yup! really good point. keep safe :}

His protestors are basically the virus in human form.

@Bruce strkland and he and everyone around him are tested regularly! Hypocrisy!

In other words: cannon fodder.

Yup, but his deep rooted supporters will be all gung-ho for it.

Citizens are just numbers to him.

I totally agree with you on this... i made a music video called 'Putins Toy'... i think you would appreciate. Its on my channel. From the guy who ducked out of Vietnam [not a fan]. This is a satirical punk rock anti Trump song featuring some of Winnipeg's top musicians and female vocalists. I wrote it and do the lead vocals. I hope you find it to be a humorous diversion to break up your day. Feel free to leave a comment Justin Y, I value your opinion.

And he can do with them whatever he wants. He's the commander-in-chief, right?

You're right. But, hopefully, the Pro-Democratic SuperPACs will continuously pound the airwaves with that "I don't take responsibility at all" video this Fall. Maybe some of those who voted for him last time will finally see the light...

Darrin Rychlak “I know nothing.” Only time he spoke truth.

He has continually repeated that he doesn't take any responsibility for any of the things he fine and been questioned about. Last night, for some sanity, I watched a bunch of old episodes from October on. He continually denied that he should be responsible for anything.

He refuses to take responsibility for anything AND he believes he has the power to do anything he wants (he said he has "complete authority" or something like that). Sigh!!

James Simone - Stop worrying about the selfish fools who voted for Trump in 2016. Focus on the people who did not vote at all. They are the real reason we are stuck with this grifter in the White House. Every vote mattered in 2016, and even more so in 2020. Even though the machine votes are tainted, Obama outran the hackers in 2008 and 2012, and despite all the disinformation and machine vote meddling, Hillary almost did the same in 2016. But 47% of the registered voters simply did not vote. Some were deliberately blocked, but not most of them. Republicans block efforts to increase voter turnout because they know that they are actually the minority Party. Even in the Senate, the Democratic Senators represent more people than the Republican Senators. It is only the 2 Senators per state rule that keeps the Republicans in the majority in the Senate. Vote out the Republicans (1/3 of the Senators are up for re-election in 2020) and that will get rid of the Trump/Putin control in the Senate.

We also got free health care in the military along with food and clothing to a point. We all had our very own gas masks and the rest of the protective clothing to match right down to ridiculous booties to cover our boots.

@@treefittyfoh1562 gimme ALL the equipment of soldiers, free healthcare, a food and clothing allowance, and hazard pay, heck, I'll work at a grocery store deli/butchers.

@@treefittyfoh1562 our healthcare is not free. Idk when was the last time you reviewed your LES, but we definitely pay. On top of everything that you listed we still pay taxes. So no, nothing is free. Thanks.

@@ryanpiercy3390 enlist 🦅

@@olgap3730 hell no, I will not be involved in fighting a war we have no business in. I want the stuff for when war comes to us. The rest is just compensation for having to work a crappy job with a full bio-hazard suit on.

Problem is that Seth Meyer understands Trump with far more depth than the corporate news media. What a clusterfuck of a country we have when the only people who see below the surface are the comedians. The corporate powers don't need to reign in Meyers, Colbert, Bee and Noah because none of them have a big enough audience to effect elections. The illusion of free speech without risk to the power structure.

A lot of NYC folks know that Trump is a scammer

Even Bloomberg knows he's a scammer. I remember in 2016 Bloomberg telling people to not vote Trump because he's a conman

Trumpy hasn’t forgotten the Correspondents dinner where Seth roasted him. He was rage tweeting about it the other day.

He’s not alone !

That was probably a bit of passive resistance. Ironic and apropos.

@Ginette Levesque Why are you stupid?

@Ginette Levesque That's nice dear... now be a nice cultist lunatic and go back to eating your jello and yelling at the sky in your padded room.

AMEN!

@Ginette Levesque ZZZZZZZZZZ

He isn't capable of empathy. Narcissists see people as objects.

people were, Seth was, until the wasps invaded.

I saw it too.

You’re new here, aren’t you?

Yes!!!! That’s what I am here for!!!

Collin Rogers He’s catholic but I still don’t get it.

