Hey, loved the video, and agreed with a lot of the rankings! Just wanna say, Riva uses they/them pronouns, not she/her!

lou is a wizard irl because despite being aware that he is a relatively young man, as soon as he dons the kingston voice I become convinced he is a 50-60 something year old nurse who’s going to sternly yet gently chastise me for not being active enough

Overall a very solid list but Bruce Kugrich deserves an S tier. The amount of effort Murph puts into making us feel for a garbage rat ex conman is incredible and his interactions with Wally and David are the highlight of UC S1

Fantasy high sophomore year cemented riz in S tier for me. The entire plot line with his dad (which also led to him having the most kalina time) made me love his character. He also had some of my favorite jokes during the night where he tries snuff and the shrimp party

I get where you're coming from but "It's Gorgug, keep going" alone has such an emotional punch in the moment that I feel like it should bump him up a tier just for that

Sundry Sidney is one of my favorite Emily characters. She’s so delightfully unhinged and had so much battle prowess.

I'm sorry but we watched different shows if you think rizz is lawful, I love whenever lou goes "I think about rizz executing coach daybreak every single night"

The idea that you would put Kug in B is a disgrace. Not only is he S teir, he is easily Murphs best character (saying something), and arguably the best character in Unsleeping City/D20 as a whole. Every line is hilarious, every bit is tight, he contributes so much to the story and heart of UC. I legit think you got Gerard and Kug mixed up.

I personally think Pinocchio was the best part about Neverafter. Had all the funniest moments. Most of the KZfaq clips from the D20 shorts channel feature Pinocchio, lol because he’s amazing

A fun list for sure. Kingston and Saccharina are definitely in my S tier as well. I think it would be an interesting list to see the villains of D20 listed as well.

love the list but for me kug is absolutely murphs best character maybe second to theo. his backstory was probably the most interesting in the consequences it had on his rp and made him being a rat incredibly tragic. his journey in chapter 1 was incredible and his conversation with the American dream may be one of my favourite of all dimension 20. super underrated IMO oh an lapin should've been an s. the only time we really saw zac show off an intelligent character until pib and he crushed it so hard probably the biggest tragedy of acoc is his early exit

When you placed Ruby in C tier I made the exact same shocked gasping noise that I once made upon spilling an entire kettle of hot tea all over my thighs. Ruby may not be the flashiest character, but after Lapin died she really stepped up and she made some incredibly clever decisions that carried the game there. Siobhan brought a lot of emotional depth and complexity to the character while still realistically playing a teenager (blaming Caramelinda after Jet died, for example). For most of these characters I understand your reasoning, but for Ruby I literally could not disagree more. Liked and subscribed.

There has never been a character in d20 that has touched a part of my soul and made my nearly choke from laughter as much as Pinocchio managed to do. Lou gave such a layered and hilarious performance that just makes it impossible to stop thinking about. Definitely S tier for me.

Saccharina being S tier is a very good take that not enough people see

poor siobhan. only player without an S. :( i do somewhat agree though, though perhaps i'd say adaine is an S for me and i wish more of her characters felt like their own person like she did

Based on this tier list, here's each cast member's averages on a 5 point scale: Ally: 4.0 Emily: 3.7 Lou: 4.2 Murph: 3.7 Siobhan: 2.7 Zach: 3.7 I love how tight the cluster is. No one is trying to be the star every season.

Rip Ylfa... not even on the list with her awesome orange hat.

My first interaction with Dimension 20 was the first episode of Unsleeping City and I was actually caught off guard with how young Lou seemed the first time I saw him outside of the Kingston character.

I feel like with Dimension 20 characters and putting them on a tier list you have to get over that initial hurdle of "Oh 'Character name' I love them" and then you can start thinking more critically relative to the rest of the D20 characters.

not to mention saccharina is actually powerful like if anything she inherited the rocks power her aunts had she counter-spelled a legendary action ultimately changing the direction of the story i have a feeling they where suppose to lose and go through self journeys post fight. but they ended up going through later in a different way

Nah but how can you put Jet above Ruby tho??? I entirely agree that the twin aspect of their character paired with fairly typical rebellious princesses hindered the quality of these characters as standalone, but Jet is almost empty, barely no character arc (not because the character is bad, but because she never got the chance to close even the tiniest bit of narrative thread she had. Even Lapin had a better wrapping up of his narrative. Jet sadly didn't even make it to the starting line). Meanwhile Ruby goes through Jet's loss, then her conflict with Caramelinda, her conflict with Saccharina, the Sugar Plum Fairy trying to manipulate her. Like objectively Ruby does a lot more than Jet, and fair enough some of it is because Jet died before really having anything interesting to her, but that does not make it less true. Ruby is undeniably a better character than Jet.

