Why Scania & Volvo Keep Battling To Be The Strongest?

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Why Scania & Volvo Keep Battling To Be The Strongest?
Volvo Trucks has just launched its latest marvel, the Volvo D17 engine, setting a new benchmark in the heavy-duty trucking industry. Designed specifically for the iconic FH16 truck series, this 17-liter engine boasts an unprecedented power output of up to 780 horsepower and a staggering 3800 Newton-meters of torque.
Which is just enough to outperform the Scania V8 engine with 770 hp and 3700 Nm, making Volvo the strongest truck engine manufacturer in Europe.
But why have Scania and Volvo always battled to have the strongest engine?
let's take a look back at the history behind the rivalry between Scania and Volvo
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00:00 start
00:52 let's go back to the 1950s
03:35 In the 1980s
06:14 When Volvo Took the Crown
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@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia 2 ай бұрын
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@spoony00se
@spoony00se 10 күн бұрын
Why would you show American trucks when specifically speaking of the Swedish brands??
@mnls7878
@mnls7878 2 ай бұрын
The most impressing thing for me is that both truck leaders are made from the same country!!!Huge Respect
@Ghostrider-gn8ml
@Ghostrider-gn8ml 2 ай бұрын
Some dates are wrong. Indeed Scania introduced the new model range in 2016 but they kept the 730hp as top of the line until late 2020 when they introduced the newest V8 engine generation with its 770hp. So Scania didnt had the crown for eight years. It was just a bit more than 3 years until Volvo launched their brand new 17.3l engine.
@savagememes873
@savagememes873 2 ай бұрын
yup also scania has made a 1000hp truck to but it's some really special custom made one specificaly made for some mining industry i belive.
@dionisisdimoudis8543
@dionisisdimoudis8543 2 ай бұрын
@@savagememes873 also volvo has a 1050 hp engine custom made , but we are talking about a mass production trucks and engines. So if u want the strongest u choose volvo
@ciaronmackle5807
@ciaronmackle5807 2 ай бұрын
This channel gets most of their information totally wrong
@imortaliz
@imortaliz 2 ай бұрын
@@savagememes873 you can just remap a 770 and get 1000hp
@BoitumeloMabena-jj2kf
@BoitumeloMabena-jj2kf 2 ай бұрын
Yes until 23 September 2020
@keno77
@keno77 2 ай бұрын
Both Volvo and Scania are superb trucks and amazingly they are both manufactured in little Sweden 😊
@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia 2 ай бұрын
Well both brands has manufacturing facilities around the world
@turboturtle8977
@turboturtle8977 2 ай бұрын
@@TruckTropia That is so true. In the UK the 2014 R450 Scania I drive was made in Netherlands. In Brazil Scania has manufacturing facilities, a major player in South America. Today, Scania has production facilities in Sweden, France, the Netherlands, Thailand, China, India, Argentina, Brazil, Poland, Russia and Finland. In addition, there are assembly plants in ten countries in Africa, Asia and Europe.
@TerrorBlade66
@TerrorBlade66 2 ай бұрын
Man is the best
@Coole-ee1vg
@Coole-ee1vg Ай бұрын
@@TruckTropia Yea, but still Swedish brands.
@jonasastrand9945
@jonasastrand9945 Ай бұрын
@@Coole-ee1vg Scania is not Swedish today.
@SanderleiSouza
@SanderleiSouza 2 ай бұрын
Some Americans be like: "what is 'Scania'?"
@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia 2 ай бұрын
😅
@thierrygamer2413
@thierrygamer2413 2 ай бұрын
maybe because you don't know the Scania T
@DaveeeOnTop
@DaveeeOnTop 2 ай бұрын
​@@thierrygamer2413still scania isn't that present in the US, so many people don't know about it
@thierrygamer2413
@thierrygamer2413 2 ай бұрын
@@DaveeeOnTop scania is present in the us, look for the scania T or torpedo 😄
@DaveeeOnTop
@DaveeeOnTop 2 ай бұрын
@@thierrygamer2413 present but not present enough
@AutoMotive_Vision
@AutoMotive_Vision Ай бұрын
Incorrect, Scania revealed the 770Hp late 2020 so they held the crown until early 2024 when Volvo brought out the D17 engines with 780Hp
@blomsterfreak
@blomsterfreak Ай бұрын
acuatlly the scania is still the toughest ! as scania's hp is measured on the wheels.. and the volvo is measured on the crank..