Me too. 😎🇨🇦

just what i'm thinking

J C 🤣🤣🤣

If you're lucky enough to have a home or a safe place to stay. Many people don't. Many are on the brink of losing their homes and have NO money for food or bills. I hate Trump and no way am I ever defending that narcissistic ass. But I have empathy and sympathy for those millions without jobs and still fighting to get unemployment, and at their wit's end.

@@goldleaf3333 These are good points. And it is gov't failure. A $2000/month check would have been at everyone's door 2 months ago except Mitch McConnell has been actively blocking it for months. While handing TRILLIONS $$$ to mega-multi-national corporations who didn't need it.(cash on hand).

Mike Gmez - Sir, you have won the internet. Best. Comment.

I’m not a puppet. I’m a real president!

Yesss!

"You are warriors. And by that I mean I am forcing you to fight against a disease that only I and my close supporters get tested for. Your grandmother needs to fight a disease, suffer in the hospital, and die with debt from the healthcare system I refuse to fix, and this is all for the sake of me getting more money. I am president to get advertisement for my business." -Trump, basically

Mike Gmez that was my first thought with this too 😂😂😂

Exactly

and the people losing their homes and businesses due to lockdown?? want the whole country to go under? BTW the virus will still be there when you do come out - good luck waiting for a vaccine

@@catherinetaylor2333 Wow look what Trumps has done to you. Sad

@@spearfysh no - I'm in the UK. I've been o.k. under lockdown. I'm retired, live next to a nature reserve to exercise in, etc. Whom I do feel for, though, is a small business owner I know who is on the brink, and all those, like airline employees who are being laid off, and those struggling to pay their mortgages etc. Whatever a Gov decides there are always going to be armchair experts who know better.. We are having restrictions eased next week, and I am glad our PM has made this decision. I am sure there will be plenty to blame any deaths on him - he is dammed if he does and dammed if he does not.

@@catherinetaylor2333 So your retired and largely unaffected by the lock down other than a greater chance of a medical issue not ending your life prematurely or one of those closest to you. But hey, Catherine needs a coffee. So will place a ranking system on the value of someones life.....well done you.

@ Reality tops cartoon.

You misquoted. That is very much the Republican tagline for the pandemic. Shrek clearly stole it.

lol

I do not take responsability at all

Third time I’ve seen this comment and I am so happy everyone was thinking of this 😂😂😂 10/10 I still have a little hope for the human race

I hope he also included "Down with the Sickness" and "Don't Fear the Reaper".

Gothkat Goddess REM would have worked too. But that person has some balls

@Chris Paschal Don't lie, Putin and trump are good pals.

thexalon “Stairway to Heaven” and “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door” too! Should maybe have played “He’s an A**hole!” by Dennis Leary! That would have been good as well.

Gothkat Goddess if I could have I’d have pushed the thumbs up 👍🏼 like a million times!!! You rock!

Alison Wade That actually fits perfectly

🤣🤣🤣

I love it when people just copy the top comment 👌 Classy!

Dick Swingston I love it when people don’t consider the fact that two people may think the same thing, classy 👌

I saw a comment like this at the top, so glad we have so many cultured people in this comment section. 😌 (Not being sarcastic btw, I’m serious)

Its KZfaq, man. Swear if ya want

Tucker Farlson.

I was thinking the same quote! Honestly, if you left out that it was Lord Farquaad that said it, would anyone be able to tell the difference between it and something Trump actually said?

Haha! Omg I thought this was something Trump said. Sadly you got me good.

THAT'S WHERE THAT'S FROM!

And of course, Lord Farquaad would make a better president

@@sledgetammer4576 or donkey 😅

This.

SOlson2375 nailed it!

Zap brannigan would make a better president

Captain Zapp Brannigan

@@221BSam Neat! (Camera clicks)

Now pay them more, you bastards!!!! They can't live like they are at the moment

Yes...had to be on purpose!

What does it matter to ya? When you you got a job to do, ya got to do it well.. You got to give the other fella hell!!!

Syclone0044 huh???

@@couchpotato6270 lyrics of the song

I want "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised".

Wow it's almost like our State governments are incompetent. It's not the Federal government's job to baby our States and their shitty governors.

