Trying to picking the best water based paint to use

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Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator

21 күн бұрын

In this video, we'll be examining five different paints: Johnstone's Aqua Guard, Dulux Heritage, H&G TouchGard, Scuffgard, and, of course, Benjamin Moore ScuffX. Join me as we explore and discuss my thoughts on each of these paints. I'm curious to know what paints you use and what your opinions are on these particular options. Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments!
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@markbusby9709 20 күн бұрын

Thank you Phil ......

@Liverpool1ne 20 күн бұрын

I’ve spent that long watching videos, mostly yours Phil, to find the right paint that I could either have taken on a night school course and started my own business by now, or invested my time in a second job to pay for oak doors and a joiner so I never need to paint a damn door ever again 😅

@sanbucaone 19 күн бұрын

I have tried the heritage and as Phil says it’s nearest to putting an oil base on. That said I found the second coat pulled a little. Maybe a little water to ease would help. my favourite at the moment sprayed is isomat isolac lovely finish With scuff x a close second.

@decker1130 20 күн бұрын

Scuff x for me Phil 👌🏻

@Liverpool1ne 20 күн бұрын

Phil you’ve made my day…. 🥳informative and you included the two paints I’ve been struggling to choose between…. Dulux Heritage eggshell and Aqua Guard 😅👍🏻

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

Glad to help

@eddiecotter7201 19 күн бұрын

Colortrend is the best water based finish for wood,its hard wearing with a good skin and so nice to apply,stays white too,like all water based finishes you must apply two top coats for optimum finish

@robato3991 19 күн бұрын

I really like the Fleetwood water based satinwood. Goes on well and has a great finish.

@colliedogjoy 19 күн бұрын

Little Green Intelligent Gloss, Caparol Haftprimer, Tikurilla Helmi, BIN Aqua - a minefield indeed, but all quality gear - I'm never without a tin of Permawhite. Not tried the Aqua Guard yet.. SO much to choose from. Love the matt finishes on furniture - even F&B Dead Flat is nice gear.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

its a shame PuGloss is only a 65% sheen level :(

@MarkClifford-fh9ip 18 күн бұрын

I use BM Simply White Scuff-X. Really nice.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

Good to know!

@ky5Clash 19 күн бұрын

Found oil based white yellowing way too quick nowadays. Been on water based for a while now.. as you said,, if you can handle a brush properly you can handle Aqua Guard 😉 cheers you’ve been a great help for in figuring out what to try..

@jackwardley3626 19 күн бұрын

Albany oil satin doesn't seem to yellow still white after over 6 years without next to no UV light

@kevinrowlands6753 18 күн бұрын

When all said and done you cant beat traditional undercoat and gloss

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

Yeah.... 16hrs drying times and white going yellow.... Oh the good old days lol

@TheKevinldj 17 күн бұрын

Thank Phil, yet another very informative video. Have you done a video on types of brushes, I find this subject confusing.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 17 күн бұрын

Not yet!

@johngibson540 2 күн бұрын

Phil, going over varnished panel doors. With any of these would you still use the recommended primer/undercoat or use Bin?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 күн бұрын

BIN is a good get you out of jail paint for that. still give a sand for a key. Some brands of paint now days, their primer/Uc is an adhesion paint too, which more than likey would be ok. Remember, if things get banged, they normally chip as well

@MarkClifford-fh9ip 18 күн бұрын

Crown Fastflow? Not bad stuff and one of my favourites. Scuff x is great, heritage eggshell good too.

@SidneySmith-b8i 20 күн бұрын

Hello Sir, I’ve been a Painter and Decorator or brother of the brush as I like to describe myself for 55 years and since they stopped making oil based undercoat and gloss to the old specification you can’t get the same quality finish ie: if you used a good quality oil based paint you could rub it down with silicone carbide paper or wet or dry sandpaper then use a quality pure bristle and get a finish you simply can’t get with a water based paint on a smooth surface and how can they justify the huge jump in the cost of this water based paint.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

It's moving with the times I'm afraid . Have a watch of this, see what you think... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5OclK2ouJ2xgps.htmlsi=1VA8qLCx7E3dvXFn

@robertbrown3660 20 күн бұрын

I've been a decorator for 15 years and have not come across a better water based satin than BM scuff x. Once it is fully cured it is so smooth! As with all water based systems the opacity is weaker than oil based. It's a trade off with that and the yellowing you get with oil based.