My 2 favorite things that happened with Pinocchio: first off when Lou got a nat 20 at the Candy Island and clearly saw that there was a trap with those hot dogs but Pinocchio still went for the trap because that's what his character would have done was just madness and hilarious. Also that whole speech with One of the princesses where he was drinking whiskey and chewing bubble gum and it was coming out of his leg was just madness. He was a good character I really liked him.

I think you're underrating the Neverafter characters personally, I haven't seen every season but I'm like halfway through d20's backlog and Neverafter is my favorite one so far. Gerard, Timothy Goose, and Ylfa are all my favorite characters for their respective players

Gorgug is single-handedly the most endearing character from Dimension 20. That’s what I’ll say about Gorgug.

Night Angel is one of the greatest characters in Dimension 20 because Murph took a character that was one-note and gave him one of the most interesting and transformative arcs of any character in the series. Especially following up Kugrash who is already a top 5 D20 character would have been a difficult act to follow, and he did it so well

The only problem with this tier list… is that it was made before Junior year which definitely adds a lot to the fantasy high characters

Lou's best PC is in Fey of Flowers. Green hunter😂

Hell yeah get that algorithm money! You deserve it. And tier lists are so fun. It was interesting to see what characters you gravitated to

Kingston Brown from Uptown is the Dimension 20 GOAT

Only just started watching but i saw the thumbnail. Liam Wilhelmina is without a single doubt my favourite d20 character so if you actually do put him in B tier I'm going to cry.

Good listing. I agree with a lot of your S's. As a DM do you find it fun to create encounters around a satisfying story arc? A of the S's have really tight story resolutions outside of the main conflict which is cool.

Completely disagree. Liked and subscribed!

Pinocchio has some huge moments with the stepmother, and with the dice of destiny and Alphonse

Really enjoyed this! Would love to see another episode for the side quest characters!

Only thing I disagree with is Ruby's placement. She was a huge part in creating that interesting party dynamic along with Saccharina. How she handles Jets loss and the themes of "empty revenge" are a major emotional core of the 2nd half of the series. If you were rating her just on the first half id definitely agree. But based on how high Saccharina is (which i absolutely agree with) i think Ruby deserves to be higher using that same logic! Still just my two cents!! Great list and video, love your content!

I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the podcast Dungeons and Daddy’s, but if you’re interested in party dynamics with interpersonal conflict, that’s a huge part of their current season.

Very fine to put King Amethar of House Rocks, the Sovereign ruler of Candia and the Sugarlands, duke of cookieshire, Duke of Flanwood, protector of the realm, Bannerman of the Battle of Gumdrop Pass, Hero of Frosting Valley, The UN-fricken-FALLEN, at S-Tier!!!!

Sofia Lee is S tier and SSSSS tier in season 2 I will die on this hill

Loved this.. what else would I love you ask? An NPC ranking🤠 Jawbone.. plug.. cmon

did you make this rating public? would love to do my own version

It’s really interesting to see how people really relate to and interpret characters so differently! Like I mostly agree on D tier (sorry) but then everything else I disagree on so much! Some characters you said didn’t have big character arcs or were flat I felt so differently about 😂😂 But that’s also the beauty of this show, every season we get 6 amazing characters from 6 amazing players and everyone can find a favorite ❤️

Big Barry Syx S tier is GOATED

Would love to hear your commentary on the story and characters of Neverafter :)

Great video, love your voice btw!!

I rly didn’t agree with this tier list but honestly just because most characters would go in S for me. Some others would maybe drop down but generally I just think this is being way too harsh for entertainments sake. Then again it’s ur opinion we all love d20 here have a good one.

Skipped to end after that saccharina placement 😂 controversial indeed

The thumbnail makes you look like Tom Hiddleston 🤣👌🏻👌🏻

saccharina lovers and defenders rise 💪💪

S tier guesses before watching Kingston brown Riz the ball Everyone from starstruck odyssey

Some extra S Tiers from non-Intrepid Heroes seasons: Evan Kelmp Rick Diggins Ostentatia Wallace

This was so much fun to watch (even though it took longer because I kept pausing) because I played along at home 😂 the only ones we REALLY disagreed on were Liam and Fabian… I had Liam higher and Fabian lower. Crown of Candy was SO hard to rank because that’s my favorite season and I just love all of them!

Lapin S tier robbed

Put some respek on Rosamund Du Prix' name

I could be completely wrong but I think they let her shift while wild shaped because they flavored the different animal forms as “stances,” because she was always a wolf.