He doesnt mean Warriors, he means soldiers. People to send out to solve you Problems and die for you who cant refuse the order without Punishment

But are you asking all the essential workers to risk their lives for you? This seems to have gotten totally twisted around. From the start they said the goal of quarantine was to flatten curve so medical respirators and beds do not get over run. We accomplished that goal. Now you are saying the goal has changed and we stay quarantined until when?

@@ared18t really? The president isn't helping. Barely lifting a finger to make sure people have what they need to stay healthy and hospitals have enough to make sure that people live. It is the presidents fault because he's the worst leader I have since in the middle of a pandemic.

ared18t why do I pay federal taxes if they don’t do anything for the states I live in

‘I tried. Lord knows, I tried.’ -God

@@lumfan2 to quote frieza from the abridged dbz series. "nice try jackass, next time bring your A game"

Martin Schmidt K. You win.

well all i can say is #TangerineToddler has only boosted my Faith. I have finally had to acknowledge TEFLON DON sold his soul, and those Sharpies are really filled with the blood of his black heart.

@@noahsales7257 That was not realistically in question for years now, the question is did he sell it to a demon, a foreign government, corporations, or some mix of the three. Though I don't really know about the sharpies, they can't have all his blood unless supernatural forces are involved, otherwise he'd die from blood loss.

Well said big spoon, well said.

I thought, to Putin...?

american exceptionalism at its finest. why would you think america is the leader of the WORLD? especially now. a random governor is not the leader of the world...

Or send them to Obama.

@@OutlawSoul Wow. I never would have guessed someone would take offense to his joke for that reason. "His" leader, doesn't mean "the world's" leader. The joke is at the expense of Trump, whose de-prioritization as a potential leader is justified. Under the joke's premise, the prioritization of entire countries is completely arbitrary based on who the aliens ask.

Jasper Birdcycle It's a flu, and people die, nothing new except for closing down the world.

Doug Lee actually moron, it’s not a flu, it’s a NOVEL Coronavirus that is 10 times more deadly than the seasonal flu. You’re an idiot, just like President Assclown.

@Reischa Parker - Both flu and coronavirus are caused by viruses. The influenza viruses are called "Orthomyxoviridae" while the "coronavirus" describes an entire family (?) of viruses which variously cause everything from the common cold to MERS and SARS. I suppose it's more accurate to refer to this current pandemic as Covid-19 instead of the generic "coronavirus".

@@douglee5599 , Have you considered that fact other diseases have not simply vanished during this period? It is hundreds of thousands of deaths, possibly millions, on top of the already high number caused by disease. Maybe this will teach people how to deal with other diseases too, now the public is once more reminded that pandemic exist. Funds might flow better to research facilities, more people might be encouraged to go into biology and some of these measures will continue after Corvid-19 is defeated. At the very least, if you keep washing your hands and ensuring you are not licking telephone poles... maybe those other disease won't kill you either, Doug.

@@WWZenaDo , Correct, we really should be using the proper name and not the group name. Too many people don't seem to understand that classification exists, let alone how it works. Added: Quick review showed me that several classification systems exist, making it more important to refer by direct name! Yay Virus, you break every biological system we have by being down right weird....

He'd throw his invisible accordion at you if he heard that talk!!

And they were backhanded condolences at that.

Under what timeframe?

EXACTLY. He's calling the workers "heroes ", wanting them to not only identify with the oppressors, but to die for them! F that Sh!

And yet, some of them will vote for him.

And what's sad is "patriots" fall for that hero sh!t every time. It makes them feel manly or important. Like carrying guns and waving flags. A lot of Americans live for that crap all the while the rich and well connected sit back and laugh.

Welcome to the annual Hunger Games... 😢

It might sound jaded or mean but let his followers go out there and get thier haircut, eat all they can eat at crowded buffets elbow to elbow without masks on. If they want to die let them.

He already has the hair and the crazy ideas

If he causes a second peak of deaths maybe some of his dumbass supporters might finally question his decisions. Then again we have tested the limits of their gullibility before and the results are not promising..

What ethnicity is orange?