@donk4254
@donk4254 Ай бұрын
@@blomsterfreak scania measures at the diff but otherwise correct :)
@alirezajaleh6558
@alirezajaleh6558 2 ай бұрын
Great as always ❤❤
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 2 ай бұрын
The battle must exist to improve the trucks. All Scania has to do is remap the V8 and itll be at 800 hp and still running clean. Then Volvo will go 830 hp and 4200 Nm of torque, and so on and so on.
@bendermi
@bendermi 2 ай бұрын
They are making the engines more efficient that's why they are getting stronger . The one with the strongest transmission is the winner . Do you know if the Scania is having full power in all gears?
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 Ай бұрын
@bendermi no, unless the customer asks for that style of mapping. Even when the transmission is put in manual mode you don't get max power in the lower gears unless you ask the dealer to do it or get a remap from someone. The Volvo I drive now has a moderate hp/high torque tune from the factory ( 455hp/1850 ft-lbs ) and in manual mode or performance mode the engine doesn't go nowhere near the horsepower peak just because of the factory tune. It shifts slow and low, and gets high 7s to low 8s all the time. It can do better with more responsive tuning but the factory tune is for a new driver so they don't kill themselves. I've been driving for decades and am used to manual trucks and high powered vehicles.
@bendermi
@bendermi Ай бұрын
@@hoost3056 I was on the road in the seventies and eighties with my dad , we was driving an F89 , at that time the Scanias was breaking down because of a weak driveshaft, he told me the “fix” was to put in a driveshaft from Volvo , he also told me the Scania only had full power from sixths gear and up .
@lanfenglxf
@lanfenglxf 2 ай бұрын
0:48 I can recognize the image is shot from ETS2
@kristjen86A
@kristjen86A 2 ай бұрын
I can't believe I didn't spot it, well spotted! Such a fun sim to play and drive.
@metehantuzcu1037
@metehantuzcu1037 2 ай бұрын
Scania - VABİS V8 Legend.
@isaacsmith1874
@isaacsmith1874 25 күн бұрын
3:31 you need to credit Stavros969.
@RoadRunner1980
@RoadRunner1980 2 ай бұрын
I think it's more their fanbases that keeps battling.
@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia 2 ай бұрын
True 😅
@SaiCharanReddy-oz8ez
@SaiCharanReddy-oz8ez 2 ай бұрын
@@TruckTropia I love Volvo than Scania, because Volvo is still ruling the luxury bus market in our India, whereas Scania has discontinued their buses in India and only manufacturing trucks. But Volvo is manufacturing both trucks and buses in our India. Trucks are by Volvo and Eicher and buses are by Volvo itself
@yoandeul9297
@yoandeul9297 2 ай бұрын
Fr
@bendermi
@bendermi 2 ай бұрын
The horsepower increases because of higher efficiency, but the real power is the torque and everybody knows who got that right from the start . So no need for a battle . Without the driveshaft from Volvo the other truck would still be breaking down.
@gravyfoodbest988
@gravyfoodbest988 2 ай бұрын
​@@SaiCharanReddy-oz8ezScania buses here in the Philippines are rare and comfortable
@johnjoseph3908
@johnjoseph3908 Ай бұрын
I love the FMX 500. It's one of the best-looking trucks in my opinion.
@SimplyTakuma
@SimplyTakuma 2 ай бұрын
Well they have a good competition and many big hauling companys and heavy duty oversized goods are transportet with those trucks, so many fleets are out there.
@sollydeaguiar2221
@sollydeaguiar2221 2 ай бұрын
Here in South Africa...85 % of lowbeds carrying the HEAVIEST OF THE HEAVIEST LOADS ARE VOLVO'S... MAYBE 10%%SCANIA'S... THE OTHER WANNABE'S A PALTRY 5% OF THE REST COMBINED!!!
@adamhlali8106
@adamhlali8106 Ай бұрын
Swede here: Why did Saab and Volvo battle over safety? Simple: Cause why the fuck not? Some healty competition never hurts. One makes something better and the other one has to step its game up and so one. Eventually both will be better in general than the rest. Volvo and Saab cars were among the safest in the world at their glory time. And Scania and Volvo are among the best trucks in its own league above the rest. Also, as a worker at research on Scania, hearing the news of the 780 Volvo... It made most of us laugh... Like come on 10hp? I guess 800 is there for us... Unlike their D17, our DC16 is proven, and capable of 1200... Just needs a stronger gearbox and aftertreatment system. And also cooling.
@markusylitalo8376
@markusylitalo8376 28 күн бұрын
Years ago I laughed at Volvos ad about their newest engina at the time. "We have gained the tourque of the V8". They referred to Scanias top engine at the time. I thought, do they really think that Scania stopped developing their V8?! I don't think I6 will ever gain the tourque of V8 as long they both developed simultanius. And if it true that one here said that Volvo messurres from flywheel and Scania from wheels, the comparing is unfair.
