interesting comparison, though

Tiger 900 Rally Pro Vs BMW F850GS

A triple comparison for budget adventurists needing to cover wide open spaces (and with similar prices)... - KTM Adventure 390 - Honda CB500x - V-Strom 650 All three have their own issues often tied to rider height. Three stature riders to swap back & forth would make for an epic review for shoppers such as myself.

Can you please confirm the Triumph is manufactured / assembled in Hinckley, England and not Thailand ?

Are we really comparing those two?

Man, in México they are the Tiger is only 40dlls more! Insane price on the T7

This is a nice review, and I understand the point. But the bikes are different. It is a bit like comparing the Kawasaki KLX 250 (very competent dual sport) and the Kawasaki Versys 300 - they do not do the same things, nor are they intended to.

Why not test the Honda African Twin against the Triumph 900? This would be a more balanced comparison!

Tenere 👍

T700 vs ktm 990adv...because I can buy a 990adv for quite a bit less and suspect it’s better at everything...but not sure

Love my Tenere 700. I hardly ride my sportbike anymore.

One thing that is never mentioned is that the Tiger has tubeless rims and the T7 does not, add that to the T7 and see how much the price starts to shrink

It'll be nice to compare T7 with KTM 790 R 👌

Only just bought the Tiger 1200 but think will be seriously tempted in a few years to go for the 900. The Ten is out.....Im a short arse (leg wise anyway)

Very cool! I think I prefer the looks of the Tenere!

KTM 790 Adventure R vs Yamaha Tenere 700...

We are getting to carried away with electronics today, if the control module packs it, and some do, you can bet it happens outside the warranty, they cost $1000 average, when the T7 is ABS, and the rest is up to your riding ability, which you need to gain yourself.

How about one of those Chinese KTM 890 R vs Honda Africa twin. China vs Japanese throw down.

In any case, the Tiger 900 Rally pro. Weight or not I had previously a BMW GS but the Rally pro is a quantum leap in the direction of handiness with the best Design from the UK. the front of the technically certainly good Yamaha is but very accustomed and has something of KTM. Who likes it OK. But with us they say my cat likes mice I do not. Thanks for the test . Continue so

When are the Nordens coming out?

I hated the Tenere on the highway so bought the Tiger 900. The real question is how much comfort and power are you willing to give up on the highway before you even hit the dirt.

New Transalp XL 750 vs Pre-Owned Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro?

This is the perfect bike. 😮

2020 Rocket 3 vs 2020 Vmax

I love Tiger 900

Here In the US the tiger is well over 20k US and the tenere is 10,299 US

'styled like a droid out of a star wars film'. All Triumphs' look like that, as if they were made from looted parts; nothing seems to really fit. Nice vid though and as a comparison I would like to add the Moto guzzi V85 tt to these 2, especially how it holds up against the Ténéré

Tiger 1200 XRt vs 1250GS TE please....

Don’t know what’s the price in UK but in Israel the tiger costs about 30% more so it can’t really compete with the tenere. If the price was lower I probably was ride the tiger

For me, the complete lack of safety features on the Yamaha strikes it off my shopping list. I love the light weight and price, but I will happily pay the extra $7,000 to get cruise control, heated grips and seats, advanced ABS and traction control, and more street-ability. I want to do some light trail riding, but I don't have a vehicle to tow a bike, so I need to be able to ride to the trails on mostly freeway-speed roads.

be easier if you spoke in feet and inches imperial

i'd TOTALLY get the Triumph, or the KTM, if they were Japanese made. but, you, just, simply, cannot, ignore, that, the, t7, is, japanese.

I like the Tiger. But, due to the excessive electronics I would get the Yamaha. Even with the smaller engine.

I don't understand why people are still comparing T700 with bikes from different classes. The Tiger is great, but it is in a group with BMW 850, Honda AT and and maybe KTM 790. T700 is completely different bike with unique idea behind it, nothing like the other fancy expensive full of electronics bikes.

Yamaha for reliability and mass of aftermarket parts. I'll take the most dirt focused bike. Anything will shuffle down tarmac ok just to get to the next fun bit!

The tenere is a fantastic road bike, not sure 🤔 how you have come to the conclusion is isn’t?