@@alliedatheistalliance6776 they will absolutely stick by the fat orange liar in the WH no matter what. Even if it kills them they will die gladly for their orange leader.

@@danielstewart7163 orange.

Shereda Cook yes

Shereda Cook Hey his base are already out there in the streets. Commander Bone spur has said don't listen to the experts and his Warriors hit the bricks with signs, flags and MAGA hats. AND carrying guns of all things, what are they going to do, shoot the damn virus?

How very Darwin of you. Too bad they don't believe in him either.

DJRY who cares about whether they believe in him or not? Miss the point much? 🤦🏽‍♀️

A_Light N Da_Dark that’s good to know. Just another reason for me to stay in the house. I just wonder how many test positive for the virus after the rallies 🤔

Lisa A and one of those is broken

Lisa A: Winning? I thought it was playing golf & whining, but maybe it was getting drunk on wine-like praise & whining?

so glad you brought that up - so, so true. it's totally crappy. What do we want? Help! When do we want it? like - Now would be good. keep safe :}

My brother had a book he would hold with pride A little red cover with a broken spine In the back he hand wrote a quote inside *When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die*

YUP , Throw the Population Under his bus to cushion his tires !

@@FengshenNL great now I've gotta go find that song. Thanks for the reminder!

@@laurensegars4504 you're most welcome! (ftr, it's Linkin Park - Hands Held High)

En Lighten This is an excellent idea! Maybe Pence should go too? 👍

You can be both, you know.

He can't see the difference. To him, everything is about him and everyone else is not even real. He, and people like him, see everyone else as what Ted Bundy called "meat puppets", imitating life but devoid of actual sentience like they have.

shields , scapegoats , enablers , co-conspirators also

Warriors is a much better way of putting it than sacrificial lambs

@@nicolec7767 It sounds a hell of a lot better in the propaganda.

RJLbwb, someone probably told him to say that.

@A Gay Has No Name This better be satirical.

@@edgeof60 what if I told you you will be risking your life for Stormy Daniel's ass, would you?

I wished that draft dodgers didn't qualify to run for POTUS. Wouldn't that have been awesome..?

It’s more important than food it’s more important than water. Capitalism is more important than booty.

I came lookin for booty a mans butt

135,000,000 people die every year in auto accidents.. 650,000 die every year from flu..250,000 die in 7 months from corona... 300,000 PEOPLE A DAY, the number imf predicts will STARVE TO DEATH EVERY DAY THIS SUMMER AS A RESULT OF YOUR STUPID COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVE LOCKDOWN which is not going to prevent one single case of covid

@@tigerlily5791 ur a dummy

Capitalism doesn't care about people just profit

Your comment should have been the headline.

tRUMP is SO pathetic!!!🤦😨🙉

This is a Shrek quote lol

Elderic: That's truly brilliant. Well said.

@@paigewetz1254 But worthy of Dr. Strangelove.

Jonathan Kinney I’ve never heard an adult whine so much about getting credit for anything in my life. Trump will go down in history as the worst malignant narcissist the world has ever seen, believe me. Seriously, though. They’re gonna be studying him for decades.

@@StLProgressive AND the people supporting him.

And obama did what?

Better than a creep cough Joe Biden cough

AND corruption. Remember Trump is having Kushner scheming up ways to make money off of this pandemic while Americans suffer.

Wonder how much abuse, murder and misery the American people can absorb from the orange monster and his gang of mutant sociopaths before reaching the threshold of rebellion? Not holding my breath. MAGA (masochistic and getting a$$f*cked)

Phil Wilson the people are anesthetized, they’d rather have this orange clown in charge, as long as he’s white and not a woman.

It's the sequels (2 & 3)

Love it

Sequels, not copies :D

I heard that song at the supermarket a couple of weeks ago, lol.

he's drafting us, since the only thing he cares about is the economy and he's too scared to get himself a war.

I noticed he didn't go visit any of the hospitals.

@Kim Jong Fun. You nailed it!

Hold the phone...

Yeah, good 1 😆👍.

Sue Free I thought of that when the Lt. governor of Texas said go out and die for your grandchildren

Who would have thought, we would found a real life one and put it in charge.........where’s Dragon when you need her?