@johngibson540 19 күн бұрын

What’s your opinion with using these paints via a sprayer? I have 13, 6 panel internal doors that are currently clear coated. I’m not decorator so ,oozing for the method that gives the best, durable finish and is easiest.

@SidneySmith-b8i 19 күн бұрын

I understand that the new regs on voc in paint has driven the paint manufacturers to formulating new paints but I can’t understand professionals putting additives into these paints for whatever reason as in doing this would void any claim if the product fails, I’ve worked with Crown Paints and their Specifiers and Chemists enough to know this.

@SidneySmith-b8i 19 күн бұрын

@@johngibson540 If I were you I would find out what clear coat you have on your doors and after that it depends on what type of finish you are aiming for this will determine the specification you have to follow to get there, I personally would take advice from the paint manufacturers / suppliers depot staff.

@Tycotian 19 күн бұрын

In America we usually put Semi Gloss Enamel on doors and trim and the best paint I have come across is Ben Moore Regal Select

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@mypoint12 19 күн бұрын

Great video, very helpful. But that Dulux paint is 25% more than the rest. Love Stuffx

@doozeruk2000 13 күн бұрын

I know you don't believe in mixing brands but my go to bow is Crown fastflow undercoat as opacity is incredible and bedec aqua advanced over top... Not had a problem in a year now

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 13 күн бұрын

Bedec Aqua Advance UC/primer is very good. Quick drying and solid

@Kunard2112 20 күн бұрын

I have been using Dulux trade diamond satin on my last few jobs, and find it really good, Have to adapt at laying it off, as it will run, 5ltrs less than 80.! I used Scuff X mix to paint my kitchen and found that nice, but thought the Dulux was just as durable once cured.

@djeat757 20 күн бұрын

Was using this on a school contract, not impressed at all with durability, can peel it off with your finger nail on areas done 6mths ago. Really is a poor product & another reason why I'll never use their paints. Originally advised either Scuff X / Zinsser Allcoat which we're now using the Allcoat without any problems.

@Kunard2112 19 күн бұрын

@@djeat757 what base did you use?

@djeat757 19 күн бұрын

@Kunard2112 Zinsser Cover Stain, followed by 2 x Diamond Satin with a key up between. It's still soft to the touch, was apprehensive when I took the job on as previously was used by other contractors elsewhere in the school and peeling / scratch marks everywhere 🙃

@Kunard2112 19 күн бұрын

@@djeat757 That's what I use as well as a base , and ok on scratch test. I would of used a tough oil eggshell if it was out of term time. It is not the kids scrapping it? I have a adhd kid and I know their like 😂

@djeat757 19 күн бұрын

@Kunard2112 100% it's probably the environment with the amount of kids here! Just found the Allcoat really tough so I've stuck with it.. used it on the woodwork & doors at a hotel a year ago & there's not a mark on it, also sprayed the sash windows with it..completely stripped back to bare with a prime of cover stain then 2 x Allcoat. Held up really well only a stones throw from the Sea, well pleased.

@timothyosullivan6079 18 күн бұрын

have to admit Phil, despite having a 'square car' down her in Cornwall......., i am going back towards Spirit base satins and glosses. I find the water based to be pretty good but lacking shine and being delicate. I like the toughness of Spirit Base and how easily you can wipe off Emulsion from a cured finish. I like the brans of WB ones like Zinsser and Dulux ect

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

a square car? Lada?