@adamhlali8106
@adamhlali8106 27 күн бұрын
@@markusylitalo8376 I think both measure the engine. You cant measure torque on the wheels, just horsepower. The torque at the propshaft is around 26000+ nm. And you can reach the torque of a V8 in an I6, however, something that isnt talked about is power delivery. A V8 has a much more balanced power output, while a I6 have "deadspots" where the engine isnt pumping out the top power even if its in the right RPM range. And yes, it is noticable if you drive one. I notice the different engines after a few meters.
@kingyuonobryant1416
@kingyuonobryant1416 2 ай бұрын
I thank there both nice trucks
@yourgtadaily
@yourgtadaily Ай бұрын
Speaking of Volvo and Scania, I am interested in one question - since in Australia they use both European and american models of trucks, and both cabovers and long nosed, and we all know that both Scania and Volvo have long nosed models like the Volvo VNL and Scania T series, why aren't these two models of the brands popular in Australia? May be you can do a video on that topic.
@audoinxr6372
@audoinxr6372 24 күн бұрын
T cabs don't exist from factory anymore. We still see the older series 3 ones from time to time. Volvo dropped the VN series back in late 90s and no one can say why. Although the new VNLs being 100% American manufactured means that it would be a large task to get RHD and Aus legal. Something they don't want to bother with in such a small market.
@andysvehiclehistorychannel
@andysvehiclehistorychannel 2 ай бұрын
Scania R Series 2005 Volvo FH4 2013 Scania Next Generation 2016
@smurface549
@smurface549 2 ай бұрын
I'm inclined to believe that they don't battle each other for having the most powerful engine for the sake of having the most powerful engine. Instead, they both operate in the same market and neither can affort to fall significantly behind. Also in parts of Scandinavia and Finland trucks can be significantly more heavy than elsewhere (exception is of course Australia), and it's often somewhat mountaineous terrain. So even with 780HP it might not be an absurd abundance of power and the need for more is easily justifiable. It then boils down to who's having the more lucky hand with their latest development, and when the next release of a newer version happens.
@optify9971
@optify9971 25 күн бұрын
there is so many misinformation in this video. The Scania 4 series had 530 horsepower back in 1995 not 470 you can even see it on the grill smh, the Scania R series had 620 horsepower in 2005 not 580, the 730 horsepower was indeed released in 2010 but in 2016 when the next generation scania trucks came (R and S series) it still had the 730 horsepower. the 770 came in 2020
@petarelez595
@petarelez595 2 ай бұрын
3:20 stolen clip from Stavros969 video about Volvo F10. Clip shows Rory Linch himself
@BURZT_YT
@BURZT_YT 2 ай бұрын
Yea, he's a little shitty on not giving credit on the clips
@tobyytlai
@tobyytlai 2 ай бұрын
​@@BURZT_YT That's called stealing. This channel is a thief
@BURZT_YT
@BURZT_YT 2 ай бұрын
@@tobyytlai fr,
@landryabraham642
@landryabraham642 Ай бұрын
They both great machines made by great people's highest quality of engineering
@williamjohnrigneyjr1839
@williamjohnrigneyjr1839 2 ай бұрын
Ten horsepower difference is not a battle. That is just marketing BS.
@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia 2 ай бұрын
😂
@AXXeYY
@AXXeYY 2 ай бұрын
the reason why Scania & Volvo is so good is this battle that has been going on for 100 years know!
@ontheroadagain4773
@ontheroadagain4773 Ай бұрын
At first sight it seems that Volvo's D17 engine is just a drilled up D16 - the same stroke but a bigger cylinder bore - but I believe there is more than that...
@d.natrop4495
@d.natrop4495 Ай бұрын
Short answer: marketing
@pachokardana6192
@pachokardana6192 Ай бұрын
Simpler is better so inline is the better engine of the two . Less moving parts better balance , smoother, less fuel , less repair costs, longer life span , more torque at low rpm, wider powerband.....they are a lot to count
@yahyayarim5774
@yahyayarim5774 2 ай бұрын
Rica etsem altyazılardaki otomatik çeviri seçenekleri arasına ‘Türkçe’ dil seçeneğini de ekleyebilir misiniz? Sizi anlamak ve takip etmek istiyorum! Saygılar ve başarılar.