@@kazetoame Looking after her dragon whelps most likely 8).

Trump farting warrior

I blame not just babi boomers but most white people for all of it. It coulda been small, it coulda been intimate, it coulda been a societi where everione matters.. BUT ITS NOT. Most people got selfish.

Sadly for him other's deaths don't matter. You don't matter, and you don't matter, and you don't matter. Jesus H. Christ, as my loving Dad used to say.

Perhaps he is a whale?

His rage has lasted for 70+ years tho

Some mammals have much longer gestation terms. Im not saying he's not human, but...

Fella is having a whale of a time out there!

@Olafolafsen78 " he's standing overbalanced on his toes and he falls down on his mushy face." I would inject, "falls forward on his size 4 baby toes. Take heart, Olafolafsen78, forward leaning artists, writers, professors and common folk with better than IQ's of 110 are coming forth with pointed prose and piques of note. Notice how few and devoid his supporters are of late?

He is the true WARRIOR!

We should start a playlist

​@@KuueenKumihighway to hell. stairway to heaven. O' Death, voice of the soul

@wildhoney thank you!

Go golf and ignore the virus.

Asked his doctors to try and test disinfectant injections into humans

And he calls this a success.

But...but....pointing that out is SOOOO unfair *sob*

Yes. And any sort of luck he will shake a hand with covid 19.

.@@colinkepple7555 It's flabbergasting how to observe whether in spite of his diet, his immune-system is miraculously unexceptional or.. ...Simply he's the one of the least deserving, if not the only: Lucky-bastards! All the other LBs just.. Well, at least the right-thinking ones: Must be feeling not ‘L' but just simple Bastards.

Trump is so stupid he did even understand the irony of the song.

The sick part is all or some of these incidents seem to be staged by Trumps campaign staff, certain artists music sometimes pops up at press events or political rallies simply with the idea to win over a demographic who associates with the artists music in one form or the other. This might sound crazy, keep in mind we already know that Trump's mind "works" in sick twisted ways. Most artists are far from happy when this occurs, neither is Guns N Roses, especially Axl Rose hates Trump. Do some research ..., here are some quotes from Axl : Just so ya know... GNR like a lot of artists opposed to the unauthorized use of their music at political events has formally requested r music not b used at Trump rallies or Trump associated events. - Axl Rose (@axlrose) Unfortunately the Trump campaign is using loopholes in the various venues’ blanket performance licenses which were not intended for such craven political purposes, without the songwriters’ consent. Can u say “shitbags?!” - Axl Rose (@axlrose) We have an individual in the WH that will say n’ do anything w/no regard for truth, ethics, morals or empathy of any kind, who says what’s real is fake n’ what’s fake is real. - Axl Rose (@axlrose)

@andrew miller I've not heard of trump touring that plant & in reality, there's NO WAY he's going to get that close to a virus outbreak! Confusion in which factory he was at I'm guessing

Oh, no. It's definitely obvious. Obvious, that is, unless you're drinking the kool-aid.

It’s not just you. I hope that there are enough people who can see this irony who are also willing to vote for Biden. We may have to hold our noses to do it, but he’s better than DJT for the job of president.

That should be hashtagging on twitter...Hey Donald! My heels hurt! I can't go to war for the stockmarket....Hey Trump! my arthritis is flaring. I'll have to sit this war out. Dear Mr. President, Women aren't required to register for selective service, i'm gonna sit this war out...they should be addressed to trump w/ the hash tag, YOU FAKED BONE SPURS,

Nah, many before you said/ observed same, people that were earlier than you.

I have bone spurs. My doctor gave me a note. I don't have to risk dying of a pandemic.

I hold quite the same view and have told a fair few people it should end with "...and I'm too lazy to do anything about it".

The phrase has its place to be sure, but this sure as hell isn't one of them.

In his case it's not defeatist because he lies to himself & everyone within listening range. When he says the phrase it's far more sinister. It comes from a place of indifference.

. . . whatever . . .

Well, it does help when you are totally out of options. But not a response for apathy.

