Tromba Jazzbone - Review and demonstration

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Tromba Jazzbone - Review and demonstration

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This video is a review and demonstration of the Tromba Jazzbone. A plastic fantastic trying desperately to find its place in the world.
The piece I mutilate in this video is The Bluebells of Scotland.
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@seandecoursey 5 жыл бұрын

Trent’s the man I’m aware of who buys a jazz trombone and plays classical music

@tubadave7476 6 жыл бұрын

"Not really high F, as in scrunch the undies and crinkle the eyelids sort of F" This is why your the best

@numbersix1908 6 жыл бұрын

it's a maj 7th that's why they called it a jazzbone

@pulsebot5710 5 жыл бұрын

underrated comment

@electricharmonyac7354 5 жыл бұрын

vii,or VII?😃

@jameslombardo8535 4 жыл бұрын

Oooohhhhh that’s a good point

@rainyjacktheepic 7 жыл бұрын

Now all we need is a quadruple slides trombone so that all the positions are quartered.

@joecrosstfxc9566 6 жыл бұрын

There'll be like 3 positions lol

@ikirumori 5 жыл бұрын

@@joecrosstfxc9566 exactly

@rollingnsmoking 5 жыл бұрын

no.

@leecoker7562 5 жыл бұрын

@@rollingnsmoking hey youre in the trombone cult with me

@rollingnsmoking 5 жыл бұрын

@@leecoker7562 so it would seem

@colejackson6396 5 жыл бұрын

I love the massive breaths with no care in the world about staying in time

@thenewtrombonium1166 7 жыл бұрын

I think Tromba has a slide limiting rod available for the Jazzbone. That's what the little hollow tube is for. The rod is held in place with the hole near the handgrip and the slide tube rides along it. The rod has a little nub on the end to keep you from losing the slide hitting "7th" position.

@rosskoning 6 жыл бұрын

I have read that there is a safety device that should have been in your case. It is designed to help you while learning the half-spaced positions, and may explain the "mysterious" extra tube you didn't appreciate being in the grip area. A rod that maybe interacts with the tube is supposed to prevent you from going out beyond the half-seventh position and have your slide(s) come apart in the middle of playing.

@Tsmowl 7 жыл бұрын

7:40 Wow. That's actually closer to a major 7th than an octave

@willemkossen 7 жыл бұрын

The extra tube bit is either for holding your cigarette while playing or its a place to put a padlock to lock the instrument. It could also hold a rose if you happen to play an out of tune tango. Why is the word bone associated with brass instrument (including plastic ones) as they are obviously not made of bone or shaped like a bone either?

@especiallyleavish 7 жыл бұрын

Comes from the french word for paperclip, though it could also just be an extension of the word Tromba, which was the name for trumpet in a buncha countries

@oclone120 5 жыл бұрын

or are they made of bone?

@colejackson6396 5 жыл бұрын

What world do you live in, where bone is associated with anything other than the TROMbone, which comes from Italian, where it means large trumpet?

@jackmills5071 4 жыл бұрын

@@colejackson6396 "Axe" was a common slang for a horn in america, so anything could possibly be used to refer to an instrument. Similar to how "keys" can be used to refer to any instrument using a keyboard layout, the exception being accordion or other keyed wind instruments.

@mechwarrior5727 4 жыл бұрын

early versions of the instrument were known as the sackbut (or sagbut, sagbutt, sackbutt etc) but it was also known as trombone in italy, kinda went from there

@tofu.delivery. 7 жыл бұрын

"It's... dirty colored" ROFL

@willemkossen 7 жыл бұрын

Euan Zhang agreed, i had to sit back down after that one too.

@theeverythingchannel5457 6 жыл бұрын

That and 'let me reassemble the slide......takes no more than 7 or 8 minutes' had me dying!! XD

@lowak3 7 жыл бұрын

Nice excerpt from bluebells of Scotland. One of my favorite solos of all time.

@Jurgensen1 2 жыл бұрын

I bet this could be a perfect instrument to sort of be a ‘transfer’ version going from Tenor Trombone to Soprano Trombone. Now we need a Soprano Jazzbone to transfer to the Piccolo Trombone!