@udififkfkfck
@udififkfkfck 2 ай бұрын
Both these engines are not some of the most powerful in the world and not only in Europe! These beasts are the 2 most powerful on the planet without any other matching equivalent!,
@hihaveaniceday9386
@hihaveaniceday9386 Ай бұрын
Nope, there is the most powerful for on highway use but not the most powerful engines in the world at all
@luisvalentim99
@luisvalentim99 Ай бұрын
wrong Chinese shaman 8000 is the most powerful one with 800 hp
@originalguy4535
@originalguy4535 2 ай бұрын
We want to know who is more reliable and durable. Scania or Volvo?
@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia 2 ай бұрын
Depends on mode and engine
@originalguy4535
@originalguy4535 2 ай бұрын
@@TruckTropia pls make video on this
@Lil_Atrax
@Lil_Atrax 2 ай бұрын
@@originalguy4535 Depends of the usage, enviroment and gross weight of the truck, but from my experience in gravel trucking in Finland (76 ton total weight) 2013 Scania R620 around 550k km to engine rebuild and 2014 Volvo FH16 650 around 500k km to engine rebuild. So it depends alot from usage and terrain.
@sollydeaguiar2221
@sollydeaguiar2221 2 ай бұрын
THEY'RE BOTH EXCELLENT... DEPENDS WHICH CLOWN IS BEHIND THE WHEEL!!! MY LATE BROTHER DROVE AN FH12-420 WITH SUPER HEAVY LOADS AND AT 400,000 KM HAD USED BARELY 2MM OF THE ORIGINAL 28MM BRAKE PADS OVERALL ON THE TRUCK TRACTOR!!! RIP DINO "BEANS" DE AGUIAR!!!
@thomtrucker1925
@thomtrucker1925 2 ай бұрын
Depending aspects. Volvo has stronger chassis and faster gearbox for many years. Scania v8 is more complicated engine, more bearings, injectors, pipes etc. For building sites are better different marks as military use them. Both are very good trucks and top strongest models cost top prices. Otherwise Chinese truck has 800hp and cost just over half price
@user-pp3pm1rw8u
@user-pp3pm1rw8u Ай бұрын
You guys are so lucky in America Volvo has a 425 hp D 13 engine with 2.14 rear ends that spit out a whopping 1650 foot pounds of torque
@gercobosch2870
@gercobosch2870 26 күн бұрын
It has a few reasons, a V8 in US trucks makes less sense since you have a nose and therefore length of the engine is less of an issue. Also weight, in Finland they a road legal truck and trailer may weigh up to 100 metric tons and that with mountains. Whilst the US is relatively flat Europe has 3 mountain ranges, with the Alps the pyrenese and technically the ural mountains in Russia but that is a bit of the split between Europe and Asia. And even then those extreme engines are a rare sight with only fanbases driving those. But most are still between that 400 to 550 HP mark.
@RandomerFellow
@RandomerFellow Ай бұрын
I think it's because we Swedes have always liked to compete, not least in technology. The Swedish “lagom” does not exist here.
@tomassjoberg6371
@tomassjoberg6371 Ай бұрын
Its like rap, East coast vs west coast. Södertälje vs Gothenburg
@honkiebikedude
@honkiebikedude 2 ай бұрын
Dates and engine sizes are not remotely accurate . The engine size is in the trucks name . An F10 = a 10 litre engine . A Scania 143 is a 14 litre V8 3 series . An FH12 is a 12 litre and nothing else , if it has the 16 litre engine it is an FH16 .
@honkiebikedude
@honkiebikedude 2 ай бұрын
The FH16 was released in the early to mid Nineties , it replaced the F16 .
@ontheroadagain4773
@ontheroadagain4773 Ай бұрын
@@honkiebikedude Need to piece out that info about Volvo a bit: The letters are all about the versions of the cab: F = Frambyggd (Cabover) N = Nos (Long hood) - not made anymore. H = High cab M = Medium cab L = Low cab Both the 7, 10 and the 12 litre trucks were available in all the versions H, M and L.. The smaller 4 and 6 litre didn't have a H cab and the 16 litre didn't have a L cab - if I got it right.
@fhurtig72
@fhurtig72 Ай бұрын
There really is no competition. Scania is vastly more popular among drivers and owner operators.
@daniel16.4
@daniel16.4 Ай бұрын
Now is Scania's turn. And i say they are the one who will achieve 800 hp first.
@jonathasfigaro4992
@jonathasfigaro4992 2 ай бұрын
Because men are competitive and we we always want the best , fastest and strongest things.
@gabriellaanonim6142
@gabriellaanonim6142 29 күн бұрын
Hi Everyone! I think both of the Truck Manufacturers are making great and reliable products. One group for Volvo One group for Scania. Thomas
@sollydeaguiar2221
@sollydeaguiar2221 2 ай бұрын
@Karen McClaren... not French OR Chinese! South 🇿🇦 African of Portuguese actually!!!