Great list. Agree on 99% of it, but I think I would have put Cody up in S tier. He had so many great moments, and I think you're underrating his arc a bit. Sidequest character tiers next? XD

this is very difficult and you did a great job all things considered my S tiers are Yga, Skip, Saccharina, Pete, Kugrash, and Kingston my A tiers are Sophia, Ricky, Pib, Misty Rowan, Margaret, Fabian, and Barry my B tiers are Ylfa, Theobald, Riva, Pinocchio, Kristin, Gerard, and Cumulus my C tiers are Sundry Sidney, Sleeping Beauty, Ruby, Riz, Liam, Gunny, Gorgug, and Cody ; i love that Murph snuck Cody out of D tier, i just couldn't leave him there😂 my D tiers are Ruby, Mother Goose, Lapin, Jet, Amethar, and Adaine i think i got them all on there

Going in blind, hoping my boy Liam makes S, just because his whole arc was pretty amazing. He’s probably my favorite in ACOC next to Theobold. I didn’t like Sacchrina at first but she really grew on me and the ending puzzle between her and Ruby had me in tears! If the thumbnail isn’t a fake out, I think Cumulous needs more love. He kind of boiled down to a couple of gimmicks but Zac played him well. For Neverafter, I’m really pulling for Ylfa and Girard.

I love little red I'm so glad you remembered her! For me she is easily Emily's best character and totally S teir. I loved your much range she was able to show and how much depth her character had.

I feel like I’m going crazy cuz I don’t see a single comment about it but fig is so fucking fun to watch I don’t see how you could put her at anything else then S on that alone, everyone is entitled to their opinion but gosh man broke my heart to see her at bottom of A. And I know I said that thing about opinions but Fabian is one of Lou’s best characters and has to be an easy A/S for me so that one’s just straight up wrong.

Was Evan Kelmp on this?

I think you need to make reasonings for your rankings. Like have humor, depth, and what they bring to the story as categories and go from there. This was 30 minutes of “Omg everyone can’t go into A tier” even after you would talk down a pc

Just noticed that 3 of the 4 of your lowest tier characters are Siobhan characters.

before watching i’m just gonna say that if fig isn’t s tier i’m rioting update: i’m rioting, also though my opinion in her and all fantasy high characters is elevated bc of the current season which is emotionally devastating me currently but i love fig so much

Kingston is the best Vox Populi and I love him.

It's crazy how I agreed with the vast majority of your takes except the lone fact that my #1 favorite character from each player is consistently one you thought was one of their worst 😭

I named my black cat Jet, in honor of Princess Jet 🐈‍⬛ I’m very biased

I would ask you to rank the newer d20 campaigns, but I already know that Burrow’s end will be S tier and that is all that matters to me.

Wait where's Red? What you got against werewolves. S tier character

30:01 Fabian????????? Excuse me he is S tier lol

Where is ylfa 😢

so many wrong opinions but I like that you are giving d20 the love they deserve. Pinnochio is S-tier and has lots of great moments, shame your memory failed you, but yeah! we all have our differing opinions, so all good.

funny every cast member 1 s tier cept for lou....lou is double s tier...and so is brennan...also have you guys checked out ibria, erika, brennan, lou's newish podcast? Worlds beyond number...I just found it...and assume anyone watching this 4 month old video...would probably enjoy it.

Okay, I made some statistics by assigning scores to each tier (S-5, A-4, B-3, C-2, D-1). On average you scored intrepid heroes as follows: Lou (4.2); Ally (4); Murph, Emily, Zack (3.67); Siobhan (2.67). But then I thought that maybe Lou and Ally are having better results due to only playing one character per season. If we take only the highest score from each season (like Saccharina for Emily and Misty for Siobhan), then Lou will tie with Zack at 4.2; Ally will stay at 4; Amily and Murph will tie again, but at 3.8; and Siobhan still will be last with 3. What I am saying is that as any person you have your preferences, and Lou is at your top, while Siobhan is your least favorite player. It led me to a conclusion, that maybe our character biases lay in the players' interactions with DM. Brennan Lee Mulligan famously has great chemistry with almost every living breathing person, but usually, he has the best one with Lou, being his best friend and all, and he and Siobhan often has very confrontational character interactions. P.s. Siobhan is a queen, but I totally get why Lou is your favorite.