@timothyosullivan6079 16 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator hahah, no the Kia Soul mate..... did some experimenting yesterday on my contract, used classic gloss and the Zinsser ACE Gloss. Classic gave a smoother glossier finish but takes ages and customers can smell it in next office even with odourless spirit. The Zinsser i like, no smell, dries fast, but not as glossy. i have tried others like Dulux and Bedec .

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 15 күн бұрын

@@timothyosullivan6079 Kia Soul, what ever happened to those, ran for about 3yrs? The smell is an issue with extended drying times with oil. Used Bedec Aqua Advaced Gloss this week, dries in an hour, two coat on in the day. I got the UC on the day before once I'd done the ceilings, then next day did the walls and some of the Uc areas I got a first coat of gloss on (radiators and wind sill), third day.. got the 1st Gloss on the areas needing it, finished the 2nd coat on the stuff i did the day before.. then final coat on the rest. Large room, done for 3oClock...then could get cleaned up,, shook sheets, vac up knowing all the woodwork was dry.

@STUMANFOO99 20 күн бұрын

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Have you done an upload like this for all the water based glosses you've tested?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

No, there are water base gloss testing in the product reviews though.

@STUMANFOO99 20 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Yes mate I think I've watched them all I shall check again. Good work keep it up 👍🏻

@dacelticcross 20 күн бұрын

Colourtrend is easily the best water based paint.

@martinroberts5577 19 күн бұрын

Phil, cheeky question. I have new MDF skirting and architrave ready primed from supplier. What water based undercoat and topcoat paint would you use?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

what finish?

@martinroberts5577 18 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Gloss white . Thank you for responding

@war3405 18 күн бұрын

Hi Phil, Great video. Thanks for that. I have a question. Do you think Dulux oil based Undercoat can cover the wood filler or is better to use primer over the wood filler first to not flash ? Thanks

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

whats going over the Oil Undercoat?

@war3405 18 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Dulux trade High Gloss

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

@@war3405 its not a bad idea to spot prime bare areas first, use some dulux acrylic primer/Uc (or similar in another brand.)

@charlesfalconer6231 19 күн бұрын

Clare should have her own show , she,s great

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

Clare from Steps?

@deanmarkwell5997 20 күн бұрын

Can Scuff X go over old oil WW or need a zinzer?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 15 күн бұрын

sand down and coat up. Unless its a colour change, you can get away with two coats

@peterfriel5129 20 күн бұрын

Isomat for me Phil just saying 😉

@Liverpool1ne 20 күн бұрын

I was surprised he didn’t include it as was a big fan from memory. Have you tried the others? Be interested to know what you think vs Aqua Guard.

@gareththompson5269 19 күн бұрын

I would imagine Phil that Scuffx spread rates are a little higher or better than the rest.

@johngibson540 19 күн бұрын

What’s your opinion re the following. I’m not a painter just diy. I have 13 internal 6 panel doors and I’m wondering which of these would be best and should I spray or brush/roll. For those decorators out there what would you charge per door to complete? Great vids. John

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

To start with. How long to prep the door. UC and two top coats... On just on side.

@johngibson540 19 күн бұрын

Both sides and I imagine will require 3 coats

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

@@johngibson540 allow 30mins a coat, per side?

@johngibson540 19 күн бұрын

So 1 hour per door. What sort of hourly rates are normal?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

@@johngibson540 watch this and give some feed back. kzfaq.info31-ANa3MQzA?feature=share

@mrg2384 20 күн бұрын

just purchased 2.5 litres jonos aqua guard today £38 inc vat.and its not on offer ,ace decor chorley, the aqua guard undercoat brilliant stuff not been out long.both my go to paints.and the undercoat is not a brush wrecker not like the aqua undercoat.

@Liverpool1ne 20 күн бұрын

Good deal 👍🏻 do you thin it? As Phil says I find it can be a bit more difficult to work but it also runs so I’m reluctant to add a drop of water in case it goes full Usain Bolt on me! Finish wise it’s nice when it doesn’t run and I use decent brushes.