Australia's getting even less mentions on the virus from Seth, even though Australia & America are effectively identical in starting points for the virus control (which I guess is why they're avoiding it). I was really glad to hear him mention you guys the other day though & you need FAR more mentions everywhere! How many days now with not a single case of unknown origin? Does the world not grasp what an incredible achievement that is?

I will mention once were warriors, a great movie!

Yea just like Marie antoinette said when told her subjects were starving to death because they had no bread. She said " Then let them eat cake" she was not being nasty, just clueless, because if she was out of bread, she would eat cake....Now we have yet another monarch (yes he is no more a president the Marie was) that is 100% clueless! "Let the peasants be warriors!"

@@paulesterline5714. Marie Antoinette never said "let them eat cake". Recent discoveries have proven that her enemies spread that lie about her to get the people to rise up against her.

Republicans: "If you want a vaccine make your own."

Next time your News station shows you the National Map of the National Coronavirus spread try to take notice that ALL of the very worst case States are ALL Democrat run & controlled States that dropped the ball with their governors failure to be up to speed on medical emergency preparedness & response to any kind of pandemic or emergency! Wake up and realize that when Trump took early action the Democrats called him xenaphobic racist & over reacting when he called to STOP all incoming flights from China. Sorry that he had to allow all American Citizens back home from Europe & China.

Lower creature: Income of less than $250.000 per annum per adult capita in the household. Or creatures stupid enough to vote Republican if they make less.

If less than 2% of the zombies were carnivorous.. a more accurate way to look at it.

I bet thats the next stage of mutation.

@@ILoveGrilledCheese lol woooosh.

😂😂😂...😁😀😑😐...😢😢😢...😥😥😥

@@godblesshamas yet there are more images of Trump and Epstein than there is with Bill.

The American people are warriors, but sadly they are being led by a five-time draft dodger.

Great idea!!! They want that anyway, so let them go out on their own and do their thing. They are hell bent pushing us open so if they can just stay to themselves, they can knock themselves out. If we had widespread testing and slowed numbers we could slowly and carefully reopen like Korea, but with our idiotic President and lack of coherent leadership, we gave over 73K dead. What is it going to take for people to get it.

You fool - It’s MAGAA - again again you see . 🤪

Glenn Beck, Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell are all brave generals leading the fight from safely at home in their mansions.

Most of them have bone spurs

@Stephen Ferree you nailed it! 👍 👏 😀

@Stephen Ferree So funny. But sad cause its true. Very detailed but u forgot its some special lights (maybe tanning bed light) to put out fires. Or special drink, bleach maybe?

@hiddenhandmusic Sad and weak retort. Lol.

LOL! Too true.

@Stephen Ferree I like it, I saw a Titanic version of this with iceberg/lifeboats instead of fires/extinguishers

He was chicken too. 😜

Obama would've been completely destroyed by Faux News

I am expecting some Trumptard to start commenting any minute about the myth the right wing has created about Obama and H1N1. According to them, Obama just sat around for months while 200,000 people died of H1N1. The truth is way different. Obama declared a National Health Emergency a day before WHO did. He immediately instructed the CDC to get going with a vaccine. 200,000 haven’t died of H1N1, as of March 30, 2020, only 12, 800+ have died of H1N1, and the virus vaccine is updated every year and included in with others in the yearly seasonal flu shot. There were initial deaths before the vaccine, but it was a handful of people, the majority of deaths that have occurred since the vaccine are people who haven’t been vaccinated every year and are vulnerable. People have died of H1N1 during Trump’s 3 years... a large amount of them last year. Just thought I would head off the right wing alternative fact/conspiracy theory idiots this time.

Also makes it easier for him to wash away the numbers. It isn't 80k civilians killed tragically, it was 80k warriors dying on the front line for our stock market.

Hi from Oz :) We're definitely in the right zone of the world right now & congrats on your latest progress with the virus! Looking AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

Lilac Lizard it is looking good here! We’re still in pretty strict conditions too. About the same as US strictest conditions! May be a few weeks before we move down to level 2 and a bit more freedom, but most people are ok with that. Good luck in Oz, it’s looking promising there too!