@Itmehokiledu
@Itmehokiledu 2 ай бұрын
Will it fit in a miata?
@IgrejaBrasilBem-aventurado8193
@IgrejaBrasilBem-aventurado8193 2 ай бұрын
Volvo Fh 16-780cv aero motor 06c em L diesel
@user-eu8bb1py4p
@user-eu8bb1py4p 2 ай бұрын
Volvo❤❤❤❤❤❤
@robgoff3549
@robgoff3549 27 күн бұрын
Volvo measure HP at the flywheel, while Scania measure HP at the diff.. Scania motor still stronger than Volvo
@ontheroadagain4773
@ontheroadagain4773 7 күн бұрын
If that was true, I think Scania already would have informed something about that instead of staying quiet and admit that Volvo is stronger? I'm sure that the same standards are set for how to measure engine power and torque on every truck.
@beyondnow1600
@beyondnow1600 2 ай бұрын
I like them both but volvo has always looked better to me. I also think other truck brands have copied the Volvo look.
@lanfenglxf
@lanfenglxf 2 ай бұрын
Scania doesn't
@beyondnow1600
@beyondnow1600 Ай бұрын
@lanfenglxf No your right Scania has its own unique look.
@irvinstruckinggroupse
@irvinstruckinggroupse 2 ай бұрын
Outnumbering a Scania V8! Volvo, the new king of the road!
@NisseHolmb
@NisseHolmb 21 күн бұрын
It's not a matter of strength. It's POWER. Interesting review, but many fact mistakes and confusions.
@jeffbartholomew3259
@jeffbartholomew3259 21 күн бұрын
I Always go for scania ❤
@kizitodettakatantha6236
@kizitodettakatantha6236 Ай бұрын
You don't know how the horse power is measured in these two different manufacturers I see Volvo measures the power in flywheel while Scania measures from the wheels, which means that all losses are already subtracted yet, volvo include losses If you include losses, you'll end up with 700hp
@audoinxr6372
@audoinxr6372 24 күн бұрын
No they dont
@liuyifei1989
@liuyifei1989 2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the most poweful engines we can get in North America is still the DD16 or ISX15 for literally the last 14 years.
@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia 2 ай бұрын
😂 true
@user-wm9pj2xj7z
@user-wm9pj2xj7z 2 ай бұрын
North American market is different a lot more highway travel where your not constantly stop and go so the higher horsepower number don’t really matter at those speeds, given though if you look aftermarket several cats and Cummins will be pushed past 700hp
@stark3855
@stark3855 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-wm9pj2xj7zyes with stratospheric fuel consumption and ridiculous torques. I have a friend to whom I sold my T800 with an ISX 600, he made some modifications raising it to 700hp, it has the same torque as I currently have in my Scania V8 620, but it consumes almost twice as much fuel as me and climbs slower
@V.Tolvanen
@V.Tolvanen Ай бұрын
saab scania on top🙌
@karendarrenmclaren
@karendarrenmclaren 2 ай бұрын
I'm still don't know. But... There can be only one 😝😉
@sollydeaguiar2221
@sollydeaguiar2221 2 ай бұрын
VOLVO IS THE BOSS... PERIOD!!!
@karendarrenmclaren
@karendarrenmclaren 2 ай бұрын
@@sollydeaguiar2221 French? Or Chinese one? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@indboy8040
@indboy8040 2 ай бұрын
One more fascinating thing is that they both compete even in bus industry❤
@icindric
@icindric 2 ай бұрын
How many times can you say robust in a video?
@VilleWilen
@VilleWilen 2 ай бұрын
Was there really any battling untill late 00´s?
@dreadzjackson5349
@dreadzjackson5349 2 ай бұрын
For real
@deezelfairy
@deezelfairy 2 ай бұрын
There was a lot of battling in the 1960/70's that's when the horsepower race really started in Europe. It's also what began the end of the British truck industry - our typical attitude of "we're the best, take us or leave us" and the market left them. Thing is, Britain was the best for a long time, but we sat on our hands whilst the competition over took us. In the mid 60's, your best offerings from a British truck manufacturer was a 180hp Gardner, a Leyland 680 (180-200hp) or some offered a 220 Cummins usually detuned to 205hp. When trucks like the Volvo F88 dropped with 270hp in 1965 then the first Scania V8's in 1969 with 350hp it's no wonder our hauliers switched. Numbers aren't that impressive today but going from 180hp to 270hp is a 50% increase in power - staggering at the time. Imagine one of the US truck manufacturers announcing tomorrow that they were releasing a 900hp otr truck - that's how significant that's how significant those power gains were in the 60/70's TV
@spv1093
@spv1093 Ай бұрын
@@deezelfairy During the 1950s I visited Scotland as a sailor. At one point we unloaded pulp to four-axle trucks such as AEC and Leyland. It was cold weather and the drivers sat in short cabins and wiped the windows with rags. It did not seem to find effective heat in the cabins. But there were in the Volvos and Scania Vabis that were later sold in the UK. As for Volvo, mostly F86 was sold in the UK. According to what was heard, it was the best profit to sell F86 instead of F88.