Skip 5ever

Ok, preface to what I'm going to say, I love Emily and I think she's one of the most humorous cast member of D20. Her work in a Court of Fey and Flowers with Lou truely elevated what I found to be a fun but flawed season. However. I think one of her biggest flaw as a player is how absurdly "self-aware" her characters are, like when she keeps saying stuff like "I see you as an authority figure" in Neverafter when she plays a CHILD. No child would ever talk like that. Same thing with Fig in Fantasy High, her characters jump emotional hoops and hurdles because her the player already jumped them. (not systematic of all of fantasy high, her relationship with Ayda was perfectly handled for example). This approach is excellent in a completely unhinged and parody season like Starstruck Odyssey (especially since she played an Android, and robots are naturally very descriptive and direct), but most of the time it really hurts the character arcs IMO. Where I'm going with this is that to me Saccharina's character does not deserve to be in S tier. Saccharina is so absurdly emotionaly needy with every single other PC and it feels like it's born from Emily again jumping emotional hoops and character arcs with the other PCs. Now the alternative is that this behavior is actually on purpose and part of her character, but paradoxically that creates an even greater problem. There's nothing wrong with writing flawed, damaged or even evil characters, on the contrary. However if Saccharina is truely so emotionaly unstable and selfish to the point of not seeing the problem with demanding instantanuous love and affection from people who don't know her and just suffered a great loss, then she should've never become queen at the end. If Emily hadn't dragged the insufferable oblivious behavior of Saccharina for a good 3-4 episode (especially her relationship with the mourning Ruby), then MAYBE she could've been allowed a character arc to justify her becoming more stable and mature. It's honesty a bit painful watching the second half of the season. You have Lou and Siobhan that want to play mourning and broken characters realistically, but who will OBVIOUSLY grow closer to Saccharina *if given enough time,* and right next to that you have Saccharina being truely aweful, needy and forward with these characters. And again Siobhan and Lou want to play realistically, and realistically if someone were coming on so fckn strong well each time it would delay the time it took you to appreciate them. Saccharina also kept mistaking Amethar and Ruby's grief-caused coldness for animosity for her (Ruby did dislike Saccharina at first but I think Sacch's behavior only aggravated what could've just been a half episode tendency). Seriously it all comes down to : You cannot demand for grieving/depressed people to both follow you AND do it with a smile. They're already giving their all and being on your side, you being pushing only makes everyone hurt. Just wait for them to be ready. It either felt like Emily herself was really wanting to be in the "group" of PC and thus *forced* the insertion of Saccharina to the group (which is obvioudly bad writing). OR Emily was fully aware of how she was sabotaging Saccharina's relationship with Amethar and Ruby, and it was an integral part of Saccharina's character (in which case the character is a really flawed person with a skewed worldview and should not be queen, or at the very least it should be acknowledged or addressed at some point that she has a lot to learn). So yeah to me Saccharina is a fun power trip with her dragon, her titles and her spells, but the character itself is either unnaturally played or badly written. Basically it felt like Emily wasted a lot of time for her character to be better written by wanting to skip important character arcs and interactions that the other players were (rightfully) not willing to skip. I will say though, one redeeming quality of Saccharina, is that even with the victim complex she got going on, she never actually acted upon it or hurt the people she thought hated her. She remained trusting even to the very end, which at least makes her less dangerous than her emotional unstability might make one think. PS : So yeah I'd put her in D or C at best. To me Iga Lizowski the polish mother who breaks family traditions, beats her mistrust towards magic and herself and teaches her children a new way to live is a much better written character for example, and should be above Saccharina.

I will ALWAYS defend Saccharina, because everything about her was great. Also, Pinocchio is S Tier, sorry not sorry

i feel like adaine "dealt with anxiety" like, twice throughout both seasons of fantasy high and was constantly (socially) problematic for the party and brennan made her into a good character by weaving everyone she started beefing with for almost no reason into a deeper villain or less likeable character, even her father, the first thing she ever says to him is basically "i hate when you react to what you're reading at the breakfast table....why don't you buy a separate newspaper for every member of the family so i don't have to ask you what you're reacting to?"

Neverafter was the weakest season in my opinion. I just didn’t enjoy it, because even tho there was a fun narrative story, it felt to me like the characters just didn’t work with it. I wanted to know more about the deep world lore, and it just felt like the characters either got in the way, or were just too jokey. I just am a fan of deep story driven stuff, and this season was just too far leaning into “all joke” territory. My favorite seasons were: Crown of Candy, Unsleeping City, Mice and Murder, and the side quest Misfits and Magic. I liked neverafter’s characters but it was the “eh” of Dimension 20 seasons

sad to admit but i gotta abandon the channel, just can't deal with you continuing to use beardsly's incorrect pronouns

So 4 of the 7 "worst" are played by siobhan Thompson. Yeah, i agree.