@@jaybee4118 I believe your restrictions basically match ours right now, although ours have some variations from state to state, ranging from Victoria's still heavy handed approach eg no social visits to mothers homes for mothers day, to Qld's 10 people picnics in parks permitted, but the fundamentals here are the same as for you I believe, at least right now, may change in a few hours, we're expecting a review announcement today :) Currently both at level 3 though, which our governments have tried to keep as uniform as possible & yeh needs a few weeks at level 3 before reducing, you've worked SO hard to get where you are, would be horrible to lose it all after all that work! Need to confirm things are stable before dropping another level :) It does seem likely you were on a sharper rise than we were on when we both went into restrictions, not totally clear, but seems likely & is what some experts are saying, so had you not done that, you could have possibly been in a mess, hard to know, you've got an awesome result out of it now though, to have all cases with identifiable sources! As long as that holds in level 3 for at least 2-3 weeks, that puts you at close to clear of the virus completely! Still needs monitoring after that of course, but dam it will be a good result if you can get there in such a short space of time :) Given we only intended to flatten the curve, yeh we're doing really really well to :) really happy with it, but we are still dealing with random cases popping up, not a lot of them, but enough to still need to be REALLY watching this thing for now if we're going to get to where you are. I'm just SO happy to be in a zone of the world where we have competent management that's actually caring about our lives! So sad watching so many other countries do such silly things

Lilac Lizard I think NZ’s idea was to aim for eradication from the start and we’ll hopefully achieve it. Though, it seems almost inevitable now that it’ll end up in the yearly rotation of illnesses in US and Europe at least, so I can’t see our borders opening for most, if any countries until we have a vaccine. Which is sad because I was supposed to visit my mum in the UK this year or next. I’ve not seen her since moving here and my brother died 3 years ago, so she only has me :( it’s tough.

Whoa-hoah-ha-ha-ha...!

They should eventually splice all the bits together.

I guess the book was with child, like Seth thought

Thornbirds 2 - The Birdening

There's probably more thought behind those self-stacking books than Drumpf's understanding of the Corona 'flu'.

No, it would still be bad, but it would be a coherent response with a much lower death toll at the end of it. Watch how it turns out for Germany, for example.

Obama left a pandemic playbook for trump and he failed to use it.

Obama: Donald, where’s that emergency situation manual I left for you in office? Trump: ... manual? What manual?

I think H1N1 (swine flu) was a good indicator as to how Obama would have fared today. Obama had only been President for a few months when he declared H1N1 a public health emergency. In the first three months of H1N1 (starting from detection of the first case), there were only 37,246 cases and 211 deaths in America. In roughly the same span of time, COVID-19 had 654,425 cases and 32,900 deaths. When all was said and done, H1N1 claimed nearly 12,500 lives over the course of a year, whereas COVID-19 has surpassed 70,000 in roughly FOUR MONTHS, and will likely reach six figures before we even get a whiff of a vaccine. In short, the newly minted President of 2009 (who was also tackling the aftermath of the Great Recession at the time) managed to do FAR better job than our current President, who was three years into the job. Beyond that, Obama took the experience from H1N1 (and later Ebola) and created a Pandemic Response Team specifically to address issues like COVID-19. However, Trump shat all over that experience and restructured said team into a scattershot operation that has proven incapable of mustering a coherent response (or, more likely, incapable of breaking through Trump's filter of idiocy). But most importantly, Obama (and possibly ANY other sane president) treated the H1N1 pandemic as a human health crisis, where safeguarding American lives was the main priority. Trump, however, has consistently treated COVID-19 as a personal *political* crisis, and made saving the economy (and thus, his election hopes) his only priority. Honestly, almost any other qualified human with basic empathy would have done better than Trump, but Obama gets extra points for having a lot of experience, a willingness to learn, and a solid track record.

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Hah! Good one! LOL

So then wage slaves

Yes. They are literally FORCING them.

as if he could even single-task properly

He is not fit to e president !!

Yeah, he had a lot going on. Golfing, stuffing far right judges into lifelong appointments, golfing, dismantling (or trying to) healthcare for ordinary Americans, golfing, destroying environmental protections, more golfing, denying climate science, golfing, attempting to coerce foreign leaders into supporting his political agenda, golfing, etc. He was VERY busy.