@mrg2384 20 күн бұрын

@@Liverpool1ne yes I put about 30mls water in 2.5 litres,but some batches don't require any water,I can tell when I open new tin and stir it,but to be honest I've never had it run on me,i use an arrowworthy classic 2 inch long handle angled sash.and 2 fussy blokes on doors and window ledges.

@Liverpool1ne 20 күн бұрын

@@mrg2384 I’ve had few runs but enough to make me dislike the paint despite the nice finish. Will experiment with a drop or two of water see if it helps. I’m no expert but am fairly competent with woodwork paints. I think the issue is if you put too much on and can’t drag it out quickly enough to avoid the brush marks then it runs. Technique no doubt but so far Dulux Heritage eggshell has been a good alternative, thinner goes on nicer, no runs. Just has a weird smell!

@Lloyd1885 19 күн бұрын

@@Liverpool1netry paint conditioner instead of water

@Liverpool1ne 19 күн бұрын

@@Lloyd1885 thanks I’m going to give it a go 👍🏻

@djeat757 20 күн бұрын

Zinsser Allcoat for me, bullet proof

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

is it? Not on uPVC though ;) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z599rdxi27jNXY0.html

@djeat757 19 күн бұрын

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator agree regarding uPVC Phil, but you can't beat Kolorbond (not really an advocate of painting uPVC anyway). Just personal preference / opinion I feel it's more durable than its competitors, especially with a coverstain primer coat. beforehand.

@peeduwee 19 күн бұрын

Hi Phil, I'm using Tikkuriĺa Otex Akva Primer as the 1st coat on painted wooden doors but in parts it's separating with what looks like oily spots - the cabinets were sanded and cleaned with clean spirit, any ideas what could be causing it?😮

@colliedogjoy 19 күн бұрын

If 'clean spirit' is turpentine substitute, it's oil based and the paint will ciss. In my experience, degreasing with Zinsser Universal degreaser is the only way to prep woodwork that might be contaminated (always around handles) before sanding (or you just rub the grease into the work)

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

You'd be better to wipe over and clean with Meths. It will evaporate and not leave an oily surface.. like White Spirit. You may find that spray cleaner/wax is still on the surface.. the meths would clean that off. Meths and wire wool may be an idea to do it next time.

@leadbetter74 19 күн бұрын

I'm after an oil based finish but water based paint as it's exterior wood and the customer lives in a city, so doesn't want to leave the windows open for 24+ hours. Any advice would be amazing

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

Have a look at Isomat Isolac paint. Or Caparol PU satin/gloss Bedec Aqua Advance also worth looking at Farrow and Ball exterior paint also very good. Always prep well and prime/UC then two top coats.

@leadbetter74 19 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator ohhhhh ace thanks, I've used isomat premium, was excellent. I'll have a look at both. Thanks for the recommendation

@johngibson540 19 күн бұрын

A further question. All of these are clearly great paints that come with a high price. For a low use domestic situation is the price really justified?

@colliedogjoy 19 күн бұрын

Without a doubt - a litre of paint costs around an hour's labour - painting an entire room costs around 0.2% the value of a property - these are vague figures, but the point is, a good paint job MAKES a domestic space that has already had considerable investment. Prepping a space only to use sub standard gear is a wasted opportunity.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

Have a look at the video I did on Fortress satin from Screwfix. Well worth looking at

@johngibson540 18 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecoratorThanks Phil. Watched your video which looked great but somewhat unnerved by the number of very negative reviews on the Screwfix page

@philc5513 12 күн бұрын

"Minefield"

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 11 күн бұрын

it blows your MIND

@alanbuckingham8788 19 күн бұрын

No WRX? Odd

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 19 күн бұрын

I've done vids on WRX though

@MargaretEverson-fg2zj 20 күн бұрын

Is'nt it 'Mine Field'.