@deezelfairy
@deezelfairy Ай бұрын
@@spv1093 That was the thing, British hauliers were tight with their money which is why the F86 was more popular then the F88. It's also why you'd see our drivers wiping their windows with rags as back then a heater was an 'optional extra' on British trucks of that period. You had a real good boss if you got any options that were for driver comfort. With the Swedish manufacturers things like heaters were standard fitment. Sleeper cabs weren't a big thing in British trucks either - drivers were generally expected to sleep on top of cover over the engine hump in the cab 😂
@victoriamonique7223
@victoriamonique7223 2 ай бұрын
Volvo übertragen übertrifft mit der Innenausstattung in Scania von außen sind beide gleich geil❤❤❤
@noobtuber9625
@noobtuber9625 2 ай бұрын
Are they stronger than those classic KWs Petes?
@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia 2 ай бұрын
Yes 💪
@4_SJR
@4_SJR 2 ай бұрын
Very easy...
@GoBot05
@GoBot05 Ай бұрын
Scania👍
@zosimoromero3475
@zosimoromero3475 Ай бұрын
Mercedez, MAN, volvo,scania,DAF,iveco
@Drive-X-Gaming
@Drive-X-Gaming Ай бұрын
I love scania, Volvo is very impressive too but I still like a scania 😂
@riyaskamarudeen7560
@riyaskamarudeen7560 Ай бұрын
❤️🔥💪volvo💪🔥❤️ ❤️❤️❤️Drivers safety first that's volvo concept ❤️❤️❤️
@petrihakkinen2336
@petrihakkinen2336 27 күн бұрын
Finnish Sisu have 900hp
@fortune300
@fortune300 2 ай бұрын
That torque curve from the Volvo 780hp engine looks like a bad joke...
@ajidamarjati
@ajidamarjati Ай бұрын
I've been telling everyone this exact thing! I think Volvo not really serious to challenge the 770 Scania. Scania 770 have better and wider torque curve.
@fortune300
@fortune300 Ай бұрын
@@ajidamarjati A hill climb test with 40t would be interresting. I bet the Scania would be the winner.
@SOMTRUCK480
@SOMTRUCK480 2 ай бұрын
all European trucks the best two's are Scania and Volvo to others next is Mercedes-benz actros 3340
@henthust9784
@henthust9784 16 күн бұрын
Where are the German trucks? Any of them above 700hp? The last time I knew, MAN managed 680hp with their last V8 engine, before pursuing a straight six. It was temporarily the most powerful, as Volvo and Scania were still loitering around 600hp.
@bendermi
@bendermi 2 ай бұрын
End the battle and show us the torque curve let the facts speak. There has always been one king of the road and the winnee has the widest torque curve .
@martinpoulsen6564
@martinpoulsen6564 2 ай бұрын
You need to study your specs a lot more thoroughly before posting these videos. The Volvo F-series was released in 1977 with a 10 liter F10 and a 12liter F12. Top of the line at release was 320hp. 1979 saw the Globetrotter cab emerge and be a huge success for the F12. The F-series got a big brother in 1988 with the 16liter 465hp F16, and then rightly evolved into the FH series in 1993. Scania ran 11 and 14liter engines from their 110 straight 6 and 140 V8 up through the years, coming out with a smaller 8liter with the 2 series, the 82, upgraded to 9 liters with the 93. Along with the 4 series came also a 16liter V8 as the new king of the road, and as they say, the rest is history. The 2 brands have always battled. Not only on horsepower. On everything. Safety, fuel mileage, design, ease of use, smoothest transmission, heaviest hauler, highest payload, driver comfort... For a great many years they have been the benchmark trucks, although way outsold by Mercedes and also compeeting with great trucks made by dutch PACCAR owned Daf.