@samuelmac1054 7 жыл бұрын

I had one of those but I couldn't get my assorted liquids out with the spit valves

@malthuswasright 7 жыл бұрын

On a jizzbone, presumably...

@marycomiskey530 5 жыл бұрын

Assorted liquids 😂😂😂

@Metal-Possum 5 жыл бұрын

Ask it to swallow.

@philen 5 жыл бұрын

yo need sum jizzvalves on yo tromboner

@mr.mister2619 5 жыл бұрын

"it is no longer white. It is.... Dirty colored" 10/10

@danielnewman134 2 жыл бұрын

They should rename it from Tromba to Trauma, because that is what the player and the listener will experience with the sound that this plastic novelty makes. The extra tube is for a blow dart. If the woodwind section goes out of tune, the tromba player fires a tranquilizer dart to put them to sleep until the concert ends.

@fortepiano4491 7 жыл бұрын

You should learn a piece called 'Miss Trombone'. It's more advanced, but hella fun to play. Teddy Trombone is another.

@anthonydang6727 7 жыл бұрын

Forte Piano it's not that hard, I think it is grade 4 level

@billygarvey633 7 жыл бұрын

Forte Piano I did this in eight grade. Given, I'm a trumpet player and our prodegy-home schooled trombone player did the Bone part

@MR5er1 5 жыл бұрын

The Wise Teddy Bear too

@jointsmoke3767 7 жыл бұрын

I personally have this instrument. The hole on the slide you mentioned is for a plastic rod that connects the outer slide to the inner slide so that you don't accidentally overextend the outer slide and have it fall off while playing.

@aidenbagshaw5573 4 жыл бұрын

That’s not an out-of-tune F, that’s an E. It’s not a fault, it’s a feature.

@indieWellie 3 жыл бұрын

it just works

@kingofhere1662 7 жыл бұрын

I don't know ... I don't want to say anything negative because I love your videos so much. Please don't take this the wrong way. While it's clear this is not a great instrument, It sounds like you're not warmed up or you've not played Blue Bells in a while. I'm not convinced that we are seeing this instrument's true potential. I'm really sorry; I hope you don't take this is negative criticism.

@PimpedKoalas 7 жыл бұрын

I don't think he'll take offence to it, it's honest feedback. But I didn't get that vibe from his playing, I think it just has to do with halved slide positions. If you play trombone, you can imagine how hard it is to play everything a few inches farther in than you're used to. If you play a valved instrument, imagine playing some notes regular, some notes a half step up and others a full step up. Challenging stuff. Edit: just rewatched it. Didn't realize the cracks the first time. Oh well, some people have bad playing days. Or maybe he didn't warm up. Who knows

@sascharambeaud1609 7 жыл бұрын

He's also using the plastic mouthpiece, which is less than ideal.

@lucassherfey9119 7 жыл бұрын

That's a good point- I play the trombone, and it looked like he was having some difficulty adjusting to this in the beginning of the video. I also thought that the video was unnecessarily critical though- his others do it quite well, but it just seemed forced here. Plastic instruments aren't as bad as he makes them out to be, either (although by my experience they're still a long shot away from brass quality)

@sascharambeaud1609 7 жыл бұрын

I don't see where he's overly harsh, actually. The fact that the high f isn't in tune - which was something I observed on mine too and prompted me to return it, luckily customer rights are pretty good in the EU - is pretty much a deal breaker. Unfortunately it's too low, so kind of hard to correct, other than using the alternative position. Otherwise I found the thing really fun to play, even despite some too sharp edges, that cumbersome slidestopper restricting finger space and the sound the slide makes.

@FearghasG 7 жыл бұрын

I wish I'd seen this before I bought one. I was intrigued by plastic but didn't want to replicate anything I already had in brass. This instrument seemed like it expanded the scope of experimentation more, but due to its flaws (the flat F... he's not got a lemon, mine does the exact same as do others, and the pinching tube thing which serves no purpose) make this instrument unplayable. Which is a shame, because its sound is REALLY GOOD. It bottoms out very fast because there isn't enough density to vibrate well for lower notes (even Bb octave below middle C you start to notice it) but it really sings higher notes probably for the same reason that it sucks for low notes. The nice sound has been handy to overdub a few times in recording but I would never play this live.