@acropolisnow9466 20 күн бұрын

It is.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

I wondered who'd pick up on the play on words lol

@MargaretEverson-fg2zj 20 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator haha! I love your videos ❤❤❤

@Cracklerz 20 күн бұрын

Put aura in the mix that comes in 1l or just under,and a panel on a door really ain’t gona show opacity and application,nice neckerchief btw

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

you need to watch the full door painting videos with each paint... set a side a free weekend to go through the back catalogue ;)

@painterman8863 19 күн бұрын

Surprised Bedec aqua Satin was not on their mate. £22 for 1 litre 👍 Enjoy the video.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 15 күн бұрын

Bedec Aqua Advance Satin, is best used as the three coat system, like Caparol PuSatin/Gloss and the Isomat. One primer/Uc and two top coats. all very good paints.

@painterman8863 15 күн бұрын

Thanks for the reply mate👍 So these paints in the video can go straight over oil mate.?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 15 күн бұрын

@@painterman8863 yes. Make sure you give a sand down for a key, dust off etc.

@painterman8863 15 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Thanks

@2010dgizzle 20 күн бұрын

I’m sure the tag line is mine field not mind field lol 😂

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

but it's clearly a MIND field when we talk paint lol they all do our head in lol

@2010dgizzle 20 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator agree with that… I still need to send you that Lucas brush … I sent candleman one and he wasn’t too impressed lol

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

@@2010dgizzle that £89 1.5"?

@2010dgizzle 20 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I think it’s 3”

@Tycotian 19 күн бұрын

@adriver4471 19 күн бұрын

I’ll stick with oil based gloss None of these modern water based paints shine They are not hard wearing either Happy to be a dinosaur 👍

@carlbridge-wk4ez 20 күн бұрын

Why are you pricing the rest as 1 litre surely that's biased.. Aqua guard works out around £11 per litre if you have a trade account. Scuff guard aint got great opacity imo after testing this and touch gard. They ain't brilliant white either mate.. Think they are a ral white. Pm1 has a greyish tint which aids opacity better than chantilly lace. Give tikkurila intact a go! Its slightly thinner than AQ but doesn't creep on them mouldings. 😮 There is a hack with using aqua guard now.

@Liverpool1ne 20 күн бұрын

@@carlbridge-wk4ez what’s the Aqua Guard hack….? Interested to know as I like it bar the runs

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

mainly, DIYers who are just doinga room out won't be looking to buy 2.5 or 5ltrs of woodwork paint to do a lounge out etc. We know, the more you buy the cheaper it works out, but doing it as a litre can ppl can understand it more.. I hoped.

@KevinCleghorn 13 күн бұрын

Did you ask your dyslexic six year old son to write the title on this video? 😂😂😂

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 13 күн бұрын

It's all spelt perfect

@acropolisnow9466 20 күн бұрын

Aqua Guard runs like fuck.

@Liverpool1ne 20 күн бұрын

Aqua Guard runs like Matt Hancock when his wife found out but it’s a nice finish 😅

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 20 күн бұрын

Hancock's Half Hour?

@Liverpool1ne 20 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator that’s the one 😂

@acropolisnow9466 20 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Definitely still running after half an hour...

@paulobryano 19 күн бұрын

I've heard it runs less if you add some owattrol floetrol and a splash of water to the mix?

@ifindoubtbailout70 18 күн бұрын

I've been a pro Decorator for nearly 40yrs now, just don't use water based trim finish paints indoors, because they are CRAP 🤮just use acrylic primer u/c & finish using oil based paints, trust me it's the only way😉

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

Acrylic primer UC then a coat of gloss? Most have satin/eggshell these days though.

@ifindoubtbailout70 18 күн бұрын

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator or yes, gloss,satin or eggshell, you'll always get a good finish with decent well known trade quality brands😉I personally never use acrylic primer u/c on windows, i stick to oil equivalents around moisture areas.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 18 күн бұрын

And oil Eggshell and satins are self Undercoating anyway, so no need to use acrylic with those. What wb paints have you tried ?