@cvetanx
@cvetanx 2 ай бұрын
Volvo for life! ❤
@sollydeaguiar2221
@sollydeaguiar2221 2 ай бұрын
Scania is brilliant.... but my blood is Volvo BLUE!!! HAVE AN R620 HIGHLINE AND A VOLVO FH16-610 GLOBETROTTER.... VOLVO WINS HANDS DOWN!!!
@KosovaliShqiptar34
@KosovaliShqiptar34 Ай бұрын
And why volvo not scania brother?
@sollydeaguiar2221
@sollydeaguiar2221 24 күн бұрын
Which do you OWN....I OWN BOTH top dogs with Top POWER!! Try pulling out of a slush quarry with 80 tonnes payload...and then pull away without any problems??? BTW the Scania is 620 hp and the Volvo only 610 hp!!!
@MCDeetlefs-jq1lb
@MCDeetlefs-jq1lb Ай бұрын
I don't get it . Scania 144g 530hp 2800nm . Volvo fh16 610hp 2800nm . Scania 164l 580hp 3000 nm 🤔
@JohannZ100
@JohannZ100 2 ай бұрын
In trucks horsepower from the engine is higher than at the wheels due to what transmission and axles are used
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 2 ай бұрын
This is not just in trucks but cars as well. Gearboxes, no matter how good add frictional losses into a system. Engine>Gearbox>Diff>Wheels can have a 5-10% loss in power easy.
@JohannZ100
@JohannZ100 2 ай бұрын
@@IIGrayfoxII Thats correct same goes for cars too.
@davidmarshall5603
@davidmarshall5603 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤Volvo .
@lewisndhlovu89
@lewisndhlovu89 Ай бұрын
You forgot Daf trucks
@tonkis4812
@tonkis4812 Ай бұрын
Hahahahahahahhahahah nice joke
@sibbolo9204
@sibbolo9204 2 ай бұрын
funny fact, if iveco wants, already have a 1000 hp marine V8 turbo diesel that just need conversion to shut them down. FPT rules.
@rude252
@rude252 Ай бұрын
Another fun fact, truck engines and marine engines are not the same. Marine engines are tuned for a lot more horse power and in many cases less reliable.
@sibbolo9204
@sibbolo9204 Ай бұрын
@@rude252 maybe the opposite, marine engine can't left you stranded in the open sea like a truck into an open road. Anyway, adapt it to euro 6 and so on, sure will have a drop, easily i bet could stay on 800 hp easily. Because it's a marine engine born from V8 of turbostar.
@ontheroadagain4773
@ontheroadagain4773 Ай бұрын
@@sibbolo9204 Scania's most powerful marine version of the 16 litre V8 has 1200hp.
@paulgodden8226
@paulgodden8226 Ай бұрын
Scania take their hp rating from the axle. Volvo from the flywheel.. If Scania took their hp from the flywheel the 770 is actually 840hp. End of story
@patodonovan274
@patodonovan274 Ай бұрын
Bullshit ,volvo has a bigger engine & more torque what ever scania will Do Volvo will follow both makes are good
@audoinxr6372
@audoinxr6372 24 күн бұрын
No they dont
@user-sc2ii2no7z
@user-sc2ii2no7z Ай бұрын
Very nice but, some of the details are not accurate. Volvo had a 16-liter V8 at the 90’s with 520HP., (this is just one detail that is not mentioned at the clip and there are more )
@ontheroadagain4773
@ontheroadagain4773 Ай бұрын
No. The 16 litre engine Volvo introduced in 1987 was an inline 6 with 470hp at first. The only V8 Volvo has mounted in a truck was a 3.6 litre petrol engine, B36, with 120hp, made between 1956 and 1966
@hakansvensson8314
@hakansvensson8314 Ай бұрын
There are a lot of errors in this video, would make a quite a list.
@magnusgreve6036
@magnusgreve6036 2 ай бұрын
One relevant detail is that Volvo measures HP at the crank but Scania measures at the diff. Scania 770hp makes 800+ at the crank
@dbclass4075
@dbclass4075 2 ай бұрын
But, why Scania uses the term "gross power" in their DC1658A specs, instead of "net power"?
@muhammadhanifkurnaen6689
@muhammadhanifkurnaen6689 2 ай бұрын
It still to be debated until someone dynobench both of trucks on a same dyno engine
@ItzChaza
@ItzChaza 2 ай бұрын
thats bullsh*t, both scania and volvo measure hp at crank, this is easily known by just googling scania dc16 and it shows you a pdf with the engine specs showing the torque curves ect and guess what, that measured 770 is at the crank
@dbclass4075
@dbclass4075 2 ай бұрын
@@ItzChaza Plus that specs do not include any load. Not even a truck.