@wildgator 7 жыл бұрын

I own one of these. The plastic feels nice in your hands, but be wary of the brittle spit valves. Also the inner slides with the black tips wiggle off the slide assembly for some reason and slip back on. Very novelty but a fun time. Don't stick one of your quality metal mouthpieces in these, after a bit of playing, they will become stuck inside the brittle thing and I've tried everything to get that bugger out

@macklive3257 7 жыл бұрын

brilliant video!!!!! i am so happy that your channel exists!!!

@willemkossen 7 жыл бұрын

Mack_Playz same

@FanTrombone 7 жыл бұрын

I enjoy the critic"s of the instruments you have been providing.

@danielbarrios3028 7 жыл бұрын

heard there was an earthquake /tsunami around were you live today. everything alright?

@cobalt._.27 5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Barrios yes he is alright

@eporeon 7 жыл бұрын

How do you find/own all these instruments? Almost every single one of your videos has an instrument I've never heard of.

@noapleb5397 7 жыл бұрын

he buys them on sites like ebay. thats why most of them are not in great condition

@BrunoNeureiter 5 жыл бұрын

@@noapleb5397 that's an amazing insult

@BrunoNeureiter 2 жыл бұрын

@@mihailmilev9909 I don't remember

@fadededed 7 жыл бұрын

im confused but hey what the hell i play clarinet

@brycepoindexter6803 7 жыл бұрын

Same

@diegorangel419 7 жыл бұрын

Same

@mattiasolsson1757 7 жыл бұрын

Me too. But I also play the trumpet, trombone, baritone, organ, piano, guitar and maybe some more. :)

@crushingrocks 7 жыл бұрын

same lol

@xen0vantage542 7 жыл бұрын

Mattias Olsson Trumpet, Alto trombone, tenor trombone, baritone, French horn, and piano

@bobbynunu12 7 жыл бұрын

LOL I like that eraser idea with the rubber stoppers! so resourceful!

@roblamastus 2 жыл бұрын

Love watching your old video and seeing how much you and your wall of noisy things change.

@realityx8908 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I can hear the intricate music made by the slide accompanied by those pitched notes, so slidey, so plasticy.

@TXGrackle 7 жыл бұрын

I've still got the scar of when I pinched myself with the slide. Didn't even know Tromba made this.

@cobalt._.27 5 жыл бұрын

Cesar Cortez that happened to me this morning in jazz. O u c h .

@sascharambeaud1609 7 жыл бұрын

That mysterious extra tube used to hold a stick approximately the length of the slide. It runs through a hole in the slide crossbar and - having a stopper at the end - prevents the outer slide from being inadvertently pulled off from the inner slides. Which is something that's happening quite frequently if you're used to regular trombone positions, specifically NOT used to such a short end position ;). That stick was kind of uncomfortable though, depending on how one holds the slide while playing, so maybe they shelved the concept.

@mal2ksc 7 жыл бұрын

This concept (the short, double slide) was used on an instrument called a "quadro" back in the 1970s. Not many were made, but they too were considered jazz instruments. As for that flat high F, I bet there's a bit of plastic constricting the bore somewhere, and if you could knock it out without breaking anything in the process, that might be correctable.

@stevelanderson8996 7 жыл бұрын

why didn't u play a jazz piece

@BrashNZ 7 жыл бұрын

I think Trent is FIRST & FOREMOST a Brass Band man.

@compside 5 жыл бұрын

Because blue bells

@kairs621 5 жыл бұрын

Terd Nugget blue bells of New Zealand

@blastckxxgd5729 5 жыл бұрын

“And that is a high F. Not REALLY high F, as in scrunch the undies and crinkle the eyelids sort of F. “ - Hent Tramilton

@workshopman1551 6 жыл бұрын

0:11 RIP Trent's fingers. I do that all the time.

@cbfedge5593 4 жыл бұрын

If they had actuated both valves at the same time, not enough air would've reached the second tube to empty it well, no?

@jessstuart7495 4 жыл бұрын

I think the purpose of the little tube is just so you install the slides in the correct orientation. If the slides are rotated 180 degrees, your spit-valves will be on top, which is usually undesirable.

@rainyjacktheepic 7 жыл бұрын

The little tube is for a stopper, so that the slide doesn't get pulled off as it is half length.

@willemkossen 7 жыл бұрын

rainyjacktheepic that is a much better theory than mine.

@poemedufeu 6 жыл бұрын

It would only be twice is loud if you had 10 slides, Trent. I know. The slides are very loud either way.

@daisybetlej765 7 жыл бұрын

NEVER TRUST AN INSTRUMENT THAT CHANGES SHAPE WHEN YOU PLAY IT PLEASE IM TELLING YOU

@SpartacusLegends117 7 жыл бұрын

the length of tubing on the slide is the same as a regular tenor bone. it is half the length if you measured with a rule from the slide lock to the bottom where the end cap and water key is. thus bone was made to compliment trombone players in jazz because they typically have ti move great distances especially in solos. and I do think they could have made it a better quality

@alvarocerritos 7 жыл бұрын

I think I know why that little piece of tubing on the slide is there. it would have a plastic stick that would be connected at the beginning of the slide and that little tube is to hold it in place, but yours doesn't have the plastic stick

@jojoUK120 6 жыл бұрын

Hey I like the idea of half length slide for short arms and confined spaces. I hope there are proper trombones like that.

@alexcarter8807 7 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure which is more entertaining, all the unusual instruments you come up with or your particular brand of English.

@privatecocky8971 7 жыл бұрын

Tromba KenBone. I had to.

@willemkossen 7 жыл бұрын

Private Cocky more like a boneless tromba...

@evanwhite5704 7 жыл бұрын

The little rod on the slide might be a little tube so you can make your own german water key

@billygarvey633 7 жыл бұрын

Actually, double the slides does not mean it's twice as loud. I believe you would need 10x the slides to make it twice as loud, someone correct me if I'm wrong

@mossmelon 7 жыл бұрын

I think he was talking about the sound the slide makes when it rubs against the other peice of the slide

@phillipstone4383 7 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that tube is for your mouthpiece to go if you wanna do mouthpiece excercizes and use the slide

@jarofdirt2566 7 жыл бұрын

Maybe that small tube is so you know which way to put the slide on.

@rbwirth12 7 жыл бұрын

If both water keys were pressed at the same time, the key closest to the mouthpiece would be emptied with more force than the second. If only one key is depressed at a time, the force is more efficient to empty the water.

@cdgonepotatoes4219 6 жыл бұрын

I kinda like the aesthetics of plastic "brass" instruments and the light weight sure is appealing... but so far I really haven't found one with a good plastic that doesn't seem to grind away just by looking at it

@grammit 7 жыл бұрын

i like the independent water keys - i like to blow the water out and having them both open wouldn't be as efficient for me

@jimgarlock33 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for enduring that for our benefit

@FreezingGamer1 7 жыл бұрын

Funny that I just started learning Bluebells of Scotland

@stokerboiler 7 жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea, but shoddily executed. Plastic slides are inherently noisy, high drag, and tend to abrade themselves. The out-of-tune high F just indicates that the instrument was rushed to market without working out the bugs.

@mr.klunee4103 5 жыл бұрын

high F is naturally sharp on all trombones unless you play flat-1st position (halfway between 1 and 2)

@SamuelPlaysBrass 5 жыл бұрын

@@mr.klunee4103 precisely; high F has to be played with the slide out a bit on any normal trombone, making it extra weird that this one's high F is somehow flat. How Tromba pulled off such a glorious failure I cannot say.

@mr.klunee4103 5 жыл бұрын

Samuel Plays Brass yeah, I would guess it's the unusual double slide (because it affects the length of tubing) that throws it off but who knows.

@averybondeson2642 6 жыл бұрын

I'm working on an arrangement of the Blue Devils' trombone feature on just plastics. I'm using jazzbones for the trombone parts. Wish me luck

@rumbleyd 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you stopped when you did. That was almost painful. Thanks for the review.

@fatlessauto3 5 жыл бұрын

I'm watching this on the day it came out 2 years later

@fatbetrn1976 5 жыл бұрын

Blue Bells of Scotland 👌🏼

@Xenol1997 7 жыл бұрын

Please look at some of the obscure Wessex Tubas instruments!

@hayesman76 3 жыл бұрын

I wish that in your videos you played pop brass tunes from time to time such as songs made famous by Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass. I bet lots of your viewers would appreciate it as well. For example, with this instrument you could’ve played some of the melodies made famous by the TJB’s trombonist Bob Edmundson.

@inspiration_5877 7 жыл бұрын

Woah 212 likes 0 dislikes :O Keep up the videos Trent ;)

@deanduffy4722 Ай бұрын

I need this because my arms are too short to reach past 5th position

@tristanrush5526 6 жыл бұрын

I kind of like it. It is a bit of a novelty, which is why I like it. It would be a cute member of some sort of traveling jazz band, that would play outside of their cute Volkswagen bus at festivals. The sound itself sounds jazzy, in my opinion. Also that out-of-tune F could be a jazzy thing the band might do. Who knows. I thought the video was very interesting.

@Thindoublechin 5 жыл бұрын

That tube is for holding your joint whilst playing.

@JonFrumTheFirst 7 жыл бұрын

Half length slide means cutting the acceptable range around each position in half as well. Bad for intonation

@adraelsen 7 жыл бұрын

I have a friend with one of these trombones and where you have the two holes she has a plastic bar that seems to be blocking the slide from coming off while playing. I can check with her and see though.

@lukesoelter7474 7 жыл бұрын

+Trent Hamilton a girl In my class has a sia musical trumpet and I kinda feel bad

@emorigami7108 7 жыл бұрын

Great video! I enjoyed it!Also I hope you are safe, I've been hearing about the Earthquake down there!

@ZombucksCoffee 7 жыл бұрын

Finally the cute little jazzbone! Would you recommend it for a travelling trombone for holidays?

@coffeyscarburetors6437 6 жыл бұрын

I think its there so you cant put the slide together the wrong way.

@kooleeon 7 жыл бұрын

I have a 49 year old cornet and all of the slides are stuck. How can I fix them?

@csatterley 7 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a French Horn. I've known proper pro horn brands that are also notorious for having poor tuning on the high F, to the extent that players on these instruments have adapted to always playing it on 4th.

@justinthomas7529 5 жыл бұрын

The little tube for a lyre maybe?

@zackary-z 7 жыл бұрын

trent will you please do a top 5 / 10 trombones and trumpets based on personal experience and if you have already done that im sorry for sounding like a broken record thx :b

@silassherbundy4770 5 жыл бұрын

Now can you put the slide on a normal trombone

@samlasalle3853 7 жыл бұрын

nice end clip

@memelab5183 7 жыл бұрын

If it's a jazz bone then where is jazz music

@kylerfreeland6294 7 жыл бұрын

so what is the purpose for the instrument, as in is it designed to do anything special or is it just for the fun of it they made it. and also great video once again

@buzzinbethan 7 жыл бұрын

As the rest of my family is rather musical I'd like to get my little brother (a tiny 8 year old) a preferably plastic trombone for Christmas. What would you recommend? I was interested in this as he's so small he'd be able to reach the end.

@TrentHamilton 7 жыл бұрын

My only real issue with this instrument is the face the tuning is out of whack on the high F harmonic.

@Varadict 7 жыл бұрын

I recommend NOT going with Tromba, Go with Pbone. :)

@_helium_ 7 жыл бұрын

if you want to buy a plastic, Tiger is best

@2runnapaul988 7 жыл бұрын

Adam Bergen is a plastic tuba or bronze better ??

@_helium_ 7 жыл бұрын

Paul Gt I don't know tubas. I didn't even know they made them out of bronze.

@SuperRed876 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Trent, I am a junior in high school and want to get a new horn I need something that can play jazz and symphonic (unless one is phenomenally better than the other) I need something that's good at both. The trumpets I am looking at are the Back 180s37, Schilke X3, and the Bach LT190 "commercial" trumpet. What is your opinion on the matter because I am utterly stuck between horns, Thank you.

@Varadict 7 жыл бұрын

Could you possible do a review of an Allora Plastic Trombone? (Perhaps the Metallic Silver/Gold varieties?)

@Patrick-zm9yn 7 жыл бұрын

Make a video on the jazzophone

@parkercote6644 7 жыл бұрын

I was always told the bell lined up more or less with 4th position....

@josedconde6663 7 жыл бұрын

Parker Cote Band directors teach that to their kids due to the simplicity of it (like he said, it's a landmark), but once you start teaching more mature students, you can teach them more accurate positions according to the intonation of the horn.

@Imlukechildress 7 жыл бұрын

Love the new intro

@chrisblack2625 7 жыл бұрын

Well, mr. Hamilton, did you enjoy that earthquake? And tromba has moved up in the world

@AlgyCuber 5 жыл бұрын

what's the difference between a trombone and a jazzbone?

@kevindavis8275 7 жыл бұрын

You need to try out out the tiger plastic instruments, I have heard great things about them and the few videos I have watched have show promise.

@yuthful 7 жыл бұрын

Do a video on your favorite trombone

@PaulyHerdsCows 7 жыл бұрын

Could you do a review or tell me how the Glory Bb Trumpet is? I play saxophone in band, but i wanna play trumpet just for a hobby. So I dont want to spend much

@PixiLord123 6 жыл бұрын

But Trent, how would the air even reach the second spitvalve if the first one was already open? The air would simply escape through the first valve thingy. Most of it doesn't just come out dripping either.

@TrentHamilton 6 жыл бұрын

No, most of the air continues through the instrument.

@PixiLord123 6 жыл бұрын

fair enough

@arielhernansuaznabar9527 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Trent. How are you? I think that this instrument is made for a child. That should be why in the slide section there is an extrange tube because his/her hands are small so maybe (just maybe) it is an aid to hold this trombone properly. If you found out if it is for another reason, please let me know. In my my case it is just a guess :)

@MichaelSidneyTimpson 7 жыл бұрын

So does it really facilitate playing fast Bebop better or allow young kids to play all positions? All questions for what must have been the reason it exists.

@aycc-nbh7289 2 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t sound like it if it means that even greater precision is necessary, as evidenced by the instrument’s intonation issues in the ending piece.

@noblestarstoforumclan7730 7 жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm a high school trombonist. I've been watching your videos and agree with your judgements. I've watched the pbone video and was wondering if you could do a video on tiger's plastics bass trombone. I'd like to know if it's worth buying instead of a cheaper brass bass trombone.

@MrDarthGravy 7 жыл бұрын

I bought a pBone about a year ago and honestly did not enjoy playing it. The friction on the slide never seemed to get any better with use and the scratching sound just made the music sound awful. I can only imagine playing a Jazzbone with double the noise...

@tommymcguire7615 5 жыл бұрын

MrDarthGravy same

@a_literal_brick 7 жыл бұрын

Before watching the video, I'm going to guess that the slide is really hard to use.

@a_literal_brick 7 жыл бұрын

But, hey if you want to waste $189 on an even worse version of a plastic trombone. No one's stopping you from buying this.

@a_literal_brick 7 жыл бұрын

I would like to see this made of real brass.

@mal2ksc 7 жыл бұрын

They exist. They were called a "quadro" or "quadrobone" and were made in the 1970s.

@PrinceSwaggy 6 жыл бұрын

You sound best on trombone then any other instrument you play in my opinion

@herminiocabiya535 7 жыл бұрын

I love your vids keep up the good work

@jtmid2000 7 жыл бұрын

6:00 I definitely don't do that. Most certainly not. Never. Hasn't even crossed my mind.

@MaloneBrown 7 жыл бұрын

Trent I play trombone in my school band and it's my second year playing. I feel like I have problems with my mouthpiece pressure because I often get a red ring around my mouth after playing for a small amount of time. It also sometimes hurts. Could you make a video on mouthpiece pressure ir something like that?