@sollydeaguiar2221
@sollydeaguiar2221 2 ай бұрын
Prove that... my friend!! COMPLETELY INCORRECT!!!
@S.Yucel1962
@S.Yucel1962 2 ай бұрын
Scania is the undisputed leader at all times and under all conditions.
@Team_Reaper.
@Team_Reaper. 2 ай бұрын
😂
@patodonovan274
@patodonovan274 Ай бұрын
That's your opinion, volvo just as good
@S.Yucel1962
@S.Yucel1962 Ай бұрын
@@patodonovan274 I say this as someone who mostly drives a Volvo.
@piratecraft2528
@piratecraft2528 2 ай бұрын
Currently in India, The powerful truck is Volvo 540 fmx cab(if I I not wrong). Volvo didn't released its fh series engines. But,scania launched uts super engine this year in March and max hp is 560hp. But,scania is giving 560hp oy in tippers.
@es111youtuber6
@es111youtuber6 2 ай бұрын
you r wrong
@MALITLHAREMOPHETE
@MALITLHAREMOPHETE 2 ай бұрын
Volvo FH16😮
@AllanKendall-ek5ow
@AllanKendall-ek5ow 2 ай бұрын
I.worry.future Of.mack.trucks....
@francescorestivo1320
@francescorestivo1320 28 күн бұрын
The real answer is because they both shat their pants when Iveco thrown on the marked the ungodly Turbostar V8
@kmg501
@kmg501 2 ай бұрын
lol @ 00:44
@JohntimKamadi
@JohntimKamadi Ай бұрын
How about China's or India's trucks
@luaanomizinga
@luaanomizinga 2 ай бұрын
I prefer Volvo parts are easily accessed in the Southern Africa
@joshuavanwilligen1666
@joshuavanwilligen1666 Ай бұрын
The 770 from scania is on the rear axel and de 780 form Volvo is at the crank so if you count the drivetrain loss by the scania has actually 850 bhp at the crank
@DarkestSheepZ
@DarkestSheepZ Ай бұрын
Sweden showing all the world how to make proper trucks 😂😂😂 Volvo is just pure power no matter what is the beast but that v8 rumble is 😍😍😍👌
@yasharjavdani4173
@yasharjavdani4173 Ай бұрын
Scania S770 just & only
@jonhroarulstad5775
@jonhroarulstad5775 2 ай бұрын
High salary cost is the reason.
@dobese7086
@dobese7086 Ай бұрын
The info on this is not quite accurate.
@MichaelTucker
@MichaelTucker Ай бұрын
The difference is that Volvo measure horsepower at the flywheel, while Scania measures horsepower at the rear wheels.
@audoinxr6372
@audoinxr6372 24 күн бұрын
No they dont
@ontheroadagain4773
@ontheroadagain4773 7 күн бұрын
If that was the fact, I think Scania already would have informed something about that instead of staying quiet and admit that Volvo is stronger. I'm sure that some standards are set for how to measure engine power and torque on every truck.
@rayweh-bfa4966
@rayweh-bfa4966 2 ай бұрын
Had a Volvo 2 million k had a v8 scania cost a fortune in repairs will send you broke in Australia conditions
@BOPENKK
@BOPENKK 2 ай бұрын
Saya Indonesian pilih Volvo
@GaryLloyd-li7dx
@GaryLloyd-li7dx Ай бұрын
Why is it still called fh16 when it a 17 litre engine it should be fh17?
@TruckTropia
@TruckTropia Ай бұрын
The engine is called d17 👍
@qe2836
@qe2836 Ай бұрын
@@TruckTropia Volvo's model number usually refers to the size of the engine so it's logical that this should be called a FH17. But maybe there's something else with the model and FH17 will come later.👍
@favour9189
@favour9189 19 күн бұрын
Shackman is the new king
@user-lj8fh3rk3x
@user-lj8fh3rk3x 2 ай бұрын
Blah blah blah scania v8 is the King of the road 🤠
@jammiedodger7040
@jammiedodger7040 Ай бұрын
Volvo also bought out Leyland Bus and Lorry.
@jimgemmell2831
@jimgemmell2831 Ай бұрын
The Leyland Truck Division was purchased by DAF, Volvo only acquired Leyland Bus.
@fredkaondera
@fredkaondera Ай бұрын
You did the same video many times
@uncipaws7643
@uncipaws7643 2 ай бұрын
Volvo battery electric trucks are in use here in Austria
@user-sf6if6op9g
@user-sf6if6op9g Ай бұрын
Volvo for live!!!!!!!
@myisseartan1415
@myisseartan1415 Ай бұрын
Volvo FH